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Vista/XP Dual Boot Disaster - HELP!

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Vista/XP Dual Boot Disaster - HELP!

figmentmitty68
I recently purchased an HP laptop computer with Vista pre-installed. Immediately, I proceeded to install a dual boot for XP, as I still need programs that don't co-habitate with Vista. Partitioning went fine, so did the initial XP installation. I used VistaBootPro to fix the bootloader, and now everything has gone south.

Vista won't load at all, and VistaBootPro tells me it can't open without an admin account and it's not recognizing mine as one (I only have one, so-far-un-passworded account set up).

I made the computer-restore disks for Vista, but they won't boot up, and I can't get to the emergency-restore partition that came with the computer. Since I can't get into Vista, I can't use Vista's tools to undo this whole mess. I feel like a noob, but I just did this (successfully and without hassle) just a few months ago on a nearly-identical laptop.

I don't really care what happened, but how do I fix this corrupt bootloader? HELP!
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    Have you tried to load xp onto your laptop and then load Vista, i have not tried this so i do not know if it would work. Did your laptop came with a bootable disk so that you could at least get to the partion or re-partion to the the factory default system?.
    Have you tried to load the VistaBootpro again and made another Admin account so that you can access your computer?.

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    figmentmitty68

    Unfortunately, the laptop didn't come with bootable disks, and the backup disks I made are not booting (or not bootable). I can try uninstalling/reinstalling VistaBootPro again, and I'll try making an Admin account.

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    maharris1957

    Can you go into "safe mode" in the XP partition? If you can there is a way to take the admin password off so that the advanced boot option will not ask for it in order for you to get into XP.

    Mike

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    figmentmitty68

    I can try to get into Safe mode. It's dicey - sometimes even XP seems not to want to load.

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    maharris1957

    If you can get the computer to start XP in 'safe mode,' follow these steps to reset the admin password.

    click on Start, then click "run." Then type the following command: "control userpasswords2." Once you type this command, you will get a window with all the user accounts for the comp. Click on the user account and reset the password.

    However, if you get to the advanced boot menu, the computer still may ask you for admin password in order to boot into XP in safe mode. I did a dual boot of both XP and Vista a while back, and had the same problem you are having. I ended up taking Vista right off my machine. Don't need it at all. It's mostly "bells and whistles" anyway! And if I decide to upgrade it in the future, then I will do a clean install of Vista. Most of the driver upgrades are available now anyway.

    This problem may be rectified with Micro brings out the first service pack for Vista this fall, but don't hold your breath.

    Mike

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    sgt_shultz

    Did you see this:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/en-us
    Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration

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    http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
    easy program to use and lets you modify bootloader in both Vista or XP.

    Michael L Hereid Sr

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    maharris1957

    I had this program when I had the dual boot, and I still was required to enter the admin pw for XP. I have taken Vista off the desktop, and am not interested in it any time soon. Perhaps when the 1st sp comes out.

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    ssummit

    I don't know if this will help your situation, but for a dual boot with XP and Vista, it's recommended that XP is installed on the PC before Vista is installed.

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    bkrateku

    My problem seemed to be backwards compared to most, but when I installed Vista, it killed my XP. I never could get XP up till I wiped off Vista, restored XP from a backup, then fixed the boot.ini file. For some reason, my boot.ini file and my Bluetooth driver didn't get reinstalled. At any rate, I haven't attempted Vista again, but I may this weekend and see if I get different results.

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    Dogcatcher

    For many years, I have used BootMagic (part of PowerQuest's PartitionMagic) to boot everything. It goes in a small DOS partition, along with some DOS utilities.

    Put XP, Vista, etc. in separate partitions. Do a floppy or CD boot and make sure DOS sees the partition you will install to as C:\. This way the OS will put all the boot files in the partition. If given a choice, have the installer put boot files in the partition rather than the boot sector of the drive. Only one boot loader's files can go there.

    When you are done setting up the OSs, go back to DOS and add the OSs to the BootMagic menu.

    Sidebar: For reasons not yet clear, BootMagic doesn't work on my newest computer. Maybe there's something about the dual-core, 64-bit architecture it can't handle.

    So, on the new machine, I install a copy of SuSE in an extended partition and let it install GRUB into the boot sector. During the installation you can modify the GRUB menu to your liking, i.e. "Vista" instead of Windows2. GRUB finds and boots everything I've tossed at it, from DOS 6.22 to x64 XP.

    Btw, GRUB in Fedora works just as well.

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    bkrateku

    I'm not versed in Linux much yet, although learning as I can, but it's my understanding that you could also install GRUB without installing a Linux installation. I haven't tried it, but heard it was possible. That kinda gives me an idea on what to do with mine...

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    Dogcatcher

    As you review articles on standalone GRUB, be sure to differentiate between those that discuss GRUB as the primary bootloader and those that expect GRUB to be loaded by, say, ntldr.

    If, when you install Linux, you mount /boot in a small primary partition, then GRUB (in /boot/grub) becomes somewhat independent of the distro that installed it. Fedora's version makes it relatively easy to edit GRUB's menu file from the boot menu screen. With GRUB in its own partition, you can delete the distro that installed it and still have a functioning bootloader.

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    lmiller222

    If you can't get the other options to work, you can contact HP and order the install disks for your Laptop. They will charge you $10 for your problems, but it will get you back up and going....


    Larry

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    jamesmondtan

    I have read a article someway before. whereby winxp must install 1st before install vista. It make me feel like w2k multiboot.

    I have 2 hardisk 3 partition in my pc. I got one disk with xp. i install second hardisk with vista. everything fine, only driver causing problem. ( but i manage to settle )
    Currently my only problem is asus wireless port. i realise if the 1st time i on pc into vista then the wireless working without problem. if i 1st on into xp. after restart my vista have no wireless connect. few time try also the same. but haven send sit6uation to asus.

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    ssummit

    I don't know if this will help your situation, but for a dual boot with XP and Vista, it's recommended that XP is installed on the PC before Vista is installed.

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    Dogcatcher

    For many years, I have used BootMagic (part of PowerQuest's PartitionMagic) to boot everything. It goes in a small DOS partition, along with some DOS utilities.

    Put XP, Vista, etc. in separate partitions. Do a floppy or CD boot and make sure DOS sees the partition you will install to as C:\. This way the OS will put all the boot files in the partition. If given a choice, have the installer put boot files in the partition rather than the boot sector of the drive. Only one boot loader's files can go there.

    When you are done setting up the OSs, go back to DOS and add the OSs to the BootMagic menu.

    Sidebar: For reasons not yet clear, BootMagic doesn't work on my newest computer. Maybe there's something about the dual-core, 64-bit architecture it can't handle.

    So, on the new machine, I install a copy of SuSE in an extended partition and let it install GRUB into the boot sector. During the installation you can modify the GRUB menu to your liking, i.e. "Vista" instead of Windows2. GRUB finds and boots everything I've tossed at it, from DOS 6.22 to x64 XP.

    Btw, GRUB in Fedora works just as well.

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    lmiller222

    If you can't get the other options to work, you can contact HP and order the install disks for your Laptop. They will charge you $10 for your problems, but it will get you back up and going....


    Larry

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    jamesmondtan

    I have read a article someway before. whereby winxp must install 1st before install vista. It make me feel like w2k multiboot.

    I have 2 hardisk 3 partition in my pc. I got one disk with xp. i install second hardisk with vista. everything fine, only driver causing problem. ( but i manage to settle )
    Currently my only problem is asus wireless port. i realise if the 1st time i on pc into vista then the wireless working without problem. if i 1st on into xp. after restart my vista have no wireless connect. few time try also the same. but haven send sit6uation to asus.

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    Have you tried to load xp onto your laptop and then load Vista, i have not tried this so i do not know if it would work. Did your laptop came with a bootable disk so that you could at least get to the partion or re-partion to the the factory default system?.
    Have you tried to load the VistaBootpro again and made another Admin account so that you can access your computer?.

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    figmentmitty68

    Unfortunately, the laptop didn't come with bootable disks, and the backup disks I made are not booting (or not bootable). I can try uninstalling/reinstalling VistaBootPro again, and I'll try making an Admin account.

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    maharris1957

    Can you go into "safe mode" in the XP partition? If you can there is a way to take the admin password off so that the advanced boot option will not ask for it in order for you to get into XP.

    Mike

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    figmentmitty68

    I can try to get into Safe mode. It's dicey - sometimes even XP seems not to want to load.

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    maharris1957

    If you can get the computer to start XP in 'safe mode,' follow these steps to reset the admin password.

    click on Start, then click "run." Then type the following command: "control userpasswords2." Once you type this command, you will get a window with all the user accounts for the comp. Click on the user account and reset the password.

    However, if you get to the advanced boot menu, the computer still may ask you for admin password in order to boot into XP in safe mode. I did a dual boot of both XP and Vista a while back, and had the same problem you are having. I ended up taking Vista right off my machine. Don't need it at all. It's mostly "bells and whistles" anyway! And if I decide to upgrade it in the future, then I will do a clean install of Vista. Most of the driver upgrades are available now anyway.

    This problem may be rectified with Micro brings out the first service pack for Vista this fall, but don't hold your breath.

    Mike

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    sgt_shultz

    Did you see this:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/en-us
    Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration

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    http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
    easy program to use and lets you modify bootloader in both Vista or XP.

    Michael L Hereid Sr

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    maharris1957

    I had this program when I had the dual boot, and I still was required to enter the admin pw for XP. I have taken Vista off the desktop, and am not interested in it any time soon. Perhaps when the 1st sp comes out.

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    ssummit

    I don't know if this will help your situation, but for a dual boot with XP and Vista, it's recommended that XP is installed on the PC before Vista is installed.

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    bkrateku

    My problem seemed to be backwards compared to most, but when I installed Vista, it killed my XP. I never could get XP up till I wiped off Vista, restored XP from a backup, then fixed the boot.ini file. For some reason, my boot.ini file and my Bluetooth driver didn't get reinstalled. At any rate, I haven't attempted Vista again, but I may this weekend and see if I get different results.

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    Dogcatcher

    For many years, I have used BootMagic (part of PowerQuest's PartitionMagic) to boot everything. It goes in a small DOS partition, along with some DOS utilities.

    Put XP, Vista, etc. in separate partitions. Do a floppy or CD boot and make sure DOS sees the partition you will install to as C:\. This way the OS will put all the boot files in the partition. If given a choice, have the installer put boot files in the partition rather than the boot sector of the drive. Only one boot loader's files can go there.

    When you are done setting up the OSs, go back to DOS and add the OSs to the BootMagic menu.

    Sidebar: For reasons not yet clear, BootMagic doesn't work on my newest computer. Maybe there's something about the dual-core, 64-bit architecture it can't handle.

    So, on the new machine, I install a copy of SuSE in an extended partition and let it install GRUB into the boot sector. During the installation you can modify the GRUB menu to your liking, i.e. "Vista" instead of Windows2. GRUB finds and boots everything I've tossed at it, from DOS 6.22 to x64 XP.

    Btw, GRUB in Fedora works just as well.

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    bkrateku

    I'm not versed in Linux much yet, although learning as I can, but it's my understanding that you could also install GRUB without installing a Linux installation. I haven't tried it, but heard it was possible. That kinda gives me an idea on what to do with mine...

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    Dogcatcher

    As you review articles on standalone GRUB, be sure to differentiate between those that discuss GRUB as the primary bootloader and those that expect GRUB to be loaded by, say, ntldr.

    If, when you install Linux, you mount /boot in a small primary partition, then GRUB (in /boot/grub) becomes somewhat independent of the distro that installed it. Fedora's version makes it relatively easy to edit GRUB's menu file from the boot menu screen. With GRUB in its own partition, you can delete the distro that installed it and still have a functioning bootloader.

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    lmiller222

    If you can't get the other options to work, you can contact HP and order the install disks for your Laptop. They will charge you $10 for your problems, but it will get you back up and going....


    Larry

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    jamesmondtan

    I have read a article someway before. whereby winxp must install 1st before install vista. It make me feel like w2k multiboot.

    I have 2 hardisk 3 partition in my pc. I got one disk with xp. i install second hardisk with vista. everything fine, only driver causing problem. ( but i manage to settle )
    Currently my only problem is asus wireless port. i realise if the 1st time i on pc into vista then the wireless working without problem. if i 1st on into xp. after restart my vista have no wireless connect. few time try also the same. but haven send sit6uation to asus.

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    ssummit

    I don't know if this will help your situation, but for a dual boot with XP and Vista, it's recommended that XP is installed on the PC before Vista is installed.

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    Dogcatcher

    For many years, I have used BootMagic (part of PowerQuest's PartitionMagic) to boot everything. It goes in a small DOS partition, along with some DOS utilities.

    Put XP, Vista, etc. in separate partitions. Do a floppy or CD boot and make sure DOS sees the partition you will install to as C:\. This way the OS will put all the boot files in the partition. If given a choice, have the installer put boot files in the partition rather than the boot sector of the drive. Only one boot loader's files can go there.

    When you are done setting up the OSs, go back to DOS and add the OSs to the BootMagic menu.

    Sidebar: For reasons not yet clear, BootMagic doesn't work on my newest computer. Maybe there's something about the dual-core, 64-bit architecture it can't handle.

    So, on the new machine, I install a copy of SuSE in an extended partition and let it install GRUB into the boot sector. During the installation you can modify the GRUB menu to your liking, i.e. "Vista" instead of Windows2. GRUB finds and boots everything I've tossed at it, from DOS 6.22 to x64 XP.

    Btw, GRUB in Fedora works just as well.

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    lmiller222

    If you can't get the other options to work, you can contact HP and order the install disks for your Laptop. They will charge you $10 for your problems, but it will get you back up and going....


    Larry

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    jamesmondtan

    I have read a article someway before. whereby winxp must install 1st before install vista. It make me feel like w2k multiboot.

    I have 2 hardisk 3 partition in my pc. I got one disk with xp. i install second hardisk with vista. everything fine, only driver causing problem. ( but i manage to settle )
    Currently my only problem is asus wireless port. i realise if the 1st time i on pc into vista then the wireless working without problem. if i 1st on into xp. after restart my vista have no wireless connect. few time try also the same. but haven send sit6uation to asus.