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dwdino
dwdino

...all the above diatribe. Let me educated the idiotic masses. I have had Windows 7 Ultimate build 7000 installed for 2 weeks now. I installed it as my primary system to put it through its paces and see how close to production ready it is. First, my system is a Dell Lattitude D400 notebook. This is old stuff - Pentium M 1.7, 2GB RAM, 30GB HD, Intel 82855 video. So I burned the DVD, baked up my system and set off to install. The install went easily; 6 clicks and desktop presented. Video was very poor as Windows 7 did not know what to do with such an ancient video chipset. I remembered microsoft had published Vista drivers for the 82865 chipset. Installed those and viola, all was well (W7 successfully installed everything else). Now, Windows 7 is faster than even XP on this notebook. I have installed Office 2007, VMware Server, VMware VIC, Citrix, OC 2005, SAVCE, etc. I have attached to all but one corporate printer (old drivers). So far, Windows 7 has only one dissappointment, and its minor - WMP Task Bar. There have been apps that I have to run in compatibility mode, but that is to be expected from an 5 year old application. The new user interface is intuitive and a great step forward (desktop). However, the overly layered configuration windows are still a pain. If MS would flatten out these windows (XP) and maintain everything else about 7, they would have something truly outstanding. So, for all of those speaking without first hand experience: 1) W7 Beta runs great on low end hardware. 2) W7 Beta UI is good 3) W7 Beta network performance is outstanding 4) W7 Beta has a few querks (WMP, Windowing, etc.) 5) W7 Beta UAC is drasticly improved I give Microsoft credit for taking a poor showing in Vista and turning the corner with W7. I would like to see the installation time and size shrink, as well as a flattening of configuration steps, and a little more powerful administrator. This will be a well recieved and good product.

rstaveley
rstaveley

Point 1 has got my attention; it would be good to see this sold as a software upgrade rather than part and parcel of yet another DELL. The flurry of hardware upgrades in the wake of Vista was something the planet could have done without. BTW... It is a bit harsh to describe posters as "idiotic". A serious of screen shots illustrating the installation is more likely to be of interest to those who've not invested time in installing the beta than those who have.

dwdino
dwdino

Idiotic was chosen because of the direct assumptions that were being made without experience. Image going into the doctor and telling them that you need a gall bladder removal. They would ask why you believe you do and question your knowledge of the subject. You continue to state that it must be removed. What tests have been run? Who has told you this? No tests, no previous diagnosis. How would we describe this behavior? Idiotic at best. Those above pound away instead of informing themselves. If you have a bad experience, fine - would love to hear about it and learn. If you only have presuppositions and niave assumptions...

john3347
john3347

Although Windows 7 looks sooooooooo much like Vista and my Windows Home Server thinks it is Vista, it is a much improved version of Vista. The compatability issues that came along with Vista seem have resurfaced with Windows 7. Hopefully these will be corrected over the next few months. I have both drivers and applications that I have moved from 2000 Pro, to XP, and to Vista that will not install on Windows 7 beta 1.

sunnykaymaheo@hotmail.com
sunnykaymaheo@hotmail.com

12:32 PM to 2:15 PM and still going strong on quad core 64 bit machine (128 bit?) with a terabyte of RAM. Verification on the net. Cool! Schedule it in the night, take a good rest and wake up all installed. ! Windoze goes on standby to sleep and yet in the future is a six month hibernation.But thanks Microsoft, the world's with you all the way. No other option.

pinoli
pinoli

It took me 30 min, 4 restarts to get it on my second drive in a IBM Thinkpad T43 (1.86, 2Gb, X300 video), did not directly recognized fingerprintreader, wifi Intel 22000BG (stil hasn't, even with new Vista driver). Now this is version 7000, runs smoothly, installed K-Lite 4.4.5, AVG free 8.0, Adobe reader 9, office 2007, Nero 9, Power DVD 8, ACDsee 11 and did not blink for 1 time!!! Now its dual boot with Vista Ultimate. It feels faster than Vista, although that even outruns XP pro on my T43. Only have to get used to the new/old look and feel, but its familiar with getting XP or Vista on the pc or laptop, no real surprises (that I noticed!!) So stop moaning, install, try, make real comments! ps computers is only my hobby! Do love Open SuSe 11.1 too! wonderfull version, also runs like a charm with KDE on my IBM T43 and Intellistations. take care!

shicks
shicks

Oh yeah and let me guess... you'll need all new hardwaree to run it because the manufactoring sector won't build drivers for legacy gear too,... Please that war has gone on long enough a 2 year old laptop could not even be upgraded to vista because of this crap

dpeter
dpeter

Great now that my environment is just now compatible with Vista!

rcgconsulting
rcgconsulting

If your intention was to make everyone feel as annoyed as you felt during the "upgrade", then your wordless article achieved its goal. Next time, spare us, and just say it. We'll understand. We've been there.

ZCorrea
ZCorrea

Thanks for the images, but an actual article would have been helpful.

stuigi
stuigi

I can now see why whoever wrote this gets the big bucks. A mind id a terrible thing to waste

ZCorrea
ZCorrea

All I see are images.

cwalker
cwalker

Stop...start..restart..stop..restart..go...not yet..restart..Hey Windows is restarting. Do you think MS engineers will ever figure out that the average user doesn't have the patience to sit through the Windows infinite restart loop? How about..Installing....finished...restart...USE THE COMPUTER NOW? Way to go MS.

VAR1016
VAR1016

I did not find the installation process frustrating, but rather dull after XP. Perhaps there will be a nice introduction on the final version? I would like to reinstall XP somewhere just to enjoy all the chat as it loads. And it's fun to install it on a modern machine and recognise how things have speeded up. Yes I am eccentric and yes, I don't care. Paul

marvin.novello
marvin.novello

So how many of you waited for a short time when the screenshot said "please wait...." I did this more than once (like when it said "checking for updates"). Lol. I have just got out of bed tho....

aphorist
aphorist

Vista rides again

chris.morris2
chris.morris2

I notice that the backdrop now has the light coming from above. Has Windows finally achieved God status? Also when will Microsoft wake up to the fact that watching the installation of an operating system isn't like going to the movies. Why can't they ask for all user input right at the start, then let it rip (while you go and have several cups of coffee)?

RNR1995
RNR1995

More of the same? Question: Why would you want a huge round clock on your desktop, that only gets covered up as soon as you launch your first app?? I never got the useless eye candy that is Vista.

Oz_Media
Oz_Media

Sounds like teh exact same argument from when XP came out. Why would I add RAM just to run XP? It's insecure and that desktop is ugly eye candy. Whey add ram just to see eye candy. EXACTLY the same as when XP came out. Funny how people's tune changes to suit their pocketbook.

john3347
john3347

"Sounds like teh exact same argument from when XP came out. Why would I add RAM just to run XP? It's insecure and that desktop is ugly eye candy. Whey add ram just to see eye candy. EXACTLY the same as when XP came out. Funny how people's tune changes to suit their pocketbook." Seems to me OZ, that if that discussion/complaint was made 7 years ago and still is being discussed/complained about, that somebody (Microsoft) was and still is not listening. We still have the same silly, childish papers flying through the air while we sit and watch and wait for our computer to complete an operation as we had in Windows 95. Yes, we said these things when XP came out and Microsoft has not yet listened so we are still saying these things.

ctoliver3
ctoliver3

Why? The same reason for scalable fonts. Ever hear of people with vision problems who just might need a large clock to look at? Not everybody is blessed with perfect vision as from your insulting comment you seem to have. Maybe you should consider that might be an important feature for people with many types of visual disability problems.

jfuller05
jfuller05

that the person was attempting an insult at anyone with vision problems that might actually need that feature. He/she was probably just irritated that eye candy is all people seem to want now from a computer instead of great functionality and processing abilities for business. I personally like little gadgets like the clock and cpu monitor, but I certainly didn't feel any hint of disdain towards people with handicaps from that comment. I just thought I would let you know I felt more anger from your comment than I did from the other.

Forum Surfer
Forum Surfer

My father can't see well. No matter how large I scale things up, he can't read he taskbar clock without squinting...even on a 20" non wide-screen LCD I bought him. He can now see it with the Vista sidebar. He definitely would like to be able to alt tab to the desktop to see the clock. For me though, yeah it's totally useless. I use a 24" monitor with the resolution so fine that my start button is roughly 3/4 the size of a penny. I HEAR 7 has better resource management. Since I am thoroughly pleased with Vista Business 64, Windows 7 is looking good to me. I admit Vista is a resource pig, but on a dual core 64 bit machine with 4 gigs of memory...I hardly ever see my machine bog down unless I attempt to encode a huge file and try to play a system intensive game at the same time. Other people don't like the extra bloat or eye candy and will continue to bash both Windows and people that like it.

rstaveley
rstaveley

So that's how you move the clock from the sidebar into the middle of the desktop!? ;-)