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How was someone else able to control a library computer?

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How was someone else able to control a library computer?

birchswinger
I broke off a romance with a tech geek who turned out to have unsavory connections. Initially he stalked me solo (I think), but somehow eventually got others to participate. Sounds implausible, but it happened and I have witnesses. QUESTION: During 2006 I repeatedly had this experience: I'd go to the library and begin to use a computer. All would be fine, but after a short time one of these proxy stalkers would show up, plant himself behind me, and start texting. Very quickly I'd lose control and/or access on that computer. I learned to beat the game, sort of, by suddenly running to a random computer, typing in an address I'd copied, and printing immediately. This was the only way to get any information on anything that might help me. A couple of times the thing I was reading disappeared,the screen and text changed color, and I was suddenly reading hostile messages like, "There's nothing for you here. Move along". (This when I'd found an article on rootkits in a journal for librarians.) Generally I don't share this bizarre story with people, because I know they'll be at least skeptical. But this stuff ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and I'd be grateful if you could help me understand HOW. Thanks in advance.
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RSmiedy
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Good explination. I just have one objetion, and please remember I am not trying to be rude but, birchswinger said the computer was displaying a message that said "There's nothing for you here. Move along." Why would they have that message pop up if something was blocked.

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Warwick05
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Hie I am no geek when it comes to computer security but from my experience I think this stalker might have hacked the library system and somehow managed to create a rootkit that monitors you when ever you login in to the system and start disrupting you, if this could help there is a software called RAT , its a remote access tool used to send Trojans and control whatever system that is infected the way you like, I suggest you read about it maybe you will have a n understanding on how it is possible.

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Slayer_
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Since it was originally posted on TR, it should be ok.

If the Library has open wireless. Download firesheep for firefox and use it to monitor the network. Then steal your stalkers login credentials and mess with them for a bit.

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cybergrrl
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...before asking any questions on TR as a result of this thread. I agree the response by wizard57m-cnet is rude and insulting, not only to birchswinger, but to other TR responders as well. I'm glad to hear that's not the norm. It seems the "helpful" responses here have helped explain "how" this could have happened, just as birchswinger asked, without giving any suggestion of hacking, cracking, or password circumvention. There's a difference between asking how a computer can be compromised and how to compromise a computer.

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OH Smeg
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So how would you personally approach dealing with Problem Questions?

The response submitted above was worked out by the TR Peers in an attempt to make a standard response which was neutral.

If you think that the response above was Rude you can contribute the the discussion on the Standard Response here.

www.techrepublic.com/forum/discussions/103-341154?tag=content;discussion-table

Of course the response that some used to use which involves driving a solid metal rod through a CRT Monitor while being protected by having several points of the body directly connected tot he Metal Rod being driven through a running CRT Monitor which results in Electrocution and death may be your idea of a suitable answer.

TR is supposed to be a place for TR Pros not for end users who come out with silly I forgot my password so you have to tell me how I can break it demands.

On the whole we don't mind helping people but the reality is that some are just unbelievable and are treated as such by many TR Members. If that is Rude in your Eyes I would suggest that you are not a IT Professional and are a end user who would be better served by going elsewhere where Jaded IT Professionals are not likely to call what is obviously the ramblings of a Mad-Person are considered as both Common Place and Reasonable.

The reality is that People do not Cyber Stalk strangers and those who are stalked tend to bring it on themselves by their own actions.

Personally i would have deleted the entire thread but that's just me as I would expect to see many of the Regulars here have fun with the OP and feed their Paranoid Delusions. When you ask stupid unbelievable questions of Professionals you have to expect to be treated accordingly and if you don't expect to get called out for what you have posted on a Public Forum you need much more help from Mental Health Professionals which simply can not be provided here nor should it be expected.

Remember the carry ons in things like Days of Our Lives is Make Believe not Real Life.

Col

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gechurch
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@OH Smeg

Wow! Condesending much! These forums are a place to help people. If you want to use them to treat people like crap and call them names because they aren't "professional" enough for your elitist attitude then I'd suggest that you're the type of person we don't want here. Honestly, where do you get off?

"So how would you personally approach dealing with Problem Questions?"

Your question assumes that this is in fact a problem question. I'm all for not helping people hack here but that simply is not the case here. Anyone that interprets "can anyone help me understand how a stalker was doing this?" as "Please tell me the specific steps I need to take to hack into a computer system, even though I haven't even mentioned which OS the system is running" has problems if you ask me.

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Slayer_
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This whole thread is getting funny.

Hack that library computer.
Just like that girl in school, everyone has already done it at least once.

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OH Smeg
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OK then Me Bad as I posted the wrong link. The correct one is here

http://www.techrepublic .com/forum/discussions/102-248696-2392005
remember to remove the space from between the techrepublic and the .com for a working link.

Feel free to contribute to that discussion and I can tell you that there will be no complaints about resurrecting a Zombie Thread from anyone here who moderates the site so go ahead and jump right in.

Unfortunately your Reading Comprehension is a Fail and you need to brush up on that one. I draw your attention to

Wow! Condesending much! These forums are a place to help people. If you want to use them to treat people like crap and call them names because they aren't "professional" enough for your elitist attitude then I'd suggest that you're the type of person we don't want here. Honestly, where do you get off?

Care to post back with that is what i said or in any way implied as my personal belief? What I said actually was

The response submitted above was worked out by the TR Peers in an attempt to make a standard response which was neutral.

If you think that the response above was Rude you can contribute the the discussion on the Standard Response here.


That in no way implies that is what I would have said it does most certainly say however it could happen and has happened in the past by some others who I did not mention.

I'm more than willing to engage in a conversation along these lines but you have to sit back dispassionately and read what was written not what you want to believe was written.

If you really believe that there are no Jaded IT pros here may I ask what it is you are smoking and can I have some? I very well remember a discussion way back when a guy from South Africa made a post for workers to move to South Africa and the responses that got. About 6 months latter a company called Conical was started and while I can not prove that is the same person asking for staff to work there there has also not been any other new business started in the time frame so I believe that it's safe to add 2 + 2 and believe that the answer is 4.

You have to remember that Nice is not normal on the Net and many people are downright NASTY believing that they are safe from being discovered for who that they actually are.

What I did say above was that I honestly expected far worse that was given and if people where so upset that the should contribute to the Discussion that was had here to give a standard response that doesn't raise any hackles.

So I'll say it again feel free to participate in the discussion at the above link. :0

Col

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gechurch
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I've got no issue with the standard response when applied correctly. But you'd have to be either genuinely idiotic (which clearly you are not), or deliberatly attempting to misdirect if you thought it was the standard response that I found rude, while ignoring your statements like:
* "obviously the ramblings of a Mad-Person"
* "Paranoid Delusions"
* "When you ask stupid unbelievable questions"
* "The reality is that People do not Cyber Stalk strangers and those who are stalked tend to bring it on themselves by their own actions"

Those things are all unfounded, uncalled for, and incredibly rude and condescending.

I'm sure there are plenty of jaded IT pro's here. So what? That means that no-one is allowed to come and ask questions here, because it might upset people that are already jaded?? Now who's dillusional. Perhaps you're one of those jaded IT professionals that don't like answering stupid questions. That's absolutely fine - don't answer! But being jaded is no reason to go around demeaning people you know nothing about. If you want to be unneccessarily rude to people you don't know in forums go join Slashdot or Youtube because you're right, this here is a place for professionals.

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OH Smeg
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Well then I suppose you should read my post above as a question to the person who posted and not the the Original Poster which it was never intended for.

After all it was a reply to Cybergirl who specifically posted

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...before asking any questions on TR as a result of this thread. I agree the response by wizard57m-cnet is rude and insulting, not only to birchswinger, but to other TR responders as well.


The above was in no way aimed at the OP and I can not see how it could be interpreted that way either. but as you prefer to limit your responses to the following lets have a look see shall we?

* "obviously the ramblings of a Mad-Person"
* "Paranoid Delusions"
* "When you ask stupid unbelievable questions"
* "The reality is that People do not Cyber Stalk strangers and those who are stalked tend to bring it on themselves by their own actions"


obviously the ramblings of a Mad-Person" was used this way

If that is Rude in your Eyes I would suggest that you are not a IT Professional and are a end user who would be better served by going elsewhere where Jaded IT Professionals are not likely to call what is obviously the ramblings of a Mad-Person are considered as both Common Place and Reasonable.

So just how is that in any way directly directed at the OP here? I was suggesting that the person in question may not be a Thick Skinned IT professional who is constantly blamed for what doesn't work in the eyes of the people who want it to. It was not intended to in any way relate to the OP here but was aimed as a general question on Questionable Content that does get posted on this Forum.

It is up to the people appointed as Moderators to remove posts like that and if anything it makes them more Jaded than they already where. Personally I deliberately refrained from posting a answer to the OP here because I felt the post was way too open and left too much room for abuse.

as for

The reality is that People do not Cyber Stalk strangers and those who are stalked tend to bring it on themselves by their own actions"

Sorry but that is exactly what the AU Federal Police say and to all intents and purposes is correct. There are very few people who get stalked who do not know the person stalking them and of those who are stalked and do not know who the person is they mostly happen to be Celebrities who get No Hoper Losers fasting onto them as a means to improve their perceived shortcomings.

That to is in no way directed as the OP here and was posted in Response to a direct comment claiming that it was rude to say something.

Well unfortunately the fact of life is that most people who hide behind an Alases on the Net are more than Rude they are Downright Objectionable.

But to make you feel better if you like I can delete the entire thread as it's now gone beyond the bizarre.

So would you like me to delete it?

Col