+ 0 Votes tried to thank Juanita Marquez birchswinger April 23, 2013 at 12:22am PST For some reason the site isn't saving edits I'm trying to make today, even though it says under my post that I "edited" it a minute ago. I did TRY to edit two things, and repeatedly hit save button (was logged in) but changes have not been saved. Anyway. Juanita, your name was supposed to be in the blank. + 0 Votes Just wanted to chime in here... -Loanman April 24, 2013 at 9:06am PST @birchswinger: It is unfortunate that so many in my profession lack even rudimentary social skills, and think that name-calling is an ok thing to do. I would like to apologize on behalf of true IT professionals everywhere for the conduct of one or two on this thread who claim to be professional but demonstrate otherwise by communicating in a most unprofessional way. If I talked to end-users the way you have been addressed here, I would quickly become a professional unemployment recipient. I hope all goes well for you and that you are granted a modicum of peace. All that being said, I'd love to get my hands on the jerk/s who perpetrated this evil on you and do some very unprofessional things to them. + 0 Votes Not to carry the thread on endlessly, but some more good vibes birchswinger Updated - April 25, 2013 at 2:06pm PST Thanks for the useful info, Slayer and PurpleSkys, and I appreciate your patience. And LOANMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. What you said was really lovely. The closing line is my favorite. It's remarkable how powerfully good it feels to hear someone say, in essence, "You didn't deserve to be hurt, and I'd stand by you and teach these jerks that they won't be hurting you anymore." Because that's what I needed (kinda still need) WAY more than anything else: emotional support. The lessons from my own experience suggest to me that a person in a situation like the one I've described will probably be able to get through some truly hellish things (even in the absence of successful, real-world solutions to the problem )as long as she feels that others are emotionally there for her. So thanks again, Loanman. + 0 Votes This did happen years ago, etc. + Why this is not "close to a non-issue", birchswinger April 26, 2013 at 9:50am PST Slayer, I just saw your Q. The only thing I know is who STARTED the harassment. He'd been doing creepy, scary things for years all on his own (as far as I know) before anyone else signed on to join him, and God only knows how something like that can happen. One would think it would be a serious challenge finding just one sicko kindred spirit to participate in something like this, let alone a bunch? Seems like it would be, but constantly telling myself that this couldn't be happening didn't make it so, because it was happening. (And pedophiles manage to find one another, so ...? Some people are gross; I'll leave it there.) And Slayer, no, the guy never got caught. I believe he's currently working as a "consultant" for a major internet service provider. As to why I've written about this now: I learned the term "rootkit" from a kindly tech guy who I'd spoken with about the problem, and I did share what I'd been told about them (as well as the details of my library experiences) with the head librarian, but I don't know that any action was taken. Had I been able to print out that professional journal article on the subject that was written expressly for librarians perhaps it might have helped my case. I suspect that the librarian's take on me at the time was that on the one hand I seemed sane, but on the other hand I was describing something that seemed SUPER unlikely, and I'm guessing she wasn't hearing about this problem from anyone else. (I'd gone to the library, by the way, because my computer at home had been similarly compromised.) Had she been better informed she would have helped me, I think.This happened in 2006, yet in 2013 there still seem to be very few lay people who've even ever heard of a root kit, or other stuff of that ilk, and I think it's essential for everyone to understand that things like this have happened and do happen. Certainly all administrators of computer networks need to be aware of this stuff. I shudder to think of the things that are surely happening to other good people out there, and the way they'll likely be treated if they dare to speak about it or seek help. To be targeted for harassment is really hard, but to be dismissed out of hand as someone who's psychotic (and the idea there, though not admitted, is often that the mentally ill person is by definition not worth actually helping) ----that is devastating ---especially when some people apply this label so contemptuously. Let's face it: If I were deluded because of a brain disease it would not be my fault. Furthermore, the awful reality is that there are some bad people who relish victimizing those who are vulnerable, who will be questioned and dismissed: those with mental illness, people with developmental disabilities, people with poor support systems and lack of income, etc. This stuff happens. In my opinion it would be far better to take all complaints seriously (i.e., actually investigate them) than to not do that and be an unwitting accomplice to an evil scumbag who preys on the vulnerable. Real innocent people are being hurt out in the digital Wild West, and they are being abandoned by others who might help them. At least a couple of people here at TR have called this thread a silly discussion about something that doesn't really merit any attention, but they're mistaken.