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MAKING AN IMAGE BOOTABLE FROM AN EXTERNAL USB HARD DRIVE

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MAKING AN IMAGE BOOTABLE FROM AN EXTERNAL USB HARD DRIVE

Kavella
My image is 6-8GB in size. So using a thumb drive as discussed in previous threads isn?t a possibility for me. still I was hoping to be able to create an image, and no longer burn 50 DVD's every time a new IAVA came out. I use GHOST 10.0 to create an image, then burn that image to my external Hard drive, then burn that image to multiple DVD's making them bootable. I use GHOST because I have to use SYSPREP.



I know I can load an image from my external Hard drive, sense I test the image that way before creating the DVD's. But in order to do that I first must insert the Norton GHOST 10.0 disk, then point to the image file stored on my removable media.



How can I make the image bootable directly from the Hard Drive, with very little user interface. Also if I can do that, and make it work on different computers, is there a way to lock the Hard Drive down, so that it can be used for anything else except to deploy the image stored on it.



I would really like to get away from DVD's, they aren?t reliable, one scratch and the image is useless, and they really aren?t cost effective. The initial investment in External Hard drives, would be costly, but they should last for years to come.



Any assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
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    Chris910

    1. configure the bios to boot from the USB HD.
    2. format the USB device using Fat32 (2GB/partition so you may have to span your image across partitions)
    3. install the HD to a Running Win98 Workstation
    4. Run SYS on the USB HD to load the boot files.
    5. edit your autoexec.bat and config.sys files as needed. The Drive referenced will be C: Copy your image to the drive.


    Notes:
    -When you boot the machine to be imaged from the USB HD the BIOS will Substitute the USB HD for Drive 0 this is different from how a USB CDROM or thumb drive would boot. (Dell's, and ultima's work this way, to accomodate DOS/Win98's requirement that C:\ be the first Drive, other bios may vary)
    -When creating your ghost command line be very careful of which drive you are referencing as the source and destination. in ghost 7.5 it was difficult to distinguish which was which.

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    Kavella

    install the HD to a Running Win98 Workstation
    why?
    Run SYS on the USB HD to load the boot files.
    please clarify, exactly what that means?
    When creating your ghost command line be very careful of which drive you are referencing as the source and destination. in ghost 7.5 it was difficult to distinguish which was which.
    How would I create a ghost command line, and why would I need to?
    If I edit my autoexec bat, and config, basically instead of making a DVD bootable I would essentially just be pointing to the name of the ghost image correct, or did I miss something entirely?
    IS there anyway to lock down the USB hardrive, where it will still boot and restore the image, but I could password protect it so that it could not be altered, or saved to ect?

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    Chris910

    install the HD to a Running Win98 Workstation why?
    A. This was the easiest way that I could figure out to make the drive bootable with a version of DOS that functioned with Ghost 7.5. The version of dos Shipped with XP/ME would not function properly out of the box with ghost 7.5 and the machine I was imaging. There are other ways to do this.

    Run SYS on the USB HD to load the boot files. please clarify, exactly what that means?
    A. SYS is the DOS command for loading the Boot/system files the proper locations on the Hard Drive. (A simple copy will not work)

    How would I create a ghost command line, and why would I need to?
    A. The command line information is in the Documentation. This is how you automate the installation using a DOS command line in a batch file.

    If I edit my autoexec bat, and config, basically instead of making a DVD bootable..
    A. Drive mappings will be different for a bootable DVD and for the USB HD. You will not be able to just copy the script created by the Boot wizard for a bootable DVD. More Likely you will use the Script created for a bootable Floppy and modify the paths etc for use with the HD.

    IS there anyway to lock down the USB hardrive.
    A. I am unaware of one. However if after you had everything working you where to take a ghost image of the USB drive and burn it to DVD you could restore the HD at will.

    Summary: This task is not for faint at heart. Look at the boot floppies for network instals for examples of how to create the autoexec.bat and config.sys files as well as which additional files to copy to the disk. I would share copies of the batch files I wrote but they are at another site and I no longer have easy access to them. ~~Chris S.

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    Sue T

    I have used 3 different versions of Ghost over the years and all of them gave me an option to make the image bootable. I don't have version 10 but I can't believe they would have done away with that. I did a quick Google and found lots using the search words GHOST MAKE BOOTABLE. First one on the page was Symantec at this location, http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/pfdocs/2000030611414425?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=1 I did not realize that Sys Prep was going to lock me into using Ghost, I'm going to have to look into that because that could be a problem.

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    Chris910

    1. configure the bios to boot from the USB HD.
    2. format the USB device using Fat32 (2GB/partition so you may have to span your image across partitions)
    3. install the HD to a Running Win98 Workstation
    4. Run SYS on the USB HD to load the boot files.
    5. edit your autoexec.bat and config.sys files as needed. The Drive referenced will be C: Copy your image to the drive.


    Notes:
    -When you boot the machine to be imaged from the USB HD the BIOS will Substitute the USB HD for Drive 0 this is different from how a USB CDROM or thumb drive would boot. (Dell's, and ultima's work this way, to accomodate DOS/Win98's requirement that C:\ be the first Drive, other bios may vary)
    -When creating your ghost command line be very careful of which drive you are referencing as the source and destination. in ghost 7.5 it was difficult to distinguish which was which.

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    Kavella

    install the HD to a Running Win98 Workstation
    why?
    Run SYS on the USB HD to load the boot files.
    please clarify, exactly what that means?
    When creating your ghost command line be very careful of which drive you are referencing as the source and destination. in ghost 7.5 it was difficult to distinguish which was which.
    How would I create a ghost command line, and why would I need to?
    If I edit my autoexec bat, and config, basically instead of making a DVD bootable I would essentially just be pointing to the name of the ghost image correct, or did I miss something entirely?
    IS there anyway to lock down the USB hardrive, where it will still boot and restore the image, but I could password protect it so that it could not be altered, or saved to ect?

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    Chris910

    install the HD to a Running Win98 Workstation why?
    A. This was the easiest way that I could figure out to make the drive bootable with a version of DOS that functioned with Ghost 7.5. The version of dos Shipped with XP/ME would not function properly out of the box with ghost 7.5 and the machine I was imaging. There are other ways to do this.

    Run SYS on the USB HD to load the boot files. please clarify, exactly what that means?
    A. SYS is the DOS command for loading the Boot/system files the proper locations on the Hard Drive. (A simple copy will not work)

    How would I create a ghost command line, and why would I need to?
    A. The command line information is in the Documentation. This is how you automate the installation using a DOS command line in a batch file.

    If I edit my autoexec bat, and config, basically instead of making a DVD bootable..
    A. Drive mappings will be different for a bootable DVD and for the USB HD. You will not be able to just copy the script created by the Boot wizard for a bootable DVD. More Likely you will use the Script created for a bootable Floppy and modify the paths etc for use with the HD.

    IS there anyway to lock down the USB hardrive.
    A. I am unaware of one. However if after you had everything working you where to take a ghost image of the USB drive and burn it to DVD you could restore the HD at will.

    Summary: This task is not for faint at heart. Look at the boot floppies for network instals for examples of how to create the autoexec.bat and config.sys files as well as which additional files to copy to the disk. I would share copies of the batch files I wrote but they are at another site and I no longer have easy access to them. ~~Chris S.

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    Sue T

    I have used 3 different versions of Ghost over the years and all of them gave me an option to make the image bootable. I don't have version 10 but I can't believe they would have done away with that. I did a quick Google and found lots using the search words GHOST MAKE BOOTABLE. First one on the page was Symantec at this location, http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/pfdocs/2000030611414425?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=1 I did not realize that Sys Prep was going to lock me into using Ghost, I'm going to have to look into that because that could be a problem.