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1? 2? 3? There Goes Another

By Peter Warren ·
In the world today, on each and every day of each and every year, a child starves to death or dies from hunger related diseases every three seconds. 1... 2? 3? there goes one. 1? 2? 3? and another 1? 2? 3? and another 1... .2? 3? one more???.

And what is the response of our government, the ?Christian values? people in power in America? The silence is deafening isn?t it.

1?2?3? another child 1?2?3? and another. While the ?Christian family values? Republicans plough hundreds of billions to the wealthiest Americans, while they pour hundreds of billions into Iraq, and hundreds more into our war machine, remember - 1? 2 ? 3? there goes another.

While the ?Christian? right fights against birth control, reproductive choice and AIDS vaccines; while it wastes our time and money on futile attempts to outlaw all things sexual outside of marriage between one man and one woman; while it rails against homosexuality and vilifies its opponents, remember - 1? 2? 3? another child gone.

While Republican supporters twist all logic in a vain attempt to be both Christian and free-market capitalists, remember - 1 ? 2 ? 3, another child dies

The farcical tragedy of America?s ?Christian family values? Republicans and ?Christian? right is that they are even less Christian than I am. 1? 2? 3? 1? 2? 3??................... ?????????????????????????????????????.

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What are you willing to do?

by jdmercha In reply to Too true

Here in the US, thre are always ways.

I too ran out of money with less than one year of college left. I found a job that would pay for my education. It took me 8 years to get my BS.

I have been in a position to qualify for welfare. I refused to apply for it. I knew I could pull myslef up.

I have been in a positon to file for bankrupcy. Again I refused to do it. I mangaed to pull myself out of it.

Not that I'm any better than anyone else. And not that there is anything wrong with filing for welfare or bankrupcy, if you are truely in need. But personally I just could never admit to my self that I can't support myself and my family.

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This is exactly the situation in which social security is needed.

by mjwx In reply to Too true

In Australia we have "deadbeats" too, we call them dole-bludgers. For them I have no patients and could write volumes on the subjuct, but this would be a waste of everybody's time. But there is a division of welfare called "AusStudy" which exists to help students but I still feel it is not enough, students are still being forced into debt. Secondly people get made redundant and need help, such people can normaly find another job within 3 months (job market permiting).

Thirdly, the rich should be taxed more and we, the working public should recieve a tax cut (A$ 21,000 - A$70,000 tax brackets). I think that once you earn over a certain amount (for example $1 mil for individuals) you should be flat taxed and have loopholes denied to you.

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Yes

by Peter Warren In reply to Have you been paying atte ...

--William Jefferson Clinton, the "first Black president", ruled this great country for eight years.--

Watch out, your racial attitudes are showing.


--How is it there are any poor people left? Oh yeah, Democrats don't give a squat about this either??

Two wrongs don?t make a right. And they don?t excuse ?compassionate? conservatives' criminal neglect in the face of starving children.

--First thing, it is time stupid people stop breeding.--

Which book of the bible contains this commandment?

--If you can not feed a child but you plunge ahead popping them out anyways, THAT is the person responsible for the starving. --

Careful, your rather un-Christian hatred for poor people is showing.

-- Simple. Can't pay for your family, you don't have a family. --

Ok in the simplistic, black & white fantasy world of perhaps well meaning, but fatally na?ve, conservatives. Never has and never will work in the world as it really is.


--There ARE many Christian charities that do a lot for the poor and the starving in the world. I would venture more Christian organizations than otherwise too.--


And I applaud this. Unfortunately, even with all the efforts of every person, every organization and every government trying to help, one child dies from starvation or hunger related disease every THREE seconds.

As the leader of the most ?Christian? nation on earth, the wealthiest nation, the most powerful nation, is it too much to ask our born again President to use his office and position to promote a massive effort to prevent the unnecessary starvation of an innocent child every three seconds. Remember, 1, 2, 3? another child is gone -- 1,2, 3?and another?. 1, 2, 3 one more . . .


-- What are YOU doing to help the "another child blah blah blah". How many have YOU saved. How much money do YOU give. How much time do YOU donate?--

Don?t be afraid to say it: another child starves to death or dies of hunger related diseases every three seconds. 1, 2, 3 another one dead . . . . . . . . .

-- How many have YOU saved. How much money do YOU give. How much time do YOU donate? How about the Democratic party? What are THEY doing that the Republicans are not? ?

I hate to have to say it, but GET OVER YOURSELF. I?m talking about children starving to death and like a lot of your fellow travelers, your response is to point a finger at me and the Democrats. Does this make you feel more comfortable with the reality that two or three children starved to death while you were busy justifying the criminal inaction of our so-called Christian leadership? Someday you?ll realize that the world doesn?t boil down to shop-worn piety and ?free? market ideology. Until then, save your pity for the tens of millions of children who will starve to death while our ?great? nation pours hundreds of billions into the boy emperor?s Iraqi adventure, and hundreds more into a war machine that long ago knew no equal on the face of the earth. Christian, my foot!

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Where do you make this crap up at?

by jdclyde In reply to Yes

I am not the one who dubbed William Jefferson Clinton the "First Black President", so this is not anything that reflects on me in any way, shape or form.

"Two wrongs don?t make a right. And they don?t excuse ?compassionate? conservatives' criminal neglect in the face of starving children."
Ok, so you will hold Republicans accountable for something that was not of their making, yet give Democrats a free pass. It is ALL the Christian Repulicans fault that the problems that have been going on for decades has not mysteriously disappeared.

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ME:--First thing, it is time stupid people stop breeding.--

YOU:--Which book of the bible contains this commandment?

Did I say it was a commandment? It is a simple fact that these STUPID people that make the CHOICE to bring children into the world that they know beforehand that they can't feed ARE THE WHOLE PROBLEM AND REASON THAT YOUR 1 2 3 CHILDREN ARE DYING. The parents that should be facing criminal charges for neglect, endangerment, abuse, and neglegent homocide.

It is not the fault of the President, Republicans or the Christians. It is the fault of the parents that are breeding without the responsiblity of caring for the children.

You may give stupid people a free pass on their responsibility, but I won't. You have a child, you are responsible for the welfare of that child. Anyone that can not care for children have NO RIGHT having children and are horrible human beings for doing so. People can not be saved from their own stupidity.

What is unchristian about this? It is VERY unchristian to have children you know are going to starve. Is it unchristian of me? I did nothing to cause this problem, and I can not save the world. I have my own charities I support, cancer society (how fast are people dropping from that?) and local food banks/coats for kids/womens shelters. I DO my part.

It is you, doing nothing, and then trying to say that is besides the point that are a big part of the problem. My concern is people HERE that need help. While there are people HERE that need help, let the people from other countries take care of their own. I will NOT chose to let someone HERE die just so someone from another country can live, espicially when the problems in the other country are brought on by the irrisponsible and abusive behavior of the parents.

You pretent to applaud that Christian organizations are doing more for people than anyone else, yet snidely sneer because THEY aren't doing as much as you think they could/should be doing. Start your own charity and do something if you actually care about the 1 2 3 kids. Your not willing to do anything? YOU are chosing to let them die. When you do nothing but complain that other people aren't doing more and the whole time you are worthless, it makes you and everything you say a sick joke. YOU are a sick joke.

Show us how it is done, mr Anti-Christian. Lead by example. Do not pretend to know what is or isn't Christian, because it is obvious you know nothing about it. But you won't. It isn't the poor poor you care about, it is making people you HATE look bad that is your goal.

didn't work. you are pathetic.

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I'm not making it up. It's really happening

by Peter Warren In reply to Where do you make this cr ...

-- It is a simple fact that these STUPID people that make the CHOICE to bring children into the world that they know beforehand that they can't feed ARE THE WHOLE PROBLEM AND REASON THAT YOUR 1 2 3 CHILDREN ARE DYING. --

You are completely wrong about this. Educate yourself at http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/index.

--You pretent to applaud that Christian organizations are doing more for people than anyone else, yet snidely sneer because THEY aren't doing as much as you think they could/should be doing. --

Wrong again jd. I welcome all attempts to stop a child from starving to death every three seconds. It's the phony right-wing "Christians" who are running the US government that I'm sneering at.

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tell me in your own words

by jdclyde In reply to I'm not making it up. It ...

exactly why it is these people after generations have never lifted themselves up to be self reliant.

Tell me exactly what the Democrats that were in power were doing to elminate this problem, that the Republicans are not now doing.

Throwing a bunch of pictures of kids on a flier does not do anything to resolve an issue.

To say that just stupidly and blindly throwing MORE money at this symptoms will do anything but make the problem continue is dishonest.

As for your sneer at "phony" Christians, you have done nothing to show anything of the sort, nor to hold up an REAL Christian example from previous administrations.

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I'll point the finger at you

by stan In reply to Yes

What have you done about it? Anything at all? I doubt it. Its just a handy topic to attack groups that you don't like, spout cliches and demonstrate a shallow lack of understanding of Christians and conservatives. You seem to think that the stereotype made up by the leftists is actually true.

Christians and conservatives have done more to fix the problem than all the socialists in the world. And a LOT more than you.

So, tell us what you have done. What you are doing. And share your great wisdom about what should be done. I'm sure we would all like to hear.

Or are you just another hypocrite?

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No way

by Peter Warren In reply to I'll point the finger at ...

--It?s just a handy topic to attack groups that you don't like, spout cliches and demonstrate a shallow lack of understanding of Christians and conservatives. You seem to think that the stereotype made up by the leftists is actually true.?

Is it really comforting to believe this nonsense? The behavior of the ?conservative? Republican leadership of the US government and of the phony ?Christian? right speaks for itself. I don?t need leftist clich?s. These jokers are already walking, talking clich?s. They are neither conservative nor Christian by any definition you care to offer. And that my friend makes them hypocrites worthy of nothing more than scorn and condemnation.

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glass houses, my friend

by jdclyde In reply to No way

glass houses.

Here is a religious quote for you.

let he without sin cast the first stone......

will you throw that stone?

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First of all

by stan In reply to No way

First of all, I'm not your friend.

You are a walking cliche without an original thought in your head. And the biggest hypocrite I've run across in a long, long time.

You have never responded to any questions. What have you done? (No answer) What do you plan to do? (No answer) What should be done? (People that you obviously hate should do more than they are already doing) That is what you think passes for substance?

The leftist in this country haven't had a new idea in the last 40 or 50 years. But they have had lots of practice in name calling and obstruction. And making life worse for the people they claim to care about.

While you and those like you have done nothing except complain and whine, Christians and Conservatives have been working to solve problems.

So lets hear your suggestions on how to solve the problem you brought up. Any ideas at all?

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