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AJAX is NOT an invented technology, just a set of Javascripts

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AJAX is ubiquitous.

You HAVE to be kidding me

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>> Ajax is so great it’s hardly used and not all that well known about,

Hardly used? You have no idea what you are talking about. NONE! At all. ZERO

Ajax is one of the most important technologies since the hyper link. Web 2.0 hinges on it. It dominates the web development landscape. Every time someone likes or posts something on facebook they use AJAX.

You will argue anything. You are more interested in being right than than learning or understanding something.

To argue that “Ajax is so great it’s hardly used and not all that well known about,” is absolutely asinine. Every web designer or developer knows about AJAX. if they don’t they should be fired for gross incompetence

it isn’t a technology and it’s so great and widely used that I only found

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out today it’s blocked on my system as I finally hit a site that uses it. And when I checked the blocking rules the one being activated was to block Ajax. All these months and only now do I get a site that uses it.

Now it isn’t a technology?

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Then what the funk is it? Wait… Let me get some popcorn so I can watch the mental gymnastics as you weasel out of THAT idiotic statement.

It isnt a technology, just a technique, sonething totally different, so

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different they have different names for what they are.

Let me summerize

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You said :
the people at Microsoft have absolutely NO INNOVATION capability or original thoughts, never have, never will.

I said yes they have. They created AJAX, One of the most important innovations in the history of the internet, on par with the hyper link.

Which btw has reshaped how websites are made and the web itself by allowing developers to talk to the web server without a page refresh. Thus helping developers create desktop like interfaces for websites.

You argued and denied the point sighting various irrelevant, nit picky and face palm worthy points. i,e, “Techniques are not the same thing as a technology.”, “If AJAX is so important why am I just learning about it?” etc.

I grew frustrated with your nit picking, semantics, and apparent unwillingness to even listen to opposing arguments, even when supported by fact, until I finally called you an idiot. Which is a natural reaction to that sort of behavior.

AJAX is NOT an innovation, or anything new, that capability has been

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there in the Java and other coding coding.All AJAX offered was a set of preformed javascripts to make it easier for someone to use them without writing the code from scratch. Claiming it is an innovative new technology is liking claiming a bunch of related Excel Macros are an innovative technology.

As wikipedia tells us, copied from more reliable sources

Ajax (an acronym for Asynchronous JavaScript and XML) is a group of interrelated web development techniques used on the client-side to create asynchronous web applications.

NOTE – it says right there techniques, not technology. Which you have trouble seeing the difference between. A technology change in tennis is the new composite material for making tennis racquets, while a technique is a different style of hitting the ball with your backhand; maybe that will help you understand the two.

AJAX does NOT provide a NEW ability to communicate with the servers, that has been there with a lot of the available scripting programs for some time, what it does do is allow you to create a page so that interaction can be done without letting the person using the page know it’s happening – thus AJAX is loved by spyware and malware people.

Anyway, this technique may well be on the way out as it’s not fully compatible with HTML 5 in the way it’s currently used.

Also AJAX is NOT as pervasive as you think it is either. It’s NOT that common once you get away from the people trying to flood web pages with ads.

Are you really that clueless?

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That has to be *the* most idiotic things I have ever heard in my life. You have no idea what you are talking about and yet you argue like a true believer.

No, he’s not clueless

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He is correct about the difference between techniques & technology.

Do you have data to contradict the rest of what he has posted? Post links.

Also AJAX is NOT as pervasive as you think?

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AJAX is used in quite a bit in WordPress and according to various sources wordpress powers 59 million websites or 15% to 25% of the active websites on the internet.

http://en.wordpress.com/stats/

WordPress Now Powers 22 Percent Of New Active Websites In The U.S.

http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress/all/all

Do you live under a rock?

gee, that’s real odd, as none of the websites I visit are made by

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wordpress, and the only one I regularly visit that has Ajax running on it uses it to push huge loads of ads at visitors. Maybe I’m just lucky and don’t go near the malware loaded sites at all.

AJAX

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Ernest is correct, AJAX is a technique and wasn’t invented by Microsoft anymore than Al Gore invented the Internet. It uses the XMLHTTPRequest object to communicate with the web server, avoiding the uload/reload cycle. Pretty-much the same thing can be accomplished using hidden frames, though not as cleanly.

info

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming)

Purple, this is a ‘Take off line’ sub-thread where

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Dethpod claimed Ajax was a whole new tech invented solely by Microsoft and I posted that same link and quoted the section from that wiki article on technologies where it points out Ajax is only a technique that uses other technologies – but Dethpod is so set on abusing me he can’t see the facts presented to him.

edit – to correct typo – I’d get a new keyboard that has more than 8 readable letters, except I can’t find any without a number pad and have decent sized keys I like at a good price, yet.

understand

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and no worries…i make all kinds of errors and then have to edit them…and i`m a trained typist :>

and I’m a self-taught typist as they didn’t teach boys typing in my day

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so I had to teach myself years later – the miracle is that i do so few typos with this keyboard as I rely on muscle and location memory.

Cool, you do seem to have it down

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or not.

at a rough guess, I suspect I’m making about one wrong key stroke per

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thousand keystrokes – but then I do a heck of a lot of typing in story writing and editing.

i`m impressed

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you do better than i do 😉

Actually, Purple, I think it’s just that I do one heck of a lot of typing

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each word in the final version of a story represents, one average – I think, between five and ten typed during the creation, edit, and revision phases. Completed stories to date total over two million words and I’ve over half a million more in works in progress. That’s just what I’ve done as fiction in the last eleven years. So there’s between twelve to twenty five million words, plus the many millions on this and other forums. Through in another ten million or so extra characters with the coding information to make many of the stories suitable for display as html, and you can see why I were the paint of keyboards so often. Then there’s all the keyboard use with entering info for all the family history research and work I do.

I usually spend in excess of twelve hours a day (on average) pounding the keyboard for one reason or another. When typing fast, as in real creative mode I easily hit over one hundred words a minute, but often am much slow than that while I consider what I’m typing.

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