+ 1 Votes Amen brother, continue preaching this sermon, as I agree - they should NOT Deadly Ernest 1 year ago be ticked by default for anything extra. Also, the ones that are loaded like this are ALWAYS a real ******* to remove later. + 0 Votes probably, but it WILL make SOME aware of what's happening - nt Deadly Ernest 1 year ago nt + 1 Votes They also try to install mcafe Slayer_ 1 year ago But so far, of the 3 machines I got, all 3 failed to install the new version. So, oh well. Adobe getting really stupid, they have a 1mb web downloader that doesn't work, when just putting up the EXE would be easier. The flash 64bit OCX compresses to 4.25 megs. I'm pretty sure even dialup users can download 4.25 megs without a custom built downloader. + 0 Votes Java does it too. CharlieSpencer_Palmetto 1 year ago This morning there was a browser toolbar bundled with the downloader. Caveman too smart for puny installer; caveman uncheck puny option box! Why can't they just offer? Perhaps because they paid for every sucke- ..., uh, successful installation? + 0 Votes Yep.... Rob Kuhn 1 year ago ... I noticed that too this morning. Because I have to provide support for just about all of the browsers (MSIE, FireFox, WaterFox, Safari, Opera, and Chrome) I already had the most current version installed; so when I did not uncheck the "Install Chrome" it saw I already had Chrome so it by-passed it. Still, I agree, really wish they would leave stuff like that unchecked and let the user decide. + 0 Votes Allowing the user to opt in won't change the end result NickNielsen Moderator 1 year ago It will simply change the means of getting the user to load the crapware. Users will get a splash screen with a huge "Yes, load me up" button. And when they finally find the "No thanks" button, the subsequent "Are you sure you don't want to?" follow-up screen will be worded in such a way as to mislead the user into thinking the most prominent button will still skip the install. It all comes down to something society has been discouraging for years: getting (allowing?) people to think for themselves.