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Learn Unix/Linux

adminmichael
Does anyone have suggestions on the fastest and easiest way to learn Linux/Unix on your own? Ive been wanting to take time to learn it as it seems like something fun to get to know how it works inside and out.

Also what Uniux/Linux Operating System would be the best to learn that would give me a feel for most unix or linux platform.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Deadly Ernest
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play with it while studying the books. I recommend Zorin OS Linux to people simply because they do NOT have to do anything under the hood unless they want to, and even then most can be done through the GUI. If you want to get down and dirty, then I suppose Free BSD and SuSe may still be the best for that stuff.

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adminmichael
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Hahahaha yeah forget that! Started the download and i tell you what that getting now where... I'm going to go with Linux mint and FreeBSD as i know those will be way faster. Yes Zorin Linux looks sweet but they seriously need to get more download servers up and running or a faster way for people to download that copy.

Thanks again!

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dldorrance
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My first choice would be Linux Mint before Zorin OS. Both have good graphical user interfaces with similarities to Windows GUI. However, Zorin OS is a very slow download (about 5 hours) as it is torrent only and apparently there are very few seeders. Mint is a fast download either by torrent or direct, has, in my opinion, a more complete GUI and has a large user base with lots of online help.

This is the second try at posting this reply.

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adminmichael
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Ok, ill give both a try as virtual images, my goal is to hopefully learn linux enough to be able to build a linux/unix network ground up including servers without gui's. Thanks you for both of your help.

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Deadly Ernest
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I wonder what server you're downloading from as my download here in Australia was less than an hour. Don't know how long as I set it just before I went out for almost an hour and it was done when i got back.

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dldorrance
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Deadly Earnest. The USA website download time is listed as 5 hours; the Australian download site is listed as 1 hour. Maybe I should have used the Australian site?

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ahanse
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then may I suggest you learn networking in the first instance because playing with computers will only get you so far...

also the knowledge will help you understand a broader area than just Linux.

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r_widell
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Eric S. Raymond has published what I consider to be a good "starter document" at:
http://www.tldp. org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html
(remove the extraneous space before org). It was initially published in 1998 and updated in 2010 and provides an overview of what happens "under the hood" on any computer. It also provides a background on disk partitions (necessary to understanding file systems such as ext[234], btrfs, jfs, etc.), users, groups, permissions and a number of other concepts fundamental and common to all unix-like variations.

It also provides a VERY glossy overview of TCP/IP and DNS (but doesn't talk about DHCP) that's critical to understanding anything else that happens over the internet or other networked environment.

I tend to be biased against Debian and derivatives because they don't do runlevels properly, IMHO. They shove everything into runlevel 2 and consequently subvert what can be an important diagnostic/maintenance tool. Which is too bad, because I really do prefer the APT package management system over RPM and others.

My personal preference for Linux distros happens to be openSUSE, but whatever distro you choose, be sure to install all of the basic How-To docs. It's nice to have access to these docs even if you're running off-line.

I tend to prefer the KDE desktop for new users simply because I think the the help system is better. Moreover, the man:/ and info:/ protocols in Konqueror allow me to have multiple pages open simultaneously so I can jump between them.

In any event there's a lot of data to parse, and you're going to have questions. When you do, go to the appropriate forum for whichever distro you choose and ask in the following manner (as you did in this forum):

1) describe what you're trying to accomplish
2) describe what you've tried so far and what the expected vs. actual results are.
3) ask what to change to achieve the expected results
4) ask if there's a better or more effective way to achieve the goal in step 1
5) ask where to find the appropriate docs to (hopefully) answer subsequent questions.

There are many more resources available today than there were when I first started perusing the hard-copy man pages and user guides of System III Unix some 30-odd years ago so I have little doubt that with diligence and persistence you will achieve your goal and have a lot of fun. Good Luck.

ron