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boxfiddler Moderator
Does it matter which slot of two my PCIExpress video card is installed to? It's a 16X card installed to a 16X slot. There are two 16X slots. I've installed to the one furthest from the CPU, if that's relevant.

I'm having some weird display issues.
'Fluid' scrolling. Very disconcerting.
'Blinking' display. Also very disconcerting.

Card is ASUS AX 300SE\T, installed to an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe. OS is WinXP Pro, SP2. Monitor is Samsung 913v.
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    santeewelding

    Pluck it out and put it in the other slot. See what happens.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I'm trying to avoid any more pita with this build. I may not succeed, but I'm trying.

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    jcitron

    which slot you put the card in as long as it's the same kind of slot.

    The problems to me sound like interference of some kind caused by a loose connection or a shielding problem.

    Try tightening up your monitor cable on the back of the monitor and on the PC its self. Also try moving your video signal cable away from any power cables it maybe near. Sometimes the shielding isn't that great on the cable.

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    jeremyrem

    you can also try adjusting the resolution, or refresh rate, what its currently set at may not be supported by your monitor.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I'll double-check cabling. I wonder, as the front of this box is open for the moment, perhaps I'm garnering interference there? Also, there's no panel around the I/O ports in the back. Could that matter?

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    seanferd

    check the refresh rate.

    It does sound a bit like an interference issue, but trying a different valid refresh rate is easy.

    Are the drivers you expect to be in use for the card and the monitor the drivers which are actually in use? (Yeah, sometimes a specific, vendor-provided monitor driver is necessary or better.)

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    And I do have refresh rates this monitor can't handle hidden in that option. It was running at 70, which supposedly this monitor can do. I've changed it to 60, the only other option.

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    seanferd

    I hate low refresh rates.

    Even though this does not have the same sort of meaning as it does for CRTs, a higher refresh rate can really make a difference, particularly when the monitor is not set at the default resolution. Unless the monitor cannot handle it, in which case it looks worse. Default is frequently 60Hz.

    Of course, refresh rate, resolution, and color depth are interrelated, so going for a higher refresh means losing color depth and/or resolution.

    Q: Are you using filtered power? It may help. Anything electrical near the box or the monitor which isn't the box or the monitor?

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    santeewelding

    She needs to whack it with a mallet.

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    seanferd

    I thought you had said, "mullet".

    Capital idea, though.

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    santeewelding

    Hitting it with a dead fish, large or small, just might do it.

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    seanferd

    Have fun with it. Get a friend. Choose your weapon, and <i>go!</i>

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    have the mallet over the mullet any day.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    troubleshooting hardware. I'm not very good at it, and I sometimes just don't 'get it'. Easy enough to match up bus speeds and slots and PSes the way manufacturers make all that pretty clear. But the rest of it? :0

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    seanferd

    I remember needing to reassign IRQs and DMA channels, but not being allowed. Thanks, Windows 95. I could reassign, to my heart's content, everything I could want - excepting the bit I needed to reassign.

    My favorite was the occasion of up my first wireless gateway. (Spoiler alert: They ship the damned things with wireless already on.) I was not planning on making use of the wireless feature at all.

    So, the sucker is hooked up, but Windows would have me believe that A Network Cable Is Unplugged, and I'm not having any of that. I can't reach the router config, so I troubleshoot TCP/IP, check cables, reset router, whatever. When a connection was present, it would become Unplugged before I could reach the router. Mind you, I'm not thinking about Wireless at all... but initial setup technically requires an Ethernet connection, so I'm further inclined to disregard any thoughts of a Wireless nature.

    Eureka! A flash of insight, after disregarding the problem for some time. Move the evil cordless phone.

    The router was, apparently, confused by the phone base. It was latching onto the signal and dropping the Ethernet connection (which still doesn't make sense to me). Once in the router's web interface, I found that Wireless was, in fact, on. Stupid gateway.

    Now, what about all those people who never bother to secure their Wi-Fi because <i>it never crossed their minds as they don't use it</i>?

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    wireless disabled. Except in winter when I use it from the room with the fire. I don't trust wireless... Seems to me it's too easy to get into.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Got rid of the scrolling problem with a couple of settings changes. One to the mouse itself, and the other to the 'smooth scrolling' option in FF. *slaps forehead*

    That leaves the blinking screen issue.

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    seanferd

    See, you were thinking even more better than we on that. Slap us each in the forehead, twice as hard.

    I loathe horrible default settings.

    Blinking: Describe. I'm thinking random or regular blackouts at long intervals or once every few seconds. Tell me I'm thinking the wrong way about this now, too, will you? :^0

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    the screen of the tab I'm on 'blinks'. When I drop a card on another card in Spider Solitaire, the screen 'blinks'. When I move from folder to folder in Outlook, the screen 'blinks'.

    In each case, just once.

    I haven't had 'er up and running very long, so these are the only regular instances of screen blinking I've noticed, and kept an eye on. (haha - more punny points)

    I can't think of a better word than 'blinks', either. It's almost, but not quite, a flash.

    edit
    Default settings. Been so long since I had a 'new' one that I've forgotten about some of those defaults.

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    seanferd

    it is slow. O r that is how I am interpreting this. Try going back to 70 now?

    Also, look at the graphics driver display settings - is hardware acceleration being used or not?

    edit: Just had a look at the manual (fairly nice manual, I might add), just to make sure that it doesn't matter which slot into which you install a single graphics card. Nope. Black or blue, your choice.

    I also noticed that you card comes with a utilities - try running those. Maybe try some other driver settings as there seem to be a lot of features to this card. Try a DirectX diagnostic, even. I know I have seen, used, and probably have, somewhere, a variety of odd video diagnostics. I'll see if I can name any.

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    santeewelding

    To swarm, and to envelope with love, any one of us who is willing to admit, without defense, that she does not have it all under complete tow.

    Not that I have it, either.

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    seanferd

    And being held in high regard doth bring forth the Swarm.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    a manual with the card. Just a quick install flyer. I'll hunt up the manual shortly.

    Thanks on the video diagnostic utilities when you think of them.

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    seanferd

    Just type dxdiag in the run box.

    You may also wish to check if the monitor needs a color profile installed, and whether there is one installed & in use. Mismatch = bad color.

    Card manual - Unfortunately, that section of the Asus site is <i>still</i> undergoing maintenance. http://www.asus.com/999/html/events/vga/eax300se-t/overview.htm

    Interesting, maybe, regarding drivers: http://driver-helper.org/asus/asus-5/asus-extreme-ax300set-driver-download

    Mobo manual, which I found to be slick:
    http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/A8N32-SLI%20Deluxe/E2280_A8N32-SLI_Dlx.pdf

    I cannot seem to locate any of my old monitor/graphics tests (mostly "DOS"-like) - time to search the archives.

    here is one that might suit your needs, 30 day free eval: http://www.passmark.com/products/monitortest.htm

    Visual web test:
    http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
    http://www.colormatters.com/comput_colorblind.html

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    kind sir. :)

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    santeewelding

    From your gastronomical adventure.

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    seanferd

    Nope, Thanksgiving Sunday, easier for the folks. Will report back. I worked, instead, and also played around on teh Intarwebs.

    I have found my stack of CDs and HDDs from other machines. Will have a look for one of the graphics and display tests. They will hurt your eyes, and you may feel the patterns on the inside of the back of your skull.

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    santeewelding

    Then I get to wish you envelopment by all around and important to you. The food, too.

    Pig out on both.

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    seanferd

    Oink oink. Full family complement, much food. Good times.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Love a family get-together!

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    seanferd

    It is sort of nice - much of my family happens to live close, still, and others have moved here, like my 90-odd year old grandmother. (The women in her family do that. I had great grandmother and great grand aunts until I was a teen.)

    It is rather odd how close to me my brothers' families and my grandmother live. If my dad didn't have MS, my folks would still be extremely nearby as well. But they are still not very far at all. Pretty cool, really.

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    santeewelding

    I am glad to hear, too.

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    seanferd

    Good to see you both.

    Did I mention the kids? Oh my, the kids. A riot.

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    santeewelding

    These are all your problems, and not mine. I got me handfuls of my own -- everytime I turn around, it seems, nowadays.

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    santeewelding

    Pluck it out and put it in the other slot. See what happens.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I'm trying to avoid any more pita with this build. I may not succeed, but I'm trying.

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    jcitron

    which slot you put the card in as long as it's the same kind of slot.

    The problems to me sound like interference of some kind caused by a loose connection or a shielding problem.

    Try tightening up your monitor cable on the back of the monitor and on the PC its self. Also try moving your video signal cable away from any power cables it maybe near. Sometimes the shielding isn't that great on the cable.

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    try

    jeremyrem

    you can also try adjusting the resolution, or refresh rate, what its currently set at may not be supported by your monitor.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I'll double-check cabling. I wonder, as the front of this box is open for the moment, perhaps I'm garnering interference there? Also, there's no panel around the I/O ports in the back. Could that matter?

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    seanferd

    check the refresh rate.

    It does sound a bit like an interference issue, but trying a different valid refresh rate is easy.

    Are the drivers you expect to be in use for the card and the monitor the drivers which are actually in use? (Yeah, sometimes a specific, vendor-provided monitor driver is necessary or better.)

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    And I do have refresh rates this monitor can't handle hidden in that option. It was running at 70, which supposedly this monitor can do. I've changed it to 60, the only other option.

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    seanferd

    I hate low refresh rates.

    Even though this does not have the same sort of meaning as it does for CRTs, a higher refresh rate can really make a difference, particularly when the monitor is not set at the default resolution. Unless the monitor cannot handle it, in which case it looks worse. Default is frequently 60Hz.

    Of course, refresh rate, resolution, and color depth are interrelated, so going for a higher refresh means losing color depth and/or resolution.

    Q: Are you using filtered power? It may help. Anything electrical near the box or the monitor which isn't the box or the monitor?

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    santeewelding

    She needs to whack it with a mallet.

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    seanferd

    I thought you had said, "mullet".

    Capital idea, though.

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    santeewelding

    Hitting it with a dead fish, large or small, just might do it.

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    seanferd

    Have fun with it. Get a friend. Choose your weapon, and <i>go!</i>

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    have the mallet over the mullet any day.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    troubleshooting hardware. I'm not very good at it, and I sometimes just don't 'get it'. Easy enough to match up bus speeds and slots and PSes the way manufacturers make all that pretty clear. But the rest of it? :0

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    seanferd

    I remember needing to reassign IRQs and DMA channels, but not being allowed. Thanks, Windows 95. I could reassign, to my heart's content, everything I could want - excepting the bit I needed to reassign.

    My favorite was the occasion of up my first wireless gateway. (Spoiler alert: They ship the damned things with wireless already on.) I was not planning on making use of the wireless feature at all.

    So, the sucker is hooked up, but Windows would have me believe that A Network Cable Is Unplugged, and I'm not having any of that. I can't reach the router config, so I troubleshoot TCP/IP, check cables, reset router, whatever. When a connection was present, it would become Unplugged before I could reach the router. Mind you, I'm not thinking about Wireless at all... but initial setup technically requires an Ethernet connection, so I'm further inclined to disregard any thoughts of a Wireless nature.

    Eureka! A flash of insight, after disregarding the problem for some time. Move the evil cordless phone.

    The router was, apparently, confused by the phone base. It was latching onto the signal and dropping the Ethernet connection (which still doesn't make sense to me). Once in the router's web interface, I found that Wireless was, in fact, on. Stupid gateway.

    Now, what about all those people who never bother to secure their Wi-Fi because <i>it never crossed their minds as they don't use it</i>?

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    wireless disabled. Except in winter when I use it from the room with the fire. I don't trust wireless... Seems to me it's too easy to get into.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Got rid of the scrolling problem with a couple of settings changes. One to the mouse itself, and the other to the 'smooth scrolling' option in FF. *slaps forehead*

    That leaves the blinking screen issue.

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    seanferd

    See, you were thinking even more better than we on that. Slap us each in the forehead, twice as hard.

    I loathe horrible default settings.

    Blinking: Describe. I'm thinking random or regular blackouts at long intervals or once every few seconds. Tell me I'm thinking the wrong way about this now, too, will you? :^0

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    the screen of the tab I'm on 'blinks'. When I drop a card on another card in Spider Solitaire, the screen 'blinks'. When I move from folder to folder in Outlook, the screen 'blinks'.

    In each case, just once.

    I haven't had 'er up and running very long, so these are the only regular instances of screen blinking I've noticed, and kept an eye on. (haha - more punny points)

    I can't think of a better word than 'blinks', either. It's almost, but not quite, a flash.

    edit
    Default settings. Been so long since I had a 'new' one that I've forgotten about some of those defaults.

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    seanferd

    it is slow. O r that is how I am interpreting this. Try going back to 70 now?

    Also, look at the graphics driver display settings - is hardware acceleration being used or not?

    edit: Just had a look at the manual (fairly nice manual, I might add), just to make sure that it doesn't matter which slot into which you install a single graphics card. Nope. Black or blue, your choice.

    I also noticed that you card comes with a utilities - try running those. Maybe try some other driver settings as there seem to be a lot of features to this card. Try a DirectX diagnostic, even. I know I have seen, used, and probably have, somewhere, a variety of odd video diagnostics. I'll see if I can name any.

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    santeewelding

    To swarm, and to envelope with love, any one of us who is willing to admit, without defense, that she does not have it all under complete tow.

    Not that I have it, either.

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    seanferd

    And being held in high regard doth bring forth the Swarm.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    a manual with the card. Just a quick install flyer. I'll hunt up the manual shortly.

    Thanks on the video diagnostic utilities when you think of them.

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    seanferd

    Just type dxdiag in the run box.

    You may also wish to check if the monitor needs a color profile installed, and whether there is one installed & in use. Mismatch = bad color.

    Card manual - Unfortunately, that section of the Asus site is <i>still</i> undergoing maintenance. http://www.asus.com/999/html/events/vga/eax300se-t/overview.htm

    Interesting, maybe, regarding drivers: http://driver-helper.org/asus/asus-5/asus-extreme-ax300set-driver-download

    Mobo manual, which I found to be slick:
    http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/A8N32-SLI%20Deluxe/E2280_A8N32-SLI_Dlx.pdf

    I cannot seem to locate any of my old monitor/graphics tests (mostly "DOS"-like) - time to search the archives.

    here is one that might suit your needs, 30 day free eval: http://www.passmark.com/products/monitortest.htm

    Visual web test:
    http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
    http://www.colormatters.com/comput_colorblind.html

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    kind sir. :)

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    santeewelding

    From your gastronomical adventure.

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    seanferd

    Nope, Thanksgiving Sunday, easier for the folks. Will report back. I worked, instead, and also played around on teh Intarwebs.

    I have found my stack of CDs and HDDs from other machines. Will have a look for one of the graphics and display tests. They will hurt your eyes, and you may feel the patterns on the inside of the back of your skull.

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    santeewelding

    Then I get to wish you envelopment by all around and important to you. The food, too.

    Pig out on both.

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    seanferd

    Oink oink. Full family complement, much food. Good times.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Love a family get-together!

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    seanferd

    It is sort of nice - much of my family happens to live close, still, and others have moved here, like my 90-odd year old grandmother. (The women in her family do that. I had great grandmother and great grand aunts until I was a teen.)

    It is rather odd how close to me my brothers' families and my grandmother live. If my dad didn't have MS, my folks would still be extremely nearby as well. But they are still not very far at all. Pretty cool, really.

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    santeewelding

    I am glad to hear, too.

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    seanferd

    Good to see you both.

    Did I mention the kids? Oh my, the kids. A riot.

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    santeewelding

    These are all your problems, and not mine. I got me handfuls of my own -- everytime I turn around, it seems, nowadays.