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Ageism? Good Idea?

By dotxen ·
Do we really want to have old geeks in our industry? Isn't it time we came clean with the truth and said it like it is? Older people (over 40s) working in the IT industry is like a wrinkly driving a sports car...pathetic! Buy a Volvo for Christsakes!

The oldies struggle to keep up with change. It's a natural consequence of aging. They prattle on about how important understanding DOS is, when no-one gives a toss about DOS anymore and 90% of current IT folk don't even know what it is!

If you were interviewing candidate for a job in network technical support, would you employ a 55 year old? Truthfully please!

It is for the young.......isn't it?

What do you think?

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A pointless topic

by zwayne In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

Are you just looking for a heated discussing with this largely meaningless topic? You hire the best person for the job. Age is irrelevant. But idiocy, as exhibited by the OP, isn't...

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Not pointless!!!

by kevaburg In reply to A pointless topic

You can quite happily create a heated discussion out of this and the amount of posted replies proves it! If you were an employer and had to employ an experienced IT professional or a green IT youth who would YOU choose?

You cannot convince me that it would be the old guy because he would cost alot more and that it what this discussion is all about! Cutting costs and hoping good results is what comes out of it is what business is about today.

This discussion is anything but pointless.

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Absolutley Spot On !

by dotxen In reply to Not pointless!!!

I wrote the original topic because so many of my students, clients and friends had found it very difficult to get into IT due (they believe) their maturity.

I am 55 years now, and I too would have the same problems if I had to get into this industry. In fact I recently carried out a test (you can read about it in my other topic) to see exactly what would happen. Nothing happened. I didn't get offered any jobs, until I reapplied using false information and a younger me on the photograph on my CV.

This is NOT a pointless thread. It is incredibly important. We have laws (here in the UK) about racial, homophobic and religious prejudice and incitement. We have virtually nothing to protect the mature. Which is crazy as they/we have so much stored value.

Thank you for your very kind support.

Robb

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So let's just get rid of them all?

by joconnor In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

Well sonny sounds like you put your pants on over your head and are talking through your a..hole. So you think oldies can't learn new tricks? I'm 65 and still the best programmer, .net no less!!

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NO WAITING -> Gas & a Lighter

by Eddie.Albert In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

Robb,

You wingnut! You just alienated all the hiring old farts out there for any young "wingnut" looking for a job!

May the fleas from a 1,000 programmers infest your tentacles! (Yeah I know what I was spelling) /ALE

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Bad Idea. Illegal Idea in the USA.

by NickinSD2004 In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

I am an older worker in the IT field. I have not had any problems keeping up with changes. I started out working on IBM System 3s and System 36s. I now currently work with Cisco routers, Windows Servers, SCO Unix boxes, IBM AS400, Desktop and Laptop PCs.

Everyone (old and young alike) at my office knows what DOS is.

<<"If you were interviewing candidate for a job in network technical support, would you employ a 55 year old? Truthfully please!">>

If the choice is between the 55 year-old and you and the 55 year-old can say "computer", I would select the 55 year-old. My two main reasons are:

1) He is probably teachable. You appear to know it all.

2) Your attitude sucks: <<"Older people (over 40s) working in the IT industry is like a wrinkly driving a sports car...pathetic! Buy a Volvo for Christsakes!">> IT is as much people oriented as it is hardware and software. I don't need an employee bad-mouthing older workers.

IT is for those who are capable of doing the job. Age is irrelevant.

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not able to change

by edward.dennis In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

I have been in IT since 1979. Which might tell you about how old I am.
Yes I remember DOS. Today I work with W2k3 and Linux. I have not stopped learning, I do it every day.
It isn't that I am unwilling to change. I love change and that is why I am in this business, it never stops changing.
Sometimes it is that I already made that mistake, and I don't need to see if it is still wrong.

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Your assumptions are ludicrous

by wdayton In reply to Ageism? Good Idea?

Having worked with a number of people for many years in the IT industry, I'd have to say you're argument has a number of flaws.

1) you assume that anyone over a certain age is unable to keep up with technology.
2) younger doesn't mean smarter, or faster.

that being said, older people do have a great deal of experience and knowledge to share. chances are they have "been there and done that" more times than you can count.

to answer your question...I WOULD hire a 55 year old, if hey were the right person for the job. period.

beware of painting with a wide brush...you may paint yourself into a corner.

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Before jumping to conclusions, ...

by deepsand In reply to Your assumptions are ludi ...
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carpetbombing again, I see

by apotheon In reply to Before jumping to conclus ...

This is utterly asinine. It's hard to believe you're being this obnoxious in yet another thread. If your aim is to annoy people, you're on the right track.

It's not your job to instruct the whole world in what you think everyone should know, and it sure isn't your job to spread duplicates of the same post all over the damned place like this. You're about a hair's breadth away from spamming.

It's not reasonable to expect everyone to read the entire thread, so there's no reason to get tetchy with them over the misconceptions robb has created. Good ol' robb has made his bed with that absurd, stupid, trollish post that started this thread, and should be allowed to lie in it: the consequences of that action (namely, the poor regard in which robb is held by people that take the deception at face value) are not your responsibility. I don't know if one of those two is the reason you feel it incumbent upon yourself to become the Supreme Busybody of TR, and "inform" everyone of their errors, but you're doing a bang-up job of ensuring that the signal-to-noise ratio of this thread has dropped significantly.

Those who have actually been following the thread are far less likely to continue following it when a significant percentage of the discussion is the same friggin' post repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Is your goal to reduce the intellectual value of TR to a least common denominator status by hammering every discussion with redundant posts? Don't bother answering: even if that is your goal, I don't expect you to admit it.

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