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Playing an MMORPG behind a firewall

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Playing an MMORPG behind a firewall

fatsaiko
I have a problom accesing my favourite online game which is Ghost Online (http://go.gameflier.com.my).

I am behind a university firewall, which generally accept only connections from port 80.

I have been using dozens of tunneling softwares to get through it. But somehow it doesnt work on my MMORPGs. I heard by using those we can use bittorent and such, but still, it makes no difference since it doesnt work on my game. All in all, i make a conclusion that it wont work if i resort into playing World of Warcraft or anything else as it doesnt work with the game i am currently trying.

Any suggestions? Like getting a payable proxies that supports CONNECT command from port 80 or what is it wrong with all these? Do i need a faster connection? I think my university is good enough as it transfers files from web at 400 kilobyte per second. Or do i need a faster proxy?

Anything would be great as im exhausted.

Cheers.
Bob.
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    Kjell_Andorsen

    This is a site for IT professionals, not some cracker site for telling you how to illegally circumvent policies put in place by our fellow IT professionals who administer the network at your school.

    If they have placed these restrictions on your connection, they have done so for a reason and we will not help you.

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    fatsaiko

    I'll have to agree with you then. So much for a reason to pull the connection off and get myself another broadband.

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    Sarah E

    Oh have some sympathy for the poor guy - didn't you ever hack around your university's system to play MUD/MUSH/DIKU way back when?

    For those of you who are still looking to hack round your university's system to MUD / MUSH / DIKU - http://www.mosha.net is a nice http to telnet solution. However, I think the kids of today expect the graphics, and the noises, and the explosions and the M and the M and the PORG! Long live the simplicity of LPC-based games.

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    j2will

    With an attitude like yours, I sure hope you are not a teacher or a network administrator.

    As a college professor who taught network courses and the colleges network administrator, I found it irritating that students tried to crack into my network. The network is not their private play-toy. Since the network was a critical function of our college's operations, I would warn them once and point them toward more constructive work. Then, on any subsequent attempts, I would take steps to have them disenrolled and banned from the college.

    Attitudes of permissiveness like yours give students (no matter their age) the idea that rules are there to be broken. It undermines the very nature of our nation since it also leads people to disrespect any and all laws and develop the belief that laws, rules, and regulations are for others to follow and that they do not apply to them. Just ask anyone who has had their credit card numbers hacked or are victims of identity theft what should be done to crackers.

    Instead of a permissive attitude toward hacking, I suggest a more positive and proactive one of pointing these bright but misguided students toward more productive and worthwhile endeavors.

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    zclayton2

    The only thing more useless to me than a person who can't do anything they are asked is the one who won't do anything else. At least this student is thinking about the percieved problem and exploring options. And when pointed in the right direction took the advice.

    And you, from your post I take it you have no outside interests other than work, or supress them to stay on permanent call for job and self justifying busyness. All work and no play will earn you a heart attack in the long run.

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    rstanaford

    "As a college professor who taught network courses and the colleges network administrator, I found it irritating that students tried to crack into my network."

    It sounds, to me, that he's trying to get out, not in.

    "The network is not their private play-toy. Since the network was a critical function of our college's operations, I would warn them once and point them toward more constructive work."

    That's what network segmentation and VLANs are for. A network administrator would be an utter fool to not segregate the network in to an Administration piece and a Student access piece. Each its own VLAN, routed as necessary and easily managed.

    I would like to see in the college's Acceptable Usage Policy where usage of the network is precluded for personal reasons, especially for students who live on campus with network interfaces in their dorms.

    "Instead of a permissive attitude toward hacking, I suggest a more positive and proactive one of pointing these bright but misguided students toward more productive and worthwhile endeavors."

    And you just assume the students are up to all sorts of evil. What if they are good students and want to get online to play a game to **** off steam? For the network to be ratcheted down that tight could as easily be an indication of an inept administrator (who doesn't know any better) as anything else.

    I don't know what has made you so jaded, but the broad brush you painted with here is just as unwelcome as any other inflammatory posting I've seen.

    -Rich
    Sr. Network Engineer

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    fatsaiko

    there there, i know how it feels to be a network admin and gets a dozens of whatsoever threats. i own a dedicated server, exposed to threat because it runs an irc server on it. (it might differ i know but im trying to emphasize feeling here)

    i just moved here in uk to futher my studies. and the university supply me with a connection. what troubles me is the ftp access to my sites, cpanels and such. when it blocks everything, how can i mantain my site?

    the university connection save me my cost of getting a new broadband connection. save me from getting a landline. and my mobile is already painful as far the international calls i made.

    i know my question, at first, sounded like i wanted to play mmorpg and conquer the world (smile) but no. i have other things to manage as well. the game is the first focused aspect because its the only entertainment that i have around before, and its fun.

    im not trying to get in the network. im trying to get out of it. my question is really like

    "how can i connect to my server from this connection (university) to use my own server's connection and play my mmorpg with it."

    not. how can i remove settings in my network firewall to connect to a game. or whatsoever. (again).

    im writing these just to your concern, im sorry if i violate any aspects of your views.

    as of inflammatory posting, someone could just tell me nicely that its not possible to answer that. instead they made judgements and personal insults (it doesnt matter, its internet afterall) to me.

    and whats wrong with the student thing?

    cheers.
    bob.
    a postgraduate teacher (im a student all my life, there is so much to learn :))

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    rstanaford

    I assume the root of your problem is you can't make a direct connection to your MMORPG's server, correct? Do you have a friend who leaves his computer on all the time who might allow you to "borrow" his PC and connection?

    If so, take a look at www.openvpn.org (not .com). It's free and does a couple of things. First, it will allow your friend to serve as a VPN tunnel endpoint. Secondly, it will allow you to tunnel to his PC and use it as a quasi-proxy. The short of it is, his PC will provide you with an IP address and act as a mini-ISP.

    It's all in the documentation.

    In addition, if the university has blocked the typical TCP and UDP ports utilized in the construction of VPN tunnels, the OpenVPN suite can be configured to tunnel through the university's proxy server via SSL.

    I'm not sure how well it will work for your game and you could have latency issues as well, especially if your friend is flooding his connection with other stuff.

    But it's worth a try to **** off steam at the end of a long day.

    Good luck with it,
    -Rich

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    fatsaiko

    thanks. i'll look to it.

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    ranscurt

    Regardless of the truth of the legality issues of your statement I had to point out that it is because of those people that push the boundaries of not only law but of what is commonly accepted as normal that we find ourselves ever improving in technology and every other aspect of being alive in the world today. If it wasn't for those people who wanted something better in their lives the United States would never have been formed. Its people that believe such as yourself that have prevented change because all change is bad in your eyes. I do realize that this is a gross exaggeration on my part and you may not be like this at all. It is just the impression I get on your reply. You may have just been burned in the past on some network issue. I know that working in the field I have done some network hacking to mess with fellow employees in fun and because of the toying around with these things we have discovered ways to protect our system from others that would do it maliciously. That is why I think that we should not stifle the creativeness of others..of course as long as it is truly doing no harm.

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    Kjell_Andorsen

    This is a site for IT professionals, not some cracker site for telling you how to illegally circumvent policies put in place by our fellow IT professionals who administer the network at your school.

    If they have placed these restrictions on your connection, they have done so for a reason and we will not help you.

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    fatsaiko

    I'll have to agree with you then. So much for a reason to pull the connection off and get myself another broadband.

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    Sarah E

    Oh have some sympathy for the poor guy - didn't you ever hack around your university's system to play MUD/MUSH/DIKU way back when?

    For those of you who are still looking to hack round your university's system to MUD / MUSH / DIKU - http://www.mosha.net is a nice http to telnet solution. However, I think the kids of today expect the graphics, and the noises, and the explosions and the M and the M and the PORG! Long live the simplicity of LPC-based games.

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    j2will

    With an attitude like yours, I sure hope you are not a teacher or a network administrator.

    As a college professor who taught network courses and the colleges network administrator, I found it irritating that students tried to crack into my network. The network is not their private play-toy. Since the network was a critical function of our college's operations, I would warn them once and point them toward more constructive work. Then, on any subsequent attempts, I would take steps to have them disenrolled and banned from the college.

    Attitudes of permissiveness like yours give students (no matter their age) the idea that rules are there to be broken. It undermines the very nature of our nation since it also leads people to disrespect any and all laws and develop the belief that laws, rules, and regulations are for others to follow and that they do not apply to them. Just ask anyone who has had their credit card numbers hacked or are victims of identity theft what should be done to crackers.

    Instead of a permissive attitude toward hacking, I suggest a more positive and proactive one of pointing these bright but misguided students toward more productive and worthwhile endeavors.

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    zclayton2

    The only thing more useless to me than a person who can't do anything they are asked is the one who won't do anything else. At least this student is thinking about the percieved problem and exploring options. And when pointed in the right direction took the advice.

    And you, from your post I take it you have no outside interests other than work, or supress them to stay on permanent call for job and self justifying busyness. All work and no play will earn you a heart attack in the long run.

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    rstanaford

    "As a college professor who taught network courses and the colleges network administrator, I found it irritating that students tried to crack into my network."

    It sounds, to me, that he's trying to get out, not in.

    "The network is not their private play-toy. Since the network was a critical function of our college's operations, I would warn them once and point them toward more constructive work."

    That's what network segmentation and VLANs are for. A network administrator would be an utter fool to not segregate the network in to an Administration piece and a Student access piece. Each its own VLAN, routed as necessary and easily managed.

    I would like to see in the college's Acceptable Usage Policy where usage of the network is precluded for personal reasons, especially for students who live on campus with network interfaces in their dorms.

    "Instead of a permissive attitude toward hacking, I suggest a more positive and proactive one of pointing these bright but misguided students toward more productive and worthwhile endeavors."

    And you just assume the students are up to all sorts of evil. What if they are good students and want to get online to play a game to **** off steam? For the network to be ratcheted down that tight could as easily be an indication of an inept administrator (who doesn't know any better) as anything else.

    I don't know what has made you so jaded, but the broad brush you painted with here is just as unwelcome as any other inflammatory posting I've seen.

    -Rich
    Sr. Network Engineer

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    fatsaiko

    there there, i know how it feels to be a network admin and gets a dozens of whatsoever threats. i own a dedicated server, exposed to threat because it runs an irc server on it. (it might differ i know but im trying to emphasize feeling here)

    i just moved here in uk to futher my studies. and the university supply me with a connection. what troubles me is the ftp access to my sites, cpanels and such. when it blocks everything, how can i mantain my site?

    the university connection save me my cost of getting a new broadband connection. save me from getting a landline. and my mobile is already painful as far the international calls i made.

    i know my question, at first, sounded like i wanted to play mmorpg and conquer the world (smile) but no. i have other things to manage as well. the game is the first focused aspect because its the only entertainment that i have around before, and its fun.

    im not trying to get in the network. im trying to get out of it. my question is really like

    "how can i connect to my server from this connection (university) to use my own server's connection and play my mmorpg with it."

    not. how can i remove settings in my network firewall to connect to a game. or whatsoever. (again).

    im writing these just to your concern, im sorry if i violate any aspects of your views.

    as of inflammatory posting, someone could just tell me nicely that its not possible to answer that. instead they made judgements and personal insults (it doesnt matter, its internet afterall) to me.

    and whats wrong with the student thing?

    cheers.
    bob.
    a postgraduate teacher (im a student all my life, there is so much to learn :))

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    rstanaford

    I assume the root of your problem is you can't make a direct connection to your MMORPG's server, correct? Do you have a friend who leaves his computer on all the time who might allow you to "borrow" his PC and connection?

    If so, take a look at www.openvpn.org (not .com). It's free and does a couple of things. First, it will allow your friend to serve as a VPN tunnel endpoint. Secondly, it will allow you to tunnel to his PC and use it as a quasi-proxy. The short of it is, his PC will provide you with an IP address and act as a mini-ISP.

    It's all in the documentation.

    In addition, if the university has blocked the typical TCP and UDP ports utilized in the construction of VPN tunnels, the OpenVPN suite can be configured to tunnel through the university's proxy server via SSL.

    I'm not sure how well it will work for your game and you could have latency issues as well, especially if your friend is flooding his connection with other stuff.

    But it's worth a try to **** off steam at the end of a long day.

    Good luck with it,
    -Rich

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    fatsaiko

    thanks. i'll look to it.

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    ranscurt

    Regardless of the truth of the legality issues of your statement I had to point out that it is because of those people that push the boundaries of not only law but of what is commonly accepted as normal that we find ourselves ever improving in technology and every other aspect of being alive in the world today. If it wasn't for those people who wanted something better in their lives the United States would never have been formed. Its people that believe such as yourself that have prevented change because all change is bad in your eyes. I do realize that this is a gross exaggeration on my part and you may not be like this at all. It is just the impression I get on your reply. You may have just been burned in the past on some network issue. I know that working in the field I have done some network hacking to mess with fellow employees in fun and because of the toying around with these things we have discovered ways to protect our system from others that would do it maliciously. That is why I think that we should not stifle the creativeness of others..of course as long as it is truly doing no harm.