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criticalstate
Hi, Normally I find all the answers for problems by looking at these types of sites but the issue I am currently having needs an explianation to find the sloution, so please bare with me while I ramble on.

Ok I moved to Cyprus from the Uk about 6 month ago, just before I left I brought a Belkin Wireless G router so that I could share my files and internet connection from my main PC to my laptop.

In Cyprus things are a little different, backward some might argue.
My service provider has installed a wirless speedtouch router but have turned the wirless feature off and I am unable to get into the routers control panel as the ISP have set a password and will not allow access.

I tried to get my ISP to give me all the configureation info so that I could configure my Belkin router and use that instead of the Speedtouch that I dont have permissions for. However my ISP have said that they do not know some of settings I am requesting and tell me that setting over here are different and are not compatable with my Belkin Router. I really want wirless conectivity. I asked my ISP could they unlock their Speedtouch Routers settings so that I can enable wirless conectivity, they have refused and incist that they dont support this feature in anyway currently.

I did come with a solution and it did work for a while, I have two Ethernet adapters on my main PC so I set the top connection to the speed touch Modem which is also my defult internet connection. The bottom connection was connected to my wirless enabled Belkin router. This aloud me share files between computers but did not alow me to share the interent connection for soemreason? I was However able to share the internet connection by changing the bottom conections IP address to the same address as the Belkin Router, every thing was great for a few days but now more frequently I am getting a system error message saying that there is a conflict as 2 computers on the network are sharing the same IP. If I change the IP address I can have file sharing but no internet, I want both can you help?

Here Is my info for both connections:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Andy>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : main
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : lan

Ethernet adapter Top connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : lan
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-18-E1-4B-4D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.254
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 17 April 2007 17:32:56
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 18 April 2007 17:32:56

Ethernet adapter Bottom connection Wireless:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
rnet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-F4-56-B2-8D
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Critical\

I would be greatfull of any suggestions or guidance in this matter.


Many thanks inadvance

Critical

PS: Please excuse the poor spelling and grammer that I am sure is apparent.
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    Pringles86

    Changing the IP address of the Bottom adapter from:

    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    To:
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.2
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.254

    Then configure your second computers IP to be 10.3, with the same SM and DG.

    If that doesn't work you can always just go and buy a wireless access point.

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    MrGoochi

    Well I live in Cyprus too and i have the same problem.The thing is that i don't have a second router.Did you managed to unlock the Speedtouch?

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    abahou

    Here in Jordan they also introduced the same modems....i have the speedtouch 510 v6 and it's locked..you can't access using Administrator:blank. Jordan Telecom (ORANGE) replied to me saying that they locked it to becuase they had too many calls to their support center from clients who messedup their Modem configuration. How dumb is that! they should leave other options for experienced people. I don't want to buy a router.

    Please tell me if you found out how to unlock it!

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    Timbrewolf

    The second poster was absolutely correct - the reason you are running into trouble is because you're using different networks by using a different number on the third octet: 192.168.2.x is different from 192.168.1.x and they won't be able to see each other using a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask.

    If you can't change the second router to a 192.168.10.x address, you can try changing the subnet for the router and your LAN adapter to 255.255.0.0 and you should be able to talk between them.

    On the other hand, you should be able to find a way to replace their router with your own. Is the connection PPPoE (requires a username/password)? It may even be PPPoA.

    Most likely the reason the reason they're incompatible with other gateways (or modems) is because they're using an old PPPoA VPI/VCI.
    Most new routers come with a standard VPI/VCI of 8 and 35. PPPoA standard is 0 and 35. I haven't worked with Belkins too much but all modem gateways should have the ability to change the VPI/VCI to 0/35 if that's the issue.

    The wireless access point is another very simple solution as previously suggested.

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    Pringles86

    Changing the IP address of the Bottom adapter from:

    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    To:
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.2
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.254

    Then configure your second computers IP to be 10.3, with the same SM and DG.

    If that doesn't work you can always just go and buy a wireless access point.

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    MrGoochi

    Well I live in Cyprus too and i have the same problem.The thing is that i don't have a second router.Did you managed to unlock the Speedtouch?

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    abahou

    Here in Jordan they also introduced the same modems....i have the speedtouch 510 v6 and it's locked..you can't access using Administrator:blank. Jordan Telecom (ORANGE) replied to me saying that they locked it to becuase they had too many calls to their support center from clients who messedup their Modem configuration. How dumb is that! they should leave other options for experienced people. I don't want to buy a router.

    Please tell me if you found out how to unlock it!

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    Timbrewolf

    The second poster was absolutely correct - the reason you are running into trouble is because you're using different networks by using a different number on the third octet: 192.168.2.x is different from 192.168.1.x and they won't be able to see each other using a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask.

    If you can't change the second router to a 192.168.10.x address, you can try changing the subnet for the router and your LAN adapter to 255.255.0.0 and you should be able to talk between them.

    On the other hand, you should be able to find a way to replace their router with your own. Is the connection PPPoE (requires a username/password)? It may even be PPPoA.

    Most likely the reason the reason they're incompatible with other gateways (or modems) is because they're using an old PPPoA VPI/VCI.
    Most new routers come with a standard VPI/VCI of 8 and 35. PPPoA standard is 0 and 35. I haven't worked with Belkins too much but all modem gateways should have the ability to change the VPI/VCI to 0/35 if that's the issue.

    The wireless access point is another very simple solution as previously suggested.