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santeewelding
Moments ago, I saw a cockroach on the wall. It scurried downward, behind the monitor, too late for me to act.

Momentarily, it showed up with antennae twitching above the keyboard. I whacked it with my TR-recommended swatter. Not hard enough, or I missed. Scurried away, it did.

Absentmindedly, while reading some member dismissing us for talking about talking too much, I put the tumbler to my lips for another sip of sherry.

Lo!

It had fallen in. It struggled against my upper lip.

BLECH !

Do we talk about talking too much?
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    seanferd

    but TMI - Too Much Information.

    This does not nest in the realm of either, for me. But, blech, indeed.


    edit: And what of these complaints of too much meta (or meta meta)?

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    santeewelding

    I don't hang with them folks. Don't understand them and don't truck with them, either.

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    seanferd

    of where such dismissal lives in the threads?

    Pah. I probably don't want to know. Silly of me to ask. So very tired of people's experiments in miscommunication, intentional or otherwise, trolling or simply unthinking.

    I'll stay where it is warm.

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    seanferd

    That guy has most of his facts pretty straight, but they don't support his (rather vague) proposition, which I happen to find fairly meaningless.

    Someone else's assertions about TCP/IP, HTTP, and the military are quite out of this world.

    It's why I stopped visiting the Twin Threads in short order. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion, repeatedly, from slightly different angles.

    Too bad we don't care for other forms of chit-chat. Probably would be interesting.

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    santeewelding

    To nevertheless hold your nose, observe, and to maintain your dignity, which those in the Twin Threads have not. They be leaking out everywhere. They are their own Julian Assange.

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    santeewelding

    Then, Chad Perrin.

    Both overly long, first about one thing, then a completely other that slid by the premise of the first; then, the two more or less mucking about in the middle, with everyone contributing to the mess.

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    Ah.

    seanferd

    <a href="http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-13622-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=338233">Linux vs. Windows: Suspending logic and reason for blind faith</a>
    <BR>
    <a href="http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-12846-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=338491">The many eyes that matter for security are the friendly eyes</a>
    <BR>

    Multiple edits as TR is wreaking havoc on HTML.

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    Ah.

    boxfiddler Moderator

    That one in which seanferd displayed mastery in snark. :^0

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    seanferd

    Hm. If I've mastered something, even for a second, I suppose I should note it for future reference.

    Santee is the only one I know who called out the (to me) obvious, while everyone went to focus on content. That was the bit Donovan got right, apparently. I still don't believe any logic is being used, even "post-revelation".

    I really can't hold my nose that long. I deal with the same brain-deadening, repetitious <i>philosophy</i> (à la Mel Brooks) elsewhere, as a staple, and I've had quite enough for a while.

    Even if I am yet occasionally overcome with SIWOTI syndrome. There is so little payoff. I'm not learning anything or being entertained, and I don't see anyone else learning. People take positions and maintain them, regardless of facts.

    Besides, there are already entities here I promised I would no longer engage. I don't wish to increase the count. (I wasn't angry, but I pretty much told the character to get stuffed.) Better to come back later, in fresh conversation, and see if I can learn anything or challenge my thinking in new topics. No point in talking to the wall, less point in listening, as I see it, right now.

    Where the **** is Balthor, anyway?

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Dunno, but I miss him. Can't say as I blame him for staying away, though.

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    seanferd

    Nice to see Deepsand revisit occasionally these days. But I miss our departed and otherwise missing peers.

    Damn.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    There's a little less sparkle around the place.

    Though I have to admit, you added some with this: http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-12846-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=338491&messageID=3389685&tag=content;leftCol

    Cracked me up so hard my kittypoo scurried off my lap. I'm still grinning. :^0

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    seanferd

    It was only slightly amusing to me when I posted it. But it was a mildly jocular way to express what I think of some of the <s>dialogue</s> competing monologues here, sometimes.

    I pray someone calls me on it when I go off the charts.

    It was supposed to be a self-reporting poll, which I did not clarify, so I'm glad there weren't responses against that grain.

    I'm also glad it didn't get a hundred responses to which I would have had to reply, "It's not about you."

    Sorry, kittys. :)

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    dcolbert Contributor

    I've described the thread as a mosh-pit. It isn't for everyone. Slam-dancing is the act of running around in a cirlce repeatedly swinging your arms and legs around as if having a spastic fit while getting pummelled by other people intent on doing the same thing. There is no sanity or logic to it, and only a small fraction of lunatics in any crowd ever really participate in it. But I've enjoyed a good thrash until way too far into my 30s. :)

    Stage-diving, though, is suicide. No fun at all. I never understood why people do it.

    I'm completely sympathetic to those who want no part of either, though.

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    _Papa_

    ...And can read the crawl at the same time. Enforced confusion facilitates the miscommunication, so the can say "We informed you of that, you should have been listening instead of reading. Pay attention, w2ill ya?"

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    santeewelding

    Of how to take your far-off look. Clearly, you muse.

    Regardless, I award you a thumb.

    I've learned to pay my attention to you.


    _________

    No material changes. Only changes to meet what ought to be the highest standards of TR.

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    _Papa_

    to those little red underscores I keep overlooking as I type.

    I suppose I could take my own advice and *proofread*.

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    AnsuGisalas

    turn off spell checking!

    Trust in the force... err... scratch that, trust in the schwartz! That's the one

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    OH Smeg

    Turn off the Spool Chocker the Schwartz will guide you. :^0

    Col

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    we don't do anything about anything for talking about talking too much.

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    dcolbert Contributor

    Should have read all the posts first. I should have known my observation would not be original in a thread this active.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    have a moment or two...

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    _Papa_

    ..and kinda refreshing.

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    OH Smeg

    Gets a very amusing expression on her face as she gets sucked out of the Ail Lock Door into Raw Space.

    HAL9000 finds it so amusing that he continually sends a Pod out to bring her back in so he can watch it happen again and again.

    HAL9000 also doesn't play nice as he will not put a web cam in place so that the rest of us can see it either. :_|

    Col

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    NexS

    But your story has not to do with the question you pose, unless you took out a conversation with your housemate.

    Speaking of which, you seem to have many insectual housemates - Is this by choice?

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    seanferd

    Seaward, there are the snails. They only come out at night.

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    NexS

    Earwigs for me.
    It drives me round the twist, flyspray is a must - I don't <b>DO</b> the insect thing, especially spiders.

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    seanferd

    In summer, I frequently get outdoorsy types which would rather not have come in, but the lights, you know...

    Year round, there are a variety of ants, spiders (which don't get the axe unless they get in my way), occasional centipedes and millipedes, and tiny brown things I've never identified.

    I'm right on the edge of a woodsy river valley, so things could be mush worse, I suppose. Just a half mile closer to the lake, the air is thick with bugs at night (which also means huge spiders), so I guess I'm lucky in not having to deal with that, either.

    Very few mosquitoes in recent years. I wonder why.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    As long as the spiders stay in the basement and leave me alone, I leave them alone. Unless they're small and tannish and nocturnal, in which case they're smooshed upon notice.

    The occasional waterbug, mouse, mole. And skeeters all season.

    Oh. And bald-faced hornets pummeling the picture window in mid-summer. That's pretty strange.

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    seanferd

    We get all sorts of wasps and hornets which like to build under the second storey walkway. My job to deal with them. Sometimes I'm afforded cans of oily poisonous goodness with which I can strike from several meters. Mostly, I use my own mix of soap and bleach, after the sun goes down.

    Cheapskate management. They still don't understand it is important to be rid of these things, particularly with several people living here prone to anaphylactic shock due to stings. The kind of people for whom epi-pens do no good.

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    santeewelding

    Have I learned the distinction between "anaphylactic" and "prophylactic". Had to look the both of them up to get straight about it, and, to be ready to act with respect to either.

    If the epi-pen does them no good, then nothing does. One of the downsides of knowing enough about it to say, of another or yourself, "You're fuc*ked".

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    through the front door when they're at it. And I sneak oh so smally and quietly around the front corner when I do go...

    And inspect the **** out of the trees in front when they show up. I haven't figured out where they come from yet, or why it's only for a week or two in mid-summer. Or why they're trying to bust out my picture window. :0

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    seanferd

    But the answer for these folks is tubes, much larger doses of epinephrine, and steroids. I think it was steroids. Whatever it was, it stood a chance of radically worsening glaucoma. Doctor: "Well, do you want to breathe, or do you want to see for a few more minutes?" That was in the case of a relatively "mild" reaction.

    An epi will help, just not the kind an individual can legally carry about.

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    santeewelding

    And, whatnot, is also not what an individual carries about.

    No. I do not have you on.

    I carry about -- in contravention of federal law -- enough to take care of business, hoping never having to do it. Like the other contraventional side of the coin.

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    seanferd

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English

    I love this kind of stuff. I just found it, because you had gotten me thinking about it.

    One of the reasons I find Ansu so terribly entertaining is his eye on language.

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    NexS

    Are a breed I'd be glad to never come across. I may be exaggerating them in my mind, but I envisage them as monster wasps - which wouldn't be a problem if medieval methods of beast removal were available...

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    NexS

    You are correct.

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    santeewelding

    If one of them things had fallen into my drinky-poo.

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    AnsuGisalas

    you'd need to be drinking out of a goldfish bowl for it to even fit in there...
    But seriously... that's simply too freaky. I could try to picture what a hive of those would look like, or what their queen would look like... but I'd likely jump out the window in a panic if I did.

    And it's -5 °C out there.

    Which is comforting, as wasps don't do freezing.

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    Tink!

    Frequently get lost in our office. We track them down by their incessant chirping and then kindly remove them back to the out of doors (far away from the door.)

    Spiders - depends on the size, type and our mood. Sometimes they go outside, sometimes not.

    Oh, and as far as talking about talking too much - at least you're all talking about something even if it IS about talking. LOL.

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    seanferd

    Cricket was hiding behind my couch. Had a place in PA, though, where they would regularly get in under the bit of the house that had no excavation (there were even small tree stumps left under there). Those would drive me batty. You didn't expect them - they would start up later than the sea of crickets in the yard.

    Birds in a warehouse is always fun, too. And snakes. They don't look too good once someone has run them over with lift equipment.

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    Tink!

    in a warehouse are an interesting situation. Usually leaving the dock door open allows them to leave at their leisure - (as soon as they figure out that's the way out instead of constantly going up into the rafters.)

    Birds in a pool house were always a funny thing too. For some reason birds would sometimes end up inside our school's indoor pool building and it often took a while to get them back out the doors.

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    seanferd

    Most of them open, most of the time. The birds, however, would insist on trying to get out the roof openings where the fans were. If the fans were on, the birds knew not to go that way.

    I used to get one every other year in my childhood home. Passing out and falling down the chimney. Once I got them to come out, they would refuse my efforts to help get them out of the basement. There is something sad about a bird which is so frightened, or resigned to death, that it falls to the ground when released. They figure it out pretty quickly after that, though.

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    AV .

    We have lots of critters here too because we live next to a nature preserve. The Cave Crickets are the absolute worst. They come in with the firewood and they jump at you. It gives me the chills just thinking about them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_cricket

    We have lots of stink bugs this year too. They don't bother you though. Just don't kill squash them or they do stink and attract more of their kind.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_marmorated_stink_bug

    I don't mind little spiders, but the big ones get the vacuum. We sometimes have big nasty wood spiders. If they're in the house, they're dead meat.

    I'm sure you don't miss the mosquitoes, but possibly they spray near you to get rid of them. They did that in NY and some parts of NJ because of West Nile Virus.

    AV

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    seanferd

    I only recall two or three years that they have sprayed around here, but i certainly could be wrong.

    This:
    <i>Dropping them into a jar with an inch of soapy water with a high enough concentration will dissolve the exoskeleton, and once enough are collected they can then be flushed down the toilet on occasion</i>

    Yummy.

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    santeewelding

    I am told, will do the same.

    Not speaking, mind you, of their bacterial gut contents, at which point, I think twice.


    Better to rip off the legs of a cricket.

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    seanferd

    Cracker carapace.

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    _Papa_

    we call "camel crickets" around here. The live in dark, moist places like the crawlspace of my first house. They can't see well at all. but they all seem to watch you as you try to pull wires and repair plumbing. when they jump, it always seems to be toward you, causing you to bang your head on flooring nails. Harmless, but very high scores in "creep factor".

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    _Papa_

    Me for letting the bugs in (I'm always blamed for this) and her for being unable to escape them. For her, one critter is a full-blown infestation.

    I'm personally not bothered that much except for wasps. They make my skin crawl.

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    OH Smeg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeNQ4ZY8VQ0

    What can I say some Farmer was on the News today saying that these Locus don't do anything any good and then they swung over to a Kookaburra standing on the ground eating as many as flew into his beak.

    He thought it was great as he didn't have to go hunting and dinner came to him.

    Col

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    santeewelding

    Is that the good-looking young lady who introduced the story at her news desk appears to have taken her lessons -- right down to vocalism and dramatic pause -- from U.S., local-news practice.

    Our people have it honed. I've watched the polish evolve over a lifetime. I'm sick of it.

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    AnsuGisalas

    I prefer having my deception feed in one channel at a time. Picture without sound or sound without picture...

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    santeewelding

    One implied; one direct.

    As to the first, you have no giddy soul.

    As to the second, what can I say? I live among you all, insectual included.

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    NexS

    Is happy where it resides, being an insect, or not, it is happy.

    I've had only 2 cockroaches roam my Castle. One in the garage, and one in the hall - both died badly.

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    DelbertPGH

    If you live in Florida you are plagued with bugs. Everything grows there in abundance, and not just leafy things in pots. If you don't routinely poison the perimeter of your Florida house, my mother told me, you get bugs.

    She said it did not indicate a problem if you saw a big roach in the house. That meant he just wandered in from outside. It's when you see </i>little</ni> ones that you know you have them growing between your walls.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I keep boric acid powder in all my drawers, corners, room perimeters. I cover the the powder in the drawers with removable shelf paper so's I can repowder annually. Eeewww...

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    NexS

    Is underused.
    I'd relocate.

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    _Papa_

    that used to crawl across the ceiling in my second house. Why they preferred the ceiling I'll never know, but if they fell to the floor, they would make a surprising noise. They would made a louder popping noise when they would die very suddenly. It was a two-paper-towel job to clean them up. Yeah, yech.

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    santeewelding

    I am not alone and I am not strange, when it comes to the "insectual", and more than the gravitational constant would seem to allow.

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    NexS

    Is something to sought. Getting by without oddity is far too simple, and dare I say it - boring.
    I don't mind conversing with inanimate objects, but insects are given a wide berth.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    there was a reason I like you.

    Strangeness
    Is something to sought. Getting by without oddity is far too simple, and dare I say it - boring.

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    AnsuGisalas

    be odd.
    - Cary Grant

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    _Papa_

    When my worn out eyes read the word "incestual"
    instead of '"insectual".

    Gotta get new lenses. These the VA gave me wore out fast.

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    NexS

    You been lookin' too much?
    At what, signified by your conclusion of incestual, perhaps? Perhaps the mind has found its way to the gutter.

    Your mother told that you'd go blind, but she never said that mere thoughts would hurry the process.

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    santeewelding

    You hit the man with too much over this. I, myself, would be tried.

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    NexS

    Too easily, but this time, I jove.

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    santeewelding

    Upon a turn of phrase; a turn of word; a turn of letter...

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    AnsuGisalas

    we're talking about straining stuff through the front teeth.
    Or about the practical benefits of the cognac-snob swirling-my-drink-at-eye-level before drinking.
    The French, they know cockroaches.

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    NexS

    Know, also, a multitude of other unusual delicacies.

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    seanferd

    my @$$. They are looking for roaches. I knew there had to be a real story behind the connoisseur façade.

    You are such a font of useful information!

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    AnsuGisalas

    for reference, see the "twin thread"

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    seanferd

    I find your posted thoughts to be well worthwhile. And usually fun.

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    AV .

    Because we're all too busy talking.

    BLECH is right! I hate when that happens. The problem is that bugs like to drink alcohol as much as we do. Think of all of the places that bug could have chosen to go where he would be safe, but instead he decides to dive right into the sherry and risk it all for a sip!

    At least he had a little something before you squashed him.

    AV

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    santeewelding

    Was on its back, legs frantic. It was the legs and their movement on my lip that startled me.

    A famous person suggested to me offline that I should have crushed the roach between my teeth, swallowed, and carried on like a man.

    As it was, I didn't. I poured it out, flushed it, washed the tumbler, and carried on like the wuss he said I was.

    Oh, and, then came here and talked about talking about it.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Actual men don't need no trappings of manlyhood, nor need they stay within the safety of manly convention.
    "Like" a man leads to bad places, off-stage, people should never try to be something they're not.

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    TobiF

    Nah. I prefer sticking to vegetarian...
    It ain't wussy, that's about having values.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Vegetarians are the true gourmet's meat! ]:)

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    SmartAceW0LF

    seems a waste of good Sherry to me. Sigh, you let the bugger win. I think I would have had to eat 'em!

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    OH Smeg

    Sounds like a Recipe to me as well.

    Col

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    _Papa_

    that roach had an expensive funeral as I'm sure Santee drinks only the best hooch.

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    OH Smeg

    After all it's blatantly obvious you need something to strain your drinks with. :^0

    Now you have me thinking of Joe's Apartment

    Be Afraid we know where you live, WE LIVE WHERE YOU LIVE.

    So what cocky have you upset recently and why are they out to get you Santee?

    Col

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    _Papa_

    ...for insect control. Having sported one for a few years, I found it to be the favored vacation spot for my dearly departed dog's resident fleas. I now know why guys are always scratching their beard.

    My cat's fleas, however, don't seem to favor the VanDyke I now farm, I guess they consider it cramped quarters.

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    OH Smeg

    Maybe like all things related to cats they just have poorer taste.

    Though as I used to breed Great Danes that is never a problem that I've run across.

    Col

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    _Papa_

    ...have Great Fleas?

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    santeewelding

    They're so big you have to shoot them. The fleas, that is.

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    OH Smeg

    No they have normal flees but millions more of em.

    They have lots more room to carry the flees.

    But as they also have short hair my dogs at least didn't have many fleas.

    Drool and hair stains on cloths are entirely a different matter though. :^0

    You learn never to wear single color things floral patterns tend to hide the drool marks and hair.

    Makes things hard when you have Black and Blue dogs though as what hides one color shows the other.

    The only real problem we had with Fleas was a Ground Flea Infestation in a Country town where we lived and it affected everyone. You walked downstairs and your legs turned black.

    Things where so bad that the dogs didn't want to go down the stairs they would just sit on the top step and look miserable. Of course if they had some Play Time things where different.

    I hit the entire yard with Flea wash and spread Lime under the house and never had any problems again. The Pest Controller was making a killing though spraying yards every second day to try to control those Ground Fleas. My treatment also stooped the ticks which you could see advancing across the neighbors yards infesting everything that they crossed.

    Col

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    AnsuGisalas

    "Don't Great Danes
    ...have Great Fleas?"

    I resemble that implication!

    Btw, funny thing; guess what great danes are called in Danish?

    Highlight to see the answer:<font color="#FFFFFF">Grand Danois</color>

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    _Papa_

    I just realized what I implied about Victor Borge, too!

    I repent!

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    DelbertPGH

    Sherry, that is.

    I heard that in Thailand they deep-fry roaches. Maybe they have a superior snacking roach.

    Incidentally, sherry is kind of an elite drink. Don't meet many sherry drinkers.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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    JamesRL

    Among the English, Sherry is a popular aperatif. Not uncommon to go to a dinner party and be offered one before dinner is served.

    My mom drank Sherry. Didn't grow up rich, for sure. English ancestry though.

    Some of my friends drink Sherry.

    My Father in law drank Sherry. Grew up in Ireland, was a popular aperatif.

    My wife drinks Sherry, and I do as well.

    Guess I'm one of them there elitety type fellers. I drink Earl Grey tea too, if that matters.

    Harvey's Bristol Cream is a good Sherry to start with. Has kind of a nutty flavour.

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    seanferd

    Earl Grey is good. I also became quite fond of English Breakfast Tea. I came across it in a weird little discount store in California (I believe, in Whittier) on a working trip there. Imported, came in a little wooden box. I was hooked, instantly.

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    AnsuGisalas

    I've long since slipped into the greens and whites though...
    Had to do with a teapot. Old, much used, black on the inside.
    Then, after hold green tea a few times... all clean.
    Got me thinking about black stuff offa normal tea, and about the cleansing properties of green tea.
    Tastes good too.

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    seanferd

    I've never settled on any particular type or brand, though.

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    Tink!

    I've found that simply drinking a lot of hot Green Tea constantly throughout the day helps my cold/cough go away fast and without nasty OTC meds.

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    _Papa_

    Is delicious, if you like barbecued tea.

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    OH Smeg

    Drink lots of that stuff during the day and you no longer care if you have or don't have a cold.

    You don't overly care about work either which works for me.

    Col

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    OH Smeg

    Look in the Drink Container first. Though drinking Sherry out of Plastic Cups is just so wrong on so many levels to begin with.

    You'll also have to stop sipping the sherry and Skool it straight down, that way the Cocky goes straight into your Stomach hitting the bottom without touching the sides and the Protein doesn't do you any harm at all.

    As the old saying goes What The Eye can not see the Heart Can Not Grieve. So basically if you don't know to begin with there is no problem. Except for the poor little Cocky of course.

    So Santee in future treat the Sherry like Burning Booze and throw it straight down.

    Col

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    santeewelding

    A kind of cracked logic to what you are saying.

    But you address the cockroach and not the question.

    No thumb.

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    OH Smeg

    I was addressing your Repulsion to feeling the Cocky hit your lip and trying to get away.

    After all if you had of sallowed it without realizing it you wouldn't have started this thread would you?

    The Alcohol in the sherry is going to kill most of the germs on the cocky and your stomach Acids would do short work of the rest so other than not wanting to eat one to begin with it's not going to do you any harm.

    There was a place here selling Chocolate Frogs which I thought was a reasonable thing until I realized that they had dipped real frogs in chocolate. Defiantly not a Fredo in sight there and even I drew the line at those things.

    But then again there are quite a few dishes that i also refuse to eat because they offend my sensibilities or my culture has told me that they are not things to eat. While I'm no cat lover I'm also not going to be pushing the idea that they make a great meal. But that is because I was taught from a very early age that Cats are not for eating cattle are.

    But things like Embryo Eggs boiled are not to my liking either and I wouldn't consider trying one. They are however a Delicacy in certain parts of the world but that doesn't mean that I need to eat them. However if you where not aware what it was you where eating you tend to enjoy it till you find out what it was. Well most people at least.

    I still remember my little sister wanting to fit in demanding that I eat a Traditional Meal with a family when we where traveling. I stuck to the steak and she threw up on the Birds Nest Soup. Actually till she saw the bits of bird in it she was enjoying it and then things changed. :^0

    Col

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    TobiF

    Santee!
    Your chances are good the moment you apply for a position where they ask for "Great attention to details"!

    This goes for any area of application, but one such area is, of course, tiny living creatures, like spiders, cockroaches and their friends. (Have you written about ants yet?)
    What do you think about cats? I know they're a bit bigger, but I like cats. (well, not to eat, though)
    Good thing with cats is that it's usually hard to eat them by mistake.

    Now, to the question: I don't think we talk too much about talking. To be honest, we don't talk much at all; we write, instead
    But, not too much.
    When you're dealing with geeks, then it's logical that it becomes logical. A question about how to program a certain task will occasionally evolve into discussion about differences between program languages. And then Santee will stir up another meta-level by talking about the discussion itself.

    Still, it's not too much.
    As Susan wrote in her post yesterday (defending her right to be funny), if you know you don't like to read a certain kind of content, just click somewhere else.

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    santeewelding

    There was that one time, at the dark, back end of Tijuana, while young and drunk in the 60s, practicing my Mexican Spanish (I learned Castillian) I bought a street-vendor taco.

    The meat was suspiciously like what I thought to be feline. Probably was.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    like to play with, and eat, bugs.

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    TobiF

    If you don't want to eat bugs, then you shouldn't eat cats, neither. :)

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    Ha!

    Tink!

    Now that statement made me laugh.

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    _Papa_

    [Roaches, lizards, moles, non-descript animal-like remains*, carefully selected commercial cat foods (this is the most disgusting), Boar's Head Honey Smoked Turkey (before I can have a sandwich), spaghetti (my wife's recipe), and of course lasagna], it seems they would a highly nutritious meal.

    *This worries me, since he *is* a house cat.

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    AnsuGisalas

    and I talk too much.
    Or... I type text into these text fields on web pages too much... at least as far as preserving an air of mystery is concerned. And my sanity, whew, that's gone.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Sanity is highly over-rated.

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    _Papa_

    can get you an early retirement!

    (or have I mentioned that?)

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    OH Smeg

    Always seems to happen long before retirement. When you work with Computers at the Hardware Level it's already happened.

    Working as a Help Desk Tech just means that you never had any Sanity to begin with.

    What happens after retirement isn't a loss of something you have already lost it's just a far more noticeable deterioration of the existing complaint.

    Or so I've been told by Medical Professionals. :0

    Col

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    seanferd

    but TMI - Too Much Information.

    This does not nest in the realm of either, for me. But, blech, indeed.


    edit: And what of these complaints of too much meta (or meta meta)?

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    santeewelding

    I don't hang with them folks. Don't understand them and don't truck with them, either.

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    seanferd

    of where such dismissal lives in the threads?

    Pah. I probably don't want to know. Silly of me to ask. So very tired of people's experiments in miscommunication, intentional or otherwise, trolling or simply unthinking.

    I'll stay where it is warm.

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    seanferd

    That guy has most of his facts pretty straight, but they don't support his (rather vague) proposition, which I happen to find fairly meaningless.

    Someone else's assertions about TCP/IP, HTTP, and the military are quite out of this world.

    It's why I stopped visiting the Twin Threads in short order. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion, repeatedly, from slightly different angles.

    Too bad we don't care for other forms of chit-chat. Probably would be interesting.

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    santeewelding

    To nevertheless hold your nose, observe, and to maintain your dignity, which those in the Twin Threads have not. They be leaking out everywhere. They are their own Julian Assange.

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    santeewelding

    Then, Chad Perrin.

    Both overly long, first about one thing, then a completely other that slid by the premise of the first; then, the two more or less mucking about in the middle, with everyone contributing to the mess.

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    Ah.

    seanferd

    <a href="http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-13622-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=338233">Linux vs. Windows: Suspending logic and reason for blind faith</a>
    <BR>
    <a href="http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-12846-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=338491">The many eyes that matter for security are the friendly eyes</a>
    <BR>

    Multiple edits as TR is wreaking havoc on HTML.

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    Ah.

    boxfiddler Moderator

    That one in which seanferd displayed mastery in snark. :^0

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    seanferd

    Hm. If I've mastered something, even for a second, I suppose I should note it for future reference.

    Santee is the only one I know who called out the (to me) obvious, while everyone went to focus on content. That was the bit Donovan got right, apparently. I still don't believe any logic is being used, even "post-revelation".

    I really can't hold my nose that long. I deal with the same brain-deadening, repetitious <i>philosophy</i> (à la Mel Brooks) elsewhere, as a staple, and I've had quite enough for a while.

    Even if I am yet occasionally overcome with SIWOTI syndrome. There is so little payoff. I'm not learning anything or being entertained, and I don't see anyone else learning. People take positions and maintain them, regardless of facts.

    Besides, there are already entities here I promised I would no longer engage. I don't wish to increase the count. (I wasn't angry, but I pretty much told the character to get stuffed.) Better to come back later, in fresh conversation, and see if I can learn anything or challenge my thinking in new topics. No point in talking to the wall, less point in listening, as I see it, right now.

    Where the **** is Balthor, anyway?

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Dunno, but I miss him. Can't say as I blame him for staying away, though.

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    seanferd

    Nice to see Deepsand revisit occasionally these days. But I miss our departed and otherwise missing peers.

    Damn.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    There's a little less sparkle around the place.

    Though I have to admit, you added some with this: http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-12846-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=338491&messageID=3389685&tag=content;leftCol

    Cracked me up so hard my kittypoo scurried off my lap. I'm still grinning. :^0

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    seanferd

    It was only slightly amusing to me when I posted it. But it was a mildly jocular way to express what I think of some of the <s>dialogue</s> competing monologues here, sometimes.

    I pray someone calls me on it when I go off the charts.

    It was supposed to be a self-reporting poll, which I did not clarify, so I'm glad there weren't responses against that grain.

    I'm also glad it didn't get a hundred responses to which I would have had to reply, "It's not about you."

    Sorry, kittys. :)

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    dcolbert Contributor

    I've described the thread as a mosh-pit. It isn't for everyone. Slam-dancing is the act of running around in a cirlce repeatedly swinging your arms and legs around as if having a spastic fit while getting pummelled by other people intent on doing the same thing. There is no sanity or logic to it, and only a small fraction of lunatics in any crowd ever really participate in it. But I've enjoyed a good thrash until way too far into my 30s. :)

    Stage-diving, though, is suicide. No fun at all. I never understood why people do it.

    I'm completely sympathetic to those who want no part of either, though.

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    _Papa_

    ...And can read the crawl at the same time. Enforced confusion facilitates the miscommunication, so the can say "We informed you of that, you should have been listening instead of reading. Pay attention, w2ill ya?"

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    santeewelding

    Of how to take your far-off look. Clearly, you muse.

    Regardless, I award you a thumb.

    I've learned to pay my attention to you.


    _________

    No material changes. Only changes to meet what ought to be the highest standards of TR.

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    _Papa_

    to those little red underscores I keep overlooking as I type.

    I suppose I could take my own advice and *proofread*.

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    AnsuGisalas

    turn off spell checking!

    Trust in the force... err... scratch that, trust in the schwartz! That's the one

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    OH Smeg

    Turn off the Spool Chocker the Schwartz will guide you. :^0

    Col

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    we don't do anything about anything for talking about talking too much.

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    dcolbert Contributor

    Should have read all the posts first. I should have known my observation would not be original in a thread this active.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    have a moment or two...

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    _Papa_

    ..and kinda refreshing.

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    OH Smeg

    Gets a very amusing expression on her face as she gets sucked out of the Ail Lock Door into Raw Space.

    HAL9000 finds it so amusing that he continually sends a Pod out to bring her back in so he can watch it happen again and again.

    HAL9000 also doesn't play nice as he will not put a web cam in place so that the rest of us can see it either. :_|

    Col

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    NexS

    But your story has not to do with the question you pose, unless you took out a conversation with your housemate.

    Speaking of which, you seem to have many insectual housemates - Is this by choice?

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    seanferd

    Seaward, there are the snails. They only come out at night.

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    NexS

    Earwigs for me.
    It drives me round the twist, flyspray is a must - I don't <b>DO</b> the insect thing, especially spiders.

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    seanferd

    In summer, I frequently get outdoorsy types which would rather not have come in, but the lights, you know...

    Year round, there are a variety of ants, spiders (which don't get the axe unless they get in my way), occasional centipedes and millipedes, and tiny brown things I've never identified.

    I'm right on the edge of a woodsy river valley, so things could be mush worse, I suppose. Just a half mile closer to the lake, the air is thick with bugs at night (which also means huge spiders), so I guess I'm lucky in not having to deal with that, either.

    Very few mosquitoes in recent years. I wonder why.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    As long as the spiders stay in the basement and leave me alone, I leave them alone. Unless they're small and tannish and nocturnal, in which case they're smooshed upon notice.

    The occasional waterbug, mouse, mole. And skeeters all season.

    Oh. And bald-faced hornets pummeling the picture window in mid-summer. That's pretty strange.

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    seanferd

    We get all sorts of wasps and hornets which like to build under the second storey walkway. My job to deal with them. Sometimes I'm afforded cans of oily poisonous goodness with which I can strike from several meters. Mostly, I use my own mix of soap and bleach, after the sun goes down.

    Cheapskate management. They still don't understand it is important to be rid of these things, particularly with several people living here prone to anaphylactic shock due to stings. The kind of people for whom epi-pens do no good.

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    santeewelding

    Have I learned the distinction between "anaphylactic" and "prophylactic". Had to look the both of them up to get straight about it, and, to be ready to act with respect to either.

    If the epi-pen does them no good, then nothing does. One of the downsides of knowing enough about it to say, of another or yourself, "You're fuc*ked".

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    through the front door when they're at it. And I sneak oh so smally and quietly around the front corner when I do go...

    And inspect the **** out of the trees in front when they show up. I haven't figured out where they come from yet, or why it's only for a week or two in mid-summer. Or why they're trying to bust out my picture window. :0

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    seanferd

    But the answer for these folks is tubes, much larger doses of epinephrine, and steroids. I think it was steroids. Whatever it was, it stood a chance of radically worsening glaucoma. Doctor: "Well, do you want to breathe, or do you want to see for a few more minutes?" That was in the case of a relatively "mild" reaction.

    An epi will help, just not the kind an individual can legally carry about.

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    santeewelding

    And, whatnot, is also not what an individual carries about.

    No. I do not have you on.

    I carry about -- in contravention of federal law -- enough to take care of business, hoping never having to do it. Like the other contraventional side of the coin.

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    seanferd

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English

    I love this kind of stuff. I just found it, because you had gotten me thinking about it.

    One of the reasons I find Ansu so terribly entertaining is his eye on language.

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    NexS

    Are a breed I'd be glad to never come across. I may be exaggerating them in my mind, but I envisage them as monster wasps - which wouldn't be a problem if medieval methods of beast removal were available...

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    NexS

    You are correct.

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    santeewelding

    If one of them things had fallen into my drinky-poo.

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    AnsuGisalas

    you'd need to be drinking out of a goldfish bowl for it to even fit in there...
    But seriously... that's simply too freaky. I could try to picture what a hive of those would look like, or what their queen would look like... but I'd likely jump out the window in a panic if I did.

    And it's -5 °C out there.

    Which is comforting, as wasps don't do freezing.

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    Tink!

    Frequently get lost in our office. We track them down by their incessant chirping and then kindly remove them back to the out of doors (far away from the door.)

    Spiders - depends on the size, type and our mood. Sometimes they go outside, sometimes not.

    Oh, and as far as talking about talking too much - at least you're all talking about something even if it IS about talking. LOL.

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    seanferd

    Cricket was hiding behind my couch. Had a place in PA, though, where they would regularly get in under the bit of the house that had no excavation (there were even small tree stumps left under there). Those would drive me batty. You didn't expect them - they would start up later than the sea of crickets in the yard.

    Birds in a warehouse is always fun, too. And snakes. They don't look too good once someone has run them over with lift equipment.

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    Tink!

    in a warehouse are an interesting situation. Usually leaving the dock door open allows them to leave at their leisure - (as soon as they figure out that's the way out instead of constantly going up into the rafters.)

    Birds in a pool house were always a funny thing too. For some reason birds would sometimes end up inside our school's indoor pool building and it often took a while to get them back out the doors.

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    seanferd

    Most of them open, most of the time. The birds, however, would insist on trying to get out the roof openings where the fans were. If the fans were on, the birds knew not to go that way.

    I used to get one every other year in my childhood home. Passing out and falling down the chimney. Once I got them to come out, they would refuse my efforts to help get them out of the basement. There is something sad about a bird which is so frightened, or resigned to death, that it falls to the ground when released. They figure it out pretty quickly after that, though.

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    AV .

    We have lots of critters here too because we live next to a nature preserve. The Cave Crickets are the absolute worst. They come in with the firewood and they jump at you. It gives me the chills just thinking about them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_cricket

    We have lots of stink bugs this year too. They don't bother you though. Just don't kill squash them or they do stink and attract more of their kind.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_marmorated_stink_bug

    I don't mind little spiders, but the big ones get the vacuum. We sometimes have big nasty wood spiders. If they're in the house, they're dead meat.

    I'm sure you don't miss the mosquitoes, but possibly they spray near you to get rid of them. They did that in NY and some parts of NJ because of West Nile Virus.

    AV

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    seanferd

    I only recall two or three years that they have sprayed around here, but i certainly could be wrong.

    This:
    <i>Dropping them into a jar with an inch of soapy water with a high enough concentration will dissolve the exoskeleton, and once enough are collected they can then be flushed down the toilet on occasion</i>

    Yummy.

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    santeewelding

    I am told, will do the same.

    Not speaking, mind you, of their bacterial gut contents, at which point, I think twice.


    Better to rip off the legs of a cricket.

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    seanferd

    Cracker carapace.

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    _Papa_

    we call "camel crickets" around here. The live in dark, moist places like the crawlspace of my first house. They can't see well at all. but they all seem to watch you as you try to pull wires and repair plumbing. when they jump, it always seems to be toward you, causing you to bang your head on flooring nails. Harmless, but very high scores in "creep factor".

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    _Papa_

    Me for letting the bugs in (I'm always blamed for this) and her for being unable to escape them. For her, one critter is a full-blown infestation.

    I'm personally not bothered that much except for wasps. They make my skin crawl.

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    OH Smeg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeNQ4ZY8VQ0

    What can I say some Farmer was on the News today saying that these Locus don't do anything any good and then they swung over to a Kookaburra standing on the ground eating as many as flew into his beak.

    He thought it was great as he didn't have to go hunting and dinner came to him.

    Col

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    santeewelding

    Is that the good-looking young lady who introduced the story at her news desk appears to have taken her lessons -- right down to vocalism and dramatic pause -- from U.S., local-news practice.

    Our people have it honed. I've watched the polish evolve over a lifetime. I'm sick of it.

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    AnsuGisalas

    I prefer having my deception feed in one channel at a time. Picture without sound or sound without picture...

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    santeewelding

    One implied; one direct.

    As to the first, you have no giddy soul.

    As to the second, what can I say? I live among you all, insectual included.

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    NexS

    Is happy where it resides, being an insect, or not, it is happy.

    I've had only 2 cockroaches roam my Castle. One in the garage, and one in the hall - both died badly.

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    DelbertPGH

    If you live in Florida you are plagued with bugs. Everything grows there in abundance, and not just leafy things in pots. If you don't routinely poison the perimeter of your Florida house, my mother told me, you get bugs.

    She said it did not indicate a problem if you saw a big roach in the house. That meant he just wandered in from outside. It's when you see </i>little</ni> ones that you know you have them growing between your walls.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I keep boric acid powder in all my drawers, corners, room perimeters. I cover the the powder in the drawers with removable shelf paper so's I can repowder annually. Eeewww...

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    NexS

    Is underused.
    I'd relocate.

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    _Papa_

    that used to crawl across the ceiling in my second house. Why they preferred the ceiling I'll never know, but if they fell to the floor, they would make a surprising noise. They would made a louder popping noise when they would die very suddenly. It was a two-paper-towel job to clean them up. Yeah, yech.

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    santeewelding

    I am not alone and I am not strange, when it comes to the "insectual", and more than the gravitational constant would seem to allow.

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    NexS

    Is something to sought. Getting by without oddity is far too simple, and dare I say it - boring.
    I don't mind conversing with inanimate objects, but insects are given a wide berth.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    there was a reason I like you.

    Strangeness
    Is something to sought. Getting by without oddity is far too simple, and dare I say it - boring.

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    AnsuGisalas

    be odd.
    - Cary Grant

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    _Papa_

    When my worn out eyes read the word "incestual"
    instead of '"insectual".

    Gotta get new lenses. These the VA gave me wore out fast.

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    NexS

    You been lookin' too much?
    At what, signified by your conclusion of incestual, perhaps? Perhaps the mind has found its way to the gutter.

    Your mother told that you'd go blind, but she never said that mere thoughts would hurry the process.

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    santeewelding

    You hit the man with too much over this. I, myself, would be tried.

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    NexS

    Too easily, but this time, I jove.

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    santeewelding

    Upon a turn of phrase; a turn of word; a turn of letter...

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    AnsuGisalas

    we're talking about straining stuff through the front teeth.
    Or about the practical benefits of the cognac-snob swirling-my-drink-at-eye-level before drinking.
    The French, they know cockroaches.

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    NexS

    Know, also, a multitude of other unusual delicacies.

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    seanferd

    my @$$. They are looking for roaches. I knew there had to be a real story behind the connoisseur façade.

    You are such a font of useful information!

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    AnsuGisalas

    for reference, see the "twin thread"

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    seanferd

    I find your posted thoughts to be well worthwhile. And usually fun.

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    AV .

    Because we're all too busy talking.

    BLECH is right! I hate when that happens. The problem is that bugs like to drink alcohol as much as we do. Think of all of the places that bug could have chosen to go where he would be safe, but instead he decides to dive right into the sherry and risk it all for a sip!

    At least he had a little something before you squashed him.

    AV

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    santeewelding

    Was on its back, legs frantic. It was the legs and their movement on my lip that startled me.

    A famous person suggested to me offline that I should have crushed the roach between my teeth, swallowed, and carried on like a man.

    As it was, I didn't. I poured it out, flushed it, washed the tumbler, and carried on like the wuss he said I was.

    Oh, and, then came here and talked about talking about it.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Actual men don't need no trappings of manlyhood, nor need they stay within the safety of manly convention.
    "Like" a man leads to bad places, off-stage, people should never try to be something they're not.

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    TobiF

    Nah. I prefer sticking to vegetarian...
    It ain't wussy, that's about having values.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Vegetarians are the true gourmet's meat! ]:)

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    SmartAceW0LF

    seems a waste of good Sherry to me. Sigh, you let the bugger win. I think I would have had to eat 'em!

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    OH Smeg

    Sounds like a Recipe to me as well.

    Col

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    _Papa_

    that roach had an expensive funeral as I'm sure Santee drinks only the best hooch.

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    OH Smeg

    After all it's blatantly obvious you need something to strain your drinks with. :^0

    Now you have me thinking of Joe's Apartment

    Be Afraid we know where you live, WE LIVE WHERE YOU LIVE.

    So what cocky have you upset recently and why are they out to get you Santee?

    Col

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    _Papa_

    ...for insect control. Having sported one for a few years, I found it to be the favored vacation spot for my dearly departed dog's resident fleas. I now know why guys are always scratching their beard.

    My cat's fleas, however, don't seem to favor the VanDyke I now farm, I guess they consider it cramped quarters.

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    OH Smeg

    Maybe like all things related to cats they just have poorer taste.

    Though as I used to breed Great Danes that is never a problem that I've run across.

    Col

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    _Papa_

    ...have Great Fleas?

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    santeewelding

    They're so big you have to shoot them. The fleas, that is.

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    OH Smeg

    No they have normal flees but millions more of em.

    They have lots more room to carry the flees.

    But as they also have short hair my dogs at least didn't have many fleas.

    Drool and hair stains on cloths are entirely a different matter though. :^0

    You learn never to wear single color things floral patterns tend to hide the drool marks and hair.

    Makes things hard when you have Black and Blue dogs though as what hides one color shows the other.

    The only real problem we had with Fleas was a Ground Flea Infestation in a Country town where we lived and it affected everyone. You walked downstairs and your legs turned black.

    Things where so bad that the dogs didn't want to go down the stairs they would just sit on the top step and look miserable. Of course if they had some Play Time things where different.

    I hit the entire yard with Flea wash and spread Lime under the house and never had any problems again. The Pest Controller was making a killing though spraying yards every second day to try to control those Ground Fleas. My treatment also stooped the ticks which you could see advancing across the neighbors yards infesting everything that they crossed.

    Col

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    AnsuGisalas

    "Don't Great Danes
    ...have Great Fleas?"

    I resemble that implication!

    Btw, funny thing; guess what great danes are called in Danish?

    Highlight to see the answer:<font color="#FFFFFF">Grand Danois</color>

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    _Papa_

    I just realized what I implied about Victor Borge, too!

    I repent!

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    DelbertPGH

    Sherry, that is.

    I heard that in Thailand they deep-fry roaches. Maybe they have a superior snacking roach.

    Incidentally, sherry is kind of an elite drink. Don't meet many sherry drinkers.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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    JamesRL

    Among the English, Sherry is a popular aperatif. Not uncommon to go to a dinner party and be offered one before dinner is served.

    My mom drank Sherry. Didn't grow up rich, for sure. English ancestry though.

    Some of my friends drink Sherry.

    My Father in law drank Sherry. Grew up in Ireland, was a popular aperatif.

    My wife drinks Sherry, and I do as well.

    Guess I'm one of them there elitety type fellers. I drink Earl Grey tea too, if that matters.

    Harvey's Bristol Cream is a good Sherry to start with. Has kind of a nutty flavour.

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    seanferd

    Earl Grey is good. I also became quite fond of English Breakfast Tea. I came across it in a weird little discount store in California (I believe, in Whittier) on a working trip there. Imported, came in a little wooden box. I was hooked, instantly.

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    AnsuGisalas

    I've long since slipped into the greens and whites though...
    Had to do with a teapot. Old, much used, black on the inside.
    Then, after hold green tea a few times... all clean.
    Got me thinking about black stuff offa normal tea, and about the cleansing properties of green tea.
    Tastes good too.

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    seanferd

    I've never settled on any particular type or brand, though.

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    Tink!

    I've found that simply drinking a lot of hot Green Tea constantly throughout the day helps my cold/cough go away fast and without nasty OTC meds.

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    _Papa_

    Is delicious, if you like barbecued tea.

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    OH Smeg

    Drink lots of that stuff during the day and you no longer care if you have or don't have a cold.

    You don't overly care about work either which works for me.

    Col

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    OH Smeg

    Look in the Drink Container first. Though drinking Sherry out of Plastic Cups is just so wrong on so many levels to begin with.

    You'll also have to stop sipping the sherry and Skool it straight down, that way the Cocky goes straight into your Stomach hitting the bottom without touching the sides and the Protein doesn't do you any harm at all.

    As the old saying goes What The Eye can not see the Heart Can Not Grieve. So basically if you don't know to begin with there is no problem. Except for the poor little Cocky of course.

    So Santee in future treat the Sherry like Burning Booze and throw it straight down.

    Col

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    santeewelding

    A kind of cracked logic to what you are saying.

    But you address the cockroach and not the question.

    No thumb.

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    OH Smeg

    I was addressing your Repulsion to feeling the Cocky hit your lip and trying to get away.

    After all if you had of sallowed it without realizing it you wouldn't have started this thread would you?

    The Alcohol in the sherry is going to kill most of the germs on the cocky and your stomach Acids would do short work of the rest so other than not wanting to eat one to begin with it's not going to do you any harm.

    There was a place here selling Chocolate Frogs which I thought was a reasonable thing until I realized that they had dipped real frogs in chocolate. Defiantly not a Fredo in sight there and even I drew the line at those things.

    But then again there are quite a few dishes that i also refuse to eat because they offend my sensibilities or my culture has told me that they are not things to eat. While I'm no cat lover I'm also not going to be pushing the idea that they make a great meal. But that is because I was taught from a very early age that Cats are not for eating cattle are.

    But things like Embryo Eggs boiled are not to my liking either and I wouldn't consider trying one. They are however a Delicacy in certain parts of the world but that doesn't mean that I need to eat them. However if you where not aware what it was you where eating you tend to enjoy it till you find out what it was. Well most people at least.

    I still remember my little sister wanting to fit in demanding that I eat a Traditional Meal with a family when we where traveling. I stuck to the steak and she threw up on the Birds Nest Soup. Actually till she saw the bits of bird in it she was enjoying it and then things changed. :^0

    Col

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    TobiF

    Santee!
    Your chances are good the moment you apply for a position where they ask for "Great attention to details"!

    This goes for any area of application, but one such area is, of course, tiny living creatures, like spiders, cockroaches and their friends. (Have you written about ants yet?)
    What do you think about cats? I know they're a bit bigger, but I like cats. (well, not to eat, though)
    Good thing with cats is that it's usually hard to eat them by mistake.

    Now, to the question: I don't think we talk too much about talking. To be honest, we don't talk much at all; we write, instead
    But, not too much.
    When you're dealing with geeks, then it's logical that it becomes logical. A question about how to program a certain task will occasionally evolve into discussion about differences between program languages. And then Santee will stir up another meta-level by talking about the discussion itself.

    Still, it's not too much.
    As Susan wrote in her post yesterday (defending her right to be funny), if you know you don't like to read a certain kind of content, just click somewhere else.

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    santeewelding

    There was that one time, at the dark, back end of Tijuana, while young and drunk in the 60s, practicing my Mexican Spanish (I learned Castillian) I bought a street-vendor taco.

    The meat was suspiciously like what I thought to be feline. Probably was.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    like to play with, and eat, bugs.

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    TobiF

    If you don't want to eat bugs, then you shouldn't eat cats, neither. :)

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    Ha!

    Tink!

    Now that statement made me laugh.

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    _Papa_

    [Roaches, lizards, moles, non-descript animal-like remains*, carefully selected commercial cat foods (this is the most disgusting), Boar's Head Honey Smoked Turkey (before I can have a sandwich), spaghetti (my wife's recipe), and of course lasagna], it seems they would a highly nutritious meal.

    *This worries me, since he *is* a house cat.

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    AnsuGisalas

    and I talk too much.
    Or... I type text into these text fields on web pages too much... at least as far as preserving an air of mystery is concerned. And my sanity, whew, that's gone.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    Sanity is highly over-rated.

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    _Papa_

    can get you an early retirement!

    (or have I mentioned that?)

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    OH Smeg

    Always seems to happen long before retirement. When you work with Computers at the Hardware Level it's already happened.

    Working as a Help Desk Tech just means that you never had any Sanity to begin with.

    What happens after retirement isn't a loss of something you have already lost it's just a far more noticeable deterioration of the existing complaint.

    Or so I've been told by Medical Professionals. :0

    Col