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By jardinier ·
What is this? Is it a new religion, or perhaps a new political movement?
Now before I become involved in these TR political discussions I had never heard the term used anywhere. I am certainly not anti-America, the country, or anti-American, the individual. In fact I have mentioned in some earlier discussion that I have liked the Americans whom I have met, and I also stated that when I was Living in Kings Cross, at the time of the Vietnam War, I was very impressed by the refinement and courtesy of the US soldiers who came to this part of Sydney for their R & R. Some girls living in the same rooming house as myself went out with some of these men, and likewise commented on their gentlemanly behaviour.

Now I may not like the current US Administration, and I most certainly have good reasons (too many to list here) to dislike the current Australian government. But this does not mean that I dislike America and Americans in general, any more than I would be inclined to dislike Australia or Australians in general.

Australia is a great place to live, as anyone who has visited here will agree.

So if you read any general anti-American sentiments in any of my postings, then you are imposing that interpretation yourself (yourselves).

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Ozzie - The Ugly Canadian!

by JimHM In reply to Undertones

Ozzie - you are the ugly Canadian - or should we call you the Ugly World Citizen - since you don't calm aligance to any country. You only live in Canada but dislike it (from all the other posts you have made).

From my travels I have met many, British, Aussies, South Africans, Canadians, Chineese, German and others and I have found very few (except the French and maybe 1 Canadian - sorry Ozzie just kidding) that I wouldn't mind calling a friend.

Now - I don't agree with many of their forms of government but it is their choice and beliefs. Now you can attack me or my country (Ozzie) but expect that I will defend! You have the right to bash and comment all you want on my choice of government or our leaders, but they are elected and may or may not change in 4 years. And that is our choice!

I only wish you would speak from knowledge Oz and not from La-La-Land (things in your own mind that have no basis in fact, you quote stuff but never give a source). You speak of Common knowledge - well if it were common that everyone would know it. If you or a select few only know it - then it isn't "Common Knowledge".

But all in all I think the world is a pretty dam good. And will stay that way "as long as the strong rise up to distroy the tyrants and oppressors of the weak." (OK - Ozzie baby, come with your comments of how the U.S.A. are the tyrants and oppressors of the world today.)

I guess these Political threads started because most of the tech articles lately have been pretty boring - and not worth commenting on. But what the heck - its a world community and always interesting reading ....and debating politics is like debating religon or Software or Hardware.. Microsoft or Open Source - Apple or Intel - IBM or Sun - Everyone has their beliefs and biasas..

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Still spewing crap??

by Oz_Media In reply to Ozzie - The Ugly Canadian ...

You only live in Canada but dislike it (from all the other posts you have made).
Show me one, I have NEVER said I dislike Canada, it is gorgeous! I don't believe in everything the government says, it is as screwed up as any other government.
England is my home, I'm a British citizen, the same goes for England, great country, up and down for th egovernment. Please enlighten me as to when I said I didn't like Canada, I think, as most people here, you only read what you want to hear.

"From my travels I have met many, British, Aussies, South Africans, Canadians, Chineese, German and others and I have found very few (except the French " You single out the French (and myself) but is that because you're jumping on the political bandwagon or were the people in France mean to you?

"...want on my choice of government or our leaders, but they are elected " Who elected BUSH ??

"You speak of Common knowledge - well if it were common that everyone would know it." - or your just turning a blind ignorant eye (probably because the report is considered socialist or something so you're not interested).


"But all in all I think the world is a pretty dam good. And will stay that way "as long as the strong rise up to distroy the tyrants and oppressors of the weak." - sniff....thank you oh great protector of my freedom, I humbly bow to your brilliance and now realize that in order to be great and powerful world police, we should live our lives, in fear and at war.

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Yes you should - ***SARCASM ALERT***

by mrbill- In reply to Still spewing crap??

And you should thank me for your freedom, small bills are preferred.

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by Oz_Media In reply to Yes you should - ***SARCA ...

Perhapse, before I pullout the rubber checkbook, you could tell me just HOW you have given my family and I freedom ?!? It wasn't WWI or WWII, it wasn't your little skirmish in Vietnam or Noth Korea, it wasn't the Gulf War, it wasn't the Oraqi war. Just who have you saved us from??

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WWII wasn't about freedom?!?

by TomSal In reply to Perhapse

Hey I know this isn't my thread, but I'm a fan of WWII history so I had to throw my .02 cents in.

WWII certainly was about freedom, had the Axis powers won -- the world would be very *VERY* different than what it is today. Going out on a limb here, I'll dare to say the difference wouldn't be for the better either.

But being that the Brits and the Americans (not just one or the other) were monumental in defeating the Axis as a unified fighting force* I will not say that America alone is the reason the Axis fell, that would be ego-driven, stupid and just plain wrong.

That's not how it happened.

But we (America) did contribute *significantly* to that end.

*=Yes I know the Allies were more than just the Brits and the Americans, but they were the two major forces that compromised the Allies. Since I'm American and my own relatives shed their blood in WWI, WWII and the Korean war I feel I have the right to speak of the American forces and the British forces. However I mean no disrepect to other allies.

PS. See how we bicker in these forums, and just think when our countries are unified --- damn we kick some major arse!

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You're right

by Oz_Media In reply to WWII wasn't about freedom ...

You're 100% right in saying that it was a unified Allied effort that ended the war.

Here's what your American brothers plaster at every chance.

"...America, who saved Britian from speaking German and saved France's *** a second time.. "
http://tinyurl.com/jsup


You wonder why the world see's American's as arrogant and misinformed idiots??

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Oz, you really are a piece of work

by maxwell edison In reply to You're right

And it's you who is viewed, as you said, as an arrogant and misinformed idiot.

And by the way, in reference to something you said in a different thread, it wasn't a whois search that led me to know who you are and where you work, but rather the return email address that you, yourself, sent me. (I guess we can add dumb *** to that as well.) And I don't believe for a minute the crap you spew about being self employed and so forth. You are who you are, and work where you work, regardless of how much you try to deny it. You may lie about many things, but your email return path does not lie - especially when it ALSO appears as a contact on your company's Web site!

Have a nice day, Harold.

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Still don't know where you are do you?

by Oz_Media In reply to Oz, you really are a piec ...

The return email address that you got was from NATG. I work under contract for them.
They are an internet Service Provider (ISP).
They also provide me with my email VIA their domain.

I also work under contract for TelPlus Systems, would you like to see there domain registration also?

Oh yes, I also have my own domain that is used for band related email only so I use the NATG domain for personal.

You are correct in guessing my name, but Havrey ued to be (not sure if he still is) thier netwrok administrator for the head office, which you so proudly thought is where I work.

I don't care what you believe or disbelieve, you've already shown me that you have no thought process so I wouldn't want you to go against what you KNOW is right.

Do you really think that if I worked full time in IT, that I would have time to sit here and laugh at you guys all day? Mind you, you probably THINK a lot of things. take a rest, have a nap, whatever it is you do. Forget I exist, don't post to me or anser my posts, don't bother, I don't care what you think, I don't believe a word you say (since your post with the BS ilnks) and just get on with your life. It's too short to worry about someone knowing your a loser.

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by mrbill- In reply to Still don't know where yo ...

Don't worry Oz, it's not important who you are, it's what you think and how you stand your ground, when appropreate. Though sometimes we do not see eye-to-eye, I still apreciate your opinions.
I am very new to these threads so there is still time to **** me off (SARCASM ALERT).

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Not that I am a fan of France..

by TomSal In reply to You're right

..but yep..I find it a bit interesting how people say that (Disclaimer: I've said it myself in joking tones before, hey..I'm American, its against the law to like the French..lol) we saved the French's arse in WWII. Which of course isn't entirely inaccurate, but if people would read a little history on a war called the American Revolution -- they'd see how the French saved America's arse.

That said..I must not sell out my American heritage....Screw the French! Viva la America! :)

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