General discussion

Locked

Brink of Destruction, aka What would Maxwell do?

By AnsuGisalas ·
Tags: Off Topic
<a href=http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/oceans-on-brink-of-catastrophe-2300272.html>A catastrophic collapse of marine life?</a>

This would be bad.

This conversation is currently closed to new comments.

Thread display: Collapse - | Expand +

All Comments

Collapse -

disturbing actions - Fracking

by PurpleSkys In reply to Brink of Destruction, aka ...

I watched a documentary on this about a year ago, it's down right scary. And I've heard they are looking at doing it around here... http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_fracturing When we are doing stuff like this, is it any wonder the environment is all messed up.

Collapse -

Actually what I found more disturbing

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to disturbing actions - Frac ...

Was a Yank Show on Drillers who where competing to sink a well. It was for FRACKing Purposes AKA Hydraulic Fracturing.

While Gaslands was OK it left a lot out and was biassed somewhat.

But in that Show they would sink a well where they wanted it for access purposes and not worry about underground water. Apparently provided that they do not have a water flow of over 100 Gallons per Hour they can still use that well to Frack the underground Coal Seam and the crap that they pour down the well to Fracture the Coal is ok to mix with the Artesian Water.

I just wouldn???t ever want something like that happening near where I live and if I relied on Subterranean water I would start drinking and washing in something else. The crap that they pump into the ground is way too dangerous to have anywhere near any water used by humans in any form.

They are effectively poisoning the Food Chain and while the American Authorities do not investigate these Gas Wells the Industry can continue to claim that there have been no proven cases where one of their wells has contaminated the Ground Water. The Industry claims are nonsensical to me and are exactly what I would expect a Government Agency to say who is covering up the crap that they have allowed to happen.

You know what they say there are Lies, Bloody Lies and Statistics.

The one thing that came through strongly in Gaslands was the way that Statistics where being used to cover the Uninvestigated Facts of what is actually happening.

Here there are currently Test Wells for this out west and they have proved that the Industry here is no better than in other parts of the world by failing to report spills or other problems that have occurred and there have been documented cases of Contamination in at least 1 occasion. I???m not actually sure that I would trust the Government to Properly Regulate this Industry here as they are dependant on the Money they expect to get from it and are no better than the Street Side Junkie hanging out for their next fix.

Only so here it???s the Government who are hanging out for the money that want from this industry.

At other times with Pokies they have a 40% incidence of Problem Gambling on Pokies and when some small Legislation is Introduced to try to curb this massive amount of Money and damage done to so many people the places who own the Pokies are complaining that their income is going to drop 40%.

They are no better than the Pusher down the street waiting for you to get more money to feed your habit and they are rubbing their hands with glee waiting to take your Money.

Of course the State Governments are so hooked on the taxes they get from Pokies they don???t want to see the Boat Rocked either.

I suppose it all comes down to the old saying never get between a Politician and Tax Payers Money.

Col

Collapse -

Question to all....

A few people are trying to attack a person for his knowledge on here instead of coming up with an answer of their own.
Is this foreplay or just bitterness?
If you dislike a person why keep up the pressure?
Coming up with some solutions to the worlds problem(s) is the correct direction of doing things instead of trying to to trip someone up.

Collapse -

Simple

by jp85257 In reply to Question to all....

Look no further than "Rules for Radicals":

"The threat is generally more terrifying than the thing itself."

"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Collapse -

Check your reading?

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Question to all....

Noone's attacking anyone.
The OP was a tribute to the good old times with Maxwell the Master Instigator.
All the rest is just friendly brawling, don't take it so seriously.
Maxwell is the only one who claims to hold ill will, though even that is dubious.

Collapse -

Advice from on high

by santeewelding In reply to Check your reading?

When you wish to combine "no" and "one", write around it. If, in spite of your best effort -- like, in cases of lethal encounter: failing not to be there -- make the best of it, like avoiding -- not being there -- complications of the possessive ("Noone's" -- gawd, what an abortion). In fact, encountering the possessive, figure out some other way to do it. How I hate the possessive. Stop in your tracks. If you have to, resort to existential poesy in order to get around it.

As to the content of your soft rebuke, thank you for saving me the trouble. I am afraid I would have been sharper with our dear friend, Pekonet.

Collapse -

That is quite ugly...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Advice from on high

"Noone's" that is, now that I see it from outside my train of thought.
Tangling contractions with possessives - it reminds me of what DJs call a train-wreck: when they mix from one track to another, and the beats of the two tracks disharmoniously clash during the transition. They beat themselves and each other up about that, too.

Thanks, and you're welcome.

Collapse -

I've tried to give solutions

by jck In reply to Question to all....

Those who don't want change because it cramps their "lifestyle" just say my facts are wrong without proof.

Those who are too lazy to do something rather than their normal activities (or inactivities) still do nothing.

A lot of people seem to have the same attitude toward environmental care as they do voting.

"Oh, I am just one person. I can't make a difference."

Throwing a plastic bottle in a recycle bin instead of a waste bin takes little, if any, extra effort.

Walking 2-3 blocks to the store, rather than driving, reduces emissions into the atmosphere.

Opening blinds/shades and using natural sunlight for indoor activities, rather than electrical lighting, reduces power generation requirements and reduces the burning of fossil fuels.

It's little things you can do to help, and most of them are free...and in some cases (like recycling aluminum) it puts money back in your pocket.

But, so many people want no inconvenience and all the benefits they can have without thinking.

So, I won't preach anymore to folks. I've given up on the majority of people in my country simply because they are too into themselves at the expense of others and the environment.

Collapse -

You're making invalid assumptions.

by jp85257 In reply to I've tried to give soluti ...

You can do all of the things you mention and still not believe in the GW claims.

Collapse -

Strange, huh?

by AnsuGisalas In reply to You're making invalid ass ...

That prudence coincides with the demands of this big bad wolf.

The saddest thing about the pursuit of convenience so enthroned in our collective culture is, that you really can't feel it.
If you get a bit more convenience today, then that is tomorrow's baseline.
Anything less than that will now feel like a drag.
Where does that lead?

Related Discussions

Related Forums