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Ageism? Good Idea?

By dotxen ·
Do we really want to have old geeks in our industry? Isn't it time we came clean with the truth and said it like it is? Older people (over 40s) working in the IT industry is like a wrinkly driving a sports car...pathetic! Buy a Volvo for Christsakes!

The oldies struggle to keep up with change. It's a natural consequence of aging. They prattle on about how important understanding DOS is, when no-one gives a toss about DOS anymore and 90% of current IT folk don't even know what it is!

If you were interviewing candidate for a job in network technical support, would you employ a 55 year old? Truthfully please!

It is for the young.......isn't it?

What do you think?

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Ageism

by dale.raymond In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

There is a lot to be said for experience. As for DOS being dead and gone. Because of a varity of security restrictions, two weeks ago I had to use DOS, that's right DOS... to rename a couple of links so they could be sent through our mail system. Perhaps we should consider that the young and old should and would learn from each other.

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To Tell You The Truth Mate

by dotxen In reply to Ageism

Hi and thank you for that.

I am 55 years old and I have been in the IT industry here in the UK for 15 years.

I wrote the topic because I wanted to provoke debate over an issue that rarely gets any air-time. It has been a very busy week. I have received some fairly abusive mail. No matter. I am happy to have made folk think. I just hope that those who do hire and fire have read this and realise that people like me have so much to offer.

Thank you for your time and interest. I do appreciate the response, even if you were being annoyed with me. Well, I deserved it.


Robb

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Don't k

by set me free In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

Hey Robb...how about you stick it where the sun does not shine. I happen to work in a very large work environment where the majority of techies are over age 40. There is a good reason for it...they are mature employees that don't walk around like they are some kind of god preaching meaningless crap as you.
Just remember feller you will be there someday yourself if your cocky attitude does not get you killed first.
By the way...most of the old cane carrying tech group I work with have not used DOS for years.
You are totally off base with the post.

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I Guess I Asked For That

by dotxen In reply to Don't k

Hi and thank you for that.

I am 55 years old and I have been in the IT industry here in the UK for 15 years.

I wrote the topic because I wanted to provoke debate over an issue that rarely gets any air-time. It has been a very busy week. I have received some fairly abusive mail. No matter. I am happy to have made folk think. I just hope that those who do hire and fire have read this and realise that people like me have so much to offer.

Thank you for your time and interest. I do appreciate the response, even if you were being annoyed with me. Well, I deserved it.


Robb

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Just turned 50. Thanks for the Happy Birthday Note

by wdmills In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

I agree with you to a certain extent, but I truly believe there are exceptions.

I've been at this second career for seven years now and have truly enjoyed it. I've attained CCNP and MCSE 2003 status over the years and have kept up pretty well in my opinion. My MBA and commercial pilot's license also come in handy for grammatically correcting my younger peers and flying quickly to the site of a network emergency. I've just started work toward a CCIE as I find the entire concept of routing fasinating. I realize I'll be the oldest at the lab and that I'll probably fail the lab portion two or three times like everybody else, but you've got to give me credit for trying. I've taught "30 somethings" how to setup routers, build servers, troubleshoot hardware problems with server and routers, program military encryption devices, terminate fiber in the field and taught them how to be tolerant of the customer's lack of IT knowledge.

I'm not about to engage in a "dogging" contest with you and realize that you're engaging numerous people into a synergistic age discrimination discussion.

I will discuss the lack of apathy that I see shown toward the average IT customer. I find the typical administrator's attitude toward the customer appalling. It matters not to the adminstrator that the customer is a lawyer, accountant, airline pilot, CEO, etc...if they don't understand TCP or IP they're not worth the time of day. Face it, if you're working in IT you're in a service industry whether your ego will allow this admission or not.

From an old man in IT. Work hard, be tolerant of all and learn something from everyone, regardless of their age.

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by dotxen In reply to Just turned 50. Thanks f ...

Hi and thank you for that.

I am 55 years old and I have been in the IT industry here in the UK for 15 years.

I wrote the topic because I wanted to provoke debate over an issue that rarely gets any air-time. It has been a very busy week. I have received some fairly abusive mail. No matter. I am happy to have made folk think. I just hope that those who do hire and fire have read this and realise that people like me have so much to offer.

Thank you for your time and interest. I do appreciate the response, even if you were being annoyed with me. Well, I deserved it.


Robb

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age nurturing

by drdwpul In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

Does age limiting mean that ALL CEO's, and ALL other high ranking officers should not be into decision making and that their lack of knowledge is what is running the underlings? I guess that we should also forget simple arithmatic so we can better apply the more complex calculus and theory mathmatics. Or maybe even forget studies of any history so we can repeat some of the mistakes made in the ageless past of our world. Have a nice DREAM Robb.

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Dreams Are Made Of This

by dotxen In reply to age nurturing

Hi and thank you for that.

I am 55 years old and I have been in the IT industry here in the UK for 15 years.

I wrote the topic because I wanted to provoke debate over an issue that rarely gets any air-time. It has been a very busy week. I have received some fairly abusive mail. No matter. I am happy to have made folk think. I just hope that those who do hire and fire have read this and realise that people like me have so much to offer.

Thank you for your time and interest. I do appreciate the response, even if you were being annoyed with me. Well, I deserved it.


Robb

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My reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

by AJRussell In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

Well, isn't that nice.

What about all of those old guys that went bact to school to "retool" their skills?

Given their experienct, and new tech skills, wouldn't they be a better choice for employers over sumeone just out of school without any other experience than working at some fast food joint while he or she was going to high school?

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Yep - Probably

by dotxen In reply to My reply to Ageism? Good ...

Hi and thank you for that.

I am 55 years old and I have been in the IT industry here in the UK for 15 years.

I wrote the topic because I wanted to provoke debate over an issue that rarely gets any air-time. It has been a very busy week. I have received some fairly abusive mail. No matter. I am happy to have made folk think. I just hope that those who do hire and fire have read this and realise that people like me have so much to offer.

Thank you for your time and interest. I do appreciate the response, even if you were being annoyed with me. Well, I deserved it.


Robb

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