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removing internet connection from one PC in network

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removing internet connection from one PC in network

ejbarkon
3 pcs networked peer-to-peer through dlink rounter - one 98, one XP and one Vista. Would like to take away the ability of the 98 pc to get to the internet, but still keep it as part of the lan (it does the printing and scanning).
Suggestions?
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    OH Smeg

    Uninstall the Browser/s probably.

    Doesn't actually prevent a Net connection but if there is nothing to use on the net it's not an issue any longer.

    You Can remove Firefox through the Add Remove Programs in the Control panel as well as IE5 upward. If this has the original version of IE you will need to enter the Add Remove Windows Components on the left hand side of the Add Remove Programs Window to remove it.

    Col

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    ejbarkon

    Tried that - but I need to remove the connection, besides the browser, there are other programs that run out to the internet to update themselves - I can shut down some (antivirus / music stuff /quicktime...) but I probably won't find them all...I'll give it a try, though if nothing else works. (That's better than unplugging the modem every time I need to print or get files from the 98 pc)

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    Jacky Howe

    Open IE, Tools, Internet Options, Connection Settings and LAN Settings.
    <br>
    Check the Proxy Server and Enter localhost for the address click advanced.
    <br>
    Check the box for Use same proxy server for all protocols.
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    ejbarkon

    Thanks, I think that worked. I tried all the different ways to get TO the internet that I could think of - and couldn't get there!!!

    Does that mean nothing incoming as well (I hope)?

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    OH Smeg

    Just a thought here.

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    Jacky Howe

    as you are only stopping internet access not local area access.

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    ejbarkon

    I can print from the vista, share files with the XP, etc.

    I've always had to take files from the 98 pc (versus saving them on another computer), I'm not really sure why that is.

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    Jacky Howe

    How to set up file sharing on Windows 98

    Click on the Start button, and then select Settings > Control Panel.
    Double-click on the Network icon. In the window that appears, make sure the Configuration tab is selected. If you do not see the Network icon, click on the view all Control Panel options link on the left side of the window.
    In The following network components are installed: section, if you do not see File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks listed, then:
    Click Add.
    Select Service and then click Add.
    Select File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks.
    Click OK.
    In the same window, click on the File and Print Sharing button.
    In the dialog box that appears, check the box next to "I want to be able to give others access to my files". Uncheck the box for "I want to be able to allow other to print to my printers".


    Click OK, then OK again; you will be asked to restart your computer. Click Yes to restart. The computer will automatically restart.
    File sharing is now available on the computer.
    II. Setting up the folder that will be shared

    To specify a particular folder you want to share, follow these steps. These steps can be repeated for multiple folders if, for example, a certain folder must be shared with only one group of people and another folder with another group of people, using different passwords. Note: Only folders may be shared, not individual files, i.e. if you wish to share a file named blue.doc, then you must put blue.doc inside a folder and then share that folder by following the directions below.

    Locate the folder to be shared.
    Right-click on the folder icon and choose Sharing from the menu that appears.


    In the Sharing tab, select Shared As.
    Folders have 3 possible levels of access to choose from.

    Read-Only - allows others to read, but not make changes to the folder. If you select this option, choose a password for the folder and type it into the Read-only Password: field.
    Full - gives others full access to the folder--i.e., they can both read and make changes to it. If you select this option, choose a password for the folder and type it into the Full Access Password field.
    Depends on Password - If you want some people to have read-only access but others to have full access to the folder, you can maintain two passwords, one for read-only access and the other for full access. If you select this option, choose two passwords, and type each password into the appropriate box.
    Note: The passwords show up as strings of *s; this is just for security, and the actual passwords are whatever you typed in, not strings of *s.

    Click OK.
    Windows will ask you to confirm the passwords so make sure to take note of them and keep them in a private place.
    The folder icon will now change into a folder resting on an arm indicating that it is being shared.
    The computer will now appear as an icon in Network Neighborhood for Windows 98 and in My Network Places for Windows Me/2000/XP on any Windows PC on the network. Its name will be your username, unless it's been changed it to something else. Anyone who knows the password(s) will be able to access the folder(s) set up for sharing, so be careful about giving out the passwords. Make sure the users who are given the passwords know the importance of keeping them secure.


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    How to check which folders are shared
    Log in to another computer (Windows 98, 2000, or XP) that is connected to the network.
    Find the list of networked computers:
    In Windows 98, double-click on Network Neighborhood.
    In Windows 2000, double-click on My Network Places > Entire Network > entire contents > Microsoft Windows Network > .
    In Windows XP, double-click on My Network Places > Entire Network (the link is on left side of the window) > Microsoft Windows Network > .
    Find the name of your computer and double-click on it. The name of your computer should be your user name unless you have changed it to something else. The folders that appear are all the folders that are on share on your computer.

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    ---TK---

    Statically assign the PC's. On the PC that you don't want to access the net, remove the GATEWAY address.

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    ejbarkon

    believe it or not, I tried that and still got to and from internet (even after rebooting) - as later post says you need to tell the router to block....I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it works)

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    straightp

    there might be a setting in your router that would allow you to block it. If it was cisco you could for sure but home edition routers dont give as much freedom.

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    ejbarkon

    Thanks anyway

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    LarryD4

    Either tell the dlink to reserve the ip for the Win98 PC or statically assign it.

    Once you have the ip static, tell the Dlink router to block all outbound network traffic for that PC.

    Almost all broadband routers will do it.

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    ejbarkon

    I tried assigning a static ip (according to dlink's website, but they didn't say anything about telling the router to block...figures...
    Does it block the inbound traffic as well?

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    LarryD4

    Whats the model of the Dlink?

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    ejbarkon

    WBR 1310

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    dgennello

    If you configure it for a static IP and do not put in a gateway, it will still see everything in the work group, but not see outside the LAN

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    Forum Surfer

    But I always liked setting the proxy to 0.0.0.0 and removing the option to chage it through group or even local policy. I forgot everything about win98 though! Can't remember any of my domain or policy tricks o 98. I do that for public access pc's then lock them down through group policy so that the only option on the start menu is the one needed app and the log off button. I further lock it down by only allowing that particular user and my "pc administrator" group members to sign on. USB is disabled also, along with anything other tha the c: drive.

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    OH Smeg

    Uninstall the Browser/s probably.

    Doesn't actually prevent a Net connection but if there is nothing to use on the net it's not an issue any longer.

    You Can remove Firefox through the Add Remove Programs in the Control panel as well as IE5 upward. If this has the original version of IE you will need to enter the Add Remove Windows Components on the left hand side of the Add Remove Programs Window to remove it.

    Col

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    ejbarkon

    Tried that - but I need to remove the connection, besides the browser, there are other programs that run out to the internet to update themselves - I can shut down some (antivirus / music stuff /quicktime...) but I probably won't find them all...I'll give it a try, though if nothing else works. (That's better than unplugging the modem every time I need to print or get files from the 98 pc)

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    Jacky Howe

    Open IE, Tools, Internet Options, Connection Settings and LAN Settings.
    <br>
    Check the Proxy Server and Enter localhost for the address click advanced.
    <br>
    Check the box for Use same proxy server for all protocols.
    <br><br>
    <i>Keep us informed as to your progress if you require further assistance.</i>
    <br><br>
    <i>If you think that any of the posts that have been made by all TR Members, have solved or contributed to solving the problem, please Mark them as <b>Helpful</b> so that others may benefit from the outcome.
    </i>

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    ejbarkon

    Thanks, I think that worked. I tried all the different ways to get TO the internet that I could think of - and couldn't get there!!!

    Does that mean nothing incoming as well (I hope)?

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    OH Smeg

    Just a thought here.

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    Jacky Howe

    as you are only stopping internet access not local area access.

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    ejbarkon

    I can print from the vista, share files with the XP, etc.

    I've always had to take files from the 98 pc (versus saving them on another computer), I'm not really sure why that is.

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    Jacky Howe

    How to set up file sharing on Windows 98

    Click on the Start button, and then select Settings > Control Panel.
    Double-click on the Network icon. In the window that appears, make sure the Configuration tab is selected. If you do not see the Network icon, click on the view all Control Panel options link on the left side of the window.
    In The following network components are installed: section, if you do not see File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks listed, then:
    Click Add.
    Select Service and then click Add.
    Select File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks.
    Click OK.
    In the same window, click on the File and Print Sharing button.
    In the dialog box that appears, check the box next to "I want to be able to give others access to my files". Uncheck the box for "I want to be able to allow other to print to my printers".


    Click OK, then OK again; you will be asked to restart your computer. Click Yes to restart. The computer will automatically restart.
    File sharing is now available on the computer.
    II. Setting up the folder that will be shared

    To specify a particular folder you want to share, follow these steps. These steps can be repeated for multiple folders if, for example, a certain folder must be shared with only one group of people and another folder with another group of people, using different passwords. Note: Only folders may be shared, not individual files, i.e. if you wish to share a file named blue.doc, then you must put blue.doc inside a folder and then share that folder by following the directions below.

    Locate the folder to be shared.
    Right-click on the folder icon and choose Sharing from the menu that appears.


    In the Sharing tab, select Shared As.
    Folders have 3 possible levels of access to choose from.

    Read-Only - allows others to read, but not make changes to the folder. If you select this option, choose a password for the folder and type it into the Read-only Password: field.
    Full - gives others full access to the folder--i.e., they can both read and make changes to it. If you select this option, choose a password for the folder and type it into the Full Access Password field.
    Depends on Password - If you want some people to have read-only access but others to have full access to the folder, you can maintain two passwords, one for read-only access and the other for full access. If you select this option, choose two passwords, and type each password into the appropriate box.
    Note: The passwords show up as strings of *s; this is just for security, and the actual passwords are whatever you typed in, not strings of *s.

    Click OK.
    Windows will ask you to confirm the passwords so make sure to take note of them and keep them in a private place.
    The folder icon will now change into a folder resting on an arm indicating that it is being shared.
    The computer will now appear as an icon in Network Neighborhood for Windows 98 and in My Network Places for Windows Me/2000/XP on any Windows PC on the network. Its name will be your username, unless it's been changed it to something else. Anyone who knows the password(s) will be able to access the folder(s) set up for sharing, so be careful about giving out the passwords. Make sure the users who are given the passwords know the importance of keeping them secure.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    How to check which folders are shared
    Log in to another computer (Windows 98, 2000, or XP) that is connected to the network.
    Find the list of networked computers:
    In Windows 98, double-click on Network Neighborhood.
    In Windows 2000, double-click on My Network Places > Entire Network > entire contents > Microsoft Windows Network > .
    In Windows XP, double-click on My Network Places > Entire Network (the link is on left side of the window) > Microsoft Windows Network > .
    Find the name of your computer and double-click on it. The name of your computer should be your user name unless you have changed it to something else. The folders that appear are all the folders that are on share on your computer.

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    ---TK---

    Statically assign the PC's. On the PC that you don't want to access the net, remove the GATEWAY address.

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    0 Votes
    ejbarkon

    believe it or not, I tried that and still got to and from internet (even after rebooting) - as later post says you need to tell the router to block....I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it works)

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    straightp

    there might be a setting in your router that would allow you to block it. If it was cisco you could for sure but home edition routers dont give as much freedom.

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    ejbarkon

    Thanks anyway

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    LarryD4

    Either tell the dlink to reserve the ip for the Win98 PC or statically assign it.

    Once you have the ip static, tell the Dlink router to block all outbound network traffic for that PC.

    Almost all broadband routers will do it.

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    ejbarkon

    I tried assigning a static ip (according to dlink's website, but they didn't say anything about telling the router to block...figures...
    Does it block the inbound traffic as well?

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    LarryD4

    Whats the model of the Dlink?

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    ejbarkon

    WBR 1310

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    dgennello

    If you configure it for a static IP and do not put in a gateway, it will still see everything in the work group, but not see outside the LAN

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    Forum Surfer

    But I always liked setting the proxy to 0.0.0.0 and removing the option to chage it through group or even local policy. I forgot everything about win98 though! Can't remember any of my domain or policy tricks o 98. I do that for public access pc's then lock them down through group policy so that the only option on the start menu is the one needed app and the log off button. I further lock it down by only allowing that particular user and my "pc administrator" group members to sign on. USB is disabled also, along with anything other tha the c: drive.