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Best versus worst Linux distro

By SWLChris ·
I have replied to a few discussions, so now I will create one myself.
I would like the opinions of those familiar with Linux to rate their experience with various distributions. It could be the best or the worst.
If the best how come? Was it ease of install? Maintenence of the os? Included programs?
If it was the worst what happened to make that decision ? I'm interested in whatever might be said.
By the way , running a quad-os system here, so would be neat to see which distros you have tried that I haven't. I'm always up for checking out something new.

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cli options

by Jaqui In reply to Well Put

there is only one option you have to memorise.

-h or --help [ the long version ]

with every single cli tool in *x and *bsd it will call up a simple screen of the options for the command.

ls --help
Usage: ls [OPTION]... [FILE]...
List information about the FILEs (the current directory by default).
Sort entries alphabetically if none of -cftuSUX nor --sort.

Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too.
-a, --all do not hide entries starting with .
-A, --almost-all do not list implied . and ..
--author print the author of each file
-b, --escape print octal escapes for nongraphic characters
--block-size=SIZE use SIZE-byte blocks
-B, --ignore-backups do not list implied entries ending with ~
-c with -lt: sort by, and show, ctime (time of last
modification of file status information)
with -l: show ctime and sort by name
otherwise: sort by ctime
-C list entries by columns
--color[=WHEN] control whether color is used to distinguish file
types. WHEN may be `never', `always', or `auto'
-d, --directory list directory entries instead of contents,
and do not dereference symbolic links
-D, --dired generate output designed for Emacs' dired mode
-f do not sort, enable -aU, disable -lst
-F, --classify append indicator (one of */=@|) to entries
--format=WORD across -x, commas -m, horizontal -x, long -l,
single-column -1, verbose -l, vertical -C
--full-time like -l --time-style=full-iso
-g like -l, but do not list owner
-G, --no-group inhibit display of group information
-h, --human-readable print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M 2G)
--si likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024
-H, --dereference-command-line
follow symbolic links listed on the command line
--dereference-command-line-symlink-to-dir
follow each command line symbolic link
that points to a directory
--indicator-style=WORD append indicator with style WORD to entry names:
none (default), classify (-F), file-type (-p)
-i, --inode print index number of each file
-I, --ignore=PATTERN do not list implied entries matching shell PATTERN
-k like --block-size=1K
-l use a long listing format
-L, --dereference when showing file information for a symbolic
link, show information for the file the link
references rather than for the link itself
-m fill width with a comma separated list of entries
-n, --numeric-uid-gid like -l, but list numeric UIDs and GIDs
-N, --literal print raw entry names (don't treat e.g. control
characters specially)
-o like -l, but do not list group information
-p, --file-type append indicator (one of /=@|) to entries
-q, --hide-control-chars print ? instead of non graphic characters
--show-control-chars show non graphic characters as-is (default
unless program is `ls' and output is a terminal)
-Q, --quote-name enclose entry names in double quotes
--quoting-style=WORD use quoting style WORD for entry names:
literal, locale, shell, shell-always, c, escape
-r, --reverse reverse order while sorting
-R, --recursive list subdirectories recursively
-s, --size print size of each file, in blocks
-S sort by file size
--sort=WORD extension -X, none -U, size -S, time -t,
version -v
status -c, time -t, atime -u, access -u, use -u
--time=WORD show time as WORD instead of modification time:
atime, access, use, ctime or status; use
specified time as sort key if --sort=time
--time-style=STYLE show times using style STYLE:
full-iso, long-iso, iso, locale, +FORMAT
FORMAT is interpreted like `date'; if FORMAT is
FORMAT1<newline>FORMAT2, FORMAT1 applies to
non-recent files and FORMAT2 to recent files;
if STYLE is prefixed with `posix-', STYLE
takes effect only outside the POSIX locale
-t sort by modification time
-T, --tabsize=COLS assume tab stops at each COLS instead of 8
-u with -lt: sort by, and show, access time
with -l: show access time and sort by name
otherwise: sort by access time
-U do not sort; list entries in directory order
-v sort by version
-w, --width=COLS assume screen width instead of current value
-x list entries by lines instead of by columns
-X sort alphabetically by entry extension
-1 list one file per line
--help display this help and exit
--version output version information and exit

SIZE may be (or may be an integer optionally followed by) one of following:
kB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000*1000, M 1024*1024, and so on for G, T, P, E, Z, Y.

By default, color is not used to distinguish types of files. That is
equivalent to using --color=none. Using the --color option without the
optional WHEN argument is equivalent to using --color=always. With
--color=auto, color codes are output only if standard output is connected
to a terminal (tty).

Report bugs to <bug-coreutils@gnu.org>.


and ls is the *x version of microsoft's dir command
ouch, I guess remembering one switch is to much work.


and ls is one of 2 commands to remember.
the other being man

ls /bin ->> display listing of directory bin, which is half the cli tools

ls /sbin -> the other half the tools, the actual tools that can destroy the system and require root access to use.

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You are confusing them!

by jmgarvin In reply to Well Put

See, man is just too easy. Actually LEARNING how to use a computer, rather than clicking around until you finally find the tab/radio button/text box/etc that you need, you can simply type ONE command and be done with it.

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cli options - for windows!

by telecommuting developer/analyst In reply to Well Put

My company has me working on Perl on a Windows platform, but I am used to the CLI on UNIX/Linux environments. I found that you can install ls, grep & other GNU utilities for Win32. These ports can be found at:

http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/

Once installed, you can use a command followed by "--help" to get the usage & options. For example: `ls --help`.

On Windows I find that `ls -R` is much easier than drilling down through directories with Windows Explorer. It is certainly light-years ahead of `dir`. Also, I find `grep -r` much quicker to set up than the Windows search function -- plus you get case-specificity & reg/ex if you want for a text string.

NOTES: You have to add the directory with the tools to your %PATH%. I also had to rename find & sort to gnufind & gnusort, respectively, to avoid conflicts with Windows' find & sort.

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Try SUSE 10.0 . Many disagree but its easy!

by sdiverdown In reply to Desktop dabbler

Earlier versions of SUSE were poor at best but the latest version comes with all the goodies, OpenOffice, Firefox etc. I have several friends and family setup now and with the auto-updater and yast it is as easy as I have seen. With KDE desktop it can be configured to look very close to what people are used to seeing and getting on WIN-X. I have done over a dozen installs and had no major issues on old and new hardware. Easy is good!!!

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Really hard call...

by ~rpb~ In reply to Best versus worst Linux d ...

Ordinarily, I would have said Red Hat, for the support, but this distro has some serious installation issues. Lindows (OK, Linspire, but I like tweaking Microsoft) ~should~ be the easiest install (and probably is), but has some very serious security issues by default. Gentoo is my personal favorite, for ease of install and general compliance with the way I expect Linux to work, but somewhere deep within, my heart belongs to Debian, if only because it is, at it's very core, Linux in the very strictest definition.

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Gone a few days and look what happens

by SWLChris In reply to Best versus worst Linux d ...

Ok,I can see some people did not get the topic line of this discussion.
It was "Best versus worst LINUX distro"
Not what Winders XP can do for you, not can ya type all this url crap out in your head in a command line, it was simply put, which distro was better than another one.
I for one like the command line, especially when recompiling kernels, it runs twice as fast as there is not an Xserver taking up ram that can be used for the recompile.
I also like it when I mess up and forget to reinstall my Nvidia drivers hehehheh.
Navigating around the system in command line is fairly easy once the hang of it is achieved,cd to this or that ls there see what ya got back to main directory go elsewhere ls that sh whatever file to install..installpkg for whatever package I got....piece of cake.
Can't do that in Winders, gotta wait till the damn XP bar stops running first then log on,then wait for everything to load, **** my Slackware is up and in a GUI before Windows even gets halfway there.
But I digress.

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Best easy distro for mail server & file server?

by mandops In reply to Best versus worst Linux d ...

Apotheon replied to my earlier request (Now just need an easily installed Linux for server use, as would like a new e-mail server and a file server as good as Novell Netware. Any good suggestions?).

Has anyone else any comments on the theme please?

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Questions!

by noyoki In reply to Best easy distro for mail ...

What version of Netware/GroupWise are you guys on? We are 4.2 Netware, 5.5 GroupWise, and were looking at Open-Xchange ( http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/ ). It runs on Redhat & SLES 9. There's a migration from GroupWise 6.5 on... But not for 5.5.

What other servers were you looking at?

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Netware replacement

by mandops In reply to Questions!

We are currently running Netware SBS 5.1 with WinXP/Office XP on the desktop. Did not like Groupwise, so also had (operative word!) an MDaemon mailserver running on Win2K until a Windows update broke it (the driver for the RAID card did not like it). Unfortunately no XP driver availale for the card, so this is an opportunity to look at open source options which will utilise the existing hardware (though maybe not the RAID card). I bought an Axentra server (running some Linux sofware pre-installed with wizards for option setups) last year as a possible solution but, while simple to use, it is not as good as MDaemon and very slow. I like the robustness and reliability of Netware (been using it since version 2.1) and the way you can give rights to users and groups by volume, directory or by file. With these proprietory solutions (Netware and Windows) getting more complex and expensive, I'm exploring the possibility of Linux.

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NetWare on Linux

by apotheon In reply to Netware replacement

You should look into Novell SUSE Linux Enterprise Server if you liked NetWare so much.

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