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Help with purchasing cheaper notebook/laptop

JDoe3
Hello - and hint: I'm not a technical person, basically a decent user.

Here's the deal:

I need a new laptop, should I go Vista home or pro? Also need Office 2007, either Home/Student or Pro. I had a Dell with XP Pro with Office 2003 until I quit my job. Worked fine at home and with clients.

At home, I have HP Pavilion desktop with XP Home with Office 97 (yes, I know). What will compatibility issues be between Office 97 and Office 2007?

I have a wireless network at home - D-Link - worked fine with my old with my HP XP Home and ex-Dell XP Pro.

I will use the laptop at home and at work. It would be convenient to plug it into clients networks - currently all are currently XP Pro for internet access. Most will be making the change over the next year.

I have MANY work-related files on Office 97 and will need to transfer them to Office 2007.

As a start-up consulting business, what would be the best and cheapest route to achieve my objectives?

Should I also buy a new desktop to match the features I get with the new laptop? I don't think I can run Office 2007 for Home & Students on XP Home. Not sure. Is there a way to piece it together without too many problems? Productivity without hassle is a key concern.

After I decide what to do, where can I get the best deal on the best machines for what I need - at home and with clients.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Jane
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    I don't know what specifically to tell you to expect but you're talking about upgrading through several versions of MS Office in one step. I recommend trying to open your old files on a friends' computer before spending your hard-earned cash on a new computer and the newest, shiniest version of Office. I do hear very good things about the new version, but expect challenges converting your old files. OpenOffice.org may help. Just download the free software at that URL and give it a try.

    There are too many hardware options for me to begin to offer any advice on that. Good luck.

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    JDoe3

    I bought Office 2003, which is very compatible with 97 and should make a smooth transition to 2007 later when I decide to do it.

    I bought a refurb Dell XPS M1210 with XP Pro and enough specs to upgrade to Vista later. I hope it's as good and durable as the reviews I've read.

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    Dell's XPS line is generally pretty powerful. That's the kind of machine I'd like to have.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    I need a new laptop, should I go Vista home or pro? Also need Office 2007, either Home/Student or Pro. I had a Dell with XP Pro with Office 2003 until I quit my job. Worked fine at home and with clients.

    As you are looking at earning money from this forget Vista and go with XP Pro. Vista is still an unknown and there are way to many possible problems related with networking. Incidental there is no Vista Home or Pro there are 7 different versions in both the 32 Bit & 64 Bit platforms so all up that's 14 versions to chose from. Though if you simply must buy Vista buy the Ultimate Version at least you stand a chance of it working on a network where a Domain is present.

    What will compatibility issues be between Office 97 and Office 2007?

    God only knows but I wouldn't expect any Office 97 Documents to maintain their formatting under Office 2007 if it even capable of opening the file.

    As a start-up consulting business, what would be the best and cheapest route to achieve my objectives?

    Don't there are massive overheads that take forever to recover and high insurance that is required if you work on site in case you damage anything. Also if you are constantly moving a NB around you need a much more rugged one than one of the cheap nasty basic ones. It's a tool and as such you need not to skimp on it so that you can continue to work and not suffer any down time. Look at the Legal Requirements in your area and see what costs you are up for initially and how long it will take you to recoup these costs.

    I don't think I can run Office 2007 for Home & Students on XP Home. Not sure. Is there a way to piece it together without too many problems? Productivity without hassle is a key concern.

    Office 2007 actually works better on XP than it does on Vista things like the add on Accounting Program which is based on SQL 2005 work perfectly on XP where it fails to work on Vista.

    After I decide what to do, where can I get the best deal on the best machines for what I need - at home and with clients

    Depends on where you live but cheapest isn't necessarily best as you need reliability and not a cheap price where the unit is constantly being returned to the maker having the HDD wiped and reloaded with a Base Install to see if there is a software problem then charge you for their time if that fixes the problem and then fixing a hardware problem. These companies don't consider your data as important and will **** it away at every opportunity. Most students find this as unacceptable let alone someone using a unit like this as a tool for their work.

    You also run the risk of loosing control of any sensitive Data involved from Business that you consult for if this happens. And you will be legally liable for the loss of income and other damages done.

    Col

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    JDoe3

    Col,

    I think I found a good solution. I bought a Dell refurbished XPS M1210 with the specs to migrate to Vista EVENTUALLY. It has WP Pro so I shouldn't have problems connecting with clients' networks if I need to. It's pretty well-loaded for $1100 with a one-year warranty and 21 days to return. The M1210 is well-rated by most and appears to be well-constructed.

    As far as MS Office goes, I found 2003 Student and Teacher addition new for $60. It is compatible with 97 - I've been working back and forth between the two for years. And should translate well when I eventually update to Office 2007.

    I think it will work. Thanks for your advice.

    Jane

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    CharlieSpencer

    "Should I also buy a new desktop to match the features I get with the new laptop?"

    I'm wondering why you would want to buy two machines. For what the desktop is going to run you can get a better laptop, an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard, and still come out ahead financially. You'll save even more when you don't have to buy two copies of each application.

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    JDoe3

    I bought a refurb from Dell XPS M1210 for $1100 with XP Pro and specs to upgrade to Vista later. Also bought Office 2003 to sub out for Office 97. I'll hold off on the to the desktop until it dies one me. The Office 2003 is good for three licences so that should work for now and make later migration to Office 2007 easier.

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    Absolutely

    I don't know what specifically to tell you to expect but you're talking about upgrading through several versions of MS Office in one step. I recommend trying to open your old files on a friends' computer before spending your hard-earned cash on a new computer and the newest, shiniest version of Office. I do hear very good things about the new version, but expect challenges converting your old files. OpenOffice.org may help. Just download the free software at that URL and give it a try.

    There are too many hardware options for me to begin to offer any advice on that. Good luck.

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    JDoe3

    I bought Office 2003, which is very compatible with 97 and should make a smooth transition to 2007 later when I decide to do it.

    I bought a refurb Dell XPS M1210 with XP Pro and enough specs to upgrade to Vista later. I hope it's as good and durable as the reviews I've read.

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    Absolutely

    Dell's XPS line is generally pretty powerful. That's the kind of machine I'd like to have.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    I need a new laptop, should I go Vista home or pro? Also need Office 2007, either Home/Student or Pro. I had a Dell with XP Pro with Office 2003 until I quit my job. Worked fine at home and with clients.

    As you are looking at earning money from this forget Vista and go with XP Pro. Vista is still an unknown and there are way to many possible problems related with networking. Incidental there is no Vista Home or Pro there are 7 different versions in both the 32 Bit & 64 Bit platforms so all up that's 14 versions to chose from. Though if you simply must buy Vista buy the Ultimate Version at least you stand a chance of it working on a network where a Domain is present.

    What will compatibility issues be between Office 97 and Office 2007?

    God only knows but I wouldn't expect any Office 97 Documents to maintain their formatting under Office 2007 if it even capable of opening the file.

    As a start-up consulting business, what would be the best and cheapest route to achieve my objectives?

    Don't there are massive overheads that take forever to recover and high insurance that is required if you work on site in case you damage anything. Also if you are constantly moving a NB around you need a much more rugged one than one of the cheap nasty basic ones. It's a tool and as such you need not to skimp on it so that you can continue to work and not suffer any down time. Look at the Legal Requirements in your area and see what costs you are up for initially and how long it will take you to recoup these costs.

    I don't think I can run Office 2007 for Home & Students on XP Home. Not sure. Is there a way to piece it together without too many problems? Productivity without hassle is a key concern.

    Office 2007 actually works better on XP than it does on Vista things like the add on Accounting Program which is based on SQL 2005 work perfectly on XP where it fails to work on Vista.

    After I decide what to do, where can I get the best deal on the best machines for what I need - at home and with clients

    Depends on where you live but cheapest isn't necessarily best as you need reliability and not a cheap price where the unit is constantly being returned to the maker having the HDD wiped and reloaded with a Base Install to see if there is a software problem then charge you for their time if that fixes the problem and then fixing a hardware problem. These companies don't consider your data as important and will **** it away at every opportunity. Most students find this as unacceptable let alone someone using a unit like this as a tool for their work.

    You also run the risk of loosing control of any sensitive Data involved from Business that you consult for if this happens. And you will be legally liable for the loss of income and other damages done.

    Col

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    JDoe3

    Col,

    I think I found a good solution. I bought a Dell refurbished XPS M1210 with the specs to migrate to Vista EVENTUALLY. It has WP Pro so I shouldn't have problems connecting with clients' networks if I need to. It's pretty well-loaded for $1100 with a one-year warranty and 21 days to return. The M1210 is well-rated by most and appears to be well-constructed.

    As far as MS Office goes, I found 2003 Student and Teacher addition new for $60. It is compatible with 97 - I've been working back and forth between the two for years. And should translate well when I eventually update to Office 2007.

    I think it will work. Thanks for your advice.

    Jane

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    CharlieSpencer

    "Should I also buy a new desktop to match the features I get with the new laptop?"

    I'm wondering why you would want to buy two machines. For what the desktop is going to run you can get a better laptop, an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard, and still come out ahead financially. You'll save even more when you don't have to buy two copies of each application.

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    JDoe3

    I bought a refurb from Dell XPS M1210 for $1100 with XP Pro and specs to upgrade to Vista later. Also bought Office 2003 to sub out for Office 97. I'll hold off on the to the desktop until it dies one me. The Office 2003 is good for three licences so that should work for now and make later migration to Office 2007 easier.