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adminmichael
Does anyone know of a free server operating system that is visual NOT Command Prompt?

I know of Ubuntu server but that is command prompt and i want to to look like windows server as the visual part please if you know of any please reply thanks!
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    adminmichael

    Really all the time i was playing around with it and never new that how can i set that up? So i can see everything visually?

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    markp24

    at the command prompt i believe you can type startx (check case, it is case sensitive, i forgot what the case should be)

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    seanferd

    BSD, Linux. http://distrowatch.com/
    If you don't like the desktop or window manager, or if the distro doesn't come with one, install one (or more). Best to do it from the package manager, but you can usually install any you want.

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    el.baby

    The server distros are almost the same as the desktop distros. You can either install ubuntu server and add a GUI or install ubuntu desktop and add the server packages and, if that matters to you, you can even install the server-optimized kernel in your desktop distro.

    You can either install ubuntu server and then run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' or install ubuntu desktop and use the software center (or synaptic or whatever you prefer) to add the server packages you want.

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    mjd

    Isn't Fedora-15 out, now? That uses Gnome-3. How's that for GUI (instead of CLI)...

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    adminmichael

    Yes, I have tried Fedora but that just dosnt seem to be a server it just reminds me of the ubunutu desktop so your saying that Fedora has the server ability on that because i like the way fedora is as far as desktop wise.

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    el.baby

    Hi adminmichael,
    If you're used to the windows world, the distinction between workstation and server is big because the 'workstation' is usually 'crippled by design' and it doesn't allow you to tweak the OS for better server performance.

    In the free (as in free speech, not free beer) world, you can tune your OS so it performs better as a server or as an interactive workstation.

    In any case, you're free to install whichever packages you like. One package can be the graphical user interface (and you can even choose quite a few: gnome, kde, xfce, etc), another package is the web server, another the mail server, then the file and printing services for windows, etc.

    This you can do with whichever linux distro you prefer. If you're a fedora fan, go with it... if this will be a somehow critical server, I might recommend that you use CentOS rather than Fedora. CentOS is a free (as in speech AND beer) distribution based on the free (as in speech but not as in beer) RedHat Enterprise and, I think, it is more stable and with faster security patches than Fedora.

    Anyway, go choose the one you prefer.

    Regards.

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    adminmichael

    So what you are saying is its better to use a regular pc os such as windows xp and just install server software on top of it?

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    seanferd

    @ adminmichael: Exactly not. Do not use a <i>Windows</i> workstation edition of an OS as a server. BSD or Linux, it doesn't matter. They are equally capable of being a server or desktop OS. It's just that some builds of some distributions are heavily slanted one way or the other for out-of-box experience. I.e., most desktop users expect a GUI with the kind of pre-installed apps users use; and most server admins don't want Libre Office and Same Gnome installed on a server. But you can add or remove whatever you want.

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    el.baby

    adminmichael, as seanferd says, you can install the workstation version of most any LINUX (or BSD) distribution and then add server packages, NOT WINDOWS.

    Windows non-server versions are usually artificially crippled to act as servers.

    If you're using a LINUX or BSD workstation as a server and notice that performance could be better, you can try several tweaks (including replacing the workstation-oriented kernel for a server-optimized kernel) over that.

    You definitively CAN'T do tha with windows.

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    Pierre M-M

    I've no quarrel with the above advice about adding a desktop to Ubuntu Server but please be careful which desktop you add because as of Ubuntu 11.04 Ubuntu's default desktop is called "Unity" and I most definitely would NOT recommend it.

    If your PC has the CPU and RAM to do it I'd suggest setting up a virtual machine or vm (VMWare now works with Ubuntu btw and I'd recommend it but the others should be ok as well) then download the Server iso and install it as a vm and then play around with various desktops for the vm. That way the worst you'll do is trash a vm and that's very easy to re-install.

    When you're satisfied that your server is as you want it then install that configuration onto your server hdd.

    Another approach is to install server monitoring software on both the server and another admin pc and monitor the server that way without installing a desktop. (I have a vague recollection that one of the reasons that Ubuntu Server is without a desktop is a security issue but Ubuntu forums etc should be able to assist on that)

    And speaking of security I both use and can recommend IPCop.

    All the best of luck and please let us know how you go

    Regards

    Peter

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    Spitfire_Sysop

    Michael, what are you trying to do? There are many ways to serve content like filesystems, e-mail, and web content but a "Server OS" is one that comes with the programs required to do so. Fedora or CentOS are by definition "Server OS" but you said you "tried Fedora but that just dosnt seem to be a server". What the **** are you talking about? The computer can only serve what you tell it to and this is true no matter what OS you run.

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    adminmichael

    Well sorry im just woundering!

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    Spitfire_Sysop

    That doesn't answer the question. What are you doing that you think you need a server for?

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    trygstad

    Turnkey Linux server appliances (http://www.turnkeylinux.org/) are free and are available both as virtual machines and installable ISOs. Their LAMP server is really well configured and includes a full implementation of Webmin. Webmin allows you to run a system without the overhead of X Windows and use a Web browser to provide a surprisingly robust GUI environment to administer your server.

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    xlad

    or install ubuntu server, then at command prompt:
    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (for gnome)
    or
    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (for kde)

    or visit www.virtualmin.com and install them script on an fresh installed OS (centos, ubuntu, etc) and then install the windows manager enviroment

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    adminmichael

    Really all the time i was playing around with it and never new that how can i set that up? So i can see everything visually?

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    markp24

    at the command prompt i believe you can type startx (check case, it is case sensitive, i forgot what the case should be)

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    seanferd

    BSD, Linux. http://distrowatch.com/
    If you don't like the desktop or window manager, or if the distro doesn't come with one, install one (or more). Best to do it from the package manager, but you can usually install any you want.

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    el.baby

    The server distros are almost the same as the desktop distros. You can either install ubuntu server and add a GUI or install ubuntu desktop and add the server packages and, if that matters to you, you can even install the server-optimized kernel in your desktop distro.

    You can either install ubuntu server and then run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' or install ubuntu desktop and use the software center (or synaptic or whatever you prefer) to add the server packages you want.

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    mjd

    Isn't Fedora-15 out, now? That uses Gnome-3. How's that for GUI (instead of CLI)...

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    adminmichael

    Yes, I have tried Fedora but that just dosnt seem to be a server it just reminds me of the ubunutu desktop so your saying that Fedora has the server ability on that because i like the way fedora is as far as desktop wise.

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    el.baby

    Hi adminmichael,
    If you're used to the windows world, the distinction between workstation and server is big because the 'workstation' is usually 'crippled by design' and it doesn't allow you to tweak the OS for better server performance.

    In the free (as in free speech, not free beer) world, you can tune your OS so it performs better as a server or as an interactive workstation.

    In any case, you're free to install whichever packages you like. One package can be the graphical user interface (and you can even choose quite a few: gnome, kde, xfce, etc), another package is the web server, another the mail server, then the file and printing services for windows, etc.

    This you can do with whichever linux distro you prefer. If you're a fedora fan, go with it... if this will be a somehow critical server, I might recommend that you use CentOS rather than Fedora. CentOS is a free (as in speech AND beer) distribution based on the free (as in speech but not as in beer) RedHat Enterprise and, I think, it is more stable and with faster security patches than Fedora.

    Anyway, go choose the one you prefer.

    Regards.

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    adminmichael

    So what you are saying is its better to use a regular pc os such as windows xp and just install server software on top of it?

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    seanferd

    @ adminmichael: Exactly not. Do not use a <i>Windows</i> workstation edition of an OS as a server. BSD or Linux, it doesn't matter. They are equally capable of being a server or desktop OS. It's just that some builds of some distributions are heavily slanted one way or the other for out-of-box experience. I.e., most desktop users expect a GUI with the kind of pre-installed apps users use; and most server admins don't want Libre Office and Same Gnome installed on a server. But you can add or remove whatever you want.

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    el.baby

    adminmichael, as seanferd says, you can install the workstation version of most any LINUX (or BSD) distribution and then add server packages, NOT WINDOWS.

    Windows non-server versions are usually artificially crippled to act as servers.

    If you're using a LINUX or BSD workstation as a server and notice that performance could be better, you can try several tweaks (including replacing the workstation-oriented kernel for a server-optimized kernel) over that.

    You definitively CAN'T do tha with windows.

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    Pierre M-M

    I've no quarrel with the above advice about adding a desktop to Ubuntu Server but please be careful which desktop you add because as of Ubuntu 11.04 Ubuntu's default desktop is called "Unity" and I most definitely would NOT recommend it.

    If your PC has the CPU and RAM to do it I'd suggest setting up a virtual machine or vm (VMWare now works with Ubuntu btw and I'd recommend it but the others should be ok as well) then download the Server iso and install it as a vm and then play around with various desktops for the vm. That way the worst you'll do is trash a vm and that's very easy to re-install.

    When you're satisfied that your server is as you want it then install that configuration onto your server hdd.

    Another approach is to install server monitoring software on both the server and another admin pc and monitor the server that way without installing a desktop. (I have a vague recollection that one of the reasons that Ubuntu Server is without a desktop is a security issue but Ubuntu forums etc should be able to assist on that)

    And speaking of security I both use and can recommend IPCop.

    All the best of luck and please let us know how you go

    Regards

    Peter

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    Spitfire_Sysop

    Michael, what are you trying to do? There are many ways to serve content like filesystems, e-mail, and web content but a "Server OS" is one that comes with the programs required to do so. Fedora or CentOS are by definition "Server OS" but you said you "tried Fedora but that just dosnt seem to be a server". What the **** are you talking about? The computer can only serve what you tell it to and this is true no matter what OS you run.

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    adminmichael

    Well sorry im just woundering!

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    Spitfire_Sysop

    That doesn't answer the question. What are you doing that you think you need a server for?

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    trygstad

    Turnkey Linux server appliances (http://www.turnkeylinux.org/) are free and are available both as virtual machines and installable ISOs. Their LAMP server is really well configured and includes a full implementation of Webmin. Webmin allows you to run a system without the overhead of X Windows and use a Web browser to provide a surprisingly robust GUI environment to administer your server.

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    xlad

    or install ubuntu server, then at command prompt:
    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (for gnome)
    or
    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (for kde)

    or visit www.virtualmin.com and install them script on an fresh installed OS (centos, ubuntu, etc) and then install the windows manager enviroment