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I can't connect to a shared printer on my XP computer through my 7 one

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I can't connect to a shared printer on my XP computer through my 7 one

inventor96
I'm trying to print to an Epson printer over my network that is hooked up by a USB port to a Dell tower that is running Windows XP. I have a Toshiba laptop that is running Windows 7. I want to share files between the two, and I want to print documents, that are on my laptop, on the printer that is hooked up to the Dell tower. I have only once seen the Dell on the computers list on my laptop through the network window, both machines are in the same workgroup, I can ping the Dell successfully from my Toshiba through Command Prompt and vise versa. The printer IS shared on the Dell, and other XP machines can print to it.
I'm not sure what to do next since contacting Microsoft didn't work well.
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    To share printers attached to XP computers with either 64 bit or 32 bit versions of Windows 7 is simple (once you know how that is). :)
    These instructions are for the printer attached to the XP machine (but works in reverse as well).

    "Stand alone" Network printers can be done some what similar.

    Assuming the computers are called, for example: "XPcomputer" and "W7Computer".

    1) Ensure Printer on XP computer is shared - assume it's called SHAREDPRINTER.

    2) On the Network Browsing on your Windows 7 computer ensure you can "See" the Printer share.

    Now on the Windows 7 machine do the following (doesn't matter if it's X-86 or x-64).

    3) Control Panel==> add LOCAL (Yes LOCAL) printer. I know it is on a Network but what we are actually doing is tricking the Windows 7 machine into thinking it's running the printer.

    4) Create NEW port==>Local port

    5) Portname is \\XPcomputer\SHAREDPRINTER

    6) Now Windows 7 will load a driver and you'll be able to print on the XP machine.


    (For a "Network stand alone printer") at 4) chose TCPIP port
    and at 5) enter the IP address.


    If the printer is on the Windows 7 computer and you want to print on the XP computer then do the same instructions on the XP computer ..
    port name in this case will be \\W7computer\SHAREDPRINTER

    Hope this works for you.

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    inventor96

    OK, I got to step 2, and I couldn't even see my own laptop in the list. If it makes a difference, my laptop is the ONLY one that runs 7, all of the other four run XP.
    Thanks.

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    Which ever computer the printer is attached to make sure that the "C" harddrive is marked as "Shared". How? read here:
    If you have sharing turned on, you can find any shared drive on your network by entering the computer name and {drive letter}$ like this:
    \\COMPUTERNAME\C$

    These are hidden in network browsing by default and are generally reserved for network administration. Best practices suggest creating a resource share specific to the drive or a folder on the drive.
    Simple File Sharing

    If you use a network file sharing, be sure to have a router with a strong password and a firewall application protecting your network.

    In Windows Explorer, choose Tools > Folder Options from the menu and click on the View tab. Scroll to the bottom and verify the checkbox next to Simple File Sharing is checked.

    Workgroup Configuration

    You indicate that both computers are visible on the network, which should mean they are both part of the same workgroup. To verify Workgroup settings match, open the System Properties either by right-clicking on My Computer and choosing properties from the start menu or by using the Windows Key + Pause/Break on the keyboard. Click on the Computer Name tab for each computer and check the Workgroup name.

    If the Workgroup name matches on both machines close system properties. If not, click on the Change button and enter the correct Workgroup name.

    After making changes you will be prompted for a restart.

    Sharing A Hard Drive
    The more secure method for sharing your drive is to require authentication across the network when making a connection. Rather than using simple sharing, you share your drive on a case-by-case basis and specify which users have access. This way you can disable the Guest account and only allow a user with a password to get in.

    For this method of file sharing, open Tools > Folder Options from the Windows Explorer menu and click on the View tab. Scroll to the bottom and verify the checkbox next to Simple File Sharing is NOT checked.

    Right-click the drive you want to share, click the radio button for Share this folder. Click on the New Share button and name your share.

    Click on the Permissions button and check the Allow Full Control box (which automatically checks change). Click OK until you exit the sharing setup.

    On the computer with the shared drive, create a user account with the same name and password as the account you login with on your other computer. By creating this user, when you login to your computer, you will also be authenticated to access the shared drive. For access settings to take effect you need to reboot the computer with the shared drive (and possibly your other computer as well).

    Using this second method of security, you can create additional access control by providing read access for the drive, but only allowing changes to specific folders on the drive.

    Once you have done the Above, go to "Network" and find your computer with the "Shared" drive, now click on the icon of that computer (you might be asked for a password, so be sure you now it), it should list your Printer, now click on that printer and follow the instructions, you might get a message like "printer drives installing" or "do you want to load the printer drivers" just click on yes. Now your printer drivers will download onto your Windows 7 machine, once that is done do not close the window but go to your "printer" section of your operating system and you should have the icon of your printer, make sure it is marked as the default printer.

    Ok, i hope this helps you out some what.
    Now i am going to have a cup of tea.
    :)

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    inventor96

    I'm not sure how having a shared folder will help printing, although there already is one on my laptop, and there used to be a shared one on the XP one, it still didn't help.
    Thanks anyway!

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    lordsords

    1) to see other PCs you would need to turn on Network Discovery in "Network sharing center" on Win 7
    2) If yoy are not able to simply "Rightclick and connect" the shared printer - a driver update might be needed - e.g for Win7(avilable drivers are installed on the host PC and set when sharing the printer).

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    inventor96

    Network Discovery is turned on, and I have all of the other settings set to supposedly help with the printer sharing. I have both the USB and network drivers for the printer installed on my laptop, it prints just fine through USB, so I just need to make the machines see each other steadily, not off and on (with most of it being off). Maybe I just need to contact Microsoft directly.
    Thanks!

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    To share printers attached to XP computers with either 64 bit or 32 bit versions of Windows 7 is simple (once you know how that is). :)
    These instructions are for the printer attached to the XP machine (but works in reverse as well).

    "Stand alone" Network printers can be done some what similar.

    Assuming the computers are called, for example: "XPcomputer" and "W7Computer".

    1) Ensure Printer on XP computer is shared - assume it's called SHAREDPRINTER.

    2) On the Network Browsing on your Windows 7 computer ensure you can "See" the Printer share.

    Now on the Windows 7 machine do the following (doesn't matter if it's X-86 or x-64).

    3) Control Panel==> add LOCAL (Yes LOCAL) printer. I know it is on a Network but what we are actually doing is tricking the Windows 7 machine into thinking it's running the printer.

    4) Create NEW port==>Local port

    5) Portname is \\XPcomputer\SHAREDPRINTER

    6) Now Windows 7 will load a driver and you'll be able to print on the XP machine.


    (For a "Network stand alone printer") at 4) chose TCPIP port
    and at 5) enter the IP address.


    If the printer is on the Windows 7 computer and you want to print on the XP computer then do the same instructions on the XP computer ..
    port name in this case will be \\W7computer\SHAREDPRINTER

    Hope this works for you.

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    inventor96

    OK, I got to step 2, and I couldn't even see my own laptop in the list. If it makes a difference, my laptop is the ONLY one that runs 7, all of the other four run XP.
    Thanks.

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    Which ever computer the printer is attached to make sure that the "C" harddrive is marked as "Shared". How? read here:
    If you have sharing turned on, you can find any shared drive on your network by entering the computer name and {drive letter}$ like this:
    \\COMPUTERNAME\C$

    These are hidden in network browsing by default and are generally reserved for network administration. Best practices suggest creating a resource share specific to the drive or a folder on the drive.
    Simple File Sharing

    If you use a network file sharing, be sure to have a router with a strong password and a firewall application protecting your network.

    In Windows Explorer, choose Tools > Folder Options from the menu and click on the View tab. Scroll to the bottom and verify the checkbox next to Simple File Sharing is checked.

    Workgroup Configuration

    You indicate that both computers are visible on the network, which should mean they are both part of the same workgroup. To verify Workgroup settings match, open the System Properties either by right-clicking on My Computer and choosing properties from the start menu or by using the Windows Key + Pause/Break on the keyboard. Click on the Computer Name tab for each computer and check the Workgroup name.

    If the Workgroup name matches on both machines close system properties. If not, click on the Change button and enter the correct Workgroup name.

    After making changes you will be prompted for a restart.

    Sharing A Hard Drive
    The more secure method for sharing your drive is to require authentication across the network when making a connection. Rather than using simple sharing, you share your drive on a case-by-case basis and specify which users have access. This way you can disable the Guest account and only allow a user with a password to get in.

    For this method of file sharing, open Tools > Folder Options from the Windows Explorer menu and click on the View tab. Scroll to the bottom and verify the checkbox next to Simple File Sharing is NOT checked.

    Right-click the drive you want to share, click the radio button for Share this folder. Click on the New Share button and name your share.

    Click on the Permissions button and check the Allow Full Control box (which automatically checks change). Click OK until you exit the sharing setup.

    On the computer with the shared drive, create a user account with the same name and password as the account you login with on your other computer. By creating this user, when you login to your computer, you will also be authenticated to access the shared drive. For access settings to take effect you need to reboot the computer with the shared drive (and possibly your other computer as well).

    Using this second method of security, you can create additional access control by providing read access for the drive, but only allowing changes to specific folders on the drive.

    Once you have done the Above, go to "Network" and find your computer with the "Shared" drive, now click on the icon of that computer (you might be asked for a password, so be sure you now it), it should list your Printer, now click on that printer and follow the instructions, you might get a message like "printer drives installing" or "do you want to load the printer drivers" just click on yes. Now your printer drivers will download onto your Windows 7 machine, once that is done do not close the window but go to your "printer" section of your operating system and you should have the icon of your printer, make sure it is marked as the default printer.

    Ok, i hope this helps you out some what.
    Now i am going to have a cup of tea.
    :)

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    inventor96

    I'm not sure how having a shared folder will help printing, although there already is one on my laptop, and there used to be a shared one on the XP one, it still didn't help.
    Thanks anyway!

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    lordsords

    1) to see other PCs you would need to turn on Network Discovery in "Network sharing center" on Win 7
    2) If yoy are not able to simply "Rightclick and connect" the shared printer - a driver update might be needed - e.g for Win7(avilable drivers are installed on the host PC and set when sharing the printer).

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    inventor96

    Network Discovery is turned on, and I have all of the other settings set to supposedly help with the printer sharing. I have both the USB and network drivers for the printer installed on my laptop, it prints just fine through USB, so I just need to make the machines see each other steadily, not off and on (with most of it being off). Maybe I just need to contact Microsoft directly.
    Thanks!