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SATA Disk question

mikemc3
I have an older mainboard (Intel Desktop Board D845PEBT2) with a SATA 150 connection on it. I have always used IDE hard drives and not SATA drives. My currently installed IDE drive is dying (occasionally making a spinning clicking noise and recently I had to use a scandisk tool to recover the C-Drive of my computer), so the current disk is not "long for this world" :D.

Since I know nothing about SATA drives, can I purchase any SATA drive or do I need a specific kind because of the SATA 150 name? Also once I plug it in will my system recognize it and mount it as a secondary drive so I can do a file transfer from the old drive (I have an old Western Digital floppy based file/by/file transfer utility for replacing the system drive)?

I want to know before I spend my money on this.

Thank you.
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The SATA 150 means that the drive will have transfer speed of 150. While the second gen of drives have 300 upwards. So yes, you can get any sata drive for your computer, but remember that the speed will be at 150 instead of the listed speed on the new sata drive because of the limitaions on your motherboard.

Hope all goes well.

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OH Smeg

But depending on how the M'Board is configured you may be required to use SATA Drivers when you install the OS onto a New SATA Drive from the IDE Drive. You may not be able to use a Clone Utility and you defiantly will not be able to clone the IDE Drive to a SATA Drive and have it work.

The other thing is that as already mentioned this M'Board doesn't support the newest SATA 2 Conventions so the performance will be slower than a new SATA2 Drive can support.

Just make sure that you have the Intel CD available when you install the New Drive just in case you require the SATA Driver on it. However if you are installing the OS you may need the SATA Driver copied to the Root of a Floppy to install it.

Col

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mikemc3

Cool, thank you.
So I will not be able to do a bit-by-bit copy from the IDE drive to the SATA drive. How about a disk image? I created an image of both my C and D partitions last night (both on same physical disk).

And why, since there both just hard-drives just with different connectors / transfer rates, or is it the transfer rates that make direct transfers from IDE to SATA not possible?

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OH Smeg

it may not work. This has nothing to do with the HDD Interface but the M'Board Controllers and how the Software addresses the Hardware. In every System the Hardware Default HDD is the HDD connected to IDE Chanel 1 as the Master and then works it way up to Chanel 1 Slave then Chanel 2 Master followed by Slave and finally any SATA HDD.

This is basic Hardware the IDE Drive is Always the Default Drive and if you have a M'Board that requires SATA Drivers and most of the older ones did a Clone of the HDD/Partition will not have the SATA Drivers Present so the System will fail to boot.

While you may get lucky if you can set the SATA to Native in BIOS it is far more likely that this will not work.

Also because of the Hardware if you where to load any OS onto the SATA Drive while there is a IDE Drive Attached the Basic files that get copied to the Root of the Default Boot Drive will no longer be present after that IDE Drive is removed so the very first files required to start the system will not be present.

It's all Hardware not anything to do with Software as such and how the BIOS is written to work with the Hardware that you have.

Col

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mikemc3

Thanks, I will goto my BIOS settings tonight and see if SATA is an option list of boot devices. From what you said it shouldn't be listed.

So I understand in summary your saying the SATA 150 controller on my mainboard is there strictly for a secondary drive and cannot be used to connect a SATA drive for use as a boot device.

/I only look stupid. See .. I can be taught

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Then you should be able to BOOT from the SATA drive if set through the BIOS. Sometimes you will have to do a few tweaks to activate it though.

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OH Smeg

You should be able to Boot from the SATA Drive though you may be required to install some SATA Driver when you install the OS.

But if you add or remove a IDE Drive after you install the OS to a SATA Drive the System will not boot.

IDE is always the Default Boot Device so the Hardware looks there First to find the Initial Files that point the system to the OS and way to load it.

So if you either add or remove a IDE Drive from the system after you install to a SATA Drive the Initial Boot Files will either no longer be there in the case of Removing the IDE Drive or will still be there but not seen if you add a IDE Drive.

Col