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A first look: So far the IZ3D 3D monitor is feeling a little flat

By Mark Kaelin

Okay, here is the setup. About two months ago I received a top-of-the-line Alienware Area-51 7500 for a review. It is an excellent PC and I highly recommend one if it falls within your budget. About that same time, Bill Detwiler and I came across a company selling a 3D monitor. The folks at IZ3D claim to have produced the world's first 3D monitor for gamers.

We thought this would be a great thing to hook up with the Alienware. One of the fastest and most powerful personal computers available paired up with a state of the art, bleeding-edge 3D monitor -- now that's geek in spades.

Unfortunately, we come to find that IZ3D has neglected to test their drivers with Windows Vista. As Aaron, one of the technical people at IZ3D put it, "it wasn't a priority." Getting the monitor working with specific showcase games was the priority (read World of Warcraft).

IZ3D wanted me to note that I am dealing with a pre-production model of the monitor and I am operating under the assumption that they are working on updating the drivers for Vista.

So here I am with this powerful PC and a 3D monitor that cannot be run in 3D. But all is not lost; I'm taking the 3D monitor home with me this weekend to see how it works with my Windows XP running Alienware. Look for an update next week.

The trip from Asia must have a rough one judging by the state of the shipping box.

About

Mark Kaelin is a CBS Interactive Senior Editor for TechRepublic. He is the host for the Microsoft Windows and Office blog, the Google in the Enterprise blog, the Five Apps blog and the Big Data Analytics blog.

27 comments
cptwaldo
cptwaldo

Update: We have resolved Mark's issues with the Vista Drivers. It turned out to be the Anti-virus software "AVG" that was not allowing our drivers to run properly. Last I heard from Mark, everything was working fine. I will let him fill you in on how it works.

oromis
oromis

Hope there are Open Source drivers for Linux... Vista's lame.

links
links

If software houses started developing linux compatible software, Vista would go down the drain... And here's something I read the other day, I quote,"...with Linux, everybody Winux..." No seriously... _________________________ AIT Tapes HP Sony

mackay_723
mackay_723

Just what I needed. An incomplete review to my inbox

Neon Samurai
Neon Samurai

How well does it work the monocular user? I have a heck of a time getting those 3D classes to work right in movies and such. (hehe.. ok, I thought that was funny. Maybe the other readers down an eye will see the humour.)

parrington
parrington

3-D Gaming and Vista? I have worked with both in over 10 games, Vista has serious performance issues, and whether the IZ3D has Vista drivers or not, if being used in true Gaming?....I wouldn't worry about the Vista drivers. XP has 6 years left of support, and I would stick with that irregardless of how cool it looks. My 2 cents.

dcrew
dcrew

come on stop teasing us and let us know if it works or not! i check this post every day hoping for an update. i want to know how well it works and if WoW looks good on it.

Mark W. Kaelin
Mark W. Kaelin moderator

I didn't realize the interest this interim post would generate - I apologize for the delay in updating. I had some vacation time to take.

n4aof
n4aof

What's with the STUPID comment about this being some kind of projection system with a small LCD and the image projected onto a screen?? Come on - get a tech guy to look at the hardware, not some incompetent who is writing a review specifically for the purpose of slamming a piece of hardware without actually bothering to test it. This entire review was totally unprofessional!

meryllogue
meryllogue

Yikes. He who lives in a glass house....

cptwaldo
cptwaldo

How many gamers actually use Vista right now anyway? For games....it's very unstable.

tryten
tryten

I have tested Dungeons and Dragons Online with Vista and was very unpleased with the incredible reduction in performance. Tested Oblivion, Counter Strike Source, Neverwinter Nights 2, STALKER, Battlefield 2142 and about 7 others and 90% of them had significant performance reduction compared to XP Pro. I have removed the hard drive and have placed it on the desk until some major improvements to vista are made. And if nothing is done...oh well, XP will be supported for 6 more years by Microsoft. And another Microsoft OS is scheduled for release in 09. Hope it gets off to a better start than vista.

ub748
ub748

First I have to agree with Tryten, who cares if it's Vista compatible. Most games take to much of a performance hit in Vista and true gamers out there won't use it. I find it interesting that the only people who really talk about this subject are the gamers and everyone else seems to look the other way. Ahhhhh well, it's Microsoft so what are you going to do. OH, and about the monitor, why the article at all? I think another poster mentioned it must be a slow news day. Personally I think eye fatigue would become a big issue with a monitor like this but I suppose I would have to try it myself.

amankowski
amankowski

Of course gaming on Vista is slower than XP but it does look better w/ games running DirectX10. I rather have quality. My rig can play Bioshock at 1920x1200, DirectX10 on Vista and doesn't drop below 30 FPS that often. Just every once in a while I can TELL that game is running slow. Anything over 40 FPS looks fluid to me. I am not losing anything by having 40 FPS instead of 50 FPS for example.

fdh2386
fdh2386

Wouw, it's a great LCD I have ever seen

unprofitableservant27
unprofitableservant27

I find it a little confusing that in one of the pictures, the box said that the monitor was fully compatible with Halo 2, the PC release of which is a Windows Vista only game, and yet the monitor turned out to be incompatible (at least for now) with that operating system. It kind of makes me wonder if they really tested that game, or some of the other games the list boasts with their monitor. Goes to show you can't trust what you read on packaging I suppose.

elrico-fantastica
elrico-fantastica

No Offence but from what you have shown its just a monitor with some crappy free glasses. Couldnt you find an XP box just to at least prove its functionality? if not why bother running the article or is this a slow news day so to speak?

william.meade
william.meade

Just plug it in to XP and tell us how it works!

parrington
parrington

That's what I get for not fully reading the article insead of reading through it.

enriquehernz
enriquehernz

The guy said he stumbled upon a 3D monitor, not like he was looking into it for months just to review. This report was meant to bring forth the jolly good news of telling gamers, "Hey! I came across a 3D monitor!". This site isn't CNN, why bash the guy on his article...

Mark W. Kaelin
Mark W. Kaelin moderator

I thank you for your comments, but I think you missed a critical point. The only PC in this office capable of running games is the Alienware Area-51 7500 we received for review a few months ago. It runs Windows Vista and I told the people at iZ3D about that fact ahead of time. They expected the drivers to work just fine but they didn't. They have been working very hard to get the monitor working with this Vista machine sense then. Another thing you missed, is that this is not a full review, this is just a preliminary report on what we have found so far. There is more to come.

meryllogue
meryllogue

Back off the guy. At least he's writing stuff that is interesting to read. BTW, the very first thing I noticed was "Worlds" was spelled wrong on the box... it lacked an apostophe to make it possessive.

n4aof
n4aof

Why would any self-professed gamer be running Vista on a top of the line PC when every bit of tech data so far shows that Vista is slower than XP for all applications that aren't re-written specifically for Vista? And... As was already mentioned, why "Test" a product specifically against a known incompatibility just so you can slam it. This review is very bad journalism - as a former journalist the word that immediately comes to mind is UNPROFESSIONAL Saying the monitor doesn't have Vista drivers is a perfectly valid point, but "testing" it ONLY on a Vista machine is a farce... And an insult to Tech Republic subscribers.

Izzmo
Izzmo

False advertising really is a kick in the behind these days...

PrimalPlay
PrimalPlay

If you check the list of supported games at their site, they only list Halo, not Halo 2. Someone make a typo?

david
david

Hi All, To clarify about Vista and Halo2 support, iZ3D drivers support Vista, it has been tested in several configurations in our offices, and works flawlessely. However, not all configurations were tested, and seems that Mark's config was one of them. Vista has not been around for such a long time for extensive testing first, and no serious gamers migrated to Vista yet. As you all well know there are number of issues with Vista including performance issues, and since our target market is gaming, we have to follow their preferences. Until more gamers will migrate to Vista, XP will be priority, however that does not mean we are not continuing testing iZ3D drivers with other configurations. We are working with Mark to make sure that the drivers run on his Alienware. About Halo2: it works with iz3D drivers in our office on several configurations. If you have any other questions please feel free to email me at david@neurokoptics.com Best Regards, David