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    10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

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    by oz_media ·

    Okay, it’s following a common theme, I know but I think the bias should be aired to see how relevant such lists are to begin with.

    10: Linux users want to be seen as higher society, out of the mainstream and unique.

    9: Linux users have an need to support their OS choice, especially when a new OS is released, to;
    a) retain the nearly non existent customer base
    b) pull those still on the fence into trying Linux instead of a new Windows flavour.

    8: Linux isn’t very entertaining, you need to do something when bored of entering command strings

    7: It makes them think that others listen to them for advice on an OS choice.

    6: It’s Linux, they should have had a parrot logo for he amount of repetetive, outdated reasons they have.for using Linux that don’t apply to modern OS’s. Linux would be quickly forgotten without the parrots

    7: Mom said their 386 is fine and, just because all the other kids have better PC’s, it doesn’t mean THEY have to jump off the bridge too. (now eat your potatoes!)

    6: When you have no social life and no skills beyond ‘penguin commands’, you need a little something to make you feel mainstream and included again.

    5: Some people actually think being a geek is a good thing, they need to think they are an elite club that only geeks would join and others are mere n00bs.

    4: Now that security and viruses are not such a horrific issue with Windows, they need to wave their penguin flippers a bit more often in order to not be forgotten.

    3: Their secret world has been taken over by those who have the income and resources to buy higher end hardware, so Windows runs well for most people now.

    2: Linux no longer has much of an edge on Windows in most cases of speed and stability. They can’t be forgotten.

    And the numer one reason Linux users hate Windows users:
    Linux conventions are the only place they could possibly justify wearing a tuxuedo (or more commonly, a tuxuedo t-shirt).

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    • #2950493

      You are just starting a fire arent you???

      by the scummy one ·

      In reply to 10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

      “10: Linux users want to be seen as higher society, out of the mainstream and unique.”

      forgot to mention — cheap b’stards :^0

      “9: Linux users have an need to support their OS choice, especially when a new OS is released, to;
      a) retain the nearly non existent customer base
      b) pull those still on the fence into trying Linux instead of a new Windows flavour.”

      And the problem here is? And where is the hate here?

      “8: Linux isn’t very entertaining, you need to do something when bored of entering command strings”

      I have barely touched the command line in Linux — just a few commands, and those are more of a power user set. Linux is entertaining — I have no idea what you are talking about.

      “7: It makes them think that others listen to them for advice on an OS choice.”

      They Dont :0 :0 :0
      back to the drawing board

      “6: It’s Linux, they should have had a parrot logo for he amount of repetetive, outdated reasons they have.for using Linux that don’t apply to modern OS’s. Linux would be quickly forgotten without the parrots”

      Hmmm — outdated — I dont think so. dont apply to modern OS’s — only if you are still using red hat 3 or the like. WTF is this BS about?

      “7: Mom said their 386 is fine and, just because all the other kids have better PC’s, it doesn’t mean THEY have to jump off the bridge too. (now eat your potatoes!)”

      I would still suggest to replace that 386 — but income may be an issue, and, if it works, why Upgrade?

      “6: When you have no social life and no skills beyond ‘penguin commands’, you need a little something to make you feel mainstream and included again.”

      mainstream? I thought you said ” out of the mainstream and unique” — make up your friggin mind already

      “5: Some people actually think being a geek is a good thing, they need to think they are an elite club that only geeks would join and others are mere n00bs.”

      Not exactly — being a semi-geek is a good thing, and not everyone is a n00b, but there are a lot of friggin rejects out there.

      “4: Now that security and viruses are not such a horrific issue with Windows, they need to wave their penguin flippers a bit more often in order to not be forgotten.”

      Since when is security and viruses not a threat anymore??? You are reading too many MS marketing papers apparently. This is a complete waste of thought processes. Get a clue

      “3: Their secret world has been taken over by those who have the income and resources to buy higher end hardware, so Windows runs well for most people now.”

      More MS Hype???

      “2: Linux no longer has much of an edge on Windows in most cases of speed and stability. They can’t be forgotten.”

      Windows IS getting better on Stability, I can go that far, and Win 7 the speed is decent. but the same system will SCREAM with Linux. Win is still bloatware and has much more DRM controls.

      “And the numer one reason Linux users hate Windows users:
      Linux conventions are the only place they could possibly justify wearing a tuxuedo (or more commonly, a tuxuedo t-shirt).”

      And the problem here?? What about Tux tatoos?? (Jack — care for input)

      • #2956737

        Read it scumbag

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to You are just starting a fire arent you???

        I see I found the gasoline! LOL

        9) the problem? Hanging on by a thread, that is thinning and near a hot flame, not worth teh hype these days that’s for sure.

        8) Linus ISN”T very entertaining, thus the OS BS is away to kill the boredom. Yes, Linux puts me to sleep.

        7) Why upgrade? The constant complaint from Linux users is how you need high end machines to run all the new toys in a MS OS. Why upgrade? No reason if you’re happy, but I find it more fun to be able to play with new toys and get away from the old hooop and stick. Why play pong when you can play X-Box?

        6) Was about the same old anti-MS arguments being offered years after such things were a real issue. Bloated? Stay with acurrent machine. Slow? Don’t run Vista on a P4. Buggy? Haven’t has such issues in many releases myself.

        5) Is all about being an elitist, no way to work around that one.

        4) “Since when is security and viruses not a threat anymore??? ”
        Not what I said at all. I said they are not such a horrific issue. Vista is pretty damn secure and stable compared to previous releases.

        3) Windows users have far fewer issues and complaints these days than in the past, not MS hype but reality of working with MS users.
        but Linux users still parrot the same old arguments that were valid for Win98.

        2) DRM control? That’s a myth in yoru head. DRM is not legal protection in some countries. DRM restrictions, apparently associated with Vista, are complete horseshit. LINUX is the problem. You can play both DRM protected and NON DRM protected files with Windows. Linux will NOT play DRM protected content. (yes its a popular fact, just Google it and you’ll see the rant aout Vista DRM was crap.)

        1) Classless and sad.

        • #2958992

          Ah, you are just full of yourself today, arent you :^0

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to Read it scumbag

          Ok, before the women arrive I’ll take the bait.
          9. Hanging by a thread — yeah — since Vista released, how many people either switched or tried a Linux flavor? I think you got it wrong here, *nix advocates didnt even push hard for that to happen — instead they let MS tie the noose themselves.

          8. That is because you are doing something wrong. If Linux isnt exciting, you are lost forever on Win. No shame, but no need to try bashing anyone else that finds Linux exciting. Go back to your Vista box.

          7. I said I would recommend an upgrade from a 386. Will any browser still connect to the Internet on a 286/386? LOL Just the thought is entertaining.
          However, they dont need to go broke on an upgrade. A processor/RAM/MB upgrade can cost about $100 and give them a good run against a $1000 Vista system.

          6. Good for you. Are you saying that everyone that had/has issues is lying? Do you use every possible configuration and software package on your system??? If not — this argument you cannot have cause you dont know. All you know is that for your useage, it has not been a problem. Should I bring out the ST*U now? No, I think I’ll wait a bit more 😀

          5. Oh **** it out your hole on this one. Not all Linux users deem themselves superior. Not all Linux users need to feel elite. if you keep running into them, it is likely cause you turn up the flames pretty well 😀

          4. Yes, but I still have found several viri on Vista systems. I still havent found one on any of my *nix boxes. Ok, it is getting better, but that does not make it safe now. *nix users still have an advantage here.

          3. You have got to be kidding. Happy Win users have less complaints. Average Win users are still trying to avoid Vista/Win 7 like the plague. I dont know where you got your info, but it must be from MS or an affiliate.

          2. MS has made strides on stability. I will have to admit that. However, I still gotta reboot Vista from time to time. I had a PCLOS box running for 5 months, using it every day — never rebooted. I still doubt that Vista or Win 7 can do that — wait — nope, they cant — even Win7 had an update recently that forced a reboot.

          1. :^0 :^0 :^0 — I agree, but I had to include it.

    • #2950483

      Cancel my shipment of 10-foot poles.

      by charliespencer ·

      In reply to 10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

      I won’t be needing them, since I’m won’t be touching this topic with one.

    • #2950479

      Real reason

      by saurondor ·

      In reply to 10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

      The reason is just one. It’s sour grapes. Linux users are upset because they’re not getting credit for Window’s greatness.

      If it were not for products like Linux and OS X (another POSIX bases system):

      a) Windows would be a great GUI based OS with no need for command line commands, but only Minesweeper and Notepad to play with. Errr, and Solitaire too.

      b) Your corporate site would work great on IE 11, but would black out every 23 days at around 11 PM as NT 6.2 was rebooted for maintenance.

      c) Windows would still be the same virus and security issued riddled OS.

      d) Multiuser OS would still mean two or more chairs in front of the keyboard.

      e) Bugs would still be features.

      f) Netbooks would run Vista.

      g) Routers and other mission critical hardware on the backbone would run Vista too.

      h) There would be no command line scripting language in Windows. Automation would consist of Tai-Chi styled mouse click practices. Now Daniel san, show me add new AD user policy.

      i) Reboots would still be required to install applications. Oh wait, they still are! Sorry my bad.

      j) There wouldn’t be any .NET. Oh wait, that’s actually a good thing!

      😉

      • #2950450

        Reboots would still be required to install applications. Oh wait, they stil

        by slayer_ ·

        In reply to Real reason

        That’s application specific, and stupid installer companies that insist on trying to tell you to restart your computer. Just choose no. You will be fine.

      • #2950449

        f) Netbooks would run Vista.

        by slayer_ ·

        In reply to Real reason

        They do run vista.
        I have yet to see an XP netbook in stores. All with Vista, and the odd $399 will be running Linux of some sort.

        • #2950437

          Funny — Netbooks I have seen

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to f) Netbooks would run Vista.

          all had XP on them

        • #2950433

          Isn’t your best buy belly up?

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to Funny — Netbooks I have seen

          I see them all the time at best buy and future shop.
          I’ve yet to see XP sold on any computers anymore.

          Then again, we still have the cheapest netbook at 399, so no matter what, its all f**ked up.

          Suffice to say, at 399 for a Linux netbook, they are the worst selling computers in history here.
          I have checked this, I took a sticky lable from xmas, wrote the date on it, and stuck it on the bottom of a netbook that was forsale at best buy. 3 months later I went back and sure enough, still there, I was at best buy last week, ITS STILL THERE!
          I bet if I went back now it’s still there.

        • #2950422

          labeling the floor model

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to Isn’t your best buy belly up?

          doesnt mean shlt. Often the floor model is there as long as there is any systems of that type left for sale. Sometimes more than a year.

        • #2950401

          you’d think they would sell it for a newer version

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to labeling the floor model

          When everyone else I read there is sub $300 netbooks, the cheapest here is $399, and then they price jump to $600.
          Friend of mine just bought a 2ghhz duel with nVidia 9600 mobile graphics and 300gb HDD for $1,200 bucks, basicallyy the cost of two netbooks he got a kickass notebook. And it has Windows on it, not Linux, so he can fully utilize all that power for whatever he actually intends to do with that thing.

        • #2956726

          Hopefully Vista

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to you’d think they would sell it for a newer version

          If he downgrades to XP, as so many ‘savvy’ users and consultants recommend, he will lose the ability to properly manage processing the dual core and will ultimately be running a low powered P4.

          XP does not offer multicore processor support.

          Just an FYI .

        • #2956690

          Really?

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to you’d think they would sell it for a newer version

          Hmmm, I have a Dual Core XP machine at home which uses both cores pretty well. What it wont do is use 4 cores

        • #2959035

          Only XP Pro

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to you’d think they would sell it for a newer version

          XP Pro supports SMP, but not other non pro flavours. Perhaps my saying multiCORE was an error as XP does support a single socket/multicore processor with Hyper Threading, but multiple sockets would have been more accurate, where only the business versions support more than one socket, according to MS anyway.

          I think the key issue is that Vista has better process management support for multicore processors.

        • #2950400

          I went an checked today

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to labeling the floor model

          it is still there, though it has been moved.

          Funny though, I asked the guy about it, what it’s specs were, he said “i dunno”

          awesome…

          Also, guy behind the upgrades counter, they had a GTX260, but he couldnt tell me if its fist or second gen, he said its been there for 8 months, so probably first gen, its also previous opened, guess what they want for it? $350 opened, reg price 450. A NEW SECOND GEN GTX260 is only worth $300 at the most. Both Future shop AND Best buy deserve to go belly up, they are fricken idiots.

        • #2950275

          Sounds like

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to I went an checked today

          they dont pay attention well to current pricing — or — think that nobody does their homework!

          For non-computer stuff, Macy’s and Kohls are off my list for several reasons, including jacking up the price by more than 2x, and posting a sale sign next to an item that is not on sale and with a different sku (but similar item). By the time you get to the register, you are paying full price for something you thought was on sale. Heck, at Macy’s we called them on it, and tey said that the sale sign was for an item that they hadnt had in stock for over a year! Price difference was shown as sale $19.99 — checkout $49.99

        • #2956725

          it’s the rotation process

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to I went an checked today

          When I sold audio in teh early 80’s it was a matter of KNOWLEDGE. I sold high end products and dealt mainly with audiophiles who really knew their shirt.

          Across teh street they opened FutureShop (back when it was an Iranian tax shelter) and the reps were a joke. They would last two weeks and you’d bever get after sale support.

          After it was bought out and BestBuy was in teh picture, they changed their business model again. Today they are all minimum wage staff, not comissioned. They all work in different departments and don’ tgeta chance to specialize in any specific area. Dan will e in computers this week and if scheduling demands it he will be in CD’s next week. Greg was working in teh camera department in June and in July he is behind the upgrades counter.

          Specialists they aren’t, retail ‘clerks’ they have become.

        • #2956710

          thats why…

          by —tk— ·

          In reply to I went an checked today

          I go to Micro Center… or microcenter.com

        • #2959024

          I agree — there is only 1 Micro Center here

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to I went an checked today

          but since my first visit, I have been a fan, and rarely disappointed. Only time I have actually walked out ua bit bent was when they kept trying to pressure me into buying Vista and telling me how much better it was, when I went in for XP pro (online showed they had it in stock).

        • #2956728

          Best Buy

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Isn’t your best buy belly up?

          I was meetign with Best Buy Canada’s lawyer last week, there were a lot of misconceptions in the industry of their fate.

          They are not dead yet and in fact have just opened two new stores in the west.

          they didn’t sell their display omdel/ Heaven forbid?

          Our company sells products all teh time, we have a warehouse and keep good stock levels so we don’t sell off demos. IN the caseof BestBuy, they have an asset tracking system that automatically reorders products as skus pass through teh checkstand, ensuring that popular models stay in stock at all times. They can track a shipment from production to teh retail floor and all stops on the way, why would they need to sell a demo unit? Seeing as they are lucky to make 8 points thye couldn’t possibly offer a better price break on one.

      • #2950448

        e) Bugs would still be features.

        by slayer_ ·

        In reply to Real reason

        They still are, look at what they did to firefox to add “Features”

      • #2956735

        No sweat

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Real reason

        Give credit where credit is due. Provide yoru patents and I’ll credit you with your abilities and validate your arguments.

    • #2950476

      Bravo!

      by santeewelding ·

      In reply to 10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

      Not so much for the particulars, but for the balls.

      • #2950475

        I am now awaiting

        by the scummy one ·

        In reply to Bravo!

        the need to fan flames to entice a war 😀 😀 😀

      • #2956713

        not you too!

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Bravo!

        I made a few bets last weekend and my friend was saying I had cast iron clangers to be so bold. When the 51:1 horse came in on top of a 9:1 with the favorites left in the dust, he then claimed I am clanging ball guy.

        I just want nuts, not cast iron, not steel, not plutonium, just a normal set of nads (though I will accept them still being immensely huge). 🙂

    • #2950457

      You know, you sound like a closet linux user

      by xxjmoxx ·

      In reply to 10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

      nt

      • #2956709

        I have used it

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to You know, you sound like a closet linux user

        I was an MCNE when Suse and Novell first started sleeping together. I’ve rolled out SUSE sitewide more than once and it was hot as hell with very few user issues.

        It doesn’t mean I have to run around looking for any MS thread to stick my oar in and claim MS is bloated, Vista is the worst OS to date and needs high end hardwae and lots of RAM, I can run anything Windows can but better, I am elite and all others are mere n00bs without a clue about what makes an OS worthwhile.

        Nix users bore me with their rhetoric, its tiring and old, and they need to come out with some new ammo, Windows 3.11 and Windows 7 are very different operating systems.

        • #2959037

          And then

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to I have used it

          you come here and make the same post/argument over and over again… Hmmm… Doesnt that make it old and boring?
          Or is it because it is you, that it is now OK?

          Hmmm.. Pondering :^0

        • #2959026

          Nice try

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to And then

          But only one thread with replies to multiple people. No, it is nothing even close to the same.

          What’s funny is when people on TR try to use YOU TOO examples and they are SO far fetched and don’t apply as they are intended.

          It happens all the time here, the analogies are what crack me up most though. People use an analogy that is actually a life lesson related to something completely different that the meaning they intend to apply it to.

          Do people just learn sayings, like they learn to spell by phonetics or something.

          Someone has a memory like an elephant and they’ll say, “yeah, I’ve got a memory like a chip off the old block!”

          They use THEN instead of THAN or vice versa,
          because they sound the same in an American accent but have totally different applications.

          I hear and read better Chinglish in Vancouver. And we all know what Chinglish is like, http://www.ebgrish.com

          Hilarious, English as a foreign language.

          It’s amazing how many Americans get the wrong understanding and yet people from non-Enlglish speaking countries can quickly pick up the correct meanings to comments made here.

    • #2950405

      ya got it wrong Oz

      by jaqui ·

      In reply to 10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

      we don’t hate windows users, we hate windows itself. :p

      • #2950359

        Hate windows- but love the users

        by j-mart ·

        In reply to ya got it wrong Oz

        Windows users and their dogy OS, which needs much care and attention to keep barely usable, are there to generate a good steady revenue stream for the IT pro.

        • #2956718

          See Chad / apotheon’s take on that notion.

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to Hate windows- but love the users

        • #2956699

          Ah there it is, good stuff!

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Hate windows- but love the users

          I was waiting for some linux fanboy to chime in with Linux vs Windows rhetoric that dates back to Win95.

          Too much care and attention? I haven’t even rebooted my notebook in over a month!
          You clearly don’t know Vista well enough, though you will most likely list your decades of experience working with MS engineers to make it work. Or else a list of users you downgraded because you ensured them that system tweaks were flaws that couldn’t e fixed.

          Your story is ancient, as are most other Linux users stories, you read the opening post and replied with exactly what was predicted, well done, way to fit a mold!

        • #2959003

          But it is the Way the IT business operates

          by j-mart ·

          In reply to Ah there it is, good stuff!

          OZ that was from you a pathetic reply to a fairly pathetic and pointless forum.

          Of course my story is ancient (as ancient as the PC and Microsoft), before these times computing was on heavy iron and well trained professionals, now it’s for every man woman and child and their dog, from the very skilled to the complete idiot.

          For business the complete idiot, with money are the most desirable, and windows users who are complete idiots are more common than Linux users who are complete idiots, statistically because there are more windows users than Linux users even if there were percentage wise the same ratio of Windows/Linux idiot as there are much more windows users.

          Another disadvantage with Linux users is,even if they have money to spend, they don’t like to spend it, thats why they use Linux, free and gets great performance from modest hardware.

          Windows has also allowed the odd idiot to even join the once exclusive profession of computer tech, back in the old days when the old iron cost more than the economies of some third world countries not just anyone was allowed to go near this equipment, I can recall an old friend of mine, in spite of being a well qualified and experienced electronic tech, when he applied for a position at Buroughs he was required to pass a series of aptitude tests to determine if his mind worked the right way to make a good tech, they then spent a fortune on training him before letting him near the equipment. Now days turn up at a technological institute pay your money you can be a tech even if you should not be, some of them even believe installing and operating a Linux system is a massively complex task, well beyond the ability of mere mortals or Microsoft techs requiring a special class of being called a geek to even turn on a Linux system.

          The Windows OS has also been carefully engineered to allow these ordinary users to do silly things to their system at will, (poor separation of user/admin accounts), of course the more enlightened user and pro won’t fall easily into these traps the standard idiot user will. Your Vista notebook, when used by you may run faultlessly for months, put an idiot on it and see if this changes. Linux with it’s better, proper multi-user architecture will allow proper user separation to prevent an ordinary user from screwing over system. In case an idiot does not get the chance, Microsoft, with their back doors can screw your system also. Would you trust windows to be the OS in control of the US nuclear deterrent, or the Space Shuttle, would anyone be silly enough to use it as the OS on the Stealth Bomber for the computers that keep it flying.

          So as I said, though it may be old hat, the computer industry loves Windows users, Its not just Linux/Windows fanboy BS, though that seems to be the point of this forum you have started, it is the computer industry as we know it, IBM Apple, Microsoft have all done a lot towards bringing computers into the mainstream and away from the back room boffins, and because they are corporate entities, the driving force has not been technical perfection but making a buck so we have not always got the best, but we have learned to work with what we have got.

          If you ever get the chance look at the now extinct British Acorn machines from the 80’s – 90’s with there ARM processors, way superior to any Intel, before Pentiums, top notch OS and desktop for the time, best has never meant, most commercially successful in this industry.

          We may have had an industry with better engineered products, more reliable, secure , less work to maintain, then we would need a smaller support infrastructure, less techs needed, many of the less competent ones would be out of work, it may be a more efficient way of doing things, but those that have built their business in the present way of doing things are not likely to want to change, Microsoft and their users are good for business.

        • #2959002

          Your other name would be…

          by santeewelding ·

          In reply to But it is the Way the IT business operates

          Marconi?

    • #2958976

      They are only computers OZ

      by j-mart ·

      In reply to 10 Reasons Linux users hate Windows users

      If your life is reduced to you needing to find 10 reasons to why one group of users of computers would actually have hatred for another group of computer users, things must be slow in Canada. Most don’t take computers that seriously, after all they are only tools to do a job.

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