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monitor want turn on?

runningbear682006
well i have been on here for over three weeks and still dont on why my monitor want turn on,most of every body says it the graphic's card/on board,so i installed four new video cards,and still my monitor will not turn on,i have tryed other monitors,i reformatted hard drive,that's it,computer was working befor that,runing slow but it worked,but now it just will not turn the monitor on,i have aother computer that is that same,so i checked the ram,the hard drive,the power box,so some one please help me,why want the monitor turn on,computer turns on but monitor will not?
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    ashij

    Hi! runningbear,

    You probably have checked this, but have you checked if the power cable for the monitor is working? ALso check the signal cable, sometimes, one or two bent pins might cause this problem. I guess, you have already tried hooking up to a different computer, so that rules outany problem with the computer itself. Hope this helps.

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    runningbear682006

    thanks for your reply ashij,yes i have checked the monitor with my computer it work's fine.i dont understand what happened,all i did was reformatted the hard drive and reinstalled win xp home,and the hard drive works on my computer ,boots up just fine,it has to be something wrong with the motherboard i think.because i have been to this girls house befor cause she had problems with this computer befor,the first thing i seen was that the computer wasnt reading the ram right,its a 256ram and it only showed 194 when you click on my computer and go to properties it shows the ram installed,i put the ddr in my computer in my computer and it showed a 256,strange.but like i said the monitor is good.i even hook her computer to my monitor still the monitor want turn on.thank you,any other idea's?

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    OldER Mycroft

    194MB + 62MB = 256MB.

    What you are seeing in the RAM reading, is what is left after the on-board video has taken its share.

    Usually on-board video can take UP TO a certain amount (but it has to leave enough for the OS). The upper limit could be anything up to 128MB but that wouldn't leave enough for the Windows system. Also while you are reading the RAM within Windows, the system is not actually DOING any graphically intense work, so chances are the video has only stolen 62MB (as opposed to 64MB).

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    OldER Mycroft

    Using the monitor's own on-screen menu display you will find 2 inputs: Analog + Digital.

    Depending on which output you are using from the graphics card (VGA or HDMI) - you might need to alter the input on the monitor or the on-screen menu.

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    runningbear682006

    thank you for your reply older mycroft,i am useing vga,but,i can not ajust anything because the monitor will not turn on when i push the power button on the computer,the monitor works fine on other computers,the computer was working fine,then i formatted the hard drive and now it will not work the monitor,all monitors will click on as soon as the computer starts booting up,but thats my problem,when i push the power button the computer turns on but the monitor never does,no matter how long i leave the computer on,i still see nothing on my monitor.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Why are you running the AC Mains power for the monitor through the power conduit for the PC ?

    Try running the monitor AC Mains straight to a power outlet on its own. - The power throughput from the PC may NOT be working.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Some throughputs have rocker switches that simply "GO" - the Single Pole Single Throw still 'rocks' but doesn't make or break any contact anymore.

    I'd be interested to know what sort of PC this actually is.

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    runningbear682006

    Compaq Presario sr1303wm AMD Sempron s/n# cnh45105j3,i have the monitors power cord pluged to an outlet by its self,computer is pluged into a surge protector.ok explain rockers switches?

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    OldER Mycroft

    In an earlier post you said 2 things:

    #1 - "i can not ajust anything because the monitor will not turn on when i push the power button on the computer"

    #2 - "all monitors will click on as soon as the computer starts booting up,but thats my problem,when i push the power button the computer turns on but the monitor never does"

    That was when I inquired why the monitor was getting its power from the computer and not from its own AC Mains source.

    If the monitor is now plugged into its own power source (NOT via the PC), can you now power-up the monitor and access its on-screen menu?

    The rocker (On/Off) switch is located at the rear of a PC, right beside the socket where the AC Mains cord is plugged in. If the PC also has a further power socket for plugging the monitor power lead into (so that the monitor powers on when the PC does) - BOTH power sockets often have their OWN rocker switches. Clearly if the monitor power rocker was switched to Off, then the monitor has no chance of powering-up when you press the front mounted power switch for the PC.

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    DMambo

    Windows often disables an on-board port if there's another found. If you have a separate PCI or AGP video card, be sure the monitor is connected to that.

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    runningbear682006

    The on-board wasn't working before i tried the pci cards,and it want even pick up the pci cards.i thought the on-board might be bad thats why i installed a pci,but still didn't work.

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    DMambo

    Boot to safe mode.

    Do you get any video output during the POST?

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    runningbear682006

    No video output during the POST, i can get the monitor to turn on.it want show anything on the monitor,can not see the boot screen.

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    runningbear682006

    OK,im with you now,this computer has no rocker switch,no off or on switch on the back of computer,i got you,sorry to confuse you.ok keeping straight,the computer has its own power cord,and so does the monitor,both are plugged to separate outlets.its a 2005 compaq presario desktop sr1303wm

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    OH Smeg

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?product=447312&lc=en&cc=au&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=au

    Product Specifications

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00280659&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=au&product=447312&lang=en

    Trouble Shooting

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph05529&tmp_task=solveCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=au&lang=en&product=447312

    This may be interesting however.

    Related support
    Updating the BIOS of the HP or Compaq PC may correct video issues. For more information about how to update the BIOS of your HP or Compaq PC refer to the HP support document, Updating the BIOS


    But here I think you'll find that the HDD stores a lot more than just the OS. And as this is now deleted or otherwise gone you are going to have to rebuild the HDD to HP requirements before this will work again.

    HP Consumer Support Forums on this Model

    http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/?category.id=DesktopPC&lang=en&cc=au

    Bios Updates

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadInst?swfsequence=1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=au&lang=en&softwareitem=pv-31037-2&os=228&product=447312

    Bios Update Destructions

    Download only ?
    Installation Instructions
    1. Download the update.
    2. Double-click the icon for the update downloaded in Step 1, and then click NEXT.
    3. Select I accept the terms in the license agreement, and then click NEXT to proceed with the installation.
    4. If an Overwrite Protection message appears, click YES TO ALL.
    5. Click OK at the Windows Based BIOS Update window.
    6. Click YES at the next Windows Based BIOS Update window, and then wait for the update to complete.
    7. At the Windows Based BIOS Update window, click YES to restart your PC.
    8. If you see the following message during the restart of your PC, continue with the remaining steps; otherwise you are done with the update.

    Default BIOS settings have been loaded due to BIOS update or checksum issue. Press to enter Setup. Otherwise, allow the PC to continue.

    9. Press and hold F1 for a few seconds to open the BIOS Setup.
    10. Press F5, use the Left and Right arrow keys to choose YES, and then press Enter to load the BIOS defaults.
    11. Press F10, use the Left and Right arrow keys to choose YES, and then press Enter to exit the BIOS Setup and save the changes.
    12. Press Enter to confirm the save.
    13. If you see a System Settings Change message prompting you to restart your PC, click YES to restart the PC again.


    Col

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    OldER Mycroft

    http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-1035-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=319090&messageID=3181400


    WHICH PC did you install XP onto the HDD from?

    It is most unusual for an installation of XP to boot when the HDD is removed and fitted to another different PC.

    So, when you reformatted and reinstalled XP onto this system, you must have had video while the installation was taking place - so when did the video fail ??

    Did the XP install manage to perform it's standard re-boot? Did the video continue after the re-boot?

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    runningbear682006

    ok,i took the hdd out and used my compaq to reformatt,ok is this whats wrong,i used aother computer to install winxp on the hard drive and it has installed drivers for my chip and not hers,i have the all most the same computer,after installing windows i but the hdd back in her computer and the monitor want work,but wheni but the hdd back in mine it works fine,monitor turns on.

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    patb071

    Even though you should still be seeing video for the bios. What happens if you unplug ram, all drives, all cards, plug monitor in built video? You should get beeps. then do you see anything?

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    PoppaTab

    Hello,
    The hard drive you are installing windows on has to be in the computer that will use it to start with. That said; if you have an image to use across many such as OEM license it should still be on the computer that will use it. Windows will use the motherboard or more to reference it's licensing. You should try booting into the BIOS which should display the basics of the computer. If her video still does not work; something is wrong. Best thing to do is attempt to install windows again with the hard drive in the correct computer.

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    runningbear682006

    PoppaTab..... I have done every thing every one has said to do,down to the letter,i but the hdd back in her computer after using a boot and nuke,i have did every thing,the computer will not turn the monitor on,i wiped the hdd clean and hooked it back to hers and still i can not get the monitor to turn on,long enough to boot to BIOS,=.But i would like to thank EVERY BODY for trying to help. runningbear and littlewhitedove.

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    OH Smeg

    Is that the BIOS is stored on the Actual HDD so when you wiped it you wiped the BIOS from the System.

    You'll need to rebuild the HDD for this HP System as per the Instruction Manual that I supplied a Link to elsewhere.

    Col

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    PoppaTab

    I didn't even think about the HP machine, I was thinking typical situation.

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    OldER Mycroft

    You oaf !!

    "..i reformatted hard drive,that's it,computer was working befor that,runing slow but it worked,but now it just will not turn the monitor on"

    That's NOT it - is it ??

    Why on earth did you not reformat and reinstall in situ ??

    You could've saved everyone a lot of time had you been honest from the outset instead of bemoaning some clandestine monitor problem, sending us all off in different guessing directions.

    Format this HDD in your machine, preferably using Darik's Boot & Nuke:

    http://www.dban.org/

    This will completely WIPE the HDD, removing everything that is currently on it, including ALL trace of your bungled install.

    Return the HDD to the original PC and boot with the XP install disc already in the disc tray.

    Once it's up and running guess what you can then do ?

    You can remove the properly formatted/installed HDD, put it into your PC and re-enact this whole sad story. Maybe doing it that way, it might have dawned on you a little quicker just what you'd done.

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    patb071

    If you think that any of the posts that have been made by all TR Members, have solved or contributed to solving the problem, please Mark them as Helpful so that others may benefit from the outcome.

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    OH Smeg

    While not common some systems had their BIOS Loaded onto the HDD and if that is removed the system will not start to do anything.

    So what is the Hardware Involved here on the system not working?

    Col

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    ashij

    Hi! runningbear,

    You probably have checked this, but have you checked if the power cable for the monitor is working? ALso check the signal cable, sometimes, one or two bent pins might cause this problem. I guess, you have already tried hooking up to a different computer, so that rules outany problem with the computer itself. Hope this helps.

    A

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    runningbear682006

    thanks for your reply ashij,yes i have checked the monitor with my computer it work's fine.i dont understand what happened,all i did was reformatted the hard drive and reinstalled win xp home,and the hard drive works on my computer ,boots up just fine,it has to be something wrong with the motherboard i think.because i have been to this girls house befor cause she had problems with this computer befor,the first thing i seen was that the computer wasnt reading the ram right,its a 256ram and it only showed 194 when you click on my computer and go to properties it shows the ram installed,i put the ddr in my computer in my computer and it showed a 256,strange.but like i said the monitor is good.i even hook her computer to my monitor still the monitor want turn on.thank you,any other idea's?

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    OldER Mycroft

    194MB + 62MB = 256MB.

    What you are seeing in the RAM reading, is what is left after the on-board video has taken its share.

    Usually on-board video can take UP TO a certain amount (but it has to leave enough for the OS). The upper limit could be anything up to 128MB but that wouldn't leave enough for the Windows system. Also while you are reading the RAM within Windows, the system is not actually DOING any graphically intense work, so chances are the video has only stolen 62MB (as opposed to 64MB).

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    OldER Mycroft

    Using the monitor's own on-screen menu display you will find 2 inputs: Analog + Digital.

    Depending on which output you are using from the graphics card (VGA or HDMI) - you might need to alter the input on the monitor or the on-screen menu.

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    runningbear682006

    thank you for your reply older mycroft,i am useing vga,but,i can not ajust anything because the monitor will not turn on when i push the power button on the computer,the monitor works fine on other computers,the computer was working fine,then i formatted the hard drive and now it will not work the monitor,all monitors will click on as soon as the computer starts booting up,but thats my problem,when i push the power button the computer turns on but the monitor never does,no matter how long i leave the computer on,i still see nothing on my monitor.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Why are you running the AC Mains power for the monitor through the power conduit for the PC ?

    Try running the monitor AC Mains straight to a power outlet on its own. - The power throughput from the PC may NOT be working.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Some throughputs have rocker switches that simply "GO" - the Single Pole Single Throw still 'rocks' but doesn't make or break any contact anymore.

    I'd be interested to know what sort of PC this actually is.

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    runningbear682006

    Compaq Presario sr1303wm AMD Sempron s/n# cnh45105j3,i have the monitors power cord pluged to an outlet by its self,computer is pluged into a surge protector.ok explain rockers switches?

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    OldER Mycroft

    In an earlier post you said 2 things:

    #1 - "i can not ajust anything because the monitor will not turn on when i push the power button on the computer"

    #2 - "all monitors will click on as soon as the computer starts booting up,but thats my problem,when i push the power button the computer turns on but the monitor never does"

    That was when I inquired why the monitor was getting its power from the computer and not from its own AC Mains source.

    If the monitor is now plugged into its own power source (NOT via the PC), can you now power-up the monitor and access its on-screen menu?

    The rocker (On/Off) switch is located at the rear of a PC, right beside the socket where the AC Mains cord is plugged in. If the PC also has a further power socket for plugging the monitor power lead into (so that the monitor powers on when the PC does) - BOTH power sockets often have their OWN rocker switches. Clearly if the monitor power rocker was switched to Off, then the monitor has no chance of powering-up when you press the front mounted power switch for the PC.

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    DMambo

    Windows often disables an on-board port if there's another found. If you have a separate PCI or AGP video card, be sure the monitor is connected to that.

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    runningbear682006

    The on-board wasn't working before i tried the pci cards,and it want even pick up the pci cards.i thought the on-board might be bad thats why i installed a pci,but still didn't work.

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    DMambo

    Boot to safe mode.

    Do you get any video output during the POST?

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    runningbear682006

    No video output during the POST, i can get the monitor to turn on.it want show anything on the monitor,can not see the boot screen.

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    runningbear682006

    OK,im with you now,this computer has no rocker switch,no off or on switch on the back of computer,i got you,sorry to confuse you.ok keeping straight,the computer has its own power cord,and so does the monitor,both are plugged to separate outlets.its a 2005 compaq presario desktop sr1303wm

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    OH Smeg

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/manualCategory?product=447312&lc=en&cc=au&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=au

    Product Specifications

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00280659&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=au&product=447312&lang=en

    Trouble Shooting

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph05529&tmp_task=solveCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=au&lang=en&product=447312

    This may be interesting however.

    Related support
    Updating the BIOS of the HP or Compaq PC may correct video issues. For more information about how to update the BIOS of your HP or Compaq PC refer to the HP support document, Updating the BIOS


    But here I think you'll find that the HDD stores a lot more than just the OS. And as this is now deleted or otherwise gone you are going to have to rebuild the HDD to HP requirements before this will work again.

    HP Consumer Support Forums on this Model

    http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/?category.id=DesktopPC&lang=en&cc=au

    Bios Updates

    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadInst?swfsequence=1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=au&lang=en&softwareitem=pv-31037-2&os=228&product=447312

    Bios Update Destructions

    Download only ?
    Installation Instructions
    1. Download the update.
    2. Double-click the icon for the update downloaded in Step 1, and then click NEXT.
    3. Select I accept the terms in the license agreement, and then click NEXT to proceed with the installation.
    4. If an Overwrite Protection message appears, click YES TO ALL.
    5. Click OK at the Windows Based BIOS Update window.
    6. Click YES at the next Windows Based BIOS Update window, and then wait for the update to complete.
    7. At the Windows Based BIOS Update window, click YES to restart your PC.
    8. If you see the following message during the restart of your PC, continue with the remaining steps; otherwise you are done with the update.

    Default BIOS settings have been loaded due to BIOS update or checksum issue. Press to enter Setup. Otherwise, allow the PC to continue.

    9. Press and hold F1 for a few seconds to open the BIOS Setup.
    10. Press F5, use the Left and Right arrow keys to choose YES, and then press Enter to load the BIOS defaults.
    11. Press F10, use the Left and Right arrow keys to choose YES, and then press Enter to exit the BIOS Setup and save the changes.
    12. Press Enter to confirm the save.
    13. If you see a System Settings Change message prompting you to restart your PC, click YES to restart the PC again.


    Col

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    OldER Mycroft

    http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-1035-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=319090&messageID=3181400


    WHICH PC did you install XP onto the HDD from?

    It is most unusual for an installation of XP to boot when the HDD is removed and fitted to another different PC.

    So, when you reformatted and reinstalled XP onto this system, you must have had video while the installation was taking place - so when did the video fail ??

    Did the XP install manage to perform it's standard re-boot? Did the video continue after the re-boot?

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    runningbear682006

    ok,i took the hdd out and used my compaq to reformatt,ok is this whats wrong,i used aother computer to install winxp on the hard drive and it has installed drivers for my chip and not hers,i have the all most the same computer,after installing windows i but the hdd back in her computer and the monitor want work,but wheni but the hdd back in mine it works fine,monitor turns on.

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    patb071

    Even though you should still be seeing video for the bios. What happens if you unplug ram, all drives, all cards, plug monitor in built video? You should get beeps. then do you see anything?

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    PoppaTab

    Hello,
    The hard drive you are installing windows on has to be in the computer that will use it to start with. That said; if you have an image to use across many such as OEM license it should still be on the computer that will use it. Windows will use the motherboard or more to reference it's licensing. You should try booting into the BIOS which should display the basics of the computer. If her video still does not work; something is wrong. Best thing to do is attempt to install windows again with the hard drive in the correct computer.

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    runningbear682006

    PoppaTab..... I have done every thing every one has said to do,down to the letter,i but the hdd back in her computer after using a boot and nuke,i have did every thing,the computer will not turn the monitor on,i wiped the hdd clean and hooked it back to hers and still i can not get the monitor to turn on,long enough to boot to BIOS,=.But i would like to thank EVERY BODY for trying to help. runningbear and littlewhitedove.

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    OH Smeg

    Is that the BIOS is stored on the Actual HDD so when you wiped it you wiped the BIOS from the System.

    You'll need to rebuild the HDD for this HP System as per the Instruction Manual that I supplied a Link to elsewhere.

    Col

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    PoppaTab

    I didn't even think about the HP machine, I was thinking typical situation.

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    OldER Mycroft

    You oaf !!

    "..i reformatted hard drive,that's it,computer was working befor that,runing slow but it worked,but now it just will not turn the monitor on"

    That's NOT it - is it ??

    Why on earth did you not reformat and reinstall in situ ??

    You could've saved everyone a lot of time had you been honest from the outset instead of bemoaning some clandestine monitor problem, sending us all off in different guessing directions.

    Format this HDD in your machine, preferably using Darik's Boot & Nuke:

    http://www.dban.org/

    This will completely WIPE the HDD, removing everything that is currently on it, including ALL trace of your bungled install.

    Return the HDD to the original PC and boot with the XP install disc already in the disc tray.

    Once it's up and running guess what you can then do ?

    You can remove the properly formatted/installed HDD, put it into your PC and re-enact this whole sad story. Maybe doing it that way, it might have dawned on you a little quicker just what you'd done.

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    patb071

    If you think that any of the posts that have been made by all TR Members, have solved or contributed to solving the problem, please Mark them as Helpful so that others may benefit from the outcome.

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    OH Smeg

    While not common some systems had their BIOS Loaded onto the HDD and if that is removed the system will not start to do anything.

    So what is the Hardware Involved here on the system not working?

    Col