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Slave drive inaccessible

thechief
Ok, here we go. One of my people has a slave drive that he uses to store archived emails. We normally store them on the network but due to the massive amount of them, someone decided it was a good idea to store them on a sperate local drive and pray it doesn't die. Well guess what, it died. Upon boot up, it first came up with a "drive[the slave] needs to be checked" prompt. I let it go and that did not complete. I next rebooted and skipped that scan and that's when Windows froze while trying to boot up. I disconencted the archive drive and Windows came up. I'm now trying to revive the archive drive. I have a 3rd drive identical to the archive and recreated the situation, trying to copy the MBR from the good one to a file and deploy it onto the bad one. While the deploy went ok, the data won't come back. With the good MBR, the slave will come up in Windows with a drive letter, but says "needs to be formatted" and that would kinda defeat the purpose of recovery efforts. I have stared at this MBR for the past 3 days straight as to why the good drive's MBR works but not when copied to the slave. Again, they are the exact same model. Searching for backup MBRs with recovery programs finds nothing. I'm starting to think it's not the MBR at all. Can anyone give me any suggestions?
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    MechanicalPC

    Sounds like either a bad sector zero...or a dying read head...you could try putting the drive in the freezer for a couple of hours...have to work fast to get the data off...try spinning it counter clockwise...(seriously it works in many cases)...

    What data recovery programs have you tried?

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    ugadata

    You need to get "drive recovery software" and scan the drive for recoverable partitions and/or files.

    Handy recovery is one but there are many others

    http://www.handyrecovery.com/

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    Kenone

    What was the error message?

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    Snuffy09

    Its about 60 bucks tho

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    willcomp

    Try Microsoft DaRT 5.0 which is ERD Commander 2005 renamed. The utility you need within ERD Commander is Disk Commander.

    Scratch that idea -- apparently M$ has removed it from their download site. It was a 30 day trial download. You might try Googling for ERD Commander.

    DaRT is part of the Desktop Optimization Pack which is available on TechNet and MSDN if you have a subscription to either one.

    Another good option is GetDataBack which I have used successfully a number of times.
    http://www.runtime.org/

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    OH Smeg

    But the solution isn't all that easy.

    When you transfered the MBR to this Old Drive you have effectively wiped it just as if you had formatted the Drive. If the system was not booting with this Slave Drive Attached that was because of Hardware errors not software and the MBR was not part of the problem it was a failing or failed HDD that was drawing something out which caused the Freeze to occur.

    What you should have done then was to remove the HDD and fit it to a USB or Firewire Enclosure then tried to copy whatever was on this drive to something a bit more permanent. Now however if this is Important Data you really should send the HDD to a Data Recovery House that is capable of dismantling the drive and reading directly off the Platters. The only company that I know that can do this is On Track and you had better believe that it's going to cost you a pretty penny into the bargain.

    Now if this would just be Nice to recover then you can attack the drive with one of the many Data Recovery Applications that are available but as I said previously if this is Important Data that Must Be recovered you need to send it to a Data Recovery House instead of messing with it. If you make things any worse you run the risk of never being able to recover anything off this Drive and the more that you do now the More Expensive the Recovery will end up costing and most likely even then it will be Incomplete.

    Now if you understand that and want to proceed with some Data Recovery Software here is a short list of the better ones available though by no means a complete list.

    http://tinyurl.com/273ay5

    http://tinyurl.com/rmvrv

    http://tinyurl.com/yvrsl

    http://tinyurl.com/yyk8cm

    http://tinyurl.com/382vm

    http://tinyurl.com/ynwnel

    http://tinyurl.com/nc4kx

    http://tinyurl.com/2wox7l

    http://tinyurl.com/374d8b

    http://tinyurl.com/djw6u

    http://tinyurl.com/f73se

    http://tinyurl.com/8bd3f

    http://tinyurl.com/afu2j

    While the last 2 are from the same company they are very different products. Win Hex should only be considered for use by someone who knows Hex Inside Out while Davory is a great cheap General Purpose Application.

    Personally I prefer the On Track Option but it's anything but cheap. However because I use this type of software a lot it's paid for itself many times over by now, for a cheaper option Spin Rite from Gibson Research or Stella have both very good reputations by other TR members.

    There is also the possibility of doing a full Forensic Recovery but this involves the destruction of the Drive and the only places that I know of that do it are Government Data Recovery Places who perform this type of work to recover deleted Evidence generally for Criminal Proceedings through the courts. They dismantle the Drive coat the Platters with some green Goop then place the platters after the Goop has dried into a special Machine that will recover every layer of data ever written to the Platters if the Magnetic Covering is Intact. If the data is really Important this may be your only option but you better believe it's not cheap and should only be considered as a Last Resort but if you want to try this be prepared for at least a $500,000.00 Price Tag if not considerably more.

    Col

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    MechanicalPC

    Sounds like either a bad sector zero...or a dying read head...you could try putting the drive in the freezer for a couple of hours...have to work fast to get the data off...try spinning it counter clockwise...(seriously it works in many cases)...

    What data recovery programs have you tried?

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    ugadata

    You need to get "drive recovery software" and scan the drive for recoverable partitions and/or files.

    Handy recovery is one but there are many others

    http://www.handyrecovery.com/

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    Kenone

    What was the error message?

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    Snuffy09

    Its about 60 bucks tho

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    willcomp

    Try Microsoft DaRT 5.0 which is ERD Commander 2005 renamed. The utility you need within ERD Commander is Disk Commander.

    Scratch that idea -- apparently M$ has removed it from their download site. It was a 30 day trial download. You might try Googling for ERD Commander.

    DaRT is part of the Desktop Optimization Pack which is available on TechNet and MSDN if you have a subscription to either one.

    Another good option is GetDataBack which I have used successfully a number of times.
    http://www.runtime.org/

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    OH Smeg

    But the solution isn't all that easy.

    When you transfered the MBR to this Old Drive you have effectively wiped it just as if you had formatted the Drive. If the system was not booting with this Slave Drive Attached that was because of Hardware errors not software and the MBR was not part of the problem it was a failing or failed HDD that was drawing something out which caused the Freeze to occur.

    What you should have done then was to remove the HDD and fit it to a USB or Firewire Enclosure then tried to copy whatever was on this drive to something a bit more permanent. Now however if this is Important Data you really should send the HDD to a Data Recovery House that is capable of dismantling the drive and reading directly off the Platters. The only company that I know that can do this is On Track and you had better believe that it's going to cost you a pretty penny into the bargain.

    Now if this would just be Nice to recover then you can attack the drive with one of the many Data Recovery Applications that are available but as I said previously if this is Important Data that Must Be recovered you need to send it to a Data Recovery House instead of messing with it. If you make things any worse you run the risk of never being able to recover anything off this Drive and the more that you do now the More Expensive the Recovery will end up costing and most likely even then it will be Incomplete.

    Now if you understand that and want to proceed with some Data Recovery Software here is a short list of the better ones available though by no means a complete list.

    http://tinyurl.com/273ay5

    http://tinyurl.com/rmvrv

    http://tinyurl.com/yvrsl

    http://tinyurl.com/yyk8cm

    http://tinyurl.com/382vm

    http://tinyurl.com/ynwnel

    http://tinyurl.com/nc4kx

    http://tinyurl.com/2wox7l

    http://tinyurl.com/374d8b

    http://tinyurl.com/djw6u

    http://tinyurl.com/f73se

    http://tinyurl.com/8bd3f

    http://tinyurl.com/afu2j

    While the last 2 are from the same company they are very different products. Win Hex should only be considered for use by someone who knows Hex Inside Out while Davory is a great cheap General Purpose Application.

    Personally I prefer the On Track Option but it's anything but cheap. However because I use this type of software a lot it's paid for itself many times over by now, for a cheaper option Spin Rite from Gibson Research or Stella have both very good reputations by other TR members.

    There is also the possibility of doing a full Forensic Recovery but this involves the destruction of the Drive and the only places that I know of that do it are Government Data Recovery Places who perform this type of work to recover deleted Evidence generally for Criminal Proceedings through the courts. They dismantle the Drive coat the Platters with some green Goop then place the platters after the Goop has dried into a special Machine that will recover every layer of data ever written to the Platters if the Magnetic Covering is Intact. If the data is really Important this may be your only option but you better believe it's not cheap and should only be considered as a Last Resort but if you want to try this be prepared for at least a $500,000.00 Price Tag if not considerably more.

    Col