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Hurricane Irene

CharlieSpencer
Hey, Eastern Seaboard: DUCK!

Darryl and PS, what's the plan this time? I assume he has to work again; will she put cats in the car and haul (insert deleted euphemism for 'kitty')?
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    JamesRL

    If thet find out they are in the path, Darryl and Purple can get outta dodge.

    What if the 8 million people(or so) in NYC find out they are in the path, what if even half of them want to leave, what happens next?

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    jck

    Jammed roads
    4 hours to go 8 miles
    Hotels trying to charge 10 times normal rate
    People buying up tons of water and selling it later at $10 a bottle

    It's the American way!

    If they want to leave, I'd suggest doing it early. Go stay in PA for a long weekend.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Even hopping from car-roof to car-roof when the motorway floods is faster...
    People is ca-ra-zy!

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    AV .

    They evacuated lower Manhatten and are closing the bridges. They will shut down all of the mass transit systems (trains and subways) early tomorrow. They're doing the same thing in NJ. They closed the Garden State Parkway in southern NJ and made all of the lanes northbound so that people can't go to the coastal areas, but they will be able to leave.

    Theres going to be a lot of damage in NY/NJ because of the sustained winds and flooding. If you're in NY, you really can't get out. Most people in NY don't have cars and they rely on mass transit.

    I'm not looking forward to this. It's scary.

    AV

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    AnsuGisalas

    be safe!

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    cmiller5400

    This hurricane I've heard has been compared to Bob in 1991...

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    Kenone

    Evacuate NYC?? Prolly be a lot easier if the MTA didn't shut down all bus, train, and subway service. Co-ordination!! Another word politicians don't know.

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    Kenone

    And . . . New Year's Eve to boot - I'm going out partying, see ya next year!!

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    seanferd

    Yet randomly. For at least a week, so far.

    New Year's Eve, 1969. All day, all night, all nice.

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    Well, waving as it passes by, anyway. I'm in Myrtle Beach tonight. There's some rain, some wind, and that's about it. Expecting clear skies in the morning.

    Best of luck to everybody in the path of this one.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Some Rain a little wind and lots of Soggy Lorries demanding to be feed.

    And we are not even in the Northern Hemisphere where they have Hurricanes.

    Now I'm going out and applying for bankruptcy as the Lorries have already eaten 15 loves of bread and they are just demanding to be feed yet again. :0

    Col

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    AnsuGisalas

    Soylent Blue... it's made of Lorries.

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    seanferd

    I've seen a few that tip an awful lot. I'm surprised they aren't staggering about on the job.

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    santeewelding

    Now I learn that Irene will miss California completely.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Those are some good preparations! Even the houdoun don't have it that good!

    BTW: Isn't it on the other side of the continent from you? Or is my geography obsolete... again?

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    seanferd

    is why Irene will miss Santee completely. She must have received the <a href="http://santeewelding.com/blue_light_p6270009.jpg"> warning</a>, and wants to avoid eye damage.

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    CharlieSpencer

    It's Nature's way of compensating for the earthquakes, mudslides, forest fires, Hollywood, etc.

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    AnsuGisalas

    What was that Hurricane Arnold I heard about, cutting a swath of destruction across itself?

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    seanferd

    the Eastern Seaboard spread before her eye.

    Good luck to the Outer Banks.

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    It's New Brunswick that's going to get a beating from Irene. It's going to be pretty crappy for them too; they've been flooded out a couple times already this year making the ground saturated. I expect a lot of trees will come down and I imagine there will be a lot of flooding. I work for a major construction firm that is building the new Gateway hi-way going through New Brunswick; I expect it will put some of our guys out of work for a few days.

    Nova Scotia, on the other hand, isn't going to get much. Looks like some rain and a little bit gusty but that's about it. > http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/ns-25_metric_e.html Thank goodness because we've had more than our fair share in the last 8 years. It will be 8 yrs in September since Juan went through. That year it all started with a huge flood in April, Juan in September, and then White Juan in February. Since then, we've had a bunch of little storms, some nasty rains, and a weather bomb this past December (this was an experience to say the least). > http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/storm_watch_stories3&stormfile=potential_weather_bomb_targe_041210

    Over the course of July, I always manage to gather up enough canned goods to last a couple days, freeze three 2 quart jugs in the event that we need blocks of ice, we double check our "camping gear", and make sure that all three propane tanks for the grill are filled and ready to go; if fill up water jugs if I hear that there is going to be "adverse weather".

    So...everyone in Irene's path...keep your head down if you haven't "gotten outta Dodge" - which would have been my option - if you still have time, stock up on power outage needs..canned goods, candles, batteries, bottled water. Please stay safe and I hope you all weather the storm well.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Well PS if things get really desperate

    You can always eat the children. After all they have to be good for something.

    I'm under the impression that they are really tasty if you slow roast ot Spit Roast them after marinating them in Copious Amounts of Cheap Red Wine for a day or so after dressing them.

    Col

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    CharlieSpencer

    Wouldn't their clothes get stuck in your teeth?

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    lol...Col

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    what's that all about eh?after our names....anyway...i don't do cheap red wine...the stuff i like cost 20 Can. to buy...i'm not wasting it on marinating one of the kidlets...

    back to work for me...i'm on housework duty today...giving the "boss" a break...he cooks most of the time, so i best pick it up 'cause i don't wanna cook

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    and serving the neighbors that you are not overly fond of.

    You keep the expensive stuff for yourself to drink. Haven't I taught you anything yet?

    Do I have to give you cooking lessons as well? :0

    Col

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    AV .

    So far, just a little light rain and the wind is kicking up. The bad stuff didn't reach Northern NJ yet.

    I'm as prepared as I can possibly be. The hub and I cleaned up the yard today. I have most of my plants in the house. We put all the lawn furniture away. Anything that can fly around. We cut down a few branches that looked like they might hit the house.

    All we can do is hope for the best. They said we can get up to a foot of rain. I can't wrap my mind around that right now, but my basement will undoubtedly flood. Fortunately, our property is sloped, so the water usually goes downhill. The worst is when we lose power though. We have a well and a septic system, so we will have no water or sewer. I filled up the bathtub with water so we can at least manually flush the toilets.

    I even got out my old dialup modem for when our cable goes out. I have an old dialup account for just-in-case moments like this one. Hope I can remember how to set up the modem.

    AV

    edit: fixed paragraph

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    If they are named after a Female they are going to be damaging and extremely dangerous.

    If they are named after a male just ignore them as they are harmless.

    Col

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    CharlieSpencer

    So much for that theory.

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    AnsuGisalas

    <a href=http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/gleazer/296_readings/Lakoff.pdf>George Lakoff : Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things </a>
    It's about grammatical categories (such as gender, like they have in French and German), and the title comes from an aboriginal people, whose language (Dyirbal, spoken somewhere up the east side of the peak of Queensland, about the height of Darwin) has one "gender" for such things as Women, Fire, and (other) Dangerous Things.
    Sounds like you know that truth.


    EDIT: Found a link to the actual book, rather than the amazon blurb'n'cover

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    AV .

    I'm going to have to go soon.

    AV

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    santeewelding

    Away from the computer and out of communication? Not out into it...

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    be safe...

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    seanferd

    Stay safe.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Sitting in a room with a Petrol Generator Twitting every few seconds will get you killed. No the Hurricane will not hurt you but the Carbon Monoxide will most certainly Kill You.

    If you have done everything possible just sit back and hope that the neighbors downwind have done the same and stay away from the windows.

    Also open the Windows away from the wind to prevent a pressure buildup inside the house which will lift the roof.

    Provided you are high enough above water you'll be A OK.

    Col

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    IIRC, the Mythbusters shot this one down several years ago. It's not the pressure differential, but the wind speed that causes problems. Opening a window creates turbulence, which only increases the problem.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    I was in a house at Townsville when a cyclone hit. No biggy it's normal here and we expect these things. If you don't open the windows away from the oncoming winds the roof will **** off. Been there done that.

    But to be fair if the wall facing the wind gets breached like the idiots in the house directly downwind do not take in the rubbish bin and it blows into a car port then the roofing iron of the car port demolishes the wall and you have 8 foot sheets of Corrugated Iron embedded in internal walls.

    If the windows behind the house are open the roof stays on. If they are shut you loose the roof and then the majority of the house.

    OK maybe not what Myth Busters tried but it is certainly what happens. Also you need to remember that once one house/building goes it starts a chain of destruction downwind. Bits of roofing Iron floating around in the breeze are not my idea of fun though to be honest bits of Brick floating about in the same breeze are something to be avoided as well. :0

    It was interesting looking at the aftermath. The place I was in had the wall facing the ocean mostly demolished and a couple of sheets of Corrugated Iron sticking out of internal walls but otherwise fairly intact. The next house downwind was destroyed when bits of the same car port hit it. It was empty and locked up tight and was no more. Then every house downwind was simply gone. OH it was Brick where as the house I was in was weather board.

    So we had the Ocean then the first house in only loosing a rubbish bin and the car port, the second house from the ocean had the wall facing the ocean gone but otherwise intact and then everything behind that was gone/demolished. No one died but I'm not sure how they didn't in that area. :0

    Col

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    CharlieSpencer

    Those are what really scare me - some realtor's 2-foot square piece of sheet metal spinning at 110 mph. Those rarely get taken down as part of pre-storm preparations, especially if the owners have already moved out.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    When that happens it's time to hide as deep inside the house away from the outside as possible.

    Of course with modern houses you are flat out getting more than 1 wall away from an exterior wall.

    On the up side here most of those signs are plastic so they mash up on themselves when they hit anything. Mind you the few that have metal ones are very scary.

    Col

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    Darryl~ Moderator

    We're in a trailer park of around 350...many have metal siding. You don't go outside when you see that stuff flying around in the middle of a hurricane....as scared as you may be inside a flimsy trailer, it's just way too dangerous outside.

    Well I see we have Katia heading for the East Coast now....that should be fun....NOT!

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    santeewelding

    "Oh no, the winds. I'm going to have to go soon."

    They leave us aloft, AV.

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    JamesRL

    If thet find out they are in the path, Darryl and Purple can get outta dodge.

    What if the 8 million people(or so) in NYC find out they are in the path, what if even half of them want to leave, what happens next?

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    jck

    Jammed roads
    4 hours to go 8 miles
    Hotels trying to charge 10 times normal rate
    People buying up tons of water and selling it later at $10 a bottle

    It's the American way!

    If they want to leave, I'd suggest doing it early. Go stay in PA for a long weekend.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Even hopping from car-roof to car-roof when the motorway floods is faster...
    People is ca-ra-zy!

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    AV .

    They evacuated lower Manhatten and are closing the bridges. They will shut down all of the mass transit systems (trains and subways) early tomorrow. They're doing the same thing in NJ. They closed the Garden State Parkway in southern NJ and made all of the lanes northbound so that people can't go to the coastal areas, but they will be able to leave.

    Theres going to be a lot of damage in NY/NJ because of the sustained winds and flooding. If you're in NY, you really can't get out. Most people in NY don't have cars and they rely on mass transit.

    I'm not looking forward to this. It's scary.

    AV

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    AnsuGisalas

    be safe!

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    cmiller5400

    This hurricane I've heard has been compared to Bob in 1991...

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    Kenone

    Evacuate NYC?? Prolly be a lot easier if the MTA didn't shut down all bus, train, and subway service. Co-ordination!! Another word politicians don't know.

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    Kenone

    And . . . New Year's Eve to boot - I'm going out partying, see ya next year!!

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    seanferd

    Yet randomly. For at least a week, so far.

    New Year's Eve, 1969. All day, all night, all nice.

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    Well, waving as it passes by, anyway. I'm in Myrtle Beach tonight. There's some rain, some wind, and that's about it. Expecting clear skies in the morning.

    Best of luck to everybody in the path of this one.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Some Rain a little wind and lots of Soggy Lorries demanding to be feed.

    And we are not even in the Northern Hemisphere where they have Hurricanes.

    Now I'm going out and applying for bankruptcy as the Lorries have already eaten 15 loves of bread and they are just demanding to be feed yet again. :0

    Col

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    AnsuGisalas

    Soylent Blue... it's made of Lorries.

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    seanferd

    I've seen a few that tip an awful lot. I'm surprised they aren't staggering about on the job.

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    santeewelding

    Now I learn that Irene will miss California completely.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Those are some good preparations! Even the houdoun don't have it that good!

    BTW: Isn't it on the other side of the continent from you? Or is my geography obsolete... again?

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    seanferd

    is why Irene will miss Santee completely. She must have received the <a href="http://santeewelding.com/blue_light_p6270009.jpg"> warning</a>, and wants to avoid eye damage.

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    CharlieSpencer

    It's Nature's way of compensating for the earthquakes, mudslides, forest fires, Hollywood, etc.

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    AnsuGisalas

    What was that Hurricane Arnold I heard about, cutting a swath of destruction across itself?

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    seanferd

    the Eastern Seaboard spread before her eye.

    Good luck to the Outer Banks.

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    It's New Brunswick that's going to get a beating from Irene. It's going to be pretty crappy for them too; they've been flooded out a couple times already this year making the ground saturated. I expect a lot of trees will come down and I imagine there will be a lot of flooding. I work for a major construction firm that is building the new Gateway hi-way going through New Brunswick; I expect it will put some of our guys out of work for a few days.

    Nova Scotia, on the other hand, isn't going to get much. Looks like some rain and a little bit gusty but that's about it. > http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/ns-25_metric_e.html Thank goodness because we've had more than our fair share in the last 8 years. It will be 8 yrs in September since Juan went through. That year it all started with a huge flood in April, Juan in September, and then White Juan in February. Since then, we've had a bunch of little storms, some nasty rains, and a weather bomb this past December (this was an experience to say the least). > http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/storm_watch_stories3&stormfile=potential_weather_bomb_targe_041210

    Over the course of July, I always manage to gather up enough canned goods to last a couple days, freeze three 2 quart jugs in the event that we need blocks of ice, we double check our "camping gear", and make sure that all three propane tanks for the grill are filled and ready to go; if fill up water jugs if I hear that there is going to be "adverse weather".

    So...everyone in Irene's path...keep your head down if you haven't "gotten outta Dodge" - which would have been my option - if you still have time, stock up on power outage needs..canned goods, candles, batteries, bottled water. Please stay safe and I hope you all weather the storm well.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Well PS if things get really desperate

    You can always eat the children. After all they have to be good for something.

    I'm under the impression that they are really tasty if you slow roast ot Spit Roast them after marinating them in Copious Amounts of Cheap Red Wine for a day or so after dressing them.

    Col

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    CharlieSpencer

    Wouldn't their clothes get stuck in your teeth?

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    lol...Col

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    what's that all about eh?after our names....anyway...i don't do cheap red wine...the stuff i like cost 20 Can. to buy...i'm not wasting it on marinating one of the kidlets...

    back to work for me...i'm on housework duty today...giving the "boss" a break...he cooks most of the time, so i best pick it up 'cause i don't wanna cook

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    and serving the neighbors that you are not overly fond of.

    You keep the expensive stuff for yourself to drink. Haven't I taught you anything yet?

    Do I have to give you cooking lessons as well? :0

    Col

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    AV .

    So far, just a little light rain and the wind is kicking up. The bad stuff didn't reach Northern NJ yet.

    I'm as prepared as I can possibly be. The hub and I cleaned up the yard today. I have most of my plants in the house. We put all the lawn furniture away. Anything that can fly around. We cut down a few branches that looked like they might hit the house.

    All we can do is hope for the best. They said we can get up to a foot of rain. I can't wrap my mind around that right now, but my basement will undoubtedly flood. Fortunately, our property is sloped, so the water usually goes downhill. The worst is when we lose power though. We have a well and a septic system, so we will have no water or sewer. I filled up the bathtub with water so we can at least manually flush the toilets.

    I even got out my old dialup modem for when our cable goes out. I have an old dialup account for just-in-case moments like this one. Hope I can remember how to set up the modem.

    AV

    edit: fixed paragraph

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    If they are named after a Female they are going to be damaging and extremely dangerous.

    If they are named after a male just ignore them as they are harmless.

    Col

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    CharlieSpencer

    So much for that theory.

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    AnsuGisalas

    <a href=http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/gleazer/296_readings/Lakoff.pdf>George Lakoff : Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things </a>
    It's about grammatical categories (such as gender, like they have in French and German), and the title comes from an aboriginal people, whose language (Dyirbal, spoken somewhere up the east side of the peak of Queensland, about the height of Darwin) has one "gender" for such things as Women, Fire, and (other) Dangerous Things.
    Sounds like you know that truth.


    EDIT: Found a link to the actual book, rather than the amazon blurb'n'cover

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    AV .

    I'm going to have to go soon.

    AV

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    santeewelding

    Away from the computer and out of communication? Not out into it...

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    be safe...

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    seanferd

    Stay safe.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Sitting in a room with a Petrol Generator Twitting every few seconds will get you killed. No the Hurricane will not hurt you but the Carbon Monoxide will most certainly Kill You.

    If you have done everything possible just sit back and hope that the neighbors downwind have done the same and stay away from the windows.

    Also open the Windows away from the wind to prevent a pressure buildup inside the house which will lift the roof.

    Provided you are high enough above water you'll be A OK.

    Col

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    IIRC, the Mythbusters shot this one down several years ago. It's not the pressure differential, but the wind speed that causes problems. Opening a window creates turbulence, which only increases the problem.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    I was in a house at Townsville when a cyclone hit. No biggy it's normal here and we expect these things. If you don't open the windows away from the oncoming winds the roof will **** off. Been there done that.

    But to be fair if the wall facing the wind gets breached like the idiots in the house directly downwind do not take in the rubbish bin and it blows into a car port then the roofing iron of the car port demolishes the wall and you have 8 foot sheets of Corrugated Iron embedded in internal walls.

    If the windows behind the house are open the roof stays on. If they are shut you loose the roof and then the majority of the house.

    OK maybe not what Myth Busters tried but it is certainly what happens. Also you need to remember that once one house/building goes it starts a chain of destruction downwind. Bits of roofing Iron floating around in the breeze are not my idea of fun though to be honest bits of Brick floating about in the same breeze are something to be avoided as well. :0

    It was interesting looking at the aftermath. The place I was in had the wall facing the ocean mostly demolished and a couple of sheets of Corrugated Iron sticking out of internal walls but otherwise fairly intact. The next house downwind was destroyed when bits of the same car port hit it. It was empty and locked up tight and was no more. Then every house downwind was simply gone. OH it was Brick where as the house I was in was weather board.

    So we had the Ocean then the first house in only loosing a rubbish bin and the car port, the second house from the ocean had the wall facing the ocean gone but otherwise intact and then everything behind that was gone/demolished. No one died but I'm not sure how they didn't in that area. :0

    Col

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    CharlieSpencer

    Those are what really scare me - some realtor's 2-foot square piece of sheet metal spinning at 110 mph. Those rarely get taken down as part of pre-storm preparations, especially if the owners have already moved out.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    When that happens it's time to hide as deep inside the house away from the outside as possible.

    Of course with modern houses you are flat out getting more than 1 wall away from an exterior wall.

    On the up side here most of those signs are plastic so they mash up on themselves when they hit anything. Mind you the few that have metal ones are very scary.

    Col

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    Darryl~ Moderator

    We're in a trailer park of around 350...many have metal siding. You don't go outside when you see that stuff flying around in the middle of a hurricane....as scared as you may be inside a flimsy trailer, it's just way too dangerous outside.

    Well I see we have Katia heading for the East Coast now....that should be fun....NOT!

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    santeewelding

    "Oh no, the winds. I'm going to have to go soon."

    They leave us aloft, AV.