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how to see error message?

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how to see error message?

paladin2
Occasionally I get these error messages that show for less than a second right after I click the 'turn off' box on my XP. It's maddening as they come and go with no hint in the behavior on the machine other than sometimes it takes two and sometimes even three minutes to fully boot. My OS is on a fast Samsung SLC SSD and a minute should be the absolute max and sometimes I can boot and get photoshop open in that time. But even cloned to a 7200rpm regular disk the damn error message is gone before the human eye can get it. How do I review error messages and are they even viewable? It's driving me nuts (that's a bit of an overstatement actually) but it's a problem I just can't figure out. I've even sat with my Fuji s100fs set at 7 frames a second but by the time my hand gets to the camera the error message is already gone.
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    paladin2

    the subject line is really the whole message. And sincerely, thanks. Tho I'm not sure what to do with the info I got. But that's another whole project. Again, thanks

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    OldER Mycroft

    Then there is a strange occurrence here - you normally get error messages when you Boot, not when you Shutdown - there is no protocol to receive error messages on shutdown.

    Are you sure it's not happening on Boot ?!

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    seanferd

    "Windows is saving your settings..."

    Are we even sure it is an error message?

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    paladin2

    I found, thanks to instructions of another poster how to find and use the event viewer and it tells me that the error message is because something is using the registry at the same time my profile is shutting it down. I haven't yet tried to figure out what's doing what and how to stop it but now I know at least. I'm sure when I can find some minutes I'll figure out how to fix it. And if I can't I'll come back again. It was here I got the instructions to the event log, or is it event viewer? Regardless I'm on the road to a fix and I'm just happy it's nothing too serious.

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    paladin2

    Of course I'm sure it's on shut down and not the boot. I'm no computer genius or anything but I do know the difference between on and off and startup and shutdown. I got an answer that pointed me towards an answer but I'm not sure what the message means, other than it's nothing too serious I think. I'll post the contents of what I found a bit later. thanks

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    Jacky Howe

    Click Start, Run and type Regedt32 and press Enter.

    Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control.

    Click on the "Control" Folder. In the right hand pane you will see WaitToKillServiceTimeout

    Right click on it and select Modify. The default value is 20000.

    Set it to a lower value (10000).

    Restart the PC.

    If it is not working decrease the Value to 4 digits (5000).

    Have a play as those messages are references to items that are trying to be shutdown.

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    paladin2

    From the time I click the shut down button till it's lights out is almost always exactly 6 seconds. So I have no problems with shut down time being too long. In fact it might be involved with the error message I finally, with the help of another in this post, got and it says something about my profile shutting down while something else is using the registry. I use a 64GB SLC SSD for my OS and it's really really fast. I expected fast when I bought it but .01 seek times were more than I'd hoped for. If I put Photoshop in my startup programs in a couple of seconds less than a minute it's up, running and photoshop is ready to roll. It's still amazing to watch even after 6 months of using it.

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    Jacky Howe

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    paladin2

    Sorry for not noticing that fact. Very sorry. to tell you the truth I just discovered, probably by accident, that I could post a question here. I get every and any tech related paper I can and get an inbox full of them. I'm not that slow a learner but I am still learning.

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    Jacky Howe

    Rome wasn't built in one day and we all have to start somewhere. Good luck with your future endevours.

    Rob

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    Nimmo

    In regards to your PC taking a long time to boot up you may want to do some general housekeeping.

    First run a check disk with a /f then reboot, if you've never done this then click start>run>type 'cmd'>type 'chkdsk /f'.

    You will receive a message stating that it can't run in repair mode because the drive is in use, then ask if you want to run it next reboot, press 'y' and reboot.

    On reboot you'll see a check disk utility screen so just let it do its thing, once it's done it will reboot.

    Once you've logged back into Windows you should also defrag your drive, I suggests not using the Windows defrag utility but to download something like power defrag and run it in triple pass mode.

    http://tinyurl.com/z74l3

    (Triple pass mode will take some time especially if your drive is heavily fragmented)

    Another thing to note is when you install and run power defrag for the first time you will get a message that contig is missing and you will be asked if you'd like to download it so say yes. (it kinda looks like an error message)

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    paladin2

    My problem has nothing to do with boot time. With my Samsung SLC SSD from pushing the power button until it's ready to work is 44 seconds last I checked. I'm a maintenance freak and use Perfect Disk for defrag and run chkdsk using the install disk regularly. I probably have the cleanest laptop in Costa Rica and all that gets me is a pile of other peoples laptops asking that I 'fix' their slow computers. Maybe your post was to the wrong item? I searched the event viewer and that problem has to do with something using the registry the same time my profile is shutting it down. Thanks to the poster that steered me to the event viewer. The times it takes more than the 40 some seconds to boot I suspect another message I get from time to time about flushing some type of file that remembers and keeps programs involved with booting up, so the computer has to locate them each time I do it. Sometimes it happens but most times not. I've tried unchecking boxes in CCleaner, so far to mixed results, can't find anything in Opera that might be dumping that type of file but I'm not sure I know where to look for such settings in Opera. IE only gets used once a month to check for updates so that's probably not where these files are getting dumped from. I'm still working (when I have the time) to find exactly what's getting dumped and where and what program is doing it. I used to empty all my Temp files each time I shut down but stopping that didn't eliminate that particular problem.

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    paladin2

    the subject line is really the whole message. And sincerely, thanks. Tho I'm not sure what to do with the info I got. But that's another whole project. Again, thanks

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    OldER Mycroft

    Then there is a strange occurrence here - you normally get error messages when you Boot, not when you Shutdown - there is no protocol to receive error messages on shutdown.

    Are you sure it's not happening on Boot ?!

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    seanferd

    "Windows is saving your settings..."

    Are we even sure it is an error message?

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    paladin2

    I found, thanks to instructions of another poster how to find and use the event viewer and it tells me that the error message is because something is using the registry at the same time my profile is shutting it down. I haven't yet tried to figure out what's doing what and how to stop it but now I know at least. I'm sure when I can find some minutes I'll figure out how to fix it. And if I can't I'll come back again. It was here I got the instructions to the event log, or is it event viewer? Regardless I'm on the road to a fix and I'm just happy it's nothing too serious.

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    paladin2

    Of course I'm sure it's on shut down and not the boot. I'm no computer genius or anything but I do know the difference between on and off and startup and shutdown. I got an answer that pointed me towards an answer but I'm not sure what the message means, other than it's nothing too serious I think. I'll post the contents of what I found a bit later. thanks

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    Jacky Howe

    Click Start, Run and type Regedt32 and press Enter.

    Navigate to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control.

    Click on the "Control" Folder. In the right hand pane you will see WaitToKillServiceTimeout

    Right click on it and select Modify. The default value is 20000.

    Set it to a lower value (10000).

    Restart the PC.

    If it is not working decrease the Value to 4 digits (5000).

    Have a play as those messages are references to items that are trying to be shutdown.

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    paladin2

    From the time I click the shut down button till it's lights out is almost always exactly 6 seconds. So I have no problems with shut down time being too long. In fact it might be involved with the error message I finally, with the help of another in this post, got and it says something about my profile shutting down while something else is using the registry. I use a 64GB SLC SSD for my OS and it's really really fast. I expected fast when I bought it but .01 seek times were more than I'd hoped for. If I put Photoshop in my startup programs in a couple of seconds less than a minute it's up, running and photoshop is ready to roll. It's still amazing to watch even after 6 months of using it.

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    Jacky Howe

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    paladin2

    Sorry for not noticing that fact. Very sorry. to tell you the truth I just discovered, probably by accident, that I could post a question here. I get every and any tech related paper I can and get an inbox full of them. I'm not that slow a learner but I am still learning.

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    Hey

    Jacky Howe

    Rome wasn't built in one day and we all have to start somewhere. Good luck with your future endevours.

    Rob

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    Nimmo

    In regards to your PC taking a long time to boot up you may want to do some general housekeeping.

    First run a check disk with a /f then reboot, if you've never done this then click start>run>type 'cmd'>type 'chkdsk /f'.

    You will receive a message stating that it can't run in repair mode because the drive is in use, then ask if you want to run it next reboot, press 'y' and reboot.

    On reboot you'll see a check disk utility screen so just let it do its thing, once it's done it will reboot.

    Once you've logged back into Windows you should also defrag your drive, I suggests not using the Windows defrag utility but to download something like power defrag and run it in triple pass mode.

    http://tinyurl.com/z74l3

    (Triple pass mode will take some time especially if your drive is heavily fragmented)

    Another thing to note is when you install and run power defrag for the first time you will get a message that contig is missing and you will be asked if you'd like to download it so say yes. (it kinda looks like an error message)

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    paladin2

    My problem has nothing to do with boot time. With my Samsung SLC SSD from pushing the power button until it's ready to work is 44 seconds last I checked. I'm a maintenance freak and use Perfect Disk for defrag and run chkdsk using the install disk regularly. I probably have the cleanest laptop in Costa Rica and all that gets me is a pile of other peoples laptops asking that I 'fix' their slow computers. Maybe your post was to the wrong item? I searched the event viewer and that problem has to do with something using the registry the same time my profile is shutting it down. Thanks to the poster that steered me to the event viewer. The times it takes more than the 40 some seconds to boot I suspect another message I get from time to time about flushing some type of file that remembers and keeps programs involved with booting up, so the computer has to locate them each time I do it. Sometimes it happens but most times not. I've tried unchecking boxes in CCleaner, so far to mixed results, can't find anything in Opera that might be dumping that type of file but I'm not sure I know where to look for such settings in Opera. IE only gets used once a month to check for updates so that's probably not where these files are getting dumped from. I'm still working (when I have the time) to find exactly what's getting dumped and where and what program is doing it. I used to empty all my Temp files each time I shut down but stopping that didn't eliminate that particular problem.