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Vista registry edits ineffective

lvolkjr
I have an Acer Aspire 6920 with Windows Vista Home Premium and I made a couple of registry edits. The edits were ineffective. One of the edits I did was this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930526. I tried the same on another vista machine and they worked fine.

Why don't these work, is there a security setting that I am messing or override of some sort? Is the Acer pre-installed software hindering my edits?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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    TheChas

    The first thought that comes to mind is if Windows Media Center is installed and enabled on the Acer?

    If media center is not enabled, then enabling the DVD Library is not going to do anything.

    Chas

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    lvolkjr

    Yes, it is installed and enabled. I didn't know that it could be disabled. I know when I open up media center it doesn't show DVD Gallery or if I switch the registry edit back to the original setting it doesn't show Play DVD. If there is a setting that I need to enable to get it to show up in the Media Center menu where is that setting?

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    Download the updates from Microsoft's website, this should rectify the problem.
    Or get Vista Ultimate.

    Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.
    If this information is useful, please mark as helpful. Thanks.

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    lvolkjr

    There were no updates needed. Why would I need to get Vista Ultimate if Home Premium has what I need? I really think there is some extra software that Acer installed that is hindering the results. I wish I could figure this out. Thanks for the try.

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    ThumbsUp2

    Please remember, computer manufacturer's don't necessarily install all options of the OS when they build the PC. The OEM version of Vista Home Premium, which is a watered-down version of Windows supplied by Acer, probably doesn't have what you're looking for. Chances are, they've stuck some other software on the computer which probably came with the drive and supposedly does the same thing, only different.

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    lvolkjr

    I believe your right. I don't suppose there is any way I could get the full functionality of the software without going out and buying a full version of Home Premium?

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    ThumbsUp2

    ... but you can Call Acer and ask.

    While you have them on the phone, complain heavily about not receiving what you thought you were buying. ]:)

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    Jacky Howe

    try it this way and then make your edits to the Registry. It is probably as Thumbs has said though Acer has probably decided what is best for you. Disable UAC in Windows Vista Home (or Home Premium) and see if your settings take precedence by giving the Key a value of 0.
    <br><br>

    Click Start, Run and type regedt32 and press Enter.
    <br>
    Using the menu in the left pane, you must navigate to the section of the Registry holding the Registry Keys that configure UAC.
    <br>
    Select HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
    <br><br>

    There are a variety of Registry Keys related to various UAC functions. The one that has the most direct and significant impact for a home user running as an Administrator on Windows Vista Home though is <b>ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin.</b>
    If you double-click this key, you will be able to change the value of the DWord associated with it. There are three possible values you can use:
    <br><br>

    0 = Do not prompt. Setting this value to zero effectively disables UAC and allows programs and tasks to execute without first requiring consent to elevate privileges
    <br>
    1 = Prompt for credentials. When this key is set to '1', UAC will prompt for user credentials- a username and password- rather than simply asking for consent. This is a higher level of security than the standard UAC consent because it requires entering a password for a valid, authorized account each time.
    <br>
    2 = Prompt for consent. This is the default setting. When UAC is set to prompt for consent, any action or execution that requires elevated administrative privileges will result in the darkened screen and UAC pop-up to verify consent before proceeding.
    <br><br>
    <i>Keep us informed as to your progress if you require further assistance.</i>
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    lvolkjr

    No, that didn't work either. I even tried to reboot and try it again. Then I tried to do it in safemode but to no avail. I think ThumbsUp2 hit the nail on the head when he/she said that acer probably gave me a watered down version of Vista.

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    Jacky Howe

    and you get to have all the extras that are not required as well. It was worth a shot.

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    lvolkjr

    I finally figure out how to get "dvd library" to show up. After I did the above MS Registry edit I had to go back into the registry to edit another portion. I went to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Start Menu and change HideDVD to a value of 0 (mine was set to 1).

    That showed me "dvd library", unfortunately it doesn't show me my watched folders. I only see what's in the dvd drive and the short clips that come with Vista. Does anyone know of any other registry edits I might have to make?

    Why does Acer make this so hard, I don't think I'll ever buy another Acer.

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    http://www.dcsoft.com/products/regeditx/

    Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.
    If this information is useful, please mark as helpful. Thanks.

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    lvolkjr

    I finally figured it out! I went my other machine that was working properly and did a stare and compare to between that and the Acer. I went to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\MediaFolders there is a folder for Image, Movie, and Video. I had no Movie folder. After I added the "Movie" folder it automatically adds a "String Value" called "(Default)" with value not set.

    Next I added a "String Value" called "Folder0" set the Value box to the path of where my movies are stored i.e."c:\dvds". Finally, I added a "DWORD (32-bit) Value" with the name of "FolderCount" and a data value of "1". Do not use any parentheses, those were used to highlight names and values.

    I hope this helpful, remember serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. For added protection, back up the registry before you modify it. Then, you can restore the registry if a problem occurs. For more information about how to back up and restore the registry http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322756/

    Thanks to everyone who helped with this.

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    Ekline

    Any time you modify a Registry entry you must restart before using the application that you decided to run.

    Otherwise you'll run into the issue of having your entry overwritten. On some occasions you'll have to add a new registry key to the "hklm\software\microso...\windows\curre\RUNONCE" folder to execute a batch file that will append your Registry entry.

    Export the Registry entry you made and try placing a new key in the runonce folder to run the Registry entry at startup.

    It has nothing to do with ACER, it's just Windows.

    If you watch "REGMON," a SysInternals(www.sysinternals.com) application that monitors registry activity, you'll understand what I mean. Thousands of registry entries within 5 seconds.

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    lvolkjr

    I did restart every time I edited the registry. Sorry if I didn't mentioned that, I guess I thought that was a given.

    I don't understand why I would need to export the entries I made only to have them put back in at start up via runonce when it works fine the way I did it.

    I think if anything were to be automatic it would be this: after you did the registry edit from MS(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930526) you would go into Library Settings in Media Center and add the folders to be watched. Then let it do it's thing and you would find those entries in your registry. I tried that and it didn't do that. If it's suppose to do that, then maybe there is another registry entry to be modified.

    This is Acer's fault, they are the only computers that don't show the dvd library(that I have worked with) even after you make the registry edit from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930526.

    Thanks for your input, it does get me thinking.

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    TheChas

    The first thought that comes to mind is if Windows Media Center is installed and enabled on the Acer?

    If media center is not enabled, then enabling the DVD Library is not going to do anything.

    Chas

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    lvolkjr

    Yes, it is installed and enabled. I didn't know that it could be disabled. I know when I open up media center it doesn't show DVD Gallery or if I switch the registry edit back to the original setting it doesn't show Play DVD. If there is a setting that I need to enable to get it to show up in the Media Center menu where is that setting?

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    Download the updates from Microsoft's website, this should rectify the problem.
    Or get Vista Ultimate.

    Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.
    If this information is useful, please mark as helpful. Thanks.

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    lvolkjr

    There were no updates needed. Why would I need to get Vista Ultimate if Home Premium has what I need? I really think there is some extra software that Acer installed that is hindering the results. I wish I could figure this out. Thanks for the try.

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    ThumbsUp2

    Please remember, computer manufacturer's don't necessarily install all options of the OS when they build the PC. The OEM version of Vista Home Premium, which is a watered-down version of Windows supplied by Acer, probably doesn't have what you're looking for. Chances are, they've stuck some other software on the computer which probably came with the drive and supposedly does the same thing, only different.

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    lvolkjr

    I believe your right. I don't suppose there is any way I could get the full functionality of the software without going out and buying a full version of Home Premium?

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    ThumbsUp2

    ... but you can Call Acer and ask.

    While you have them on the phone, complain heavily about not receiving what you thought you were buying. ]:)

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    Jacky Howe

    try it this way and then make your edits to the Registry. It is probably as Thumbs has said though Acer has probably decided what is best for you. Disable UAC in Windows Vista Home (or Home Premium) and see if your settings take precedence by giving the Key a value of 0.
    <br><br>

    Click Start, Run and type regedt32 and press Enter.
    <br>
    Using the menu in the left pane, you must navigate to the section of the Registry holding the Registry Keys that configure UAC.
    <br>
    Select HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
    <br><br>

    There are a variety of Registry Keys related to various UAC functions. The one that has the most direct and significant impact for a home user running as an Administrator on Windows Vista Home though is <b>ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin.</b>
    If you double-click this key, you will be able to change the value of the DWord associated with it. There are three possible values you can use:
    <br><br>

    0 = Do not prompt. Setting this value to zero effectively disables UAC and allows programs and tasks to execute without first requiring consent to elevate privileges
    <br>
    1 = Prompt for credentials. When this key is set to '1', UAC will prompt for user credentials- a username and password- rather than simply asking for consent. This is a higher level of security than the standard UAC consent because it requires entering a password for a valid, authorized account each time.
    <br>
    2 = Prompt for consent. This is the default setting. When UAC is set to prompt for consent, any action or execution that requires elevated administrative privileges will result in the darkened screen and UAC pop-up to verify consent before proceeding.
    <br><br>
    <i>Keep us informed as to your progress if you require further assistance.</i>
    <br><br>
    <font size="2"><i>If you think that any of the posts that have been made by all TR Members, have solved or contributed to solving the problem, please Mark them as <b>Helpful</b> so that others may benefit from the outcome.
    </i></font>

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    lvolkjr

    No, that didn't work either. I even tried to reboot and try it again. Then I tried to do it in safemode but to no avail. I think ThumbsUp2 hit the nail on the head when he/she said that acer probably gave me a watered down version of Vista.

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    Jacky Howe

    and you get to have all the extras that are not required as well. It was worth a shot.

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    lvolkjr

    I finally figure out how to get "dvd library" to show up. After I did the above MS Registry edit I had to go back into the registry to edit another portion. I went to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Start Menu and change HideDVD to a value of 0 (mine was set to 1).

    That showed me "dvd library", unfortunately it doesn't show me my watched folders. I only see what's in the dvd drive and the short clips that come with Vista. Does anyone know of any other registry edits I might have to make?

    Why does Acer make this so hard, I don't think I'll ever buy another Acer.

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    http://www.dcsoft.com/products/regeditx/

    Please post back if you have any more problems or questions.
    If this information is useful, please mark as helpful. Thanks.

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    lvolkjr

    I finally figured it out! I went my other machine that was working properly and did a stare and compare to between that and the Acer. I went to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\MediaFolders there is a folder for Image, Movie, and Video. I had no Movie folder. After I added the "Movie" folder it automatically adds a "String Value" called "(Default)" with value not set.

    Next I added a "String Value" called "Folder0" set the Value box to the path of where my movies are stored i.e."c:\dvds". Finally, I added a "DWORD (32-bit) Value" with the name of "FolderCount" and a data value of "1". Do not use any parentheses, those were used to highlight names and values.

    I hope this helpful, remember serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. For added protection, back up the registry before you modify it. Then, you can restore the registry if a problem occurs. For more information about how to back up and restore the registry http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322756/

    Thanks to everyone who helped with this.

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    Ekline

    Any time you modify a Registry entry you must restart before using the application that you decided to run.

    Otherwise you'll run into the issue of having your entry overwritten. On some occasions you'll have to add a new registry key to the "hklm\software\microso...\windows\curre\RUNONCE" folder to execute a batch file that will append your Registry entry.

    Export the Registry entry you made and try placing a new key in the runonce folder to run the Registry entry at startup.

    It has nothing to do with ACER, it's just Windows.

    If you watch "REGMON," a SysInternals(www.sysinternals.com) application that monitors registry activity, you'll understand what I mean. Thousands of registry entries within 5 seconds.

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    lvolkjr

    I did restart every time I edited the registry. Sorry if I didn't mentioned that, I guess I thought that was a given.

    I don't understand why I would need to export the entries I made only to have them put back in at start up via runonce when it works fine the way I did it.

    I think if anything were to be automatic it would be this: after you did the registry edit from MS(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930526) you would go into Library Settings in Media Center and add the folders to be watched. Then let it do it's thing and you would find those entries in your registry. I tried that and it didn't do that. If it's suppose to do that, then maybe there is another registry entry to be modified.

    This is Acer's fault, they are the only computers that don't show the dvd library(that I have worked with) even after you make the registry edit from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930526.

    Thanks for your input, it does get me thinking.