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AS USUAL MS. FAILS TO LET THE USER KNOW WHAT IS IN THE BUNDLE ... PROBABLY HIDING SOMETHING?! SO UNTIL I CAN GET THIS INFO. IE9 IS NOT FOR ME ... IN EUROPE WE LIKE TO BE CONSULTED AND OPEN! MS. NEEDS TO TAKE THIS ON BOARD... SO ITS FIREFOX FOR ME UNTIL MS. COMES CLEAN
iE9 i thought it would be good but when i tryed it first it was fast but than it got slow and slow then when you enter a site you must click F5 once or more for the all webpage appear, and it takes too long for youtube videos to play.
Well, all I can say is "Microsoft Sux again". Who cares if IE9 wont run on XP. If you were smart you would be using Firefox or Google Chrome. If you were real smart you would be using Linux instead of Windows. To the recycle bin for IE9.
So wait XP users are stuck with IE8...Don't get me wrong I don't even use Internet Explorer but still we're stuck with IE8. Is this supposed to be Microsoft's way of saying upgrade now. I've used win7 and vista, they're alright. I even use Win 7 on my other laptop but some of my laptops are to old and won't run 7. The best I can do is run XP and it upsets me to think that they are going to try to hold me back.
Well Microsoft, like the current government, doesn't listen to it's constituants or the public.....they just do what makes them happy and what they think makes us happy...(kinda like the government). That's why I switched to using Linux and Firefox, Microsoft and the government are greedy money grubbing people, they don't care what you think
Ok, here is my positive feedback. Bring back the search bar. I absolutely do not want to search from the address bar. If the website I type in is not right, I want it to fail and leave the address bar as I typed it so that I can fix it without completely retyping it. I absolutely hate it when it goes off into never, never land and comes up with some stupid bogus website that is not what I want. I have turned off all automatic search from the address bar and I want to keep it that way. BTW, my homepage is blank so that it pops up as fast as possible. I have no wish to change that either.
If IE9 is as bad as people say.What say it will be any better with any other OS? So why would anyone want it. My guess is MS don't know when to leave well enough alone. I'm not against advancement but when the advancement takes me backwards instead of forward then I don't want it.
Pitiful piece of software. Where's the beef. When I first fired it up thought I had only installed part of it. Nothing there to look at. No search area. Lasted no longer than a few minutes. Feels like everything is missing. Now gone from my computer. Less is not better. Firefox sure knows how to create a browser.
I tried an early beta release of IE9 and removed 9 when I couldn't read my email unless I scrolled from the bottom up. I hesitated to load 9 because of the early beta. Now I seem to see problems with scrooling down until IE9 is ready to let me. Having features in different locations isn't a problem, but delays in scrolling---- is a problem for me.
I have been using the RC since it was released and like it enough to install it on 5 other systems. No problems nor complaints and I like its look and feel.
whatever anyone is thinking of IE9, in my opinion, as well as in expirience IE9 is the best browser one can find for himself. Together with Windows 7 x64, IE9 64 bit is the best piece of software MS ever produced. Who is fond with Chrome, Firefox or etc...feel free to use it. Don`t spit over somebodies work. Please.....64 bit software is future, like it was with 32 bit after "killing" 16 bit software when win 95 came out for us...and our money....DO you remember winzip32.exe...and all the others, same story, it all comes with 32 sufix or prefix...just to tell you it 32 bit native software. 64 bit is here to stay, til the days when 128 bit dig another hole for 64 bit....GREAT job MicroSOFT.....thanks a lot.....
For me Microsoft missed the browser boat along time ago when IE 6 was stuck at port for years. I've moved on to other browsers and have no intent on going back to IE. I only use IE for the few poorly designed sites I come across that only function in IE, and for testing purposes.
MICROSOFT, PLEASE STOP MOVING/CHANGING things that veteran IE users DEPEND ON! You can ADD as much as you like but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP CHANGING AND MOVING THINGS AROUND!
After reading this one review - I will not upgrade to IE9 Those features are important to me, so forget it.
They release betas for a reason, I'm using ie9 and it works great and now my preferance over chrome. As for the beta, most of them suck, that's how problems get detected and/or fixed.
Microsoft is constantly moving and changing the location of features in all applications. Example: The changes numerous to the Office product. Can I hear from anyone what is good or great about the changes of IE9?
It's suppose to be this way ppl. Like always we Americans all in such a hurry to get something done we just start installing something & click on everything that pops up and then wonder WTF? In this case, all they have tried out is an RC or Beta with out understanding just what a beta or RC is & then complaining like the bunch of pains in the butts that they are. It's the same way with crashes. Then they bring their pewters to me to repair and can only tell me it the got that blue screen and a error messages but did they remember what the message was ? Of course not. But they still want to know or complaint about what happened.This is not about the before version ppl, but the finished version. Aw crap I'm done wasting my time bitching.
I installed it in a VM that had IE8 installed. First thing I noticed is that it doesn't carry over all the settings. The menu bar, status bar and command bar aren't visible. You have to make them visible. I can understand this for a new IE user to the PC, not someone who used it already. From what I read elsewhere, Microsoft did this to reduce the clutter on the screen. That's fine and dandy [as I said] for a new user but not someone who's used IE on the PC already. They did the same thing when going from IE7 to IE8 initially. The menu bar wasn't enabled. A re-release of the install files corrected that after.
I downgraded to IE 8 because IE 9 removes some of my favorite features. 1. The search window is gone. I know you can search within the address field but that isn't the same thing. I like to use this search so my topic stays at the top of the screen as I visit various sites. If I find a site I want to stay and I can click once to open a new site and click the magnifying glass icon in the search box. Presto! I don't have to retype my search topic. 2. They have removed the small drop down tick next to the "forward" button. This means that if I want to go back a handful of pages in my history I have to click the Back button a handful of times instead of being able to hit this one button and go immediately to the "previous" page I'm looking for. The other issue I have is Microsoft has yet again NOT fixed something. The Menu Bar seems to be the holy grail of IE. Nothing can go on the same line as the Menu Bar. No other functions can inhabit the holy sanctum of the Menu Bar. Really? Can't we have IE that is completely modular allowing us to set it up according to our needs? Why can't the Command Bar be on the same line as the Menu Bar? Why can't My Favorites be on the same line as the Menu Bar? If I don't have the Menu Bar active then the only way I can access my Favorites is by clicking the Star icon ... which is now on the right side of the screen instead of the left side as it has previously been. Grrrr! Or I could retrain myself to hit the "Alt" key everytime I want to use My Favorites but that means extra work each time when IE 9 should be about reducing input from the user. I've looked at a few 3rd party applications that could duplicate the features Microsoft has taken away (isn't that kinda sad, Microsoft?) but the few that I've looked at are huge and only replace the separate search box function. I kinda feel like Microsoft took the people who gave us Vista and moved them to the IE team. I can only hope IE 9 turns out to be like Vista and in IE 10 Microsoft will think about how users actually use their product. And, yes, I'm cranky today.
No one is saying you should use IE9 beta, the beta version is now replaced with the final release. I've been using IE9 since beta, & I have found that it has improved through each version. I am now using the final version & I do like it. Yes, there are still a few problems because it is so new that many sites have yet to update themselves for it. And, occasionally I have to use the compatibility view to smooth out some of these issues, but like everything else, change takes time. I'm glad that MS didn't stop at any of the earlier versions, & I expect to follow along as they roll out newer versions. Don't like it? - Don't use it! I do! - I will! Have another favorite? - Go ahead & use it! Haven't tried it? - Don't bitch! jmk-nbsc
that is true improvement does not mean tumbling everything around. it seems that Microsoft wants to earn commission on tutions and books for Win products.
they added a feature that was definitively missing: the split up of IE Tabs. you can click on a tab drag it out and start a new IE window, great when you need to compare two pages, before you had to rewritte all address. but that the only pos I found, the rest is crap. the worst thing is the ActiveX disabling function, that is really a pain. if somebody knows how to disable that permanently that would be great.
We aren't using it yet....? Seriously, I wish we in the Government had an R&D section so we could try out all the new wizbang gizmos...I did try the beta (at home) and it didn't work with my "favorite sites" because they weren't willing to deploy their security features to match until the final product was released. Hope to really flesh it out soon...
As with almost all change it is the fact that things are not the same which makes humans uneasy. Progress means change. Change means progress. So ...
If you want to hear what is great about change for the sake of change, just read any press release from our friends at Micro$oft. My observation is that change rarely equates to improvement. EVERY change has some cost for users. In most cases minor changes are trivial in and of themselves, but when a company changes the look & feel of a product, most often it is just a way to disguise a lack of real improvements. One problem, of course, is that no one ever contacts a company to say "I love this part of your product exactly the way it is, please don't change it." The result is that a product can have 50 million satisfied customers and just 10 people who want it changed, but all the publisher sees is the complaints and change requests from the 10 people who want changes. Going back as far as XP, Microsoft has been putting ever increasing emphasis on making products "pretty" even when they know that "pretty" hurts perfomance. At least a few years ago, they used to include a way to choose a "Classic" interface in most of their new products -- but not any more! Now they just create a vast market for third party companies that produce programs to give users back functions that MS has removed or hidden and other companies that produce training books and programs to enable users to find where MS hid things that used to be instantly available.
the history drop down (2) is there I don't know why you do not see it. in IE9 the menu bar is not holy like in windows you just need to unlock the toolbar before you can move things around. (right click and click on "Lock the Toolbar" to unlock it then do what you want. what I hate is that IE9 forced me to download new flash square because adobe flash player is not ready for IE9 win 64bit. and that gave me a lot of problems with many of my daily application and my web site looks crap but not as crap as many web site 100% flash. one more thing the 32 bit compatible IE 9 for Win7 64bit is completely unstable. but I need it as my bank login can not happen with IE9 64bits... it seems that nobody was ready for it not even Java.
I have no problem with the performance of IE 9. It's the features and tools they removed that I use all the time that's the problem. I'm not going to upgrade the users at my company because I know they'll also miss those same features.
About what you said regarding menubar, favorites etc. These are things i want in a browser. And you should be able to put the bars where you want them. Can't agree any more and am completely with you here. I use FF3.6 and IE8 and am not going to switch to IE9. And when FF starts to look like IE9, and i cant adjust\use the menubar, favorites, links etc i switch to the browser which still has this features. Or will use IE8 en FF 3.6 forever.
No web site already online and working with all browsers that were current at the site's creation has to be updated for a new browser. (Terrible sentence.) There are tens of millions of sites and 1 IE9. Any new browser must be backwards compatible. If IE9 can't display any existing site it's crap. If the compatibility view of IE9 works consistently fine. But no programmer should be expected to change their sites solely for a new browser. As a site builder IE has always been the non standard browser I had to adjust for.
Most people just want to be able to go to a website and view it without getting a message saying your "browser does not support whatever" and developers are sick of having to spend hours coding for 4 different browsers which display the same code differently. So to answer your question the change towards standards compliant web browsers is a good thing.
This seems to me the way Microsoft is going with no thought of the USERS. You can play in our SANDBOX with our toys doing WHAT we demand. It should be here is the sand box now make how/what you want. About time the abondoned the "RIBBON" and let users have the option "CLASSIC" or "ribbon" my choice if a "CLASSIC" style.
only if they can agree about it right away and not change a little by little so everytime one of the big do something then we have to redo our web page coding. I am a small business and do not have time nor money for that big crappy battle