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1? 2? 3? There Goes Another

By Peter Warren ·
In the world today, on each and every day of each and every year, a child starves to death or dies from hunger related diseases every three seconds. 1... 2? 3? there goes one. 1? 2? 3? and another 1? 2? 3? and another 1... .2? 3? one more???.

And what is the response of our government, the ?Christian values? people in power in America? The silence is deafening isn?t it.

1?2?3? another child 1?2?3? and another. While the ?Christian family values? Republicans plough hundreds of billions to the wealthiest Americans, while they pour hundreds of billions into Iraq, and hundreds more into our war machine, remember - 1? 2 ? 3? there goes another.

While the ?Christian? right fights against birth control, reproductive choice and AIDS vaccines; while it wastes our time and money on futile attempts to outlaw all things sexual outside of marriage between one man and one woman; while it rails against homosexuality and vilifies its opponents, remember - 1? 2? 3? another child gone.

While Republican supporters twist all logic in a vain attempt to be both Christian and free-market capitalists, remember - 1 ? 2 ? 3, another child dies

The farcical tragedy of America?s ?Christian family values? Republicans and ?Christian? right is that they are even less Christian than I am. 1? 2? 3? 1? 2? 3??................... ?????????????????????????????????????.

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No, I think . . .

by Peter Warren In reply to Not "and"

in jd's dangerously uninformed and naive world view, I'm both stupid and evil.

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Religious charities

by mjwx In reply to very well said

I don?t want to pay to spread the good word of anything. You?ll have to forgive my belligerent atheism.

I do give to charities but non religious ones, my two favourites are Canteen, children?s cancer research and Here for Life, prevention of youth suicide. Both topics I feel passionately about.

I also give money to the Fred Hollows foundation which provides optometrist services in third world countries actively stopping people from going blind, which in my mind is a noble cause.

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Christians, lighten up!

by Peter Warren In reply to Aghh,, the trolls are eve ...

A few dark clouds on your horizon and you're all going crazy. I'm not attacking Christians. I am attacking the liars and hypocrites who pose as Christians while they excuse and condone starvation of children at the rate of one every three seconds. When will the real Christians stand up and reclaim their faith? That's what I want to know.

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I don't recall that in the bible

by jdclyde In reply to Christians, lighten up!

that every problem in the world is ours to resolve?

Do you or do you not support federal funding of "faith based initiatives"?

A simple yes or no will do.

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by Peter Warren In reply to I don't recall that in th ...

-- I don't recall that in the bible
that every problem in the world is ours to resolve?--

For your edification, here is Luke:10 27 -37. Enjoy.

The Parable of the Good Samaritan
25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
26 "What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"
27 He answered: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'[c]; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[d]"
28 "You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."
29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
30 In reply Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he fell into the hands of robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, took him to an inn and took care of him. 35The next day he took out two silver coins[e] and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'
36 "Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"
37 The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."
Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise."

--Do you or do you not support federal funding of "faith based initiatives"?
A simple yes or no will do.?

Maybe. Depends on what we?re talking about. I think it?s a case by case decision.

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No, not "maybe". A direct yes or no.

by jdclyde In reply to Depends

The faith based initiatives were all charities. Places like soup kitchens and homeless shelters.

Are YOU, EPW, against giving a religions organization federal funding so they can pay for the soup kitchens and homeless shelters?

No "maybes" or "depends". Yes or no.

Or are you going to cry out that you think this is a breaking of the myth of "Separation of Church and State"?

Time to make a stand. What do YOU belive. What do YOU support.

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My stand

by Peter Warren In reply to No, not "maybe". A direc ...

If a religion wants to administer poverty programs with public money from people of every faith, including no faith, I do not object as long as it agrees in writing to:

*completely abstain from ALL attempts to convert the people using that program

*opens the doors of that program to ALL who truly need the help, without exception for any reason

*adheres to ALL employment nondiscrimination standards in running that program.

I believe a sincere desire to help people should have no problem with these rules. On the other hand, if a religion wants to administer a poverty program and proselytize, or unfairly discriminate in choosing clients or employing people, I would object to giving one thin dime to support these activities. I say let that religion promote itself with the money of its members, not public funds. Public funds have no proper role to play in the promotion of any religion.

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Of course, that begs the question...

by TonytheTiger In reply to Depends

Who forced the Samaritan?

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No one

by Peter Warren In reply to Of course, that begs the ...

No one. No person; no god; no government; only is own human kindness. Too bad this profound human quality is all too rare in the American power structure. When it comes to the millions of innocent children starving to death, America has kept on walking. Remember, while you defend the status quo, 1 2 3, 1 2 3, 1 2 3, ... ... ... ... ...

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by TonytheTiger In reply to No one

"Too bad this profound human quality is all too rare in the American power structure."

I don't know where you are getting your data, but historically those with the most to give are the ones who give the most (truly mean people are fairly rare, even in the places you'd expect to find them). Maybe without their charity there might be 5 children dieing every second! Have you thought about that? Oozing negativity isn't going to make it happen any quicker.

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