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Hope to use Linux as my primary OS, need your help!

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Hope to use Linux as my primary OS, need your help!

Norehca
Yeah see i guess what i have in mind is to use FreeBSD, Ubuntu, or Debian (havnt chose yet) as a learning instrument, and to run my applications which include: Microsoft Office (OpenOffice), TV viewing/recording software, aim/gaim, various little apps, and of course Video games!. As you can see im a gamer and this pc is a gaming pc which i have built specifically for gaming. I already have about 2 years of expeience with Linux so i knowmy way around. Still have trouble with the file system. Its so confusing with all the 3 letter folders. And then theres the language. I REALLY hope to use Linux one day as my primary OS. I LOVE to play video games! I am a true gamer and i hear Linux puts out more FPS when it comes to video games. I dont think ill ever be a programmer, or really even an IT guy at all. But i love computers and i use them so much i want to learn as much as i can about them.

There is a problem though. I do know that many games are created around DirectX. Linux uses opengl for graphics rendering. Im pretty sure every game has the ability to run on opengl and apparently opengl has more features and better performance. But this is a WINE thing. I had a real hard time with WINE last time. Im pretty sure you pretty much run things simple by typing WINE "directory". And that was alittle annoying only a few programs didnt work. I was using ubuntu at the time. I figure because i will be playing so many video games i will need WINE. Unless imlucky enough that the game has a seperate installlation wizard for Linux.

Im also wondering what the best GUI (graphical user inerface) is for a linux operating system. What would you suggest? Ive herd of KDE, GNome, and some others i dont know at the top of my head. Preference im sure, but what do YOU think is the best. Why do YOU like it, and what do YOU use it for?

Untill that day comes when i swtich fully to Linux, which may very well not come, i will have my pc dual booted with whichever Linux OS i choose, and Windows X64. Im getting ready for the 64bit applications! :)

Im sure you all know by now what my system has but heres a brief description just in case: AMD64, 1GB RAM, ati x1950, 160gb HDD.

But then again, would you recommend Linux to a gamer? Or should i stick with dual booting?

I know this is alot to ask i guess, but being in this community for a while i realise how incredibly smart all of you are and am confident you can help me. This is very important to me. Thank you.

Acheron
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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    http://tinyurl.com/8b9s6

    So once you come to that acceptance you can then start to look at what is available to use as an emulator to run Windows Games on a Linux Platform.

    Your best bet is most likely PC Linux which there should be a new version available in a few days as the 2007 version is currently in the process of being finalised.

    For Windows Games on Linux Celigera is probably the best alternative available and for programs that you need to use from a Windows Background on Linux if you are unwilling to load a Linux alternative Code weavers would be the best currently available though the list of programs that it can support is limited.

    ZD Net has an article on Windows Emulators for Windows listed here

    http://tinyurl.com/2tlctb

    But it only covers some of the Emulators currently available and is by no meant a total package of what's available to use.

    For work programs most people find it easier to use a program written for Linux as it tends to work better and there are many places around the Open Source Community that you can pickup these pieces of software.

    Col

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    Norehca

    if i came off that way im sorry. i do not think that linux is windows. i know that linux is a totally different breed. Totally different kernel, totally different UI, totally different approach at running and using applications. i knwo this and respect this andlinux is in many ways better than windows and vice versa. thank you for your help! i will look through those emulators! :)

    hey wait a second. that top link! ive been there before! i read the whole thing in one of myclasses about a month ago.

    another edit: i checked out some screen shots for pclinux and wow! i think it looks awesome. great first impression. i cant wait to try it out. im going to do as you say and wait for the final release of 2007 to come out.

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    Tig2

    Unlike Windows where the OS is the only game in town, different linices and unices have different strengths and weaknesses. And I think that was what HAL was saying as well.

    You may find that some of what you want to do is best with WINE and some with Code weaver. And as time passes, you will be able to do more with each tool that you start learning today.

    You might want to check out the CNET sister site that is focused on gaming. I don't recall off the top the name of the site but I am certain that someone at TR can point you to it.

    I know many people who are focusing on Linux as an alternative in light of the recent Vista. There must be other gamers out there using Linux solutions. The other thing that you can try is to see if you can find a Linux User Group that is focused on gaming.

    Whatever you do, I wish you luck. You are coming to the question very openly and with a clear idea of what you want to accomplish. That alone will get you far.

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    Norehca

    I will look more into wine and code weaver and check out his CNET sister site you are talking about. Thank you very much for your input! I appreciate it greatly!

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    And many of the Windows Crowd who switch to it become almost Rabid in their defence of the platform.

    It might suit your gaming needs but it will not be great for much else as it doesn't have much in the way of security. But as a First platform away from Windows it's not bad. Just that it's not the best platform either but it really depends on what you want or need to do.

    Col

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    Deadly Ernest

    as I tried them out. I settled on SimplyMEPIS as I like it best. In each I installed Cedega from www.transgaming.com this is based on WINE from www.winehq.org and is designed specifically for playing Windows based games, it even has something to emulate or replace or allow DirectX (I'm not sure how it does it) to run. It cost US$5 per month subscription and you get as many copies and updates as you want. For my five bucks I'm allowed to put it on the 5 machines I have in my house. It might be a bit different if you were installing it in a commercial oeprations, say a Internet Cafe or the like - check with them.

    I tried dual boot and found it a real hassle.

    One thing I like about Cedega, it runs both my Win98 and WinXP games perfectly, something WinXP didn't do.

    edited to fix gramatical error, changed mind while typing.

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    Norehca

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!

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    Deadly Ernest

    I haven't tried to run games in WINE, but many should work, Cedega uses the same base code but has some specialised extras.

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    Norehca

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!

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    Norehca

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!

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    Norehca

    dammit glitch! sorry for the 4 posts!

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list along with code weaver. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    http://tinyurl.com/8b9s6

    So once you come to that acceptance you can then start to look at what is available to use as an emulator to run Windows Games on a Linux Platform.

    Your best bet is most likely PC Linux which there should be a new version available in a few days as the 2007 version is currently in the process of being finalised.

    For Windows Games on Linux Celigera is probably the best alternative available and for programs that you need to use from a Windows Background on Linux if you are unwilling to load a Linux alternative Code weavers would be the best currently available though the list of programs that it can support is limited.

    ZD Net has an article on Windows Emulators for Windows listed here

    http://tinyurl.com/2tlctb

    But it only covers some of the Emulators currently available and is by no meant a total package of what's available to use.

    For work programs most people find it easier to use a program written for Linux as it tends to work better and there are many places around the Open Source Community that you can pickup these pieces of software.

    Col

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    Norehca

    if i came off that way im sorry. i do not think that linux is windows. i know that linux is a totally different breed. Totally different kernel, totally different UI, totally different approach at running and using applications. i knwo this and respect this andlinux is in many ways better than windows and vice versa. thank you for your help! i will look through those emulators! :)

    hey wait a second. that top link! ive been there before! i read the whole thing in one of myclasses about a month ago.

    another edit: i checked out some screen shots for pclinux and wow! i think it looks awesome. great first impression. i cant wait to try it out. im going to do as you say and wait for the final release of 2007 to come out.

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    Tig2

    Unlike Windows where the OS is the only game in town, different linices and unices have different strengths and weaknesses. And I think that was what HAL was saying as well.

    You may find that some of what you want to do is best with WINE and some with Code weaver. And as time passes, you will be able to do more with each tool that you start learning today.

    You might want to check out the CNET sister site that is focused on gaming. I don't recall off the top the name of the site but I am certain that someone at TR can point you to it.

    I know many people who are focusing on Linux as an alternative in light of the recent Vista. There must be other gamers out there using Linux solutions. The other thing that you can try is to see if you can find a Linux User Group that is focused on gaming.

    Whatever you do, I wish you luck. You are coming to the question very openly and with a clear idea of what you want to accomplish. That alone will get you far.

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    Norehca

    I will look more into wine and code weaver and check out his CNET sister site you are talking about. Thank you very much for your input! I appreciate it greatly!

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    And many of the Windows Crowd who switch to it become almost Rabid in their defence of the platform.

    It might suit your gaming needs but it will not be great for much else as it doesn't have much in the way of security. But as a First platform away from Windows it's not bad. Just that it's not the best platform either but it really depends on what you want or need to do.

    Col

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    Deadly Ernest

    as I tried them out. I settled on SimplyMEPIS as I like it best. In each I installed Cedega from www.transgaming.com this is based on WINE from www.winehq.org and is designed specifically for playing Windows based games, it even has something to emulate or replace or allow DirectX (I'm not sure how it does it) to run. It cost US$5 per month subscription and you get as many copies and updates as you want. For my five bucks I'm allowed to put it on the 5 machines I have in my house. It might be a bit different if you were installing it in a commercial oeprations, say a Internet Cafe or the like - check with them.

    I tried dual boot and found it a real hassle.

    One thing I like about Cedega, it runs both my Win98 and WinXP games perfectly, something WinXP didn't do.

    edited to fix gramatical error, changed mind while typing.

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    Norehca

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!

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    Deadly Ernest

    I haven't tried to run games in WINE, but many should work, Cedega uses the same base code but has some specialised extras.

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    Norehca

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!

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    Norehca

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!

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    Norehca

    dammit glitch! sorry for the 4 posts!

    that i would like to get a free solution. so unfortunatly Cedega is off the list along with code weaver. i dunno, i will look into it. if it will allow me to atleast try it free of charge ill check it out. as for the money part. im not being cheap honsetly. and i AM looking for a job. if i like Cedega enough i guess ill settle for it. but ive got a large list of OS's to try which will make my copy of vmware useful. thank you again!