+ 1 Votes Not everyone in Slat Lake is a Mormon, and even some Mormons are more Deadly Ernest 1 year ago in love with their party than other church members. Religion is NOT enough to vote for someone if that's the only factor you're using. yet many feel the party they stand for is sufficient by itself. + 0 Votes Pseudoliberal media john.a.wills 1 year ago is probably all we need to explain this. Just reading the article through suggests imbalance in the author. Of course, there are many things seriously amiss with Romney, but there are even more important things amiss with Obama. If one tries to measure the many and the important with the same metric one is ultimately left with mere gut feelings. I suggested in another thread how one should proceed, so I will not repeat the description of my metric here. + 0 Votes Nobody has ever been able to explain to me how... AnsuGisalas 1 year ago just how the mainstream, centrist, pro-status-quo media of the US, with all its economic incentives clearly pulling it towards centrist defense of the status quo... just how that media could possibly be liberal.I've heard it repeated many times, of course. But no explanation has ever been given to me on how it could possibly be true. + 0 Votes That's because widespread "liberal media" is a myth JJFitz 1 year ago The term "liberal media" is Orwellian newspeak for those news agencies who are not in lock-step agreement with conservatives. They are the fact checkers.Remember the Romney aide who said, "We are not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers."?Well, there you go. + 0 Votes yeah right, like the liberal actors who went on the air during Vietnam Deadly Ernest 1 year ago checked their facts about North Vietnamese behaviours and activities!! + 1 Votes There should be a difference between actors and reporters JJFitz 1 year ago but I am starting to have my doubts. + 1 Votes but then again AnsuGisalas 1 year ago there should be a difference between those two groups and politicians too... + 1 Votes Most people here in Massachusetts do not support Mitt either. JJFitz 1 year ago In 2006, while governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney spent 212 days outside of the state.If he becomes president, I wonder which country he will be spending most of his time in? + 1 Votes Nice point, but you can be sure he WON'T be spending the time Deadly Ernest 1 year ago bowing to some Moslem King. + 0 Votes No, but I can be pretty sure that he has magic underwear. (nt) JJFitz 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes Oooh, soudns like JJ goes commando. Study why they wear it, it's Deadly Ernest 1 year ago no more than why a married person wears a wedding ring or anyone wears a uniform of some sort - a special reminder, but it's as underwear so it lasts longer. + 0 Votes huh? JJFitz 1 year ago So you think underwear lasts longer than a wedding ring? That's disgusting. + 1 Votes Only if your last name is 'Kardashian'. No text. CharlieSpencer_Palmetto 1 year ago . + 0 Votes or Obama senior -nt Deadly Ernest 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes lasts longer than the uniform that wears out quick mentioned just prior Deadly Ernest 1 year ago to the lasting comment. + 0 Votes That is poor sentence structure. (nt) JJFitz 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes hey JJ, i wrote it late at night after a long day, so sue me -nt Deadly Ernest 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes No need to sue JJFitz 1 year ago but I hope you can understand my confusion. + 0 Votes Huh? CharlieSpencer_Palmetto 1 year ago You assume people automatically support a candidate because they have a religion in common. + 1 Votes The article doesn't focus on religion... AnsuGisalas 1 year ago Mittens is well-liked in that area for saving the Olympics, among other things...And still they think he's too Harvey Dent... + 0 Votes Not everyone in Salt Lake City likes him JJFitz 1 year ago I have been to Salt Lake City many times. Believe me, not everyone there likes what he did to "fix" the Olympics. + 0 Votes And not.... jp85257 1 year ago every person in Kenya is supporting Obama. What's your point? + 0 Votes The point is JJFitz 1 year ago Kenyans can't vote for an American president. + 0 Votes But it appears they can be one -nt Deadly Ernest 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes Wow. Not you too? (nt) JJFitz 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes His father was Kenyan, so he is by derivation -nt Deadly Ernest 1 year ago nt + 1 Votes You're referring to ethnicity, not nationality, right? No text. CharlieSpencer_Palmetto 1 year ago . + 0 Votes If.. jp85257 1 year ago they're Democrats they can. Heck, they can even vote for Obama after they've died. + 0 Votes I hope you really don't believe that. (nt) JJFitz 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes why not, many US politicians freely admit the graveyard votes well -nt Deadly Ernest 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes Maybe that's why Texas john.a.wills 1 year ago is refusing to let OSCE monitors inspect its election process. I read about this yesterday in a news wire report attached to yahoo.nl, but it doesn't seem to be in today's SF Chronicle, despite the chance of mocking Texan quasiconservatives as the chauvinists or cheaters they surely are. + 0 Votes Hey, the Democrats in Texas have a history of turning out more votes in Deadly Ernest 1 year ago some counties in some elections than there are registered voters in the county. Makes you wonder which counties the Republicans do that in or do they just take mroe care to hide it. + 0 Votes You just have to ... jp85257 1 year ago research the Governor's race for Washington state in 2004 or the Al Franken election to know what they're capable of doing. It happens a lot more than people are willing to admit. + 0 Votes Even Lyin' Ryan doesn't believe in that! AnsuGisalas 1 year ago hahaha + 2 Votes Proof, please. CharlieSpencer_Palmetto 1 year ago After all the time wasted in SC with a voter ID bill, and the money wasted defending it in multiple courts, there are still no documented cases of voter fraud in the state since Reconstruction, and far more cases of legal voters being denied access to the polls. What a waste 'protecting' us from something that has occurred less frequently than shark attacks at Myrtle Beach or earthquakes in Charleston. + 0 Votes I suspect he's going back to the research, after the fact, on the 1960 Deadly Ernest 1 year ago presidential election where a report found that most of the graveyards around Chicago voted Democrat for Kennedy. In a couple of counties in Texas the number of votes counted equalled one and a half times that of the number of registered voters - neat trick.One part of the research showed a small 3 bedroom house in Chicago appeared to have 56 voters registered to it - talk abut cramped quarters.It was interesting reading about the things that went on. Kennedy was once quoted as saying that in one Senatorial election he won as his people got around to more graveyards than his opponent - it was an accepted practice to vote the graveyard then, and would appear it still is. + 1 Votes 50 years ago. CharlieSpencer_Palmetto 1 year ago And my SC state tax dollars aren't being wasted in IL, TX, or MA. + 0 Votes latest evidence is that it still happens, just not so blatant -nt Deadly Ernest 1 year ago nt + 0 Votes latest evidence? JJFitz 1 year ago Deadly Ernest,Please cite your sources of confirmed cases of voter fraud.Then compare your figure to the over 130 million people who voted in the 2008 presidential election.Absentee ballot voting by using the names of dead people still on the reigstration rolls is more significant than voter impersonation at the polls yet we hear very little discussion from either major party about that.If the government wants to spend money to reduce voter fraud, they should hold up a mirror to themselves and say, "Gee, we should clean up our registration list from readily available information (death records)on a more frequent basis." + 0 Votes JJ the problem is getting enough evidence to be safe from legal action Deadly Ernest 1 year ago however, here's something more recent than the 1960s, as asked, of votes being made by the deceased on 1993 -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Stinsonunstated voting fraud in 1996 with David Thibodaux - Chris JohnMedia reports on elections as recent as the US 2008 election have claims of the recently deceased voting from the graveyard via an absentee or postal vote. Also Caging of votes is increasing as well, according to some reports. + 0 Votes RE: "safe from legal action" JJFitz 1 year ago So Wikipedia is your best source?Did you know that most universities do not allow students to cite Wikipedia? I am sure you know why.Please find a reputable source and then report back. I will be happy to read it.FYI: Even Wikipedia has a list of hoaxes posted to Wikipedia. :) + 0 Votes To think that this problem is unique to either party is truly naive. (nt) JJFitz 1 year ago (nt) + 0 Votes Please explain.... jp85257 1 year ago You start off by saying "I hope you don't really believe that" and end up saying "to think that this problem is unique to either party is truly naive".So, you don't believe it's happening but, if it is, both sides are doing it?? + 0 Votes I apologize JJFitz 1 year ago for not making myself clear. When I said, "I hope you don't really believe that", I was responding to your post "they're Democrats they can. Heck, they can even vote for Obama after they've died."You are implying that only Democrats commit voter fraud. If you really believe that then you are lost. Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck would be proud of you. + 1 Votes Voter fraud is an imaginary problem AnsuGisalas 1 year ago electoral fraud on the other hand is where republicans really shine. + 0 Votes The Republicans have voter fraud all wrong JJFitz 1 year ago Republicans have been fighting in various states to institute voter ID legislation for some time now.Voter ID's will only solve a tiny problem of people impersonating other voters. (voting on behalf of someone else)In the last presidential election, there were less than 100 recorded cases of voter fraud at the polls and even fewer convictions. That is a very small percentage considering that more than 130 million votes were cast. 0.0000077%. So, in my opinion, a voter id law is a solution looking for a problem. Absentee ballot fraud (dead people voting) may or may not be a problem but it can be solved with more frequent checks of the register. Compare the register to death records more frequently. It's a simple solution to a possible problem with no burden on the voter. + 1 Votes Thanks for the clarification jp85257 1 year ago NT + 0 Votes Pseudoliberal media john.a.wills 1 year ago is probably all we need to explain this. Just reading the article through suggests imbalance in the author. Of course, there are many things seriously amiss with Romney, but there are even more important things amiss with Obama. If one tries to measure the many and the important with the same metric one is ultimately left with mere gut feelings. I suggested in another thread how one should proceed, so I will not repeat the description of my metric here. + 1 Votes Most people here in Massachusetts do not support Mitt either. JJFitz 1 year ago In 2006, while governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney spent 212 days outside of the state.If he becomes president, I wonder which country he will be spending most of his time in? + 0 Votes Huh? CharlieSpencer_Palmetto 1 year ago You assume people automatically support a candidate because they have a religion in common. + 0 Votes And not.... jp85257 1 year ago every person in Kenya is supporting Obama. What's your point?