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Merry Christmas (I'm not politically correct)

AV .
I just love Christmas. Its a time of year when overdoing it is acceptable. Every desk has cookies or candies on it. People are in a good mood, and thats unusual. It must be all the sugar, but if you work in tech support, I know you know what I mean.

I've been having a wonderful time, eating, drinking and partying. The downside is shopping, wrapping and decorating and lots of extra pounds. I am so going to have to go on the "repent sinner" diet in the new year. Don't you just love the holidays? I do. Its a real festive (FAT) time. I have to admit, I get wrapped up in the whole thing. I love decorating the Christmas tree, but in the end, I think Christmas is really about getting together with loved ones and goodwill to everyone else.

That's not to say that Christmas doesn't have a lot of stress. Some people say "Bah Humbug" to getting involved and to them I'd like to show a little movie clip to make my point

http://movieclips.com/U2oH-scrooged-movie-the-truth-is-painful

Well, thats been my holiday season so far, I'd love to hear about yours.

AV
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    AnsuGisalas

    Up here Christ (still) has no place in the name of the festivities: It's Jul in Danish, and Joulu in Finnish.
    It's still the old-school solstice eat-fest at it's core. So, the nonchristian additions (tree and gift-bringer, for instance) sit really well with it... no "message" to detract from, you see... apart from the old message of "Ok, the worst frost is still to come - but at least it won't be getting darker anymore - so let's celebrate that, and eat all the stuff that won't last much longer anyway!"

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    AV .

    December 23 is officially Festivus. For those not familiar with this holiday, here's a little background.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus

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    NickNielsen Moderator



    I prefer the O'Keefe's tradition where Festivus can be any day you want it to be.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Is what I see the Sumer Solstice as, though as I'm in the Southern Hemisphere things are a bit different here. That Large over sized Sugar Rush here results in lots of Nasty people complaining that things don't work!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NnBxaToKEYy

    Now just how many people are Killed during Shopping while near the December Deadline or the Correct Term that so many actually forget Silly Season.

    Though just to rub your nose in it all I can say is You Can't Fatten a Thoroughbred. Gaining weight isn't something I had to worry about but **** Up Sheep being given to me are another story. :^0

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    Lucky. Though it wouldn't be Christmas to me if it wasn't dark, cold and dreary everyday.

    Yes, it really is the silly season. People lose their minds trying to get that special toy or gift. I really could do without the gift giving part and just get together for a party.

    I used to be able to eat whatever I want, just like you, but now just looking at all of the food thats around everywhere is enough to put a pound or two on the bod.

    **** up sheep? Hmm . . . . You can always regift it. :^0

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    I just give them to Kiwi Fiends that I know.

    They are mightily amused by the Battery packs that the **** Up Sheep have and the noises that they make.

    I was silly enough to be in a shop yesterday and watching a couple of women fighting over something. They destroyed it and then triumphantly took the remains that they had to pay for it. Must be the Shops Perfect piece of rubbish. Put 1 Price on it and sell it twice. :^0

    However currently here we have 2 Cyclones apparently forming One in the Coral Sea which may slightly affect me and one North of Darwin which may do a Tracy and destroy the Place early Christmas Morning while everyone is asleep waiting for Santa to arrive.

    Now I've got to go and eat some Chocolate I'm beginning to enjoy Growing Old Disgracefully. :^0

    Though I'll be the first to admit that having kids around makes Christmas completely different. With the Wifes Youngest being 36 this year that's long behind me so I'm just grumpy.

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    AnsuGisalas

    The traditional food for the yule here is a big mustard-glazed ham, with some even more traditional garnishes. Very rural.

    We used to do that. The first year we did, we had amazing luck (as later became apparent) : the ham didn't taste at all like a hog. You know, that sweaty, even uriny half-taste. It wasn't there. The first year.
    Now we've had less good luck (despite buying high-quality meat) for three consecutive years, so now that has to end.

    So, we're having Indian food.
    Tiger prawns, Biryanis, Samosas, Pakoras, Butter Chicken, Lamb curry, Chicken curry, Naan breads, Raita, etc.

    We don't have to cook it ourselves, either.

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    JamesRL

    Turkey is the tradition here, but when I was a kid, my Grandparents liked goose, so we had that quite a few times. I will be having turkey on Christmas this year.

    I quite like a good ham. I think what you are tasting isn't the hog taste, its the type of nitrates used in the smoking and curing processes. Some are stronger than other for sure.

    I love Indian food. I've made butter chicken myself (ok with a ready made sauce). My city is about 25% south asian, so I can get great samosas cheap. I often buy microwavable indian dishes for one person meals, and just put some naan under the broiler. I love lamb. Wish I could share that feast with you.

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    AnsuGisalas

    ...and he was nodding to himself and said "Yes yes... I like!" :)

    I think he feels he's finally found a sensible finnish person
    I would imagine that the huge slab of meat Finns usually have for christmas must be an intimidating idea for the Indian aesthetic...

    My uncle had a farm for a while, with geese. So in those years we had goose for christmas. Otherwise we've had Turkey a lot, since my Granddad and Grandma had been in the states so many times they'd grown fond of that tradition. I liked goose a lot, it's not dry at all - but there's a lot of meat on one of those bad boys, so it's sort of out our league in our smaller present circles, back then we were six adults, now we're just three.

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    AV .

    What does goose taste like? I'm thinking maybe it must be similar to duck. We usually have turkey on Thanksgiving, so on Christmas we have either ham or roast beef.

    Ham can be very good if it's not too strong. Its the only time I really eat it. My sister, who is a nurse, always warns the family that ham is not the best for you, but I tell her that once a year isn't going to kill her.

    I've never had butter chicken, but it sounds really good. I have to admit that when I read Ansu's post, I thought a Samosa was a Mimosa (a very nice drink). I don't eat much Indian food, but I do love lamb. Every now and then I'll get some, but its so expensive here that I don't buy it much.

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    AnsuGisalas

    I love the textures and the flavors, and how they play together. It has freshness from the vegetables to balance out the greasiness from the frying, it has mildness (batter and potatoes) and spices.
    I guess I've always been a fan of that kind of baked-in-food. I like those central-american ones too, you know, the ones whose name I don't remember
    It's not health food, but delicacies don't have to be :)

    AFAIR, Goose is less gamey than duck. It has a good grease balance, so it's also less dry than duck, and less compact.

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    JamesRL

    ....Empenadas

    We have very good samosas here, but then my town is about 25% from South Asia. The local indian supermarket has them....

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    AV .

    My family get-together usually consists of ham or roast beef. Ham is so much easier though, so thats what we'll be having. I don't have to cook for this holiday. Yay!

    Having Indian food on christmas is definitely different. Its always nice if you don't have to cook. That way you can just enjoy the party.

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    We'll be having ham this year.

    But if I leave Saturday evening, I think I can make it there, eat, and still be back for work on Monday morning. B-)

    What's the address, again?

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I'm not politically correct, either. I'm familiar with the 'origins' of Christmas as we know it, but I'm not willing to shed this particular family tradition and way of attending Christmas.

    It doesn't feel like Christmas to me this year, for several reasons. I'm in FL, the weather is delightfully warm, breezy, and sunny. Palm trees look kinda funny lit up, and the ****-up snowmen and polar bears seem oxymoronic here. We didn't decorate here. No gifting this year, excepting wireless TV headphones, ostensibly for G. But really, they're for both of us. When they're on, I don't have to listen to TV claptrap in the background all day long. And a new kitchen for me ( ), now we don't have to sell our home. No traditional Christmas dinner, we've a freezer full of other things to clear out before we leave. I'm thinkin' garlic-rosemary pork roast and a cauliflower kugel. We'll have deep dish apple (store bought :0 ) pie with ice cream for dessert. I haven't baked this year, though I broke down today and bought the ingredients for coconut cookies.

    Too many near and dear to me have left us this year. It's been a difficult year in so many ways. I'm looking forward to 2012. I just want to go home. *insert wistful emoticon here*

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    AV .

    Christmas is just not the same if the weather is delightful, warm, breezy and sunny. I like it to be cold, gray and a little snowy. The Christmas lights look fabulous against a gray backdrop during the day. :^0 Really, its just what I've come to know as Christmas.

    Getting a new kitchen is a most enjoyable experience (after the work is over). I got mine done 11 years ago and it still looks good. I opted for the built-in garbage receptacle, but if I had to do it over, I would have kept it as a cabinet instead. An extra cabinet is always nice.

    Garlic-Rosemary pork is sooo good. Cauliflower kugel sounds good too. How do you make that? Store bought pie is fine by me, especially with ice cream. I love coconut cookies, but I've never made them. Macaroons with a cherry on top. Yum. I had ones recently with drizzled chocolate on them. They were just heavenly. o:-)

    You've had a really tough year, but it sounds like things will get better for you in 2012. Its so hard being away from home for too long. Whoever said "be it ever so humble, theres no place like home", hit the nail on the head.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    10 oz. lightly steamed cauliflower chopped into 1/2 inch pieces
    1/2 medium onion, chopped
    1/2 cup cottage cheese
    1/2 cup shredded cheddar cheese
    2 eggs
    1/4 tsp salt
    1/8 tsp pepper
    paprika

    Preheat oven to 350.
    Combine cauliflower, onion, cottage cheese, cheddar, eggs, salt and pepper in a large mixing bowl and mix very well. Spray an 8"x8" baking dish with nonstick cooking spray and spread the cauliflower mixture evenly on the bottom. Sprinkle paprika lightly ove the top and bake for 50 to 60 minutes, until the kugel is set and lightly browned. As far as I can tell, if it's lightly browned, it's set. Let cool slightly before cutting to serve. About 5 servings...

    I came across this recipe looking for low carb, easy to fix things for G's mom to eat. She loved it, I love it. It makes for great leftovers, and tastes good cold. :)

    I figure I'll bake the cookies tomorrow or Friday.

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    AV .

    I always loved cauliflower with cheese sauce. I thought there would be noodles in there somewhere.

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    seanferd

    Do you get pissed off if someone says Happy Holidays or something other than Merry Christmas? No? Yeah, most other people don't either. Political correctness has nothing to do with it. (But you are free to keep your religion out of our government.)

    Now, if you are the sort who <i>demands</i> to receive a response of Merry Christmas, as if you are in charge of of what people say, then Bah Humbug to you.

    So Happy Christmas and a wonderful New Year to you.

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    AnsuGisalas

    But don't mess with the Yule Puck... he's like the Elvis of apeshit.

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    AV .

    To each his own. I'm just amazed that some people carry political correctness to the point of ridiculousness. This just cracks me up

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-06/news/30483627_1_tree-lighting-holiday-tree-christmas-tree

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too.

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    After Chafee lit the "holiday" tree, a few dozen carolers interrupted a performance by a children's chorus to sing "O Christmas Tree." The dispute also prompted the Providence diocese to schedule a competing Christmas tree lighting a block from the Statehouse. A Republican state lawmaker erected a tree in a Statehouse hallway to give Rhode Island residents an alternative to the official state "holiday" tree.

    Definitely not in the spirit of the holiday, and One More Sign that the symbols have become more important than the reason for celebrating.

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    AnsuGisalas

    it's only a question of time before religion will be the target of intolerance, itself. What with the going around and the coming around.

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    john.a.wills

    Christianity, the religion of which you are obviously mainly speaking, has been the object of intolerance for nearly 2000 years. Adherents of such religions as secular inhumanism and communism are the main bigots at present. Take a look at the references on the main page of catholicleague.org for some examples.

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    AnsuGisalas

    "Officer, yes, I killed that one, but the guy next door has killed five this week alone, so he's obvious the main murderer these days".

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    No the Catholics during the Inquisition didn't tell their Solders to Put Everyone to the Sword and God will recognize his own.

    Nor much more recently did the Christan's start genocide on the Muslims in Europe which was the direct start of the current conflict and the direct cause of the rise of Fundamentalists Muslims to their current level today.

    Sure Christians also killed Ben Laden which has only made things worse with the media showing Mass Celebrations in the US when it was announced that they had got him.

    John do you have any idea just how bad that looked to people tottering in other parts of the world?

    With Christians being actively involved in the current conflicts it's only making things much worse and even less Religious Tolerance is actually happening while all the time more Intolerance and more Fundamentalists Figureheads are springing up on both sides of the Religious Divide between Christians and Muslims.

    You have young kids on both sides wanting to kill their perceived enemies when they have had no direct contact with their perceived enemy and they are just following what they are told.

    Sure you may not see any Moderate Muslims portrayed in the Media but then again you don't see any Moderate Christians either.

    Now lets burn a copy of the Koran I'm free to do what I like and no one will ever be offended because I'm free to do as I please. [/Cynicism]

    if you want problems the Media is doing exactly the right thing to promote them and the General Population on all sides is blindly following.

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    AV .

    It was about bringing a mad man and his minions that mercilessly murdered over 3000 innocent people in the US to justice. It took ten long years. The US did the world a favor. Its a victory for Christians and Muslims, in my opinion. Its finally justice for the people that lost their lives.

    I think the world should be celebrating with us. Bin Laden can never carry something like that out again, anywhere. This wasn't our choice; we were attacked. It wasn't about religion. There were Muslims that died in the WTC too.

    The extremes of any religion, thankfully, are not the mainstream.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Usually I frown on US wet jobs on foreign grounds.

    I did think the Bin Laden mission was promisingly well done. A nice change from the decades of bumbling politically messed up crap: Like forcing the spec ops to attempt a night-mission in broad daylight to make it coincide with an "important" domestic news slot.

    The long term effects of this mission are hard to predict: so far it does not seem to have caused many problems; I figure Bin Laden had become a bit of a burden to some of his protectors, so they're not overly upset that he's gone without them needing to dirty their hands with it.

    I still think a Moderate Imam should've called a Fatwa on Bin Laden's *** for giving Islam a bad name... that would've been interesting.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    That there is a Long Lead Time between events and the repercussions that they spawn.

    Don't get me wrong I'm not personally looing any sleep over Bin Laden but it is being used against the US and it will at some point in the future hurt your country.

    Throwing his sorry A$$ in jail would have been so much better but the Televised Celebrations in the US was the main thing I was commenting on above. That is what is going to hurt your country.

    As an example Muslims in the Middle East where Protesting and then on British News it was reported with a Video Clip followed by a story on an Animal Rights Protest. The Protesting Muslims saw that as the British thinking more about Animals than they thought of those Protesting. So the British placed a greater value on Animals than they do on Human Life. It's wrong and silly but it is how things like that are spun and believed without question.

    And no matter how you see something you can bet your last $ that others will spin it in such a way to suit their ends. That is currently happening with the Fanatics. His location was more of an embarrassment to Pakistan and they are not overly worried but that Yank Imam in the Middle East is a different story and isn't doing anything to help end the current Tensions.

    Like I said above it's the Fanatics we have to worry about not the Main Stream and unfortantly what Fanatics do isn't really related to what actually happened. For Instance Bin Laden hated the US but got traction because the Muslims in Bosnia where placed in a position of Complete Genocide. He twisted those events to suit his ends and blamed the US for what happened in Europe. Didn't matter that the US had no involvement they where his Evil Party and those that followed him didn't ask too many questions as to why he believed that.

    Unfortantly the Fanatics see their fellows Deaths in a different light to the way we look at things and have different grades of Murder. The Musulms who dies on 9-11-2001 where either Traitors or Martyrs and either way they don't matter anywhere near as much as those Americans Killed which is great.

    Doesn't matter that it's Hyprocital or just plain stupid that is how they think and it's so wrong I don't know where to even start on that one.

    Of course now you can bet someone is going to jump on me for saying it's great killing Americans. Doesn't matter it's not what I said someone will read this and believe it. That is part of the problem and just as bad as those who preach the killing to begin with.

    OH and Happy New Year as it's happening in the next 25 hours here.

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    .Martin.

    to you AV, as well as all at TR.

    looks like this year is going to be a lazy one for me, but in the scheme of things, that's looking to be a good thing

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    GSG

    We're going non-traditional at Christmas, since Thanksgiving was the typical feast. Instead, we're grilling steaks, and I'm making a recipe I found on the internet for something called "Butter Tarts". Supposedly, it's very popular in Canada.

    As a kid I remember being at home and someone covered up and in a mask opening our door and throwing a present at Mom and running away. Scared the ever-lovin' #$%$#% out of my Mom. Turns out that was a family tradition of some friends of our family. Not sure where it came from, but this ladies parents were from somewhere in Europe and she said that it was a common practice for that culture. Does that sound familiar to anyone?

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    But not the other thing though I may try it on SWMBO this year.

    May add something to the day but it's likely just to be Big Black Bruises on me. Now I wonder how a 30 Kilo MIG Welder would go being thrown at SWMBO? :^0

    It's a present I bought for myself this week.

    Col 0:-)

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    JamesRL

    My mom, who is no longer with us, used to make the best butter tarts(never mind joking about my mom HAL/COL). Shelley OS, who doesn't come round, was making some yesterday in Dublin, they don't have the same kind of shortening, but she found a substitute that seems to work.

    If you want variaions you can add raisins, currents or even pecans to your butter tarts.

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    it's generally Merry Christmas where I come from. The town we live in is quite Christian, but we do have Muslims and other faiths in our community as well. I try to wish the proper seasonal greeting to my friends of other faiths, but sometimes I slip. I'm thankful that they are understanding :) .

    Christmas dinner will be at one of my brother's this year; he's the only one with lots of space and kidlets. We do a pot luck type thing with me doing the turkey, gravy, and cranberries, and the others splitting up what's left (there's five of us plus we have two close family friends that have joined us the last two years). It's snowing here today so we'll have a white Christmas and hopefully the little ones willl get to play together in the snow on Christmas Day.

    I've had a long 3-4 weeks. I pulled some muscles in my chest and shoulders, have a pinched nerve in my neck and arthritis, and managed to get a kidney infection. I've not been a happy camper to say the least (feel bad for Darryl right about now, he's had to deal with me being a bit of a freak through all of this). I'm in physio twice a week and that's been helpful thank goodness. This is the longest I've sat in front of my pc in about a month.

    Oh, and my Christmas present came yesterday....a new BB Playbook ! I love it so far!!! Darryl ordered it when they were on for 199.00 (although i did notice that our boxing week flyers have them on for the same starting price again after Christmas).

    Anyway...enough about me...Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays everyone from our house to yours. :)

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    AV .

    I think it adds to the holidays. Not so much snow that its hard to travel, just a little.

    Most people where I live say Merry Christmas too, but its very diversified where I work in northern NJ. I usually stick with Happy Holidays for the people I'm not sure of.

    We do the same thing for Christmas. Everyone makes a dish. This year we had ham and mashed potatoes as the main course. My dish was string beans and almonds drizzled with extra virgin olive oil. It was all good. I got to see my 2-year-old nephew. He is into everything. My brother hosted the party and his house is locked down like a vault to keep little fingers out. He's a very curious baby boy, but sooo cute. My niece is 8 years old and she just got her ears pierced. She acted so grown-up about it. Becoming a little woman. Oh, remember the days!

    I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. Pulled muscles and a pinched nerve are just pure misery. {{{{HUGS}}}} I hope you feel better soon.
    Your BB Playbook is a real nice present. Its the gift that keeps on giving. Have fun with it.

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and yours and everyone on TR. You guys are great.

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    I started to post this yesterday (Dec 22) and got sidetracked by a recalcitrant reimage.

    So here it is, two days worth of good wishes for everybody here on TR. And for everybody who isn't on TR, as well.! :)

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    JamesRL

    I say Merry Christmas, but I remember Happy Holidays as a popular song that was written before I was born. It is the thought that counts.

    Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy New Year to all.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Up here Christ (still) has no place in the name of the festivities: It's Jul in Danish, and Joulu in Finnish.
    It's still the old-school solstice eat-fest at it's core. So, the nonchristian additions (tree and gift-bringer, for instance) sit really well with it... no "message" to detract from, you see... apart from the old message of "Ok, the worst frost is still to come - but at least it won't be getting darker anymore - so let's celebrate that, and eat all the stuff that won't last much longer anyway!"

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    AV .

    December 23 is officially Festivus. For those not familiar with this holiday, here's a little background.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus

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    NickNielsen Moderator



    I prefer the O'Keefe's tradition where Festivus can be any day you want it to be.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    Is what I see the Sumer Solstice as, though as I'm in the Southern Hemisphere things are a bit different here. That Large over sized Sugar Rush here results in lots of Nasty people complaining that things don't work!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NnBxaToKEYy

    Now just how many people are Killed during Shopping while near the December Deadline or the Correct Term that so many actually forget Silly Season.

    Though just to rub your nose in it all I can say is You Can't Fatten a Thoroughbred. Gaining weight isn't something I had to worry about but **** Up Sheep being given to me are another story. :^0

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    AV .

    Lucky. Though it wouldn't be Christmas to me if it wasn't dark, cold and dreary everyday.

    Yes, it really is the silly season. People lose their minds trying to get that special toy or gift. I really could do without the gift giving part and just get together for a party.

    I used to be able to eat whatever I want, just like you, but now just looking at all of the food thats around everywhere is enough to put a pound or two on the bod.

    **** up sheep? Hmm . . . . You can always regift it. :^0

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    I just give them to Kiwi Fiends that I know.

    They are mightily amused by the Battery packs that the **** Up Sheep have and the noises that they make.

    I was silly enough to be in a shop yesterday and watching a couple of women fighting over something. They destroyed it and then triumphantly took the remains that they had to pay for it. Must be the Shops Perfect piece of rubbish. Put 1 Price on it and sell it twice. :^0

    However currently here we have 2 Cyclones apparently forming One in the Coral Sea which may slightly affect me and one North of Darwin which may do a Tracy and destroy the Place early Christmas Morning while everyone is asleep waiting for Santa to arrive.

    Now I've got to go and eat some Chocolate I'm beginning to enjoy Growing Old Disgracefully. :^0

    Though I'll be the first to admit that having kids around makes Christmas completely different. With the Wifes Youngest being 36 this year that's long behind me so I'm just grumpy.

    Col 0:-)

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    AnsuGisalas

    The traditional food for the yule here is a big mustard-glazed ham, with some even more traditional garnishes. Very rural.

    We used to do that. The first year we did, we had amazing luck (as later became apparent) : the ham didn't taste at all like a hog. You know, that sweaty, even uriny half-taste. It wasn't there. The first year.
    Now we've had less good luck (despite buying high-quality meat) for three consecutive years, so now that has to end.

    So, we're having Indian food.
    Tiger prawns, Biryanis, Samosas, Pakoras, Butter Chicken, Lamb curry, Chicken curry, Naan breads, Raita, etc.

    We don't have to cook it ourselves, either.

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    JamesRL

    Turkey is the tradition here, but when I was a kid, my Grandparents liked goose, so we had that quite a few times. I will be having turkey on Christmas this year.

    I quite like a good ham. I think what you are tasting isn't the hog taste, its the type of nitrates used in the smoking and curing processes. Some are stronger than other for sure.

    I love Indian food. I've made butter chicken myself (ok with a ready made sauce). My city is about 25% south asian, so I can get great samosas cheap. I often buy microwavable indian dishes for one person meals, and just put some naan under the broiler. I love lamb. Wish I could share that feast with you.

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    AnsuGisalas

    ...and he was nodding to himself and said "Yes yes... I like!" :)

    I think he feels he's finally found a sensible finnish person
    I would imagine that the huge slab of meat Finns usually have for christmas must be an intimidating idea for the Indian aesthetic...

    My uncle had a farm for a while, with geese. So in those years we had goose for christmas. Otherwise we've had Turkey a lot, since my Granddad and Grandma had been in the states so many times they'd grown fond of that tradition. I liked goose a lot, it's not dry at all - but there's a lot of meat on one of those bad boys, so it's sort of out our league in our smaller present circles, back then we were six adults, now we're just three.

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    AV .

    What does goose taste like? I'm thinking maybe it must be similar to duck. We usually have turkey on Thanksgiving, so on Christmas we have either ham or roast beef.

    Ham can be very good if it's not too strong. Its the only time I really eat it. My sister, who is a nurse, always warns the family that ham is not the best for you, but I tell her that once a year isn't going to kill her.

    I've never had butter chicken, but it sounds really good. I have to admit that when I read Ansu's post, I thought a Samosa was a Mimosa (a very nice drink). I don't eat much Indian food, but I do love lamb. Every now and then I'll get some, but its so expensive here that I don't buy it much.

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    AnsuGisalas

    I love the textures and the flavors, and how they play together. It has freshness from the vegetables to balance out the greasiness from the frying, it has mildness (batter and potatoes) and spices.
    I guess I've always been a fan of that kind of baked-in-food. I like those central-american ones too, you know, the ones whose name I don't remember
    It's not health food, but delicacies don't have to be :)

    AFAIR, Goose is less gamey than duck. It has a good grease balance, so it's also less dry than duck, and less compact.

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    JamesRL

    ....Empenadas

    We have very good samosas here, but then my town is about 25% from South Asia. The local indian supermarket has them....

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    AV .

    My family get-together usually consists of ham or roast beef. Ham is so much easier though, so thats what we'll be having. I don't have to cook for this holiday. Yay!

    Having Indian food on christmas is definitely different. Its always nice if you don't have to cook. That way you can just enjoy the party.

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    Yum

    NickNielsen Moderator

    We'll be having ham this year.

    But if I leave Saturday evening, I think I can make it there, eat, and still be back for work on Monday morning. B-)

    What's the address, again?

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    I'm not politically correct, either. I'm familiar with the 'origins' of Christmas as we know it, but I'm not willing to shed this particular family tradition and way of attending Christmas.

    It doesn't feel like Christmas to me this year, for several reasons. I'm in FL, the weather is delightfully warm, breezy, and sunny. Palm trees look kinda funny lit up, and the ****-up snowmen and polar bears seem oxymoronic here. We didn't decorate here. No gifting this year, excepting wireless TV headphones, ostensibly for G. But really, they're for both of us. When they're on, I don't have to listen to TV claptrap in the background all day long. And a new kitchen for me ( ), now we don't have to sell our home. No traditional Christmas dinner, we've a freezer full of other things to clear out before we leave. I'm thinkin' garlic-rosemary pork roast and a cauliflower kugel. We'll have deep dish apple (store bought :0 ) pie with ice cream for dessert. I haven't baked this year, though I broke down today and bought the ingredients for coconut cookies.

    Too many near and dear to me have left us this year. It's been a difficult year in so many ways. I'm looking forward to 2012. I just want to go home. *insert wistful emoticon here*

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    AV .

    Christmas is just not the same if the weather is delightful, warm, breezy and sunny. I like it to be cold, gray and a little snowy. The Christmas lights look fabulous against a gray backdrop during the day. :^0 Really, its just what I've come to know as Christmas.

    Getting a new kitchen is a most enjoyable experience (after the work is over). I got mine done 11 years ago and it still looks good. I opted for the built-in garbage receptacle, but if I had to do it over, I would have kept it as a cabinet instead. An extra cabinet is always nice.

    Garlic-Rosemary pork is sooo good. Cauliflower kugel sounds good too. How do you make that? Store bought pie is fine by me, especially with ice cream. I love coconut cookies, but I've never made them. Macaroons with a cherry on top. Yum. I had ones recently with drizzled chocolate on them. They were just heavenly. o:-)

    You've had a really tough year, but it sounds like things will get better for you in 2012. Its so hard being away from home for too long. Whoever said "be it ever so humble, theres no place like home", hit the nail on the head.

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    boxfiddler Moderator

    10 oz. lightly steamed cauliflower chopped into 1/2 inch pieces
    1/2 medium onion, chopped
    1/2 cup cottage cheese
    1/2 cup shredded cheddar cheese
    2 eggs
    1/4 tsp salt
    1/8 tsp pepper
    paprika

    Preheat oven to 350.
    Combine cauliflower, onion, cottage cheese, cheddar, eggs, salt and pepper in a large mixing bowl and mix very well. Spray an 8"x8" baking dish with nonstick cooking spray and spread the cauliflower mixture evenly on the bottom. Sprinkle paprika lightly ove the top and bake for 50 to 60 minutes, until the kugel is set and lightly browned. As far as I can tell, if it's lightly browned, it's set. Let cool slightly before cutting to serve. About 5 servings...

    I came across this recipe looking for low carb, easy to fix things for G's mom to eat. She loved it, I love it. It makes for great leftovers, and tastes good cold. :)

    I figure I'll bake the cookies tomorrow or Friday.

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    AV .

    I always loved cauliflower with cheese sauce. I thought there would be noodles in there somewhere.

    AV

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    seanferd

    Do you get pissed off if someone says Happy Holidays or something other than Merry Christmas? No? Yeah, most other people don't either. Political correctness has nothing to do with it. (But you are free to keep your religion out of our government.)

    Now, if you are the sort who <i>demands</i> to receive a response of Merry Christmas, as if you are in charge of of what people say, then Bah Humbug to you.

    So Happy Christmas and a wonderful New Year to you.

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    AnsuGisalas

    But don't mess with the Yule Puck... he's like the Elvis of apeshit.

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    AV .

    To each his own. I'm just amazed that some people carry political correctness to the point of ridiculousness. This just cracks me up

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-06/news/30483627_1_tree-lighting-holiday-tree-christmas-tree

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too.

    AV

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    After Chafee lit the "holiday" tree, a few dozen carolers interrupted a performance by a children's chorus to sing "O Christmas Tree." The dispute also prompted the Providence diocese to schedule a competing Christmas tree lighting a block from the Statehouse. A Republican state lawmaker erected a tree in a Statehouse hallway to give Rhode Island residents an alternative to the official state "holiday" tree.

    Definitely not in the spirit of the holiday, and One More Sign that the symbols have become more important than the reason for celebrating.

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    AnsuGisalas

    it's only a question of time before religion will be the target of intolerance, itself. What with the going around and the coming around.

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    john.a.wills

    Christianity, the religion of which you are obviously mainly speaking, has been the object of intolerance for nearly 2000 years. Adherents of such religions as secular inhumanism and communism are the main bigots at present. Take a look at the references on the main page of catholicleague.org for some examples.

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    AnsuGisalas

    "Officer, yes, I killed that one, but the guy next door has killed five this week alone, so he's obvious the main murderer these days".

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    No the Catholics during the Inquisition didn't tell their Solders to Put Everyone to the Sword and God will recognize his own.

    Nor much more recently did the Christan's start genocide on the Muslims in Europe which was the direct start of the current conflict and the direct cause of the rise of Fundamentalists Muslims to their current level today.

    Sure Christians also killed Ben Laden which has only made things worse with the media showing Mass Celebrations in the US when it was announced that they had got him.

    John do you have any idea just how bad that looked to people tottering in other parts of the world?

    With Christians being actively involved in the current conflicts it's only making things much worse and even less Religious Tolerance is actually happening while all the time more Intolerance and more Fundamentalists Figureheads are springing up on both sides of the Religious Divide between Christians and Muslims.

    You have young kids on both sides wanting to kill their perceived enemies when they have had no direct contact with their perceived enemy and they are just following what they are told.

    Sure you may not see any Moderate Muslims portrayed in the Media but then again you don't see any Moderate Christians either.

    Now lets burn a copy of the Koran I'm free to do what I like and no one will ever be offended because I'm free to do as I please. [/Cynicism]

    if you want problems the Media is doing exactly the right thing to promote them and the General Population on all sides is blindly following.

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    AV .

    It was about bringing a mad man and his minions that mercilessly murdered over 3000 innocent people in the US to justice. It took ten long years. The US did the world a favor. Its a victory for Christians and Muslims, in my opinion. Its finally justice for the people that lost their lives.

    I think the world should be celebrating with us. Bin Laden can never carry something like that out again, anywhere. This wasn't our choice; we were attacked. It wasn't about religion. There were Muslims that died in the WTC too.

    The extremes of any religion, thankfully, are not the mainstream.

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    AnsuGisalas

    Usually I frown on US wet jobs on foreign grounds.

    I did think the Bin Laden mission was promisingly well done. A nice change from the decades of bumbling politically messed up crap: Like forcing the spec ops to attempt a night-mission in broad daylight to make it coincide with an "important" domestic news slot.

    The long term effects of this mission are hard to predict: so far it does not seem to have caused many problems; I figure Bin Laden had become a bit of a burden to some of his protectors, so they're not overly upset that he's gone without them needing to dirty their hands with it.

    I still think a Moderate Imam should've called a Fatwa on Bin Laden's *** for giving Islam a bad name... that would've been interesting.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    That there is a Long Lead Time between events and the repercussions that they spawn.

    Don't get me wrong I'm not personally looing any sleep over Bin Laden but it is being used against the US and it will at some point in the future hurt your country.

    Throwing his sorry A$$ in jail would have been so much better but the Televised Celebrations in the US was the main thing I was commenting on above. That is what is going to hurt your country.

    As an example Muslims in the Middle East where Protesting and then on British News it was reported with a Video Clip followed by a story on an Animal Rights Protest. The Protesting Muslims saw that as the British thinking more about Animals than they thought of those Protesting. So the British placed a greater value on Animals than they do on Human Life. It's wrong and silly but it is how things like that are spun and believed without question.

    And no matter how you see something you can bet your last $ that others will spin it in such a way to suit their ends. That is currently happening with the Fanatics. His location was more of an embarrassment to Pakistan and they are not overly worried but that Yank Imam in the Middle East is a different story and isn't doing anything to help end the current Tensions.

    Like I said above it's the Fanatics we have to worry about not the Main Stream and unfortantly what Fanatics do isn't really related to what actually happened. For Instance Bin Laden hated the US but got traction because the Muslims in Bosnia where placed in a position of Complete Genocide. He twisted those events to suit his ends and blamed the US for what happened in Europe. Didn't matter that the US had no involvement they where his Evil Party and those that followed him didn't ask too many questions as to why he believed that.

    Unfortantly the Fanatics see their fellows Deaths in a different light to the way we look at things and have different grades of Murder. The Musulms who dies on 9-11-2001 where either Traitors or Martyrs and either way they don't matter anywhere near as much as those Americans Killed which is great.

    Doesn't matter that it's Hyprocital or just plain stupid that is how they think and it's so wrong I don't know where to even start on that one.

    Of course now you can bet someone is going to jump on me for saying it's great killing Americans. Doesn't matter it's not what I said someone will read this and believe it. That is part of the problem and just as bad as those who preach the killing to begin with.

    OH and Happy New Year as it's happening in the next 25 hours here.

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    .Martin.

    to you AV, as well as all at TR.

    looks like this year is going to be a lazy one for me, but in the scheme of things, that's looking to be a good thing

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    GSG

    We're going non-traditional at Christmas, since Thanksgiving was the typical feast. Instead, we're grilling steaks, and I'm making a recipe I found on the internet for something called "Butter Tarts". Supposedly, it's very popular in Canada.

    As a kid I remember being at home and someone covered up and in a mask opening our door and throwing a present at Mom and running away. Scared the ever-lovin' #$%$#% out of my Mom. Turns out that was a family tradition of some friends of our family. Not sure where it came from, but this ladies parents were from somewhere in Europe and she said that it was a common practice for that culture. Does that sound familiar to anyone?

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    But not the other thing though I may try it on SWMBO this year.

    May add something to the day but it's likely just to be Big Black Bruises on me. Now I wonder how a 30 Kilo MIG Welder would go being thrown at SWMBO? :^0

    It's a present I bought for myself this week.

    Col 0:-)

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    JamesRL

    My mom, who is no longer with us, used to make the best butter tarts(never mind joking about my mom HAL/COL). Shelley OS, who doesn't come round, was making some yesterday in Dublin, they don't have the same kind of shortening, but she found a substitute that seems to work.

    If you want variaions you can add raisins, currents or even pecans to your butter tarts.

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    PurpleSkys Moderator

    it's generally Merry Christmas where I come from. The town we live in is quite Christian, but we do have Muslims and other faiths in our community as well. I try to wish the proper seasonal greeting to my friends of other faiths, but sometimes I slip. I'm thankful that they are understanding :) .

    Christmas dinner will be at one of my brother's this year; he's the only one with lots of space and kidlets. We do a pot luck type thing with me doing the turkey, gravy, and cranberries, and the others splitting up what's left (there's five of us plus we have two close family friends that have joined us the last two years). It's snowing here today so we'll have a white Christmas and hopefully the little ones willl get to play together in the snow on Christmas Day.

    I've had a long 3-4 weeks. I pulled some muscles in my chest and shoulders, have a pinched nerve in my neck and arthritis, and managed to get a kidney infection. I've not been a happy camper to say the least (feel bad for Darryl right about now, he's had to deal with me being a bit of a freak through all of this). I'm in physio twice a week and that's been helpful thank goodness. This is the longest I've sat in front of my pc in about a month.

    Oh, and my Christmas present came yesterday....a new BB Playbook ! I love it so far!!! Darryl ordered it when they were on for 199.00 (although i did notice that our boxing week flyers have them on for the same starting price again after Christmas).

    Anyway...enough about me...Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays everyone from our house to yours. :)

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    AV .

    I think it adds to the holidays. Not so much snow that its hard to travel, just a little.

    Most people where I live say Merry Christmas too, but its very diversified where I work in northern NJ. I usually stick with Happy Holidays for the people I'm not sure of.

    We do the same thing for Christmas. Everyone makes a dish. This year we had ham and mashed potatoes as the main course. My dish was string beans and almonds drizzled with extra virgin olive oil. It was all good. I got to see my 2-year-old nephew. He is into everything. My brother hosted the party and his house is locked down like a vault to keep little fingers out. He's a very curious baby boy, but sooo cute. My niece is 8 years old and she just got her ears pierced. She acted so grown-up about it. Becoming a little woman. Oh, remember the days!

    I'm sorry to hear about your health issues. Pulled muscles and a pinched nerve are just pure misery. {{{{HUGS}}}} I hope you feel better soon.
    Your BB Playbook is a real nice present. Its the gift that keeps on giving. Have fun with it.

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and yours and everyone on TR. You guys are great.

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    I started to post this yesterday (Dec 22) and got sidetracked by a recalcitrant reimage.

    So here it is, two days worth of good wishes for everybody here on TR. And for everybody who isn't on TR, as well.! :)

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    JamesRL

    I say Merry Christmas, but I remember Happy Holidays as a popular song that was written before I was born. It is the thought that counts.

    Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy New Year to all.