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what does PREINSTALLED Windows 7 mean?

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what does PREINSTALLED Windows 7 mean?

katiejo43
my boyfriend and I bought a asus laptop from bestbuy two weeks ago. Just found out yesterday windows 7 only comes preinstalled!!! When I asked the nerd at bestbuy if it came with windows 7 he said yes... Now I am finding out I have to pay 150 to get it fully installed after I just spend so much money on this laptop...
what does it mean it's preinstalled?
what will happen if I don't fully install in sixty days?
is that right of best buy to sell me a laptop with only trial software and not tell me?
is there a cheaper solution or another option?
please help I'm a makeup artist and hair stylist... I know little about computers! I feel like bestbuy is taking advantage... And finding any reason to tax more! Obama must be running bestbuy... Lol cuz they try to find any reason to cgarge more and take your hard earned money!!!!
thanks so much
katie jo :-)
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    santeewelding

    You need to get with it -- fast. Even if this means you need to get away from hair-styling for a good, long while.

    Otherwise, STFU, and listen on the sideline.

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    Ron K.

    I'm an expert on harshability and you did a fine job of squelching my morning feel-good. <br>
    She certainly doesn't need to get with it on my account. In fact, I'm perversely looking forward to her follow up question a couple of months from now as to why her unactivated/unregistered Windows 7 doesn't work.<br>

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    katiejo43

    Wow... I'm sorry I'm not very good with computers... I asked a question to a group of people I figured could help... I hope that when you have any questions throughout life, someone doesn't treat you this way! I don't understand why you are so rude to me or what I did to make you feel you had to be such an asshole! You must be a very miserable lonely person to pick on a 20 yr old hair stylist asking for advice! Good luck to you in life... Hope you learn to treat people better!

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    santeewelding

    I am very near the other end of the age line from where you are. Good luck in life is what I wish for you -- with stern advice.

    Get cracking. Learn.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Without going into the confabulated rumour mill surrounding the advent of pre-installing the computer's operating system, what you have bought is more or less run of the mill (the other mill, not the rumour one!) and normal practice when buying a new computer.

    You get the brand new machine and the operating system has been installed for you - RIGHT UP TO THE POINT where, if you were installing it yourself - the system would ask you to type in your personal details like your preferred name for your user account, password if you want one, any other user accounts you want at that initial stage, then the installation finalises with YOUR DETAILS in it.

    Every Microsoft operating system requires to be validated online with the Microsoft website and, again, what you are witnessing is perfectly normal.

    You need to register your computer's system with Microsoft so that they can check that the software is not a Pirated Copy, then when they issue Updates every month (or more frequently on occasions) your computer has already been verified and it smooths the process of the Updates.

    As to what will happen if YOU DO NOT REGISTER with Microsoft, there are two distinct possibilities:

    #1 Your computer will fail to boot and will sit more or less dormant, but insisting that you Register it.

    #2 You will register it - either before the set period of time has expired and you'll register it online without any difficulty (it only takes seconds!) OR you'll have run out of grace time and will have to register your system manually by calling the Freephone Telephone Number on the computer screen for whichever corner of the world you happen to be when you make the call.

    It's NOT a con on the part of the computer resellers, it's just the way things tend to happen in the 21st Century.

    Without knowing the Make and Model of your new computer I can't be more detailed.

    Perhaps you could let us know what those details are. :)

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    Neon Samurai

    Charging the customer 150$ to stand beside them for five minutes while going through the initial system setup; I'd say that's a bit of a con if not highway robbery.

    But, the preinstalled OS, final setup steps and registering with Microsoft are absolutely normal as you say.

    (I'd just have said "confirm you have an authentic licensed Windows" versus "confirm it's not Pirated".. mostly because Piracy and simply copyright infringement are two different things regardless of what RIAA and the media says.)

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    katiejo43

    Thank you for taking time to reply... I sure do appeciate it! Computers isn't my strong suit! The reason I was panicking a little is because I turned my computer on and it asked for the windows information which I didn't receive with my laptop! When I went to geek squad they said I had a sixty day trial and had to pay 150 to get it fully installed... So I'm a little confused on if they are just trying to get more $$ outta me? My laptop is a Asus Model #: K50I-RBBGR05....SKU#:
    9700714.... Hope this is the information you asked about!
    thanks again... Have a great day
    Katie jo

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    Neon Samurai

    Windows doesn't come installed on a new computer as a sixty day trial. Would it be Microsoft Office 2007 60 day trial that they are refering to?

    I don't ask to insult; I can't tell you how many people told me about "Windows 2007" last year when they really meant "Microsoft Office 2007". The first is the software that makes your computer start up and gives you the desktop icons and such. The second is applications that run on top; Word, Excel, Access and such.

    A comparison may be a hand held hairdryer (the OS) versus the various blower end attachments that change how the air comes out (applications).

    If it's Microsoft Office (the blower end attachment), then you might want to look at Openoffice.org which is a free office suite. It may do enough of what you need and won't time out in sixty days.

    If you know any computer type folk personally or have friends with computery kids, they would be a good resource to talk with even if you don't have them make any changes to the machine.

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    OldER Mycroft

    If for no other reason than the normal grace period before HAVING to register any Windows installation is usually 28 days.

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    seanferd

    If you don't know what it is, you likely don't need it at all.

    If you find you do want an office suite without paying 150 bucks. OpenOffice is nice at $0. http://www.openoffice.org/

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    Neon Samurai

    Every now and then I find traces left behind after our contractor preps the latest Lenovo purchase. O2007 trial is definitely out there in the "value add" bundle.

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    seanferd

    HP and Dell is mostly what I run into.

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    .Martin.

    HP, Toshiba, Dell, Compaq, Acer, Asus

    haven't had a chance to look at Lenovo, MSI, Samsung. but I expect the same.

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    seanferd

    Preinstalled: Means it is already installed on your computer when you buy it, like most computers.

    If it is already installed, I don't understand at all what you need to pay $150 for. It is already on there.

    Now, if you mean you want to upgrade from Win 7 Home or whatever to Win 7 Ultimate, yeah, it'll cost you more.

    If you have no interest in upgrading, you're already there. Done.

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    Caffeene

    That is probably a setup fee, you can install it yourself just by following the prompts. Don't pay the fee as it is easy for even a novice.

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    OH Smeg

    It means that ASUS has done what M$ call a OPK Install where you have to enter your User Name, Password if you want one, Master Password again if you want one and finally the Product Key which is a 25 Digit Alpha Numeric String letters and numbers located on the COA a sticker with the Version of Windows 7 always located on the bottom of the Lap Top.

    Though if you are anything like me you'll need a magnifying glass to read the Product Key.

    After you have entered your Personal Details you will need to Activate the OS with M$ within 28 Days of first starting the completed Installed OS, this can be done one of two ways Activate On Line takes a few seconds but you do need a active Internet connection to do this or you can chose to Activate Manually over the Phone where you speak to a person or do as M$ want enter the Product Key through a Touch Phone's Key Pad. The System will then generate a Activation Code which is a One Time only use which you enter into the Boxes provided on the screen.

    You will be Prompted to Register Windows 7 with M$ but this isn't necessary if you don't want to do it. Just Activating the Windows 7 Product is all that is required.

    As for a 60 Day Limit this is M$ Office 2007 Trial which is installed onto all new Systems by the system builders to show what else is available in the form of Microsoft Software. M$ Office has no relation to M$ Windows other than you need the Windows OS to run the Office Product. Office 2007 Trial consists of Applications Word, Power Point, Outlook, Excel, Access and maybe Publisher. I'm not sure about the last one as I don't use M$ Office 2007 because it uses a different File Format for it's Documents which may not be possible to read on another computer without the M$ Office 2007 Suite installed.

    To me the quoted $150.00 sounds very much like the cost of a M$ Office 2007 License which is a Optional Extra that can be purchased after you buy a computer if you like. You don't need to use it unless you require those Applications and even then the Desk Top Icon clearly Identifies the Version of Office that you have as a 60 Day Trial.

    If you don't want to pay for the M$ Office Suite there are other Office Suites available with Open Office being the free option which may or may not suit your needs.

    Think of M$ office as the Optional Air Conditioning that you can get with a new car. You don't need that option installed to use the car but it may make the use of the car more comfortable for you.

    Col

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    santeewelding

    You need to get with it -- fast. Even if this means you need to get away from hair-styling for a good, long while.

    Otherwise, STFU, and listen on the sideline.

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    Ron K.

    I'm an expert on harshability and you did a fine job of squelching my morning feel-good. <br>
    She certainly doesn't need to get with it on my account. In fact, I'm perversely looking forward to her follow up question a couple of months from now as to why her unactivated/unregistered Windows 7 doesn't work.<br>

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    katiejo43

    Wow... I'm sorry I'm not very good with computers... I asked a question to a group of people I figured could help... I hope that when you have any questions throughout life, someone doesn't treat you this way! I don't understand why you are so rude to me or what I did to make you feel you had to be such an asshole! You must be a very miserable lonely person to pick on a 20 yr old hair stylist asking for advice! Good luck to you in life... Hope you learn to treat people better!

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    santeewelding

    I am very near the other end of the age line from where you are. Good luck in life is what I wish for you -- with stern advice.

    Get cracking. Learn.

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    OldER Mycroft

    Without going into the confabulated rumour mill surrounding the advent of pre-installing the computer's operating system, what you have bought is more or less run of the mill (the other mill, not the rumour one!) and normal practice when buying a new computer.

    You get the brand new machine and the operating system has been installed for you - RIGHT UP TO THE POINT where, if you were installing it yourself - the system would ask you to type in your personal details like your preferred name for your user account, password if you want one, any other user accounts you want at that initial stage, then the installation finalises with YOUR DETAILS in it.

    Every Microsoft operating system requires to be validated online with the Microsoft website and, again, what you are witnessing is perfectly normal.

    You need to register your computer's system with Microsoft so that they can check that the software is not a Pirated Copy, then when they issue Updates every month (or more frequently on occasions) your computer has already been verified and it smooths the process of the Updates.

    As to what will happen if YOU DO NOT REGISTER with Microsoft, there are two distinct possibilities:

    #1 Your computer will fail to boot and will sit more or less dormant, but insisting that you Register it.

    #2 You will register it - either before the set period of time has expired and you'll register it online without any difficulty (it only takes seconds!) OR you'll have run out of grace time and will have to register your system manually by calling the Freephone Telephone Number on the computer screen for whichever corner of the world you happen to be when you make the call.

    It's NOT a con on the part of the computer resellers, it's just the way things tend to happen in the 21st Century.

    Without knowing the Make and Model of your new computer I can't be more detailed.

    Perhaps you could let us know what those details are. :)

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    Neon Samurai

    Charging the customer 150$ to stand beside them for five minutes while going through the initial system setup; I'd say that's a bit of a con if not highway robbery.

    But, the preinstalled OS, final setup steps and registering with Microsoft are absolutely normal as you say.

    (I'd just have said "confirm you have an authentic licensed Windows" versus "confirm it's not Pirated".. mostly because Piracy and simply copyright infringement are two different things regardless of what RIAA and the media says.)

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    katiejo43

    Thank you for taking time to reply... I sure do appeciate it! Computers isn't my strong suit! The reason I was panicking a little is because I turned my computer on and it asked for the windows information which I didn't receive with my laptop! When I went to geek squad they said I had a sixty day trial and had to pay 150 to get it fully installed... So I'm a little confused on if they are just trying to get more $$ outta me? My laptop is a Asus Model #: K50I-RBBGR05....SKU#:
    9700714.... Hope this is the information you asked about!
    thanks again... Have a great day
    Katie jo

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    Neon Samurai

    Windows doesn't come installed on a new computer as a sixty day trial. Would it be Microsoft Office 2007 60 day trial that they are refering to?

    I don't ask to insult; I can't tell you how many people told me about "Windows 2007" last year when they really meant "Microsoft Office 2007". The first is the software that makes your computer start up and gives you the desktop icons and such. The second is applications that run on top; Word, Excel, Access and such.

    A comparison may be a hand held hairdryer (the OS) versus the various blower end attachments that change how the air comes out (applications).

    If it's Microsoft Office (the blower end attachment), then you might want to look at Openoffice.org which is a free office suite. It may do enough of what you need and won't time out in sixty days.

    If you know any computer type folk personally or have friends with computery kids, they would be a good resource to talk with even if you don't have them make any changes to the machine.

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    OldER Mycroft

    If for no other reason than the normal grace period before HAVING to register any Windows installation is usually 28 days.

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    seanferd

    If you don't know what it is, you likely don't need it at all.

    If you find you do want an office suite without paying 150 bucks. OpenOffice is nice at $0. http://www.openoffice.org/

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    Neon Samurai

    Every now and then I find traces left behind after our contractor preps the latest Lenovo purchase. O2007 trial is definitely out there in the "value add" bundle.

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    seanferd

    HP and Dell is mostly what I run into.

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    .Martin.

    HP, Toshiba, Dell, Compaq, Acer, Asus

    haven't had a chance to look at Lenovo, MSI, Samsung. but I expect the same.

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    seanferd

    Preinstalled: Means it is already installed on your computer when you buy it, like most computers.

    If it is already installed, I don't understand at all what you need to pay $150 for. It is already on there.

    Now, if you mean you want to upgrade from Win 7 Home or whatever to Win 7 Ultimate, yeah, it'll cost you more.

    If you have no interest in upgrading, you're already there. Done.

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    Caffeene

    That is probably a setup fee, you can install it yourself just by following the prompts. Don't pay the fee as it is easy for even a novice.

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    OH Smeg

    It means that ASUS has done what M$ call a OPK Install where you have to enter your User Name, Password if you want one, Master Password again if you want one and finally the Product Key which is a 25 Digit Alpha Numeric String letters and numbers located on the COA a sticker with the Version of Windows 7 always located on the bottom of the Lap Top.

    Though if you are anything like me you'll need a magnifying glass to read the Product Key.

    After you have entered your Personal Details you will need to Activate the OS with M$ within 28 Days of first starting the completed Installed OS, this can be done one of two ways Activate On Line takes a few seconds but you do need a active Internet connection to do this or you can chose to Activate Manually over the Phone where you speak to a person or do as M$ want enter the Product Key through a Touch Phone's Key Pad. The System will then generate a Activation Code which is a One Time only use which you enter into the Boxes provided on the screen.

    You will be Prompted to Register Windows 7 with M$ but this isn't necessary if you don't want to do it. Just Activating the Windows 7 Product is all that is required.

    As for a 60 Day Limit this is M$ Office 2007 Trial which is installed onto all new Systems by the system builders to show what else is available in the form of Microsoft Software. M$ Office has no relation to M$ Windows other than you need the Windows OS to run the Office Product. Office 2007 Trial consists of Applications Word, Power Point, Outlook, Excel, Access and maybe Publisher. I'm not sure about the last one as I don't use M$ Office 2007 because it uses a different File Format for it's Documents which may not be possible to read on another computer without the M$ Office 2007 Suite installed.

    To me the quoted $150.00 sounds very much like the cost of a M$ Office 2007 License which is a Optional Extra that can be purchased after you buy a computer if you like. You don't need to use it unless you require those Applications and even then the Desk Top Icon clearly Identifies the Version of Office that you have as a 60 Day Trial.

    If you don't want to pay for the M$ Office Suite there are other Office Suites available with Open Office being the free option which may or may not suit your needs.

    Think of M$ office as the Optional Air Conditioning that you can get with a new car. You don't need that option installed to use the car but it may make the use of the car more comfortable for you.

    Col