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jbaker1971
I always point my Shortcuts to their Icons which I keep in a different folder because Temporary Internet Files gets emptied.
I want to put all my Shortcuts on my USB Drive and also my Icons folder too so that my shortcuts always show up as their Individual Icon instead of that annoying blue IE logo.
The problem is, if I point a Shortcut to an Icon on a removable drive, the path might be wrong when I plug it into a different PC.
How can I point my shortcuts to the Icon folder on the same drive and get it to work even if the Drive letter changes.
I have 2 Folders on the USB Drive; "SHORTCUTS"
"ICONS"
I tried pointing the shortcut to:

%SystemRoot%\ICONS\Favicon25.ico

But It Wont let me do it and says:
"Cannot find %SystemRoot%\ICONS\Favicon25.ico

and if I point a shortcut to the current USB drive letter:

G:\Icons\Favicon25.ico

The next PC I plug it into might assign my USB key with a different letter like E: or H:

Does anyone know how to get around this preferably without embedding the shortcut and Icon into an "EXE". Any help would be appreciated........a lot
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    OldER Mycroft

    Your entire digital empire grinds to a halt.

    You may well also plug your USB drive into a machine that is infected with a virus, then transfer the virus back to your PC which can't operate without that USB drive.

    You appear to have a misunderstanding of what an ICON is - it is only a graphical link to an executable file. In effect it is the first Shortcut - your 'Shortcut' is the second shortcut, pointing at the first one.

    Where you got the idea from for storing them on a USB drive is beyond me - but eventually a USB drive WILL stop working and it'll take all your operating system with it.

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    jbaker1971

    Favicons are used in the Favourites list in IE. They are the individual icons for the actual URL's. You know , so you can easily distinguish them instead of them being blue IE logo's like in IE5.
    I store my Favicons in a different folder to Temp Internet Files, 'cos it gets emptied and the Favicons get deleted too.
    I just want to do this on my USB stick. Its not that its not possible, its the drive letters getting changed that messes with the paths to the Favicon.ico files. I think there is a way round it. As for my security, I've got it covered but thanks for your concern.

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    OH Smeg

    Is to go to Drive Management on every system that you plan to use this USB Thumb Drive on and set the Drive Letter of the USB Device to the same letter.

    Even then I wouldn't expect this to be a reliable method of working and you will need to frequently copy the contents of the USB Drive to prevent Data Loss and Hardware Crashes when the Device Fails.

    All USB Devices are expected to last a set number of hours depending on how well they where made originally so a $20.00 Device shouldn't last as well/long/whatever as a $300.00 device of the same capacity from a different maker. You will need at least 2 USB Thumb Drives per USB Device that you use and ideally more as 1 spare doesn't give you much room to move when things go wrong. Ideally you should always have 1 Unused Device Available no matter what happens though as you copy the Data to the Reserves you could also inadvertently be transferring Infections as well.

    There are some programs designed to run from USB Devices which incorporate their Own Software and this gets installed each time they get connected to a new computer or at least one that doesn't have that Application and Version Number already installed on it. These are used as Password Managers or at least the only ones I have seen that work this way are Password Managers.

    Col

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    Glenn from Iowa

    Wow, I never knew USB drives were so diabolical! Obviously a USB drive has a much smaller MTBF than a hard drive, but, like USB drives, all hard drives are expected to last a set number of hours. My point: everything fails, which is why everything (critical, at least) needs to be backed up.

    It makes sense to synchronize it to a hard drive, and/or possibly a 2nd USB drive, which can easily be done with tools such as Robocopy or SyncToy. I frequently use a USB drive for remote access to files, and if I make any changes to files remotely, I synchronize it with my hard drive at the earliest opportunity. Don't you?

    Hardware Crashes? I can only see that if you were running the OS from the USB drive, and I'm not sure he is doing that. I suppose there is some risk, but I disagree with your forecast of Impending Doom. Like any technology, you have to Know Your Risk and how to mitigate it. If you feel that using a USB Device is Too Risky, then it's your choice to not use that technology.

    As far as prices, I'd like to know where you get $300 USB sticks ("of the same capacity"), and why you don't just buy 15 of the $20 ones and synchronize them? :-)

    Perhaps you meant $30 instead of $300, but one well-known (U.S.) online retailer has a sale on a SanDisk - Cruzer Micro 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive (which I consider to be a reputable brand) for USD$19.99. Prices are quickly dropping to dirt cheap for these devices.

    Infections? Every removable media, from floppies to zip drives to USB drives to external hard drives have had this risk. It seems a little extreme to decry USB Drives because of this. Security experts advise that you should run a virus scan every time you attach removable media. Of course it's not foolproof, but nothing is. Mitigate risk, but keep a balance between usefulness and security.

    I forget who said it, but this sage advice from the '90s still applies today: the only way to be 100% sure you won't get a virus is to disconnect the PC from all external connections, set it in a corner, and keep it unplugged.

    Anyway, lighten up on USB drives. They have their place, and he needs to know the risks, but Using a USB Drive, even with their Own Software, will not cause The-End-Of-The-World-As-We-Know-It!

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    OldER Mycroft

    I'll leave it up to OH Smeg to deliver the coup de grace.

    Put the tip of the sword between the shoulders mate, between the shoulders!

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    OH Smeg

    They are welcome to believe what they like. I simply can not be bothered even referring them to the 64 GIG Corsair Prices and compare those to some others around for a similar capacity. I'm sure that this one knows far more than me and is quite happy to run mission critical applications form a Unbacked up USB or any other device for that matter. :^0

    Col

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    Glenn from Iowa

    Old Mycroft and OH Smeg,

    I must apologize; I didn't mean to be a tosser. I obviously am not aware of the rapport between you two, and simply thought the replies were a little harsh for such a post.

    I do not claim to know more than anyone; in fact, I was not aware of the 64GB Corsair device. Nor did I claim to run mission critical apps from a flash drive (I do not and would not), and I thought I clearly advocated making copies of the data on such a drive.

    I still maintain that one could not find two flash drives "with the same capacity" where one price differed by over 10x the other. And I thought bringing up hardware crashes and infections, especially with capital letters, was making a bigger case than was warranted.

    However, I now believe I misunderstood the tone of your posts and humbly ask forgiveness for the tone of my reply.

    -GFI

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    OH Smeg

    Like this from any External Media but because it was only referring to USB Thumb Drives I didn't see any point in saying anything about other forms of External Media.

    Even loosing the Humble USB Boot Drive that was sold a while ago by some makers has caused severe problems as it's not just a matter of coping the data to another one well it is but you don't use the Copy or Cut & Paste options but need to Clone the USB Device.

    Way too many people give Solid State Devices too much credit for reliability and very few ever consider what happens when you loose something like what is asked for here which is a Mission Critical type thing. The entire idea of being able to move something like this between different computers and be usable makes it Mission Critical.

    As fr finding different makers with similar capacities that is more or less correct but as many people just buy the Biggest they consider that a 64 GIG Corsair Thumb Drive is the same as the Biggest from another maker so you can be actually comparing a 8 GIG to a 64 GIG Device and from that Prospective it's well over 10X difference. Other people will just see a Thumb Drive and consider it a Thumb Drive as all thumb Drives are the same.

    I had this with a Customer who tried to lift my 64 GIG Thumb Drive they thought they where saving themselves $20.00 by taking mine when it actually cost me $330.00 + GST wholesale. When I fronted them about it they claimed that I could buy one at the Post Office for under $20.00 so what was I complaining about. You see here it's all in the way different people look at things. Those not involved in the industry do not look at things the same way that we do just the same as I do not look at bits of Surgical Equipment with any interest.

    The only real difference is that the Surgeon isn't anywhere near as likely to loose his equipment as we are.

    You see I constantly say to my customers the computer is worth nothing in comparison to th Data Stored on the HDD. I can replace a computer within a few minutes but I can not replace one Bite of Data from a Stolen or Lost HDD. The bits of Plastic & Silicon have no real value to the customer but their Data is the Important and most time very expensive to replace thing on any Computer System. I once spent $56,000.00 getting a $65.00 HDD recovered in under 24 hours. It saved the company involved several million $ by preventing the Tax Man from Estimating their income & expenses so it was defiantly worth the cost of the recovery but not any Home Users that I know would even contemplate doing something like that. After all spending 56K to get Data off a $65.00 Drive is Insane you could buy 800 new HDD and still have money left over.

    Col

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    OldER Mycroft

    Our Corsair Voyagers have got a 10-year warranty.

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    jbaker1971

    You were right. We're all gettin' far too over vigilant about security. Why can't we just enjoy our technology?

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    OH Smeg

    Please explain.

    I never mentioned anything about security but I did list several things about Program Reliability. Which means does it work reliably for what you want to do.

    No Security issues at all above.

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    jpesadilla

    https://store.ironkey.com/basic

    Here is a company that makes milspec encrypted USB drives.

    an 8GB USB drive costs $299

    And the link below shows a Transend 8GB JetFlash going for $29.99

    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2749424&CatId=2633

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    jbaker1971

    I wasn't even asking for security advice. Talk like that makes me afraid to use removable drives at all. And I thought that was what they were invented for. I mean, you don't buy a Thumb drive just for using on your own PC at home, thats just pointless.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Moaning and pleading for assistance, desperately trying to recover all the critical system files that you've just upped and lost.

    Happy New Year! :)

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    jbaker1971

    Even the DUMBEST of users back-up their removable devices. Is this supposed to be advice?

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    OldER Mycroft

    ..as a short repeated form of hear ye and hear him. It represents a listener's agreement with the point being made by a speaker.

    http://tinyurl.com/36vsgu

    Misunderstanding of proper usage of a thumb drive can end in disaster, just as bad spelling leads to misinterpretations of what you type.

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    jbaker1971

    Pikcing flaut wtih mrembes spilleng is not a kewl thnig to be wistang U'r time wiv. This is a TekkY site. If U aint got nowt constructive to add 2 the discussion, then go clean U'r PC case or dig out ya p0rή mags. U get ∏Ơ R∑5P∑CT 4 that, Not HEAR

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    achieves uselessness at some point.

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    jbaker1971

    The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on. It is never any use to oneself.

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    OldER Mycroft

    If it's never of any use?

    You moron.

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    Jacky Howe

    Open explorer and create a new folder. Something like USB. Insert the Memory stick. Open Computer Management, Disk Management and right click on the removable disk. Select Change Drive Letter and Paths. Here you can select a Drive Letter of choice by clicking Change, Select Add. Navigate to the folder and Select it and press OK. From now on when you insert the Memory stick you will have a copy of the contents in the new folder. You can set the shortcut to the new drive letter without it ever changing.

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    LJM3

    You could use something like Ubuntu Linux, which will allow you to build a complete OS on a USB stick with persistence, so that means, whatever changes you make while using the stick will remain on the stick, which could easily include your favorites and icons. You still have access to the resources of the PC, such as the printers, network cards, and hard drive, but you'd primarily be working from your USB stick, OS and all. That would eliminate the problem you currently have. The only other thing that might work is to write a script that you would execute at login that would force a specific drive letter - say x for example -for a USB stick on that PC, but that might not work very well. If you have control over all PCs in question where you would use this technique, you could probably set either login scripts or gpos for each PC that would force a specific drive letter on a USB stick insert, but it really seems a bit overkill for the purpose you describe.

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    jbaker1971

    Thats the kind of thing I've been looking for. I tried "DriveVar" which is a little App which sets an Environment Variable to %PA_DRV% but I couldn't get it to work when I tried the USB on another machine. I think it has to be called by another application which is already running. I've got a solution now though. From a member on Tech Support Guy. Write a line in notepad:- subst z: %~d0\ save this as subon.cmd Then another one:- subst Z: /d save this as suboff.cmd Then save both of these on the USB drive. When you plug this in a PC, find the USB drive and open the subon.cmd file and it creates another instance of that drive but with the letter Z assigned to it. It basically mounts a copy of itself with a drive letter of your choice. Its brilliant!

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    LJM3

    Redundant and perhaps a security nightmare, but that is really a wonderful little workaround and should prove quite advantageous to others who may have a need to force a specific drive letter for their USB stick. Great little tip...thank you for posting the solution. I hope it works as advertised for you. Good luck!

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    ThumbsUp2

    You say you point shortcuts to icons which are stored in a different folder because temporary internet files gets emptied.

    The only thing in temporary internet files are things downloaded from the internet, such as web pages, pictures, cookies, etc..., including icons downloaded from web pages that you've viewed.

    Are you saying (1) that you're keeping whole web pages, and everything it takes to make those web pages, in a separate folder with shortcuts pointing to them so you don't loose track of what they are and so you don't have to revisit the web pages online? And, you change the icon for the shortcuts because you don't like the big blue E.

    Or, (2) are you keeping what should be Favorites/Bookmarks (links which point to web sites) and their site icon in a separate folder because you think you will loose them when temporary internet files is emptied? And, you change the icon for the shortcuts because you don't like the big blue E.

    Either way, none of this makes any sense.

    Could you please explain further what it is you're trying to actually 'keep'? Forget, for now, where you're trying to keep it. Tell us WHAT you're keeping and maybe we can help you with your end goal (make it portable) through discovery of what you're actually trying to keep.

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    Glenn from Iowa

    Like other respondents, I'm not sure why you want to do what you're doing, but how about using relative paths: point the shortcut to either

    \ICONS\Favicon25.ico

    if you're sure it will be on the root of the drive, or

    ..\ICONS\Favicon25.ico

    where ..\ specifies to look on the parent folder. Then you only have to navigate to the x:\SHORTCUTS\ folder (where x: is the USB stick drive letter) and click from there. The second method is a bit more flexible, since the ICONS folder doesn't need to be on the root of the drive, just in the same parent folder as SHORTCUTS.

    BTW, %SystemRoot% points to the folder containing the OS, usually C:\windows\. Unless somehow you're running Windows from your USB stick, in which case it would be x:\windows\, and you'd want to use %SystemDrive% to return x:

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    jbaker1971

    Glenn, This is exactly what I was asking. So I can use ..\ICONS\etc instead of G:\ICONS\etc Like when your at a command prompt and you want to go back to the last directory, you use cd.. If this works then its all I wanted to know. Thanks. I did find another solution aswell, which mounts a copy of the USB drive and assigns it a letter of your choice. If you read the "Thats Almost It" post, its all explained in that. Thanks again, John

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    jbaker1971

    I tried both of these but it just keeps saying "Cannot find ..\ICONS\Favicon.ico" or "Cannot find \ICONSFavicon.ico" I've moved the folders about even but nothing seems to work. Why did you think that it would work? like that?

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    Slayer_

    The start in path would need the drive for that to work, which puts you back at square one.

    Just carry a batch file with you that can subst w/e drive letter gets assigned to the flash drive, to the drive letter you actually want.

    command:
    subst X: E:\
    Where X is the drive you want and E is the drive the USB got.

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    jbaker1971

    Yeah, thats what I'm doing. Batch file goes on Pen-Drive which, when executed, creates a copy of the pen-drive, except it is assigned V:\ which is the path that all my Bookmarks point to match-up with their Favicons. Now , when I'm out at the cafe or at a friends, I can recognise all my Bookmarks by their instantly recognisable Favicons, just the same as on my own PC.

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    OldER Mycroft

    That way you can carry a full portable version of FF3 with you.

    A portable IDENTICAL version of the PC-mounted FF3, replete with ALL your bookmarks. You just launch FF3 from the thumb drive wherever you go.

    THAT IS - if you find any use whatsoever in getting useful advice yourself, rather than simply passing it on.

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    jbaker1971

    I don't value input from i-tourists who sl8 othr members with irrelevant twaddle rather than follow the topic and make a worthwhile technical contribution. How can U expect to be taken seriously with that kind of behaviour? I request that U do not reply to any more of my posts. I DO NOT WANT ANY ADVICE FROM U. If U have any dignity at all, U would honour this request. Also, this post was solved ages ago. If U'd kept up with the topic instead of wasting time making corny quips, then U would already know this.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Your entire digital empire grinds to a halt.

    You may well also plug your USB drive into a machine that is infected with a virus, then transfer the virus back to your PC which can't operate without that USB drive.

    You appear to have a misunderstanding of what an ICON is - it is only a graphical link to an executable file. In effect it is the first Shortcut - your 'Shortcut' is the second shortcut, pointing at the first one.

    Where you got the idea from for storing them on a USB drive is beyond me - but eventually a USB drive WILL stop working and it'll take all your operating system with it.

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    jbaker1971

    Favicons are used in the Favourites list in IE. They are the individual icons for the actual URL's. You know , so you can easily distinguish them instead of them being blue IE logo's like in IE5.
    I store my Favicons in a different folder to Temp Internet Files, 'cos it gets emptied and the Favicons get deleted too.
    I just want to do this on my USB stick. Its not that its not possible, its the drive letters getting changed that messes with the paths to the Favicon.ico files. I think there is a way round it. As for my security, I've got it covered but thanks for your concern.

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    OH Smeg

    Is to go to Drive Management on every system that you plan to use this USB Thumb Drive on and set the Drive Letter of the USB Device to the same letter.

    Even then I wouldn't expect this to be a reliable method of working and you will need to frequently copy the contents of the USB Drive to prevent Data Loss and Hardware Crashes when the Device Fails.

    All USB Devices are expected to last a set number of hours depending on how well they where made originally so a $20.00 Device shouldn't last as well/long/whatever as a $300.00 device of the same capacity from a different maker. You will need at least 2 USB Thumb Drives per USB Device that you use and ideally more as 1 spare doesn't give you much room to move when things go wrong. Ideally you should always have 1 Unused Device Available no matter what happens though as you copy the Data to the Reserves you could also inadvertently be transferring Infections as well.

    There are some programs designed to run from USB Devices which incorporate their Own Software and this gets installed each time they get connected to a new computer or at least one that doesn't have that Application and Version Number already installed on it. These are used as Password Managers or at least the only ones I have seen that work this way are Password Managers.

    Col

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    Glenn from Iowa

    Wow, I never knew USB drives were so diabolical! Obviously a USB drive has a much smaller MTBF than a hard drive, but, like USB drives, all hard drives are expected to last a set number of hours. My point: everything fails, which is why everything (critical, at least) needs to be backed up.

    It makes sense to synchronize it to a hard drive, and/or possibly a 2nd USB drive, which can easily be done with tools such as Robocopy or SyncToy. I frequently use a USB drive for remote access to files, and if I make any changes to files remotely, I synchronize it with my hard drive at the earliest opportunity. Don't you?

    Hardware Crashes? I can only see that if you were running the OS from the USB drive, and I'm not sure he is doing that. I suppose there is some risk, but I disagree with your forecast of Impending Doom. Like any technology, you have to Know Your Risk and how to mitigate it. If you feel that using a USB Device is Too Risky, then it's your choice to not use that technology.

    As far as prices, I'd like to know where you get $300 USB sticks ("of the same capacity"), and why you don't just buy 15 of the $20 ones and synchronize them? :-)

    Perhaps you meant $30 instead of $300, but one well-known (U.S.) online retailer has a sale on a SanDisk - Cruzer Micro 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive (which I consider to be a reputable brand) for USD$19.99. Prices are quickly dropping to dirt cheap for these devices.

    Infections? Every removable media, from floppies to zip drives to USB drives to external hard drives have had this risk. It seems a little extreme to decry USB Drives because of this. Security experts advise that you should run a virus scan every time you attach removable media. Of course it's not foolproof, but nothing is. Mitigate risk, but keep a balance between usefulness and security.

    I forget who said it, but this sage advice from the '90s still applies today: the only way to be 100% sure you won't get a virus is to disconnect the PC from all external connections, set it in a corner, and keep it unplugged.

    Anyway, lighten up on USB drives. They have their place, and he needs to know the risks, but Using a USB Drive, even with their Own Software, will not cause The-End-Of-The-World-As-We-Know-It!

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    OldER Mycroft

    I'll leave it up to OH Smeg to deliver the coup de grace.

    Put the tip of the sword between the shoulders mate, between the shoulders!

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    OH Smeg

    They are welcome to believe what they like. I simply can not be bothered even referring them to the 64 GIG Corsair Prices and compare those to some others around for a similar capacity. I'm sure that this one knows far more than me and is quite happy to run mission critical applications form a Unbacked up USB or any other device for that matter. :^0

    Col

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    Glenn from Iowa

    Old Mycroft and OH Smeg,

    I must apologize; I didn't mean to be a tosser. I obviously am not aware of the rapport between you two, and simply thought the replies were a little harsh for such a post.

    I do not claim to know more than anyone; in fact, I was not aware of the 64GB Corsair device. Nor did I claim to run mission critical apps from a flash drive (I do not and would not), and I thought I clearly advocated making copies of the data on such a drive.

    I still maintain that one could not find two flash drives "with the same capacity" where one price differed by over 10x the other. And I thought bringing up hardware crashes and infections, especially with capital letters, was making a bigger case than was warranted.

    However, I now believe I misunderstood the tone of your posts and humbly ask forgiveness for the tone of my reply.

    -GFI

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    OH Smeg

    Like this from any External Media but because it was only referring to USB Thumb Drives I didn't see any point in saying anything about other forms of External Media.

    Even loosing the Humble USB Boot Drive that was sold a while ago by some makers has caused severe problems as it's not just a matter of coping the data to another one well it is but you don't use the Copy or Cut & Paste options but need to Clone the USB Device.

    Way too many people give Solid State Devices too much credit for reliability and very few ever consider what happens when you loose something like what is asked for here which is a Mission Critical type thing. The entire idea of being able to move something like this between different computers and be usable makes it Mission Critical.

    As fr finding different makers with similar capacities that is more or less correct but as many people just buy the Biggest they consider that a 64 GIG Corsair Thumb Drive is the same as the Biggest from another maker so you can be actually comparing a 8 GIG to a 64 GIG Device and from that Prospective it's well over 10X difference. Other people will just see a Thumb Drive and consider it a Thumb Drive as all thumb Drives are the same.

    I had this with a Customer who tried to lift my 64 GIG Thumb Drive they thought they where saving themselves $20.00 by taking mine when it actually cost me $330.00 + GST wholesale. When I fronted them about it they claimed that I could buy one at the Post Office for under $20.00 so what was I complaining about. You see here it's all in the way different people look at things. Those not involved in the industry do not look at things the same way that we do just the same as I do not look at bits of Surgical Equipment with any interest.

    The only real difference is that the Surgeon isn't anywhere near as likely to loose his equipment as we are.

    You see I constantly say to my customers the computer is worth nothing in comparison to th Data Stored on the HDD. I can replace a computer within a few minutes but I can not replace one Bite of Data from a Stolen or Lost HDD. The bits of Plastic & Silicon have no real value to the customer but their Data is the Important and most time very expensive to replace thing on any Computer System. I once spent $56,000.00 getting a $65.00 HDD recovered in under 24 hours. It saved the company involved several million $ by preventing the Tax Man from Estimating their income & expenses so it was defiantly worth the cost of the recovery but not any Home Users that I know would even contemplate doing something like that. After all spending 56K to get Data off a $65.00 Drive is Insane you could buy 800 new HDD and still have money left over.

    Col

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    OldER Mycroft

    Our Corsair Voyagers have got a 10-year warranty.

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    jbaker1971

    You were right. We're all gettin' far too over vigilant about security. Why can't we just enjoy our technology?

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    OH Smeg

    Please explain.

    I never mentioned anything about security but I did list several things about Program Reliability. Which means does it work reliably for what you want to do.

    No Security issues at all above.

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    jpesadilla

    https://store.ironkey.com/basic

    Here is a company that makes milspec encrypted USB drives.

    an 8GB USB drive costs $299

    And the link below shows a Transend 8GB JetFlash going for $29.99

    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2749424&CatId=2633

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    jbaker1971

    I wasn't even asking for security advice. Talk like that makes me afraid to use removable drives at all. And I thought that was what they were invented for. I mean, you don't buy a Thumb drive just for using on your own PC at home, thats just pointless.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Moaning and pleading for assistance, desperately trying to recover all the critical system files that you've just upped and lost.

    Happy New Year! :)

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    jbaker1971

    Even the DUMBEST of users back-up their removable devices. Is this supposed to be advice?

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    OldER Mycroft

    ..as a short repeated form of hear ye and hear him. It represents a listener's agreement with the point being made by a speaker.

    http://tinyurl.com/36vsgu

    Misunderstanding of proper usage of a thumb drive can end in disaster, just as bad spelling leads to misinterpretations of what you type.

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    jbaker1971

    Pikcing flaut wtih mrembes spilleng is not a kewl thnig to be wistang U'r time wiv. This is a TekkY site. If U aint got nowt constructive to add 2 the discussion, then go clean U'r PC case or dig out ya p0rή mags. U get ∏Ơ R∑5P∑CT 4 that, Not HEAR

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    achieves uselessness at some point.

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    jbaker1971

    The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on. It is never any use to oneself.

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    OldER Mycroft

    If it's never of any use?

    You moron.

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    Jacky Howe

    Open explorer and create a new folder. Something like USB. Insert the Memory stick. Open Computer Management, Disk Management and right click on the removable disk. Select Change Drive Letter and Paths. Here you can select a Drive Letter of choice by clicking Change, Select Add. Navigate to the folder and Select it and press OK. From now on when you insert the Memory stick you will have a copy of the contents in the new folder. You can set the shortcut to the new drive letter without it ever changing.

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    LJM3

    You could use something like Ubuntu Linux, which will allow you to build a complete OS on a USB stick with persistence, so that means, whatever changes you make while using the stick will remain on the stick, which could easily include your favorites and icons. You still have access to the resources of the PC, such as the printers, network cards, and hard drive, but you'd primarily be working from your USB stick, OS and all. That would eliminate the problem you currently have. The only other thing that might work is to write a script that you would execute at login that would force a specific drive letter - say x for example -for a USB stick on that PC, but that might not work very well. If you have control over all PCs in question where you would use this technique, you could probably set either login scripts or gpos for each PC that would force a specific drive letter on a USB stick insert, but it really seems a bit overkill for the purpose you describe.

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    jbaker1971

    Thats the kind of thing I've been looking for. I tried "DriveVar" which is a little App which sets an Environment Variable to %PA_DRV% but I couldn't get it to work when I tried the USB on another machine. I think it has to be called by another application which is already running. I've got a solution now though. From a member on Tech Support Guy. Write a line in notepad:- subst z: %~d0\ save this as subon.cmd Then another one:- subst Z: /d save this as suboff.cmd Then save both of these on the USB drive. When you plug this in a PC, find the USB drive and open the subon.cmd file and it creates another instance of that drive but with the letter Z assigned to it. It basically mounts a copy of itself with a drive letter of your choice. Its brilliant!

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    LJM3

    Redundant and perhaps a security nightmare, but that is really a wonderful little workaround and should prove quite advantageous to others who may have a need to force a specific drive letter for their USB stick. Great little tip...thank you for posting the solution. I hope it works as advertised for you. Good luck!

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    ThumbsUp2

    You say you point shortcuts to icons which are stored in a different folder because temporary internet files gets emptied.

    The only thing in temporary internet files are things downloaded from the internet, such as web pages, pictures, cookies, etc..., including icons downloaded from web pages that you've viewed.

    Are you saying (1) that you're keeping whole web pages, and everything it takes to make those web pages, in a separate folder with shortcuts pointing to them so you don't loose track of what they are and so you don't have to revisit the web pages online? And, you change the icon for the shortcuts because you don't like the big blue E.

    Or, (2) are you keeping what should be Favorites/Bookmarks (links which point to web sites) and their site icon in a separate folder because you think you will loose them when temporary internet files is emptied? And, you change the icon for the shortcuts because you don't like the big blue E.

    Either way, none of this makes any sense.

    Could you please explain further what it is you're trying to actually 'keep'? Forget, for now, where you're trying to keep it. Tell us WHAT you're keeping and maybe we can help you with your end goal (make it portable) through discovery of what you're actually trying to keep.

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    Glenn from Iowa

    Like other respondents, I'm not sure why you want to do what you're doing, but how about using relative paths: point the shortcut to either

    \ICONS\Favicon25.ico

    if you're sure it will be on the root of the drive, or

    ..\ICONS\Favicon25.ico

    where ..\ specifies to look on the parent folder. Then you only have to navigate to the x:\SHORTCUTS\ folder (where x: is the USB stick drive letter) and click from there. The second method is a bit more flexible, since the ICONS folder doesn't need to be on the root of the drive, just in the same parent folder as SHORTCUTS.

    BTW, %SystemRoot% points to the folder containing the OS, usually C:\windows\. Unless somehow you're running Windows from your USB stick, in which case it would be x:\windows\, and you'd want to use %SystemDrive% to return x:

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    jbaker1971

    Glenn, This is exactly what I was asking. So I can use ..\ICONS\etc instead of G:\ICONS\etc Like when your at a command prompt and you want to go back to the last directory, you use cd.. If this works then its all I wanted to know. Thanks. I did find another solution aswell, which mounts a copy of the USB drive and assigns it a letter of your choice. If you read the "Thats Almost It" post, its all explained in that. Thanks again, John

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    jbaker1971

    I tried both of these but it just keeps saying "Cannot find ..\ICONS\Favicon.ico" or "Cannot find \ICONSFavicon.ico" I've moved the folders about even but nothing seems to work. Why did you think that it would work? like that?

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    Slayer_

    The start in path would need the drive for that to work, which puts you back at square one.

    Just carry a batch file with you that can subst w/e drive letter gets assigned to the flash drive, to the drive letter you actually want.

    command:
    subst X: E:\
    Where X is the drive you want and E is the drive the USB got.

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    jbaker1971

    Yeah, thats what I'm doing. Batch file goes on Pen-Drive which, when executed, creates a copy of the pen-drive, except it is assigned V:\ which is the path that all my Bookmarks point to match-up with their Favicons. Now , when I'm out at the cafe or at a friends, I can recognise all my Bookmarks by their instantly recognisable Favicons, just the same as on my own PC.

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    OldER Mycroft

    That way you can carry a full portable version of FF3 with you.

    A portable IDENTICAL version of the PC-mounted FF3, replete with ALL your bookmarks. You just launch FF3 from the thumb drive wherever you go.

    THAT IS - if you find any use whatsoever in getting useful advice yourself, rather than simply passing it on.

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    jbaker1971

    I don't value input from i-tourists who sl8 othr members with irrelevant twaddle rather than follow the topic and make a worthwhile technical contribution. How can U expect to be taken seriously with that kind of behaviour? I request that U do not reply to any more of my posts. I DO NOT WANT ANY ADVICE FROM U. If U have any dignity at all, U would honour this request. Also, this post was solved ages ago. If U'd kept up with the topic instead of wasting time making corny quips, then U would already know this.