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Wired Router & Wireless Access Point problems

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Wired Router & Wireless Access Point problems

patmcd99
Hi folks,

Newbie here, first post, so go easy.

I've a problem with a new Netgear WPN824 wireless router connecting to my existing Zyxel 623R-T1 router, problem "seems" to be with the DNS not being passed from the Zyxel to the NETGEAR, is there some method to pass the DNS through?

I've tried various connection configurations, using the NETGEAR WAN and LAN connections, Zyxel bridge connection but no joy.

I finally admitted defeat last night when I couldn't even access the NETGEAR's admin page with an ethernet cable.

Last configuaration via LAN connection as follows

Zxyel-PPPoE, 192.168.1.1, DHCP enabled range 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.7, DNS dynamically assigned by ISP

Netgear- IP 192.168.1.99, DHCP off

PC-IP DHCP assigned 192.168.1.2, gateway 192.168.1.1, no DNS listed.

Any help would be gratefully received
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    uh

    ScottTech

    Why do you have 2 routers? Why did you buy a wireless router instead of an Access Point?

    I'm assuming you bought the wireless router to enable wireless access on your network, and not because you have more than one WAN line incoming.

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    patmcd99

    ScottTech hi,

    Your assumptions are right, the router was bought as a present and as the retailer doesn't have the equivalent access point refuses to refund/ exchange, so I'm left with the router

    Basically all I want to do is connect my laptop and PS3 wirelessly to the net ;-)

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    Langlier

    1. What is the intended purpose of this configuration? Do you need wireless at two seperate locations or running an A router instead of a B or G?

    2. You likely will need to either change the mode of the 2nd router to be an access point and/or change its local IP to 192.168.2.1 . I'm making some assumptions here that you are wiring the 2 routers together and not expecting to use one as a wireless repeater.

    With routers you're dealing with 2 IPs. The one assigned to it (normally by DHCP) and the one the rest of the devices below it will see it as (the local IP). In this case I'm betting you will need to change the local IP to something different (I recommended 192.168.2.1).

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    patmcd99

    langlier hi,

    Your assumptions are correct, I'm just looking for wireless net access for a laptop and PS3, as I explainned to ScottTech the router was a present and can't be exchanged.

    I'll try the IP change and let you know how I get on,

    thanks for the help

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    vinitogupta

    Hi,
    I am using DLink Wired and Linksys Wireless Router, so here is the deal connect one lan port from wired router to wireless router just give static ip to wireless router with same subnet as wired. Enable dhcp in wireless router configure the way you want and you are all good to go.

    Thanks

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    Fred123456

    The Firewalled hardwired router is connecting to the internet and your wireless router is not.
    Disable the firewall and, if enabled, the DNS service on the wireless router. Keep DHCP on and give it a different IP subnet.
    So if your hardwired device has an internal network setup as 192.168.1.x give the wireless router an internal network config of 192.168.2.x.

    The bottom line is treat the wireless router as if its connecting to an ISP but instead its your primary "wired" internal network.

    That will work just fine. You could even turn on the firewall and allow people to wirelessly connect while protecting your hardwired devices, such as servers.

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    vinitogupta

    Hi,
    I am using Dlink Wired and Linksys Wireless router,Connect Wired router to Internet sourece and connected wireless router on lan port of the wired router.

    Give a static ip to wireless router and subnet same as the wired and use wired routers ip as gateway for wireless router. Enable DHCP and all set

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    Fred123456

    The Firewalled hardwired router is connecting to the internet and your wireless router is not.
    Disable the firewall and, if enabled, the DNS service on the wireless router. Keep DHCP on and give it a different IP subnet.
    So if your hardwired device has an internal network setup as 192.168.1.x give the wireless router an internal network config of 192.168.2.x.

    The bottom line is treat the wireless router as if its connecting to an ISP but instead its your primary "wired" internal network.

    That will work just fine. You could even turn on the firewall and allow people to wirelessly connect while protecting your hardwired devices, such as servers.

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    patmcd99

    Hi folks, been away for a few days so got back to base to try and sort out these routers.

    I've got the wired router setup as a bridge and the wireless router with an ip address outside the wired DHCP range. PC is using maually set ip address.
    The wireless router status is picking up the ISP issued ip & DNS servers etc but I still can't access the net or ping the wired router.
    Should I use NAT on the wired to "open" all ports to the wireless?

    Zyxel: Bridge mode RFC1483; 192.168.2.1 DHCP on range 192.168.2.2 - 192.168.2.7

    WPN824: 192.168.2.100, DHCP off, IP & DNS ISP assigned, gateway 192.168.2.1

    PC: manually assigned ip with DHCP range, gateway 192.168.2.1

    Any suggestions would be great, thanks

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    uh

    ScottTech

    Why do you have 2 routers? Why did you buy a wireless router instead of an Access Point?

    I'm assuming you bought the wireless router to enable wireless access on your network, and not because you have more than one WAN line incoming.

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    patmcd99

    ScottTech hi,

    Your assumptions are right, the router was bought as a present and as the retailer doesn't have the equivalent access point refuses to refund/ exchange, so I'm left with the router

    Basically all I want to do is connect my laptop and PS3 wirelessly to the net ;-)

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    Langlier

    1. What is the intended purpose of this configuration? Do you need wireless at two seperate locations or running an A router instead of a B or G?

    2. You likely will need to either change the mode of the 2nd router to be an access point and/or change its local IP to 192.168.2.1 . I'm making some assumptions here that you are wiring the 2 routers together and not expecting to use one as a wireless repeater.

    With routers you're dealing with 2 IPs. The one assigned to it (normally by DHCP) and the one the rest of the devices below it will see it as (the local IP). In this case I'm betting you will need to change the local IP to something different (I recommended 192.168.2.1).

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    patmcd99

    langlier hi,

    Your assumptions are correct, I'm just looking for wireless net access for a laptop and PS3, as I explainned to ScottTech the router was a present and can't be exchanged.

    I'll try the IP change and let you know how I get on,

    thanks for the help

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    vinitogupta

    Hi,
    I am using DLink Wired and Linksys Wireless Router, so here is the deal connect one lan port from wired router to wireless router just give static ip to wireless router with same subnet as wired. Enable dhcp in wireless router configure the way you want and you are all good to go.

    Thanks

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    Fred123456

    The Firewalled hardwired router is connecting to the internet and your wireless router is not.
    Disable the firewall and, if enabled, the DNS service on the wireless router. Keep DHCP on and give it a different IP subnet.
    So if your hardwired device has an internal network setup as 192.168.1.x give the wireless router an internal network config of 192.168.2.x.

    The bottom line is treat the wireless router as if its connecting to an ISP but instead its your primary "wired" internal network.

    That will work just fine. You could even turn on the firewall and allow people to wirelessly connect while protecting your hardwired devices, such as servers.

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    0 Votes
    vinitogupta

    Hi,
    I am using Dlink Wired and Linksys Wireless router,Connect Wired router to Internet sourece and connected wireless router on lan port of the wired router.

    Give a static ip to wireless router and subnet same as the wired and use wired routers ip as gateway for wireless router. Enable DHCP and all set

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    0 Votes
    Fred123456

    The Firewalled hardwired router is connecting to the internet and your wireless router is not.
    Disable the firewall and, if enabled, the DNS service on the wireless router. Keep DHCP on and give it a different IP subnet.
    So if your hardwired device has an internal network setup as 192.168.1.x give the wireless router an internal network config of 192.168.2.x.

    The bottom line is treat the wireless router as if its connecting to an ISP but instead its your primary "wired" internal network.

    That will work just fine. You could even turn on the firewall and allow people to wirelessly connect while protecting your hardwired devices, such as servers.

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    patmcd99

    Hi folks, been away for a few days so got back to base to try and sort out these routers.

    I've got the wired router setup as a bridge and the wireless router with an ip address outside the wired DHCP range. PC is using maually set ip address.
    The wireless router status is picking up the ISP issued ip & DNS servers etc but I still can't access the net or ping the wired router.
    Should I use NAT on the wired to "open" all ports to the wireless?

    Zyxel: Bridge mode RFC1483; 192.168.2.1 DHCP on range 192.168.2.2 - 192.168.2.7

    WPN824: 192.168.2.100, DHCP off, IP & DNS ISP assigned, gateway 192.168.2.1

    PC: manually assigned ip with DHCP range, gateway 192.168.2.1

    Any suggestions would be great, thanks