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My Windows Vista PC takes too long to startup, what's wrong??

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My Windows Vista PC takes too long to startup, what's wrong??

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I have a Dell Dimenstion E520 with Vista Premium (32-bit). It's only 4 months old and had no problems until recently. From the time I power up the PC to the time the log on screen comes up (user name/password), it always takes about 1 minute and a half. I notice the part that takes the longest is after the Operating system loads up (Windows Vista logo) and from there it's a pure black screen for what seems like forever...what could be causing this and how can I fix it?
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    BALTHOR

    You could try taking the darned thing back to the computer store or try installing XP.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    load XP

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    rkuhn

    Because you're acting like one.

    Not everyone hates Vista and should keep XP.

    I'd actually rather change your name to ostrich as you obviously have your head in the sand (or somewhere else that I'm too polite to say).

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    NaughtyMonkey

    on my laptop. It works great. But my desktop ran like crap. I tried cutting off everything to make it run better and killed all unnecessary startup items. It still takes forever to boot. If he wants his computer to boot faster than what he said it takes, I don't believe it can be done with Vista. On a fresh install with only needed items starting up, it will still take at least a minute to get going.

    I never said Vista was bad, I just said if he wanted a fast boot he would have to use XP. You may think my head is in the sand, but yours is up your a$$.

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    rkuhn

    Thanks for the explanation.

    But any time your comment is simply "load XP" without any further comments or explanation, you're acting like a moron.

    Simple as that.

    In a Help Forum, people come here for help. Not personal agendas.

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    rkuhn

    And forgive me if there isn't an equivalent as I don't use Vista just yet.

    Run Msconfig and disable unnecessary startup items.

    Run Services.msc and shutdown unnecessary services.

    Scan for viruses, spyware, malware, etc.

    Startup in Safe Mode. If Safe Mode starts up fine then it is more than likely a driver issue.

    Run MemTest to test RAM.

    Check your Event Logs to see if there is an entry for anything unusual.

    Lastly, is this a networked PC? I have seen improperly configured PC's that were setup in a domain using their home router as the DNS server that then forwarded the request to the ISP. It takes forever for that process to fail out and load the local profile and hence the desktop.

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    OldER Mycroft

    I've only been witness to one Vista laptop -repeatedly- every time my mate brings it round because it keeps slowing down.

    I've noticed that, heavily dependent on what the system was last doing prior to shutdown, the next startup can be affected.

    By default, and rather difficult to disable, Vista runs with file indexing from the word go.

    Do you notice hectic HDD activity when there is a slow startup? It is most likely the file indexing system in overdrive.

    But I do concur with the above checks.

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    rmwcs

    I would check for viruses/spyware and other web nasties. I've had a couple of Dells act this way before a major hardware failure..power supply, motherboard, or the HDD. Sorry to sound dismal

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    hardik118

    Simply completely remove Vista...
    format the system
    and install a new copy of XP

    everything will be fine...

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    rkuhn

    Enough said.

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    hema

    Please use the Performance Monitoring tool to find out where exactly is the machine running slowly. You will find this option "Reliability And Performance Monitor" on the Administrative Tools menu in Control Panel. Please also switch off the Aero interface if you have the basic graphics card.

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    OldER Mycroft

    You'd also do well to disable the sidebar.

    It's usually just composed of unnecessary bells and whistles anyway. Really just eye candy.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    I will explain it better. I run Vista on a laptop with a T5600 CPU and 2 GB of RAM. With everything that is not necessary off, no Aero, etc...(see above recommendations from others), it still takes about 70 seconds to get booted up and going. I can deal with this since I usually cut it on and then get a cup of coffee.

    I installed it on my desktop with 3.2 dual core and 4 GB RAM, it still took just as long to boot as the laptop with the same considerations. This is Vista, it has a lot to load even with the bare minimum. You will have to get use to it, because I don't believe it is possible to get under a minute. It is a good product when it is installed on compatible hardware and some features are great (I am particularly fond of the new photo album viewer, too bad they don't have a comparable add on for XP), but it takes a minute to get going. If you have to have fast boot times, you will not be able to do it with Vista.

    There is nothing wrong with your machine. It just has the WOW factor. Wow it takes a long time to boot. (Just a joke, it's a good product, just heavy).

    By the way Rickk, I have installed Vista on around 20 machines for testing and personal use. Since you have never used it, how can you be the judge if it is capable of what the OP asked.

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    rkuhn

    I was just commenting on your two word reply "load XP".

    I would hope as a professional, you offer more thorough advice.

    In a Help Forum such as this, I believe people deserve an explanation. That you have now given and I take my words back.

    I have used Vista just not extensively. But I also believe that if you can't get Vista going well on a 3.2 Ghz dual core processor with 4 GB of RAM, you have a problem.

    I got Vista running nicely on my home PC which is only a 2.8 Ghz single core processor only 1.5 GB of RAM.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    it's just getting it going that takes a while. Once it is going, I like it, except the few apps that will not run on it.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    load XP

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    rkuhn

    And forgive me if there isn't an equivalent as I don't use Vista just yet.

    Run Msconfig and disable unnecessary startup items.

    Run Services.msc and shutdown unnecessary services.

    Scan for viruses, spyware, malware, etc.

    Startup in Safe Mode. If Safe Mode starts up fine then it is more than likely a driver issue.

    Run MemTest to test RAM.

    Check your Event Logs to see if there is an entry for anything unusual.

    Lastly, is this a networked PC? I have seen improperly configured PC's that were setup in a domain using their home router as the DNS server that then forwarded the request to the ISP. It takes forever for that process to fail out and load the local profile and hence the desktop.

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    OldER Mycroft

    I've only been witness to one Vista laptop -repeatedly- every time my mate brings it round because it keeps slowing down.

    I've noticed that, heavily dependent on what the system was last doing prior to shutdown, the next startup can be affected.

    By default, and rather difficult to disable, Vista runs with file indexing from the word go.

    Do you notice hectic HDD activity when there is a slow startup? It is most likely the file indexing system in overdrive.

    But I do concur with the above checks.

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    rmwcs

    I would check for viruses/spyware and other web nasties. I've had a couple of Dells act this way before a major hardware failure..power supply, motherboard, or the HDD. Sorry to sound dismal

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    hardik118

    Simply completely remove Vista...
    format the system
    and install a new copy of XP

    everything will be fine...

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    hema

    Please use the Performance Monitoring tool to find out where exactly is the machine running slowly. You will find this option "Reliability And Performance Monitor" on the Administrative Tools menu in Control Panel. Please also switch off the Aero interface if you have the basic graphics card.

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    OldER Mycroft

    You'd also do well to disable the sidebar.

    It's usually just composed of unnecessary bells and whistles anyway. Really just eye candy.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    I will explain it better. I run Vista on a laptop with a T5600 CPU and 2 GB of RAM. With everything that is not necessary off, no Aero, etc...(see above recommendations from others), it still takes about 70 seconds to get booted up and going. I can deal with this since I usually cut it on and then get a cup of coffee.

    I installed it on my desktop with 3.2 dual core and 4 GB RAM, it still took just as long to boot as the laptop with the same considerations. This is Vista, it has a lot to load even with the bare minimum. You will have to get use to it, because I don't believe it is possible to get under a minute. It is a good product when it is installed on compatible hardware and some features are great (I am particularly fond of the new photo album viewer, too bad they don't have a comparable add on for XP), but it takes a minute to get going. If you have to have fast boot times, you will not be able to do it with Vista.

    There is nothing wrong with your machine. It just has the WOW factor. Wow it takes a long time to boot. (Just a joke, it's a good product, just heavy).

    By the way Rickk, I have installed Vista on around 20 machines for testing and personal use. Since you have never used it, how can you be the judge if it is capable of what the OP asked.

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    BALTHOR

    You could try taking the darned thing back to the computer store or try installing XP.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    load XP

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    rkuhn

    Because you're acting like one.

    Not everyone hates Vista and should keep XP.

    I'd actually rather change your name to ostrich as you obviously have your head in the sand (or somewhere else that I'm too polite to say).

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    NaughtyMonkey

    on my laptop. It works great. But my desktop ran like crap. I tried cutting off everything to make it run better and killed all unnecessary startup items. It still takes forever to boot. If he wants his computer to boot faster than what he said it takes, I don't believe it can be done with Vista. On a fresh install with only needed items starting up, it will still take at least a minute to get going.

    I never said Vista was bad, I just said if he wanted a fast boot he would have to use XP. You may think my head is in the sand, but yours is up your a$$.

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    rkuhn

    Thanks for the explanation.

    But any time your comment is simply "load XP" without any further comments or explanation, you're acting like a moron.

    Simple as that.

    In a Help Forum, people come here for help. Not personal agendas.

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    rkuhn

    And forgive me if there isn't an equivalent as I don't use Vista just yet.

    Run Msconfig and disable unnecessary startup items.

    Run Services.msc and shutdown unnecessary services.

    Scan for viruses, spyware, malware, etc.

    Startup in Safe Mode. If Safe Mode starts up fine then it is more than likely a driver issue.

    Run MemTest to test RAM.

    Check your Event Logs to see if there is an entry for anything unusual.

    Lastly, is this a networked PC? I have seen improperly configured PC's that were setup in a domain using their home router as the DNS server that then forwarded the request to the ISP. It takes forever for that process to fail out and load the local profile and hence the desktop.

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    OldER Mycroft

    I've only been witness to one Vista laptop -repeatedly- every time my mate brings it round because it keeps slowing down.

    I've noticed that, heavily dependent on what the system was last doing prior to shutdown, the next startup can be affected.

    By default, and rather difficult to disable, Vista runs with file indexing from the word go.

    Do you notice hectic HDD activity when there is a slow startup? It is most likely the file indexing system in overdrive.

    But I do concur with the above checks.

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    rmwcs

    I would check for viruses/spyware and other web nasties. I've had a couple of Dells act this way before a major hardware failure..power supply, motherboard, or the HDD. Sorry to sound dismal

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    hardik118

    Simply completely remove Vista...
    format the system
    and install a new copy of XP

    everything will be fine...

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    rkuhn

    Enough said.

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    hema

    Please use the Performance Monitoring tool to find out where exactly is the machine running slowly. You will find this option "Reliability And Performance Monitor" on the Administrative Tools menu in Control Panel. Please also switch off the Aero interface if you have the basic graphics card.

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    OldER Mycroft

    You'd also do well to disable the sidebar.

    It's usually just composed of unnecessary bells and whistles anyway. Really just eye candy.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    I will explain it better. I run Vista on a laptop with a T5600 CPU and 2 GB of RAM. With everything that is not necessary off, no Aero, etc...(see above recommendations from others), it still takes about 70 seconds to get booted up and going. I can deal with this since I usually cut it on and then get a cup of coffee.

    I installed it on my desktop with 3.2 dual core and 4 GB RAM, it still took just as long to boot as the laptop with the same considerations. This is Vista, it has a lot to load even with the bare minimum. You will have to get use to it, because I don't believe it is possible to get under a minute. It is a good product when it is installed on compatible hardware and some features are great (I am particularly fond of the new photo album viewer, too bad they don't have a comparable add on for XP), but it takes a minute to get going. If you have to have fast boot times, you will not be able to do it with Vista.

    There is nothing wrong with your machine. It just has the WOW factor. Wow it takes a long time to boot. (Just a joke, it's a good product, just heavy).

    By the way Rickk, I have installed Vista on around 20 machines for testing and personal use. Since you have never used it, how can you be the judge if it is capable of what the OP asked.

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    rkuhn

    I was just commenting on your two word reply "load XP".

    I would hope as a professional, you offer more thorough advice.

    In a Help Forum such as this, I believe people deserve an explanation. That you have now given and I take my words back.

    I have used Vista just not extensively. But I also believe that if you can't get Vista going well on a 3.2 Ghz dual core processor with 4 GB of RAM, you have a problem.

    I got Vista running nicely on my home PC which is only a 2.8 Ghz single core processor only 1.5 GB of RAM.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    it's just getting it going that takes a while. Once it is going, I like it, except the few apps that will not run on it.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    load XP

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    rkuhn

    And forgive me if there isn't an equivalent as I don't use Vista just yet.

    Run Msconfig and disable unnecessary startup items.

    Run Services.msc and shutdown unnecessary services.

    Scan for viruses, spyware, malware, etc.

    Startup in Safe Mode. If Safe Mode starts up fine then it is more than likely a driver issue.

    Run MemTest to test RAM.

    Check your Event Logs to see if there is an entry for anything unusual.

    Lastly, is this a networked PC? I have seen improperly configured PC's that were setup in a domain using their home router as the DNS server that then forwarded the request to the ISP. It takes forever for that process to fail out and load the local profile and hence the desktop.

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    OldER Mycroft

    I've only been witness to one Vista laptop -repeatedly- every time my mate brings it round because it keeps slowing down.

    I've noticed that, heavily dependent on what the system was last doing prior to shutdown, the next startup can be affected.

    By default, and rather difficult to disable, Vista runs with file indexing from the word go.

    Do you notice hectic HDD activity when there is a slow startup? It is most likely the file indexing system in overdrive.

    But I do concur with the above checks.

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    rmwcs

    I would check for viruses/spyware and other web nasties. I've had a couple of Dells act this way before a major hardware failure..power supply, motherboard, or the HDD. Sorry to sound dismal

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    hardik118

    Simply completely remove Vista...
    format the system
    and install a new copy of XP

    everything will be fine...

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    hema

    Please use the Performance Monitoring tool to find out where exactly is the machine running slowly. You will find this option "Reliability And Performance Monitor" on the Administrative Tools menu in Control Panel. Please also switch off the Aero interface if you have the basic graphics card.

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    OldER Mycroft

    You'd also do well to disable the sidebar.

    It's usually just composed of unnecessary bells and whistles anyway. Really just eye candy.

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    NaughtyMonkey

    I will explain it better. I run Vista on a laptop with a T5600 CPU and 2 GB of RAM. With everything that is not necessary off, no Aero, etc...(see above recommendations from others), it still takes about 70 seconds to get booted up and going. I can deal with this since I usually cut it on and then get a cup of coffee.

    I installed it on my desktop with 3.2 dual core and 4 GB RAM, it still took just as long to boot as the laptop with the same considerations. This is Vista, it has a lot to load even with the bare minimum. You will have to get use to it, because I don't believe it is possible to get under a minute. It is a good product when it is installed on compatible hardware and some features are great (I am particularly fond of the new photo album viewer, too bad they don't have a comparable add on for XP), but it takes a minute to get going. If you have to have fast boot times, you will not be able to do it with Vista.

    There is nothing wrong with your machine. It just has the WOW factor. Wow it takes a long time to boot. (Just a joke, it's a good product, just heavy).

    By the way Rickk, I have installed Vista on around 20 machines for testing and personal use. Since you have never used it, how can you be the judge if it is capable of what the OP asked.