HTC ThunderBolt and Verizon iPhone 4, comparing speeds #2
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The HTC Thunderbolt is fast, now that the 4G has finally come to Austin Texas, but what about the every day functions that I purchased the phone for? What about the forward-looking camera? It doesn't work! I'm told by SKYPE that they're waiting for the release of the next OS to activate this camera! It's nickname is "ice cream"! Well, the "ice cream" truck is apparently LOST somewhere, because when he does show up, he doesn't have the right ice cream for my phone!! He serves everybody else, but I have to walk away empty-handed! Now that OS 4 is supposed to be releasing this evening, I have this anxiety inside of me that says, "your HTC Thunderbolt, like always before, is going to be listed in the small list at the bottom of phones that this new release does not yet work with." The headphone jack doesn't work either! I tried my wonderful earbud headphones that I've had for years, and used successfully with my iPhone, and all I could get was music. No mic! No volume adjustments! Funny thing is (though I'm not laughing about it) these same headphones work just find on the DROID BIONIC!! And now, I'm way out of my 1st 30-days (15 for Verizon, you cheapskates!) and cannot trade! Oh, and I'm "still waiting" for that ice cream truck to show up with MY ICECREAM!!
I wonder how long the battery life is. With lte, big display and faster cpu it must be relatively short.
OK, let's say I get one and use it for one hour per day. What's my monthly cell phone bill going to be?
Hummm have you told ATAT that they need further network investment to support 4G yet? I think they know....as for the iphone 5? is there one? have they delayed the launch to up spec the phone because the competition has got there first? Economically the market always ups the pace of innovation where market conditions are highly competitive.For the consumer they both gain and loose....they gain as they get better technology...they loose as product cycles become shorter necessitating additional investment to stave off redundancy.However BSC consulting UK also identified similar conditions in the server market before the crash and called it the 'reverse technology gap' where the main mass of consumers do not see advantage or cannot afford to up spec at ever increasing cycles. Following this position a plateau effect will be observed in the market.
I got this phone 3 days after it dropped, this phone has issues with Exchange 2010 Calendar Syncing; HTC is playing it off saying that they don't "officially support" Exchange 2010 - however my Incredible had 0 issues syncing with our Exchange Server. Hold off on buying this until they fix their Active Sync Client.
"screenshots of 4G"? -Then why does the phone in the picture above show a 3G icon on the top of the display? What is this Fox news?
Comparing a 2-day old "smart" phone (running Android of all things) to a legendary car company with over 70 years of history of performance and perfection is a travesty. And if it's a speed metaphor we're after here, then it's the network that's responsible for the increased speed, NOT the phone. Remember, your 3-year old iPhone can already transfer data at twice the LTE speed... over Wi-Fi : )
Yeah... CBS shills for Droid. No businesses are adopting droid due to security issues... Consumers are going to be pissed off when they learn they need to buy a new device to watch Netflix or other content, because DRM has to be implemented in hardware. But most consumers and businesses want iOS devices. The proof's in the puddin'... They have the Xune at Costco and no one is buying it! Motorola had to cut production. Apple can't make enough iPad 2's. Everyone wants one... The Android community will always play the "better hardware" card, while their faster processors and more RAM give a sluggish experience. Their 8 Mpxl camera takes worse photos than a 5 Mpxl one on an iPhone. This is the same tactic Windows & friends used against the Mac. They use the weakness of their operating systems and need for higher performance (and battery draining) hardware as a selling point, but the user experience is always worse... Windows had a foothold in business, so people are familiar with it and go with the devil they know... Droid doesn't have a foothold in business. Lots of security debacles -- 200,000+ users had their contact info stolen by malicious droid apps. The proof is in the puddin'. Everyone has iOS devices... My software engineering colleagues, my rich neighbors, my poor neighbors... Even people on welfare have an iPhone... Droid has potential, but you generally want to go with the best technology at the time. It's ironic, but droid fanboys remind me of Mac folk from the 1990s. Sure, graphic designers, audio engineers, and multimedia folk had good reasons to use a Mac... But they didn't have the apps!!! Now they do. I switched to a Mac Pro (based on Windows hardware expectations) and I could have made do with a Mac Mini. Even those little bricks are screaming fast on OS X. Moral of the story -- Apple gives you more bang for your hardware bucks... Linux is even better, but I like the ability to run mainstream software... With the Mac app store, tons of native software, and the ability to run Windows, the Mac is now a better machine. iOS is way better than Droid... Maybe someday things will change, but I don't think this loosely coupled alliance is working out well -- no leadership. Droid will use hardware specs and superfluous UI features to sell a few people. Some people have drunk the "Google does no evil" Koolade. Ha ha ha... Yeah, go look at the court cases against Google... Apple? Kodak sued them (and Samsung, etc.) because kodak claims they invented thumbnails... Well, I guess that's easier than developing a product...
This is from the HTC forums: http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/107/t/10339.aspx This is from the Google forums: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?fid=7dfa7586687b22d400049ebbd4e05e0a&hl=en
is that both the ThunderBolt and the Incredible use the same Exchange ActiveSync software built into HTC Sense. Thanks for bring this up. I'll see what I can find.
Verizon didn't use SIM cards on its CDMA network (it used a software SIM instead), but LTE is based on GSM standards so Verizon is transitioning to SIMs.
First picture on the top... near the bars clearly show 3G. In fact, others (or at least one) shows it even clearer.
dry-smile... its a good comparison, i think, after looking at both of them here in the garage, they 're both more like my wife i think... when they're mad at me, nothing works, lol.... com??n .. dont take life that serious, its just a phone mon??mi...and a car is just a car...
The ThunderBolt's speed isn't just about 4G. This is the fastest smartphone I've used (and I've used and reviewed nearly all of the big ones). It loads apps and Web pages at near desktop speeds. Part of this is due to its new iteration Qualcomm Snapdragon, its dedicated GPU (Adreno 205), 768MB RAM, and 8MB of internal eMMC storage. Even on 3G and Wi-Fi, this phone is blisteringly fast and responsive. I talk about this more in the full review: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/htc-thunderbolt-review-the-new-smartphone-king-of-2011/7934
I have been reading those about 3 times a day waiting for someone to have a fix other than Touchdown. I posted to both of those as well as HTC's Facebook page, it is very disheartening to hear crickets from the mfg - especially with the price tag that the phone has. I wonder if this issue was what kept the phone from being released and HTC felt pressured to release the product. As a interesting side note, in the google forum one person said they had the same issue with Exchange 2003.
It's called Android fragmentation. Read it up. And Google just locked up the code to prevent more fragmentation by the phone makers. HTC couldn't care less whether it works with Exchange. They didn't license the Exchange ActiveSync protocol from Microsoft. They are just interested in selling you a phone.