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ghostrider733
ok. i have looked and looked and NOONE can seem to answer this question. I watched an adobe reader download go right to my desktop then disappear. NO it is not in the download folder. YES I did a search on the entire harddrive and it is not there. YES the download did complete. It really does not matter what I download and to what folder I download. IT DISAPPEARS. Does ANYONE know why this happens?

Interesting thing, just for giggles I install FIREFOX and guess what the download is fine. It does not disappear. Now please don't post. "then just use firefox to download" That is a workaround not a solution. So it seems that IE7 may be the issue? Any thoughts or a solution to this problem?
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    ghostrider733

    come on people. anyone anyone

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    OldER Mycroft

    Vista has a strange methodology when it comes to where it puts stuff.

    Add to that fact, the sad under-ability of the M$ search engine which has never returned complete results.

    Firefox, on the other hand, over-rides Vista's predeliction for placing files, saving them in the Firefox Downloads directory. In other words, just where you would expect them to be!

    Read the detail at the following link:

    http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_rc1_worst.asp

    You'll be relieved to find all your downloads are still intact, you just couldn't find them. - They will be sitting inside the folder that bears the name of your USER ID.

    Let me know when you've found them.

    Good luck!

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    ghostrider733

    I looked under my USER ID folder and they are not there. I am downloading the adobe reader for this little problem. I also, just for fun, searched every folder and still cannot find it. So either it is being deleted or redirected to a hidden folder. Oh I did unhide all folders to. Is there a setting to undo this really dumb Microsoft idea. I am thinking this is something SP1 will need to address lol.

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    OldER Mycroft

    From what I've seen on Vista when I get my hands on a friend's machine, The M$ search routine assumes that if you're looking for something you have already looked in the hidden place, so doesn't include that location in its own search routine.

    I did manage to track stuff down for my mate when he thought it had been deleted.

    Did you check ALL the sub-directories too?

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    ghostrider733

    I am just using M$ search. I am going to try a 354mb download and see if the harddrive space changes. If it does I know the file is somewhere. If it does not change then something is really fishy. thank you for your help with this I am sure it will be figured out soon. lol. Yes I checked all the sub-directories too.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Go to www.netez.com and download "2xExplorer" - it uses its own internal search engine to find file images on disk. It definitely works on Vista because I've already tried it.

    NOTE: On the site your are offered a NEW BUILD of this program called "Explorer2" - for your requirements DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS INSTALLER as it now uses the M$ search engine!

    Download the older build and you'll surely find your missing files.

    Good luck!

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    OldER Mycroft

    You're probably sick of looking for things by now so, instead of wading through the info at the site, here's the relevant stuff:

    "Why does Internet Explorer want to download stuff to a Downloads folder? What is Downloads? Where is it? How do find it? (Yes, I know it's in the home folder, but the average user won't know that.) When I download something, how come it disappears? Why doesn't the Downloads window open when the download is complete? Why isn't Downloads on the Start Menu if it's the default in IE? Was the desktop too logical and commonly-used a destination?

    How come Windows Vista has this great search feature but most of the bundled applications still use an old fashioned Find dialog that often gets in the way of what you're trying to find? Open up Notepad or Wordpad and try to find some text. Why isn't there a Search box right up there in the top right corner of the window? Duh."

    - 'Nuff Said!

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    NOW LEFT TR

    The Automatic prompt for Downloads in IE7 has been set to disabled??

    But I think...

    This is a business PC and IE is controlled by a Group Policy that will not let the download stay after finishing!!!!

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    OldER Mycroft

    And the point of this "facility" would be what?

    (Genuine query TechMail, not another shot across any bow.)

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    NOW LEFT TR

    It could be used to stop people downloading to location X - X being the default save location on the local PC.

    Not 100% on the new Vista GP objects but I know there are more than was available on XP.

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    ghostrider733

    ok. I normaly don't do this but I figured what the heck. I install XP PRO SP2 fresh and then installed all my apps and made sure everything was updated. I then proceded to install the VISTA update from one of our disks. GUESS WHAT?!? all my isseu that I had were gone. I can now download to the desktop and anywhere with out it disappearing and certain apps I could not install were working. Here is the run down.

    1. Fresh XP pro install (NO preloaded VISTA image from the vendor- load all apps
    2. Update to VISTA with the Upgrade CD.

    I think it was the lousy vendor preloaded VISTA with all their crap. I know it still does not resolve the original issue but my guess it was a jacked up image. I think it still may be certain settings but I could not find them at all.

    In one of my posts I did say Fresgh install but that was the recovery cd with the lame vendor image.

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    ghostrider733

    nope. There is not group policy setup to not let the download stay. Just for giggles I install VISTA BUSINESS on another one of my laptops, did not add it to a domain and tried to download something and guess what????????? it disappeared. I would say no on the group policy theory but it was a good guess. It made me do a fresh install and not add it to a domain. So back to the drawing board.

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    NOW LEFT TR

    that is strange - you were logged on as Admin?

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    come_spirit

    I have exactly the same problem after removing a virus. I have restored the values of IE without success. Pls. Does anyone solved this?? A workaround is of course FireFox

    Javier
    Spain

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    malakaii.tybe

    Hi there I was wondering if you've figure out the problem, I'd like to know the answer I am having the same exact problem please let me know the solution...

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    the_resonant_flux

    First do you use any active antivirus software?
    Next, does it monitor your internet activities?
    There is apparently a problem with AVG, going around. Preventing all the downloads.

    I gave up completely with it and just un-installed AVG. (switched to Avira)

    Low and behold. Problem solved.

    There is apparently another possible problem and solution involving system files!

    you might try running sfc.exe

    you will need to run the command prompt(as an administrator) type "sfc /scannow"

    this might take care of it too.

    Hope this helps!
    (and don't get vista 64 if you not a little tech savvy) it's a great operating system but it's got a steep learning curve!!!

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    jennifer_197976

    Just today my computer started playing the disappearing download deal. Here's how it goes: I "save as" for example 1234.exe to the desktop. There will be icons for 1234.exe and also 1234.exe.part. As soon as the download "completes" the 1234.exe icon disappears like Houdini, but the 1234.exe.part remains. The file is nowhere to be found. When I select and try to delete the 1234.exe.part, a prompt says it can't be found, but refreshing the desktop makes it disappear. I could care less about the .part portion, I need the real thing! Doesn't matter if it's .exe, .pdf, .zip, Firefox or IE. I ran sfc /scannow but that did not help, although it did tell me some of my files are corrupt and couldn't be fixed (Vista home premium) although I have no clue why that happened. I've working on this half the day because I need to download files for grad school projects, finals next week, fun fun. Anyone know what the L is going on here? Should I just grab my Windows CD and reinstall and hope that works?

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    BOOSHAKA_16COWS

    i talked to microsoft bout it.....first they wanna charge me cash for solvein a problem that im pretty sure they caused, and two........does anyone have a fix?????

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    kh_sensei

    I dont think it has anything to do with AVG or any antivirus, i think its just a crappy Microsoft error.

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    glasswalker

    Okay, I'm using Vista Home Premium. Having the same issue described where I can see the file on the desktop as it's downloading, but once it completes it vanishes. Searching all drives and all files (hidden or not) reveals nothing.

    It happens just the same in IE and in Firefox. At one point I had Google Chrome installed, and that was the only one that would let me download items. After uninstalling it to see if that was causing the problem, I still couldn't download anything.

    My current workaround is to make use of a download manager (ReGet in this case). 95% of the time I can simply drag the link to it and download it like that. However, in the case of having to press an actual <input> button, ReGet doesn't see it and won't intercept it.

    This happened only after having to reload Vista onto a new HDD as the previous one died. I had to request/pay Gateway for the proper disc and not just the restore disc.

    Firefox has been updated like five minutes before posting this, and that didn't change anything. I've not installed IE 8 yet.

    I do have AVG, but if that were what's causing the problem, shouldn't it also do the same thing on another machine we have with AVG on it? Not the case.

    Any help with this would be great!
    Thanks

    Oh yeah, forgot to mention that on this load of Vista I disabled the User Account Control. Don't know if anyone else experiencing the same problem has done the same or not.

    Also, on the 'tricky' downloads (ones that ReGet won't intercept, or allow the link to be dragged to) I've tried Run with (Default Program). It will open the file (in this case an MP4 from ColorCode3D.com) in WMP but when you try to save it, it will pop up saying that either the file no longer exists, or that I need rights to do this, ending in a repetitive loop of 'Try Again'.

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    glasswalker

    I just turned my UAC back on, and then rebooted the machine. Went back to the MP4 I had tried to download four times before, and lo and behold it worked.

    If anyone else is having this problem, try turning your UAC back on. Sucks that that's the way it has to be.

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    pinbound

    Yes I have the same problem and my reply to the jackass that says use firefox. If u cant download anything, how can u download firefox?

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    OldER Mycroft

    But even a Billy No-Mates with a half-decent brain, must have access to a Public Library or an Internet Cafe surely?

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    Go to Microsoft's website and download the IE8 browser. Or go here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx

    Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.
    If this information is useful, please mark as helpful. Thanks.

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    www.eagle-it.be

    I had this problem on a vista ultimate sp1 x32 pc. In IE7 AND Firefox i tried to download stuff, saw the progress bar until finished, but when i looked in the map where i chose to save the download: nothing... However, when downloading was still unfinished, i saw a temp file of the download in progress. So when the download finished, the file magically disappeared. The victim seemed to be a corrupt avg free 8.5. I ran ccleaner portable + avg removal tool from a usb stick, reboot: problem solved. Reinstalled avg free 8.5 + last updates: still solved.
    More info here: http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/707618-downloads-disappear.html

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    ghostrider733

    come on people. anyone anyone

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    OldER Mycroft

    Vista has a strange methodology when it comes to where it puts stuff.

    Add to that fact, the sad under-ability of the M$ search engine which has never returned complete results.

    Firefox, on the other hand, over-rides Vista's predeliction for placing files, saving them in the Firefox Downloads directory. In other words, just where you would expect them to be!

    Read the detail at the following link:

    http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_rc1_worst.asp

    You'll be relieved to find all your downloads are still intact, you just couldn't find them. - They will be sitting inside the folder that bears the name of your USER ID.

    Let me know when you've found them.

    Good luck!

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    ghostrider733

    I looked under my USER ID folder and they are not there. I am downloading the adobe reader for this little problem. I also, just for fun, searched every folder and still cannot find it. So either it is being deleted or redirected to a hidden folder. Oh I did unhide all folders to. Is there a setting to undo this really dumb Microsoft idea. I am thinking this is something SP1 will need to address lol.

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    OldER Mycroft

    From what I've seen on Vista when I get my hands on a friend's machine, The M$ search routine assumes that if you're looking for something you have already looked in the hidden place, so doesn't include that location in its own search routine.

    I did manage to track stuff down for my mate when he thought it had been deleted.

    Did you check ALL the sub-directories too?

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    ghostrider733

    I am just using M$ search. I am going to try a 354mb download and see if the harddrive space changes. If it does I know the file is somewhere. If it does not change then something is really fishy. thank you for your help with this I am sure it will be figured out soon. lol. Yes I checked all the sub-directories too.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Go to www.netez.com and download "2xExplorer" - it uses its own internal search engine to find file images on disk. It definitely works on Vista because I've already tried it.

    NOTE: On the site your are offered a NEW BUILD of this program called "Explorer2" - for your requirements DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS INSTALLER as it now uses the M$ search engine!

    Download the older build and you'll surely find your missing files.

    Good luck!

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    OldER Mycroft

    You're probably sick of looking for things by now so, instead of wading through the info at the site, here's the relevant stuff:

    "Why does Internet Explorer want to download stuff to a Downloads folder? What is Downloads? Where is it? How do find it? (Yes, I know it's in the home folder, but the average user won't know that.) When I download something, how come it disappears? Why doesn't the Downloads window open when the download is complete? Why isn't Downloads on the Start Menu if it's the default in IE? Was the desktop too logical and commonly-used a destination?

    How come Windows Vista has this great search feature but most of the bundled applications still use an old fashioned Find dialog that often gets in the way of what you're trying to find? Open up Notepad or Wordpad and try to find some text. Why isn't there a Search box right up there in the top right corner of the window? Duh."

    - 'Nuff Said!

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    NOW LEFT TR

    The Automatic prompt for Downloads in IE7 has been set to disabled??

    But I think...

    This is a business PC and IE is controlled by a Group Policy that will not let the download stay after finishing!!!!

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    OldER Mycroft

    And the point of this "facility" would be what?

    (Genuine query TechMail, not another shot across any bow.)

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    NOW LEFT TR

    It could be used to stop people downloading to location X - X being the default save location on the local PC.

    Not 100% on the new Vista GP objects but I know there are more than was available on XP.

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    ghostrider733

    ok. I normaly don't do this but I figured what the heck. I install XP PRO SP2 fresh and then installed all my apps and made sure everything was updated. I then proceded to install the VISTA update from one of our disks. GUESS WHAT?!? all my isseu that I had were gone. I can now download to the desktop and anywhere with out it disappearing and certain apps I could not install were working. Here is the run down.

    1. Fresh XP pro install (NO preloaded VISTA image from the vendor- load all apps
    2. Update to VISTA with the Upgrade CD.

    I think it was the lousy vendor preloaded VISTA with all their crap. I know it still does not resolve the original issue but my guess it was a jacked up image. I think it still may be certain settings but I could not find them at all.

    In one of my posts I did say Fresgh install but that was the recovery cd with the lame vendor image.

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    ghostrider733

    nope. There is not group policy setup to not let the download stay. Just for giggles I install VISTA BUSINESS on another one of my laptops, did not add it to a domain and tried to download something and guess what????????? it disappeared. I would say no on the group policy theory but it was a good guess. It made me do a fresh install and not add it to a domain. So back to the drawing board.

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    NOW LEFT TR

    that is strange - you were logged on as Admin?

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    come_spirit

    I have exactly the same problem after removing a virus. I have restored the values of IE without success. Pls. Does anyone solved this?? A workaround is of course FireFox

    Javier
    Spain

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    malakaii.tybe

    Hi there I was wondering if you've figure out the problem, I'd like to know the answer I am having the same exact problem please let me know the solution...

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    the_resonant_flux

    First do you use any active antivirus software?
    Next, does it monitor your internet activities?
    There is apparently a problem with AVG, going around. Preventing all the downloads.

    I gave up completely with it and just un-installed AVG. (switched to Avira)

    Low and behold. Problem solved.

    There is apparently another possible problem and solution involving system files!

    you might try running sfc.exe

    you will need to run the command prompt(as an administrator) type "sfc /scannow"

    this might take care of it too.

    Hope this helps!
    (and don't get vista 64 if you not a little tech savvy) it's a great operating system but it's got a steep learning curve!!!

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    jennifer_197976

    Just today my computer started playing the disappearing download deal. Here's how it goes: I "save as" for example 1234.exe to the desktop. There will be icons for 1234.exe and also 1234.exe.part. As soon as the download "completes" the 1234.exe icon disappears like Houdini, but the 1234.exe.part remains. The file is nowhere to be found. When I select and try to delete the 1234.exe.part, a prompt says it can't be found, but refreshing the desktop makes it disappear. I could care less about the .part portion, I need the real thing! Doesn't matter if it's .exe, .pdf, .zip, Firefox or IE. I ran sfc /scannow but that did not help, although it did tell me some of my files are corrupt and couldn't be fixed (Vista home premium) although I have no clue why that happened. I've working on this half the day because I need to download files for grad school projects, finals next week, fun fun. Anyone know what the L is going on here? Should I just grab my Windows CD and reinstall and hope that works?

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    BOOSHAKA_16COWS

    i talked to microsoft bout it.....first they wanna charge me cash for solvein a problem that im pretty sure they caused, and two........does anyone have a fix?????

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    kh_sensei

    I dont think it has anything to do with AVG or any antivirus, i think its just a crappy Microsoft error.

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    glasswalker

    Okay, I'm using Vista Home Premium. Having the same issue described where I can see the file on the desktop as it's downloading, but once it completes it vanishes. Searching all drives and all files (hidden or not) reveals nothing.

    It happens just the same in IE and in Firefox. At one point I had Google Chrome installed, and that was the only one that would let me download items. After uninstalling it to see if that was causing the problem, I still couldn't download anything.

    My current workaround is to make use of a download manager (ReGet in this case). 95% of the time I can simply drag the link to it and download it like that. However, in the case of having to press an actual <input> button, ReGet doesn't see it and won't intercept it.

    This happened only after having to reload Vista onto a new HDD as the previous one died. I had to request/pay Gateway for the proper disc and not just the restore disc.

    Firefox has been updated like five minutes before posting this, and that didn't change anything. I've not installed IE 8 yet.

    I do have AVG, but if that were what's causing the problem, shouldn't it also do the same thing on another machine we have with AVG on it? Not the case.

    Any help with this would be great!
    Thanks

    Oh yeah, forgot to mention that on this load of Vista I disabled the User Account Control. Don't know if anyone else experiencing the same problem has done the same or not.

    Also, on the 'tricky' downloads (ones that ReGet won't intercept, or allow the link to be dragged to) I've tried Run with (Default Program). It will open the file (in this case an MP4 from ColorCode3D.com) in WMP but when you try to save it, it will pop up saying that either the file no longer exists, or that I need rights to do this, ending in a repetitive loop of 'Try Again'.

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    glasswalker

    I just turned my UAC back on, and then rebooted the machine. Went back to the MP4 I had tried to download four times before, and lo and behold it worked.

    If anyone else is having this problem, try turning your UAC back on. Sucks that that's the way it has to be.

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    pinbound

    Yes I have the same problem and my reply to the jackass that says use firefox. If u cant download anything, how can u download firefox?

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    OldER Mycroft

    But even a Billy No-Mates with a half-decent brain, must have access to a Public Library or an Internet Cafe surely?

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    Go to Microsoft's website and download the IE8 browser. Or go here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx

    Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.
    If this information is useful, please mark as helpful. Thanks.

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    www.eagle-it.be

    I had this problem on a vista ultimate sp1 x32 pc. In IE7 AND Firefox i tried to download stuff, saw the progress bar until finished, but when i looked in the map where i chose to save the download: nothing... However, when downloading was still unfinished, i saw a temp file of the download in progress. So when the download finished, the file magically disappeared. The victim seemed to be a corrupt avg free 8.5. I ran ccleaner portable + avg removal tool from a usb stick, reboot: problem solved. Reinstalled avg free 8.5 + last updates: still solved.
    More info here: http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/707618-downloads-disappear.html