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When a site decides to set up forums, they do so with good intentions, a place where people can share their ideas and knowlage with other people, and any one can be accepted. Weither they are 1 or 100 or any age inbetween, smart or dumb, good english, bad english or no english. Yet it appears people in forums once they take an offence to something they just turn nasty, then becuase they been around for a while they get all their friends aganist this person too. Then mob rule takes over and they go on a richeous crusade to cleanse the ethnic minorities from the forum area. It’s just a forum, people still live their lives outside of it. Why bully, discriminate and harass?

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Okay, NZ_Justice – Time for some Harsh_Justice

In reply to bullying and discrimination and harassment in forums

I’ve been on the sidelines watching others take pot-shots at you, and you at them, and I’ve watched you incite that very thing. And now you are crying about it. Sorry, dude, no sympathy here.

I’ve respectfully commented on only one or two of your messages, even though your messages weren’t that respectful (the Hal9000 eye comments, for example), and I’ve taken a pass on playing your stupid games.

Let me be perfectly frank; you’re an immature dolt; you have not contributed one productive thing to these forums or this site; you’re no more than litter on the information super highway; and people don’t like to see such trash laying around.

Your idiotic quest to post nothing but nonsense and drivel, only to achieve the number one ranking, is not only obvious, but a disgusting turn-off. For the most part, the people around here are professionals, something you apparently are not. My guess is that you’re some 16 year old punk whose parents ignore you and you stay holed up in your room playing on your computer. If not, you damn sure act like one.

Do yourself a favor. Never post on this site as NZ_Justice again. Create a new account and a new alias, and try again — but only with some semblance of maturity and professionalism.

And if you started this discussion only to generate more replies to which you could post even MORE of your nonsense to further advance your score, get a friggin’ life.

Now go away, kid, you bother not only me, but all of us.

Thank you for making my point and I meant no disrespect to HAL9000

In reply to Okay, NZ_Justice – Time for some Harsh_Justice

mate sorry to offend you. I liked your reply about HAL9000 and I thanked you for it. I have posted in the Miscellaneous and I thought I could post crap here. Isn’t that why it’s Miscellaneous. I wish people would read my reply, I’m like a million times saying I’m sorry. I havn’t gotten my rating by posting in these stupid forum sections. So what i can’t place threads now because I pissed you off. Dam. I see threads of crap posted all the time. Have you gone through the treads lately? Please read this. Every body seems to overlookin my apologie and I’m getting crap form you guys for pissing you guy’s off. But thats not what this thread is about anyway. I was been more genral.

You didn’t offend me

In reply to Thank you for making my point and I meant no disrespect to HAL9000

Not in the least. You deserve a spanking, and I just gave you one — cyber style.

I repeat

In reply to Thank you for making my point and I meant no disrespect to HAL9000

Do yourself a favor. Never post on this site as NZ_Justice again. Create a new account and a new alias, and try again — but only with some semblance of maturity and professionalism.

lost cause

In reply to I repeat

So cyber spanking me is the semblance of maturity and professionalism with which you want me to create my new account with. did you read my reply. there was content in the body of it. Man.

how about a compromise

In reply to I repeat

the compromise is…

I just won’t create any more new threads.

It’s gonna happen anyway so it really isn’t a compromise.

And you can just watch me become number 1. 😉

Obsession

In reply to how about a compromise

Your obsession with being #1 is the main reason (I think, or at least I’d like to hope) that you are posting crap threads and replies. If you read every thread, sure, some of them are bad. But are they all posted by the same person?

This could be another part of starting over. Punishment as well as a new beginning. Take your lumps and quit this nonsense of being #1. Do you need to be “the best” (aka #1) at something so badly? Create your own forum and post away there then.

Here Here

In reply to Obsession

Who cares if you’re #1 or #101? It’s what you post that matters, not how much you post.

Reading the reply

In reply to Thank you for making my point and I meant no disrespect to HAL9000

I have no idea what you’re talking about – perhaps if you want someone to read a particular post, provide a link to it.

It’s all this post

In reply to Reading the reply

I can’t stress this enough. I’m not attacking anyone in TR. sorry I made refernce to the other links, but they have (in my oppinion anyway) nothing to do with this thread.

Nothing to do with this…

In reply to It’s all this post

…other than you begged people to read it.

That’s not fair

In reply to Nothing to do with this…

Anyone can clearly see that logic is not allowed in this thread,

Here you deal with Real Pros

In reply to It’s all this post

Something you have to understand is that here at T R you are dealing with Top Notch people. The very best.
These are Not, repeat Not amateurs. Most of them are incredibly adept and skilled and are in peak form for what they do. They are Pros in the true sense of the word, not just people who know technicalities, but people who also know how to live.
You speak of Mob Mentality and how we are ganging up on you and won’t let up etc etc.
Allow me to point out that there is a big difference between everybody just ganging up and brow beating someone and people going out and defending one another.
Here we stand by each other. Not because of you, you’re not that important.
We stand together and YES it bothers the heck out of us when one of us get’s insulted or abused in any was at all.
We stay back and watch and when we have had enough, we step in and defend our colleague.
This is NOT Gang mentality, it is Professional people resenting very deeply the childish games that you play and resent even more the fact that you are trying so hard to involve them into what must by definition be a useless and immature discussion.
As for your No.1 Spot, it obviously means a lot to you, another sign of immaturity.
It doesn’t mean all that much to us. Sure we’re happy when someone get’s it but they got it because of their contribution, not their ability to rabble rouse.
I close in saying that my colleagues have made some great suggestions to you.
By all mean, get a name change and try again, only this time, try it with respect , maturity and above all consideration for the other people’s feeling and who know where it may lead you.
Good luck, you’re going to need it.
Regards
Aaron

Thank Dick Cheney

In reply to Thank you for making my point and I meant no disrespect to HAL9000

You can thank Lee Atwater, KKKarl Rove and “Dick” Cheney for restoring “civility” to public discourse. The right wing only knows insults, and their echo chamber rationalizations of what they want to push as the truth. To quote “Dick”, they can all go fuck themselves.

We can also thank Dick Cheney…

In reply to Thank Dick Cheney

for his “involvement” with Haliburton, Unocal and all the juicy oil being sucked out of the Caspian see. I sure hope all those dead Iraqi people and dead U.S. soldiers were worth that fat paycheck, hmmm….

I think I’m getting a little too political for this TR forum, I think I’ll just leave it at that!

Wow!

In reply to Okay, NZ_Justice – Time for some Harsh_Justice

Now this is interesting! I don?t know who you are as I have been a bit pre-occupied to post to this most worthy forum. I love the people here. I see this forum as a group of intelligent people whom I can have a reasonable conversation with. Granted that I may disagree with the majority of them and tease them from time to time for being communists or worse (French) but I value their opinions and I enjoy reading what they write in response to my right wing fundamentalist sputum.

Take Neil for instance. I think he and I disagree on quit a bit but I look forward to reading his postings because he is witty, humorous and extremely intelligent.

I have not read any of your posts before this one but I will say this: Maxwell is one of the most patient, respectful and intelligent posters on this forum. I was shocked to read what he wrote about you. I would take his advice and try again.

Thanks ProtiusX

In reply to Wow!

I guess I was looking for that “POW” factor.

I must admit, however, that my patience is getting shorter and shorter with a lot of people and a lot of things.

Look out….

In reply to Thanks ProtiusX

… his “patience is getting shorter and shorter with a lot of people and a lot of things” and the “POW” factor, that’s seems like alot of hostility coming from you.

Anger Management is a class that all bully’s should take, and you should definitely look into it.

Some times people need a pow

In reply to Look out….

Maxwell may be many things but he is not a bully. He has always argued his points from logic and reason. In the time I have been reading his posts he has rarely lost his temper and when he has it has been justly deserved.

this is how I look at it…

In reply to Some times people need a pow

You seem to hold him in high regard and you may have good reason to do so but regardless of any reasons I have problems with anyone who talks the way he did when he reprimanded nz_justice for his previous posts, you don’t prove any point by lowering yourself to someone else’s standard and on top of that mention that you speak for everyone on this forum – I don’t like that at all, I may have even gone overboard in my responses to him but his replies back bordered on childish also which did nothing to prove his points to me.

Here are a few excerpts from his sermon on the soapbox and you tell me if this type of discussion sounds mature & professional:

1. “Let me be perfectly frank; you’re an immature dolt”
2. “you’re no more than litter on the information super highway”
3. “Your idiotic quest to post nothing but nonsense and drivel, only to achieve the number one ranking, is not only obvious, but a disgusting turn-off.”
4. “My guess is that you’re some 16 year old punk whose parents ignore you and you stay holed up in your room playing on your computer.”
5. “Do yourself a favor. Never post on this site as NZ_Justice again. Create a new account and a new alias, and try again”
6. “Now go away, kid, you bother not only me, but all of us.”

Seriously, I don’t need to be a fan of nz_justice or Max’s to know that making posts like this in an IT Forum is unnecessary & unwanted, especially the portion on talking on behalf of all of us – a little presumptuous to say the least.

Just my 0.02 cents cdn, feel free to agree or disagree. 😉

2 canadian cents!

In reply to this is how I look at it…

That’s like one tenth of a penny. How about like a Canadian dollar. The coin kind not the funny monopoly money kind.

We are human and sometimes become angry. The things he wrote aren’t nearly as bad as some things I have seen others write.

Now I can say the same thing for my opposition as well. Oz and I don’t see eye to eye on a great many things but he is also genuine and interesting to argue with. Neil is the same way. I wish I could say that for others.

ProtiusX, do you have something against Canadians?

In reply to this is how I look at it…

I pretty much have an idea of how much 0.02 cents cdn is worth, being canadian I actually have a clue. I include that blurb about 2 cents cdn at the bottom of my posts to indicate that my opinion is given freely. Your sarcastic reply would almost lead me to believe you have something against canadians, if so (and I’m hoping not) that’s really too bad, you should learn to be a nice neighbor. If you were just being a smarta$$, no worries, I can be one too from time to time.

“We are human and sometimes become angry. The things he wrote aren’t nearly as bad as some things I have seen others write.”

You are correct that we are human (most of us anyways), I’ve been with TR for a couple of years and I’ve read a few posts by now and I still feel that he pushed the envelope with his post and on top of that he finished it off by saying that he spoke for all of us, as I told him and I will tell you, know one speaks for me and he needs to be careful when he goes off on a wild rant that he doesn’t include the rest of the TR community as his lynching party. This is an IT forum, his post had no place here whatsoever and I won’t change my mind about that.

You also said “Now I can say the same thing for my opposition as well. Oz and I don’t see eye to eye on a great many things but he is also genuine and interesting to argue with.” – I’m glad you find Oz to be genuine & interesting because at least that’s one opinion we have in common, Just remember in your blurb about funny cdn money not being worth a tenth of whatever, OZ is canadian too and we both get paid in that “funny money”.

If you must know, the cdn dollar is not doing too shabby as of late, 1 cdn dollar is currently equal to 0.872759 USD. And if you must know, I work for a U.S. based company that has it’s canadian division located in Winnipeg. A strong cdn dollar hurts U.S. businesses that do business with partners across the border. One “tenth” as you put it is not even close to reality.

Stop defending Max, he’s a big boy, he can take care of himself without the need of a faithful sidekick to watch his back.

… just my 0.02 cents cdn, feel free to agree or disagree.

Sure

In reply to Thanks ProtiusX

YOu have the patience to put up with Bush, [i]poke[/i], and you have the patience to post irrelevant links to support your comments, whether they do so or not [i]poke[/i], and you have the patience of an itchy undertrained Marine, [i]poke[/i].

Max, I was actually on the Conservative side of this election (Canada actually had a political day!)much to the chagrin of many friends and associates who feel womb to tomb is the way for Canadians, which I’ve never agreed to even though I do support some of the socialist systems already in place.

But our bleeding heart lefties make your Kerry followers seem like the right wing. I was most surprised to find that most suburban areas of BC voted Conservative, over their normal NDP or Liberal choices. Only a minority government here, and a little too close to Bush for total support, but it sure is better than the knobs we had before.
The funny part is I had several people tell me that Conservs would increase military spending, whilst the left and center had already said they would increase military spending (quietly and just for the ears of the fringe voters). In fact our political parties are VERY closely aligned, good thing too, they will be watching each other very closely while pointing their fingers and trying to push the next election upon us.

I will concede that you’re right on one more issue, most voters have no idea what they are voting for, it’s just following the masses. I think it’s a really good thing we can’t make a global impression. Our politicians scare the bejezus out of me too!

So what the heck happened Oz?

In reply to Sure

Usually its the conservative West that blames Ontario for not voting conservative and keeping the Liberals in power. But this time the Conservatives lost 5 seats in BC and gained 16 seats in Ontario. (mind you still some Alberta guy on the call in shows, blaming Ontario again, must be a reflex).

Even the NDP realize that we need to build up our military – though the NDP would prefer we do nothing but peacekeeping.

Those nasty attacks ads just showed how desparate the Liberals were to cling to power – they honestly would say anything or do anything.

James

I don’t mind Harper as long as…

In reply to So what the heck happened Oz?

he doesn’t get any stupid ideas like sending Canadian troops to Iraq to help GWB finish a war he shouldn’t have started. Afghanistan was bad enough as it is. WMD my a$$! Oil’s more like it!

I think the election pretty much tells you that Canada has had pretty much enough of the bad taste that “Paul Martin’s” liberals have left in our mouths, time for us to sample a bad taste offering from the Conservatives. As much as I “harp” on Stephen Harper, he does have some good idea’s on improving law enforcement, reducing crimes and finance reforms. But you watch, his first move will be to crank out legislation either attempting to reverse existing gay marriage laws or wasting taxpayer money on a new definition of marriage (please don’t spend anymore tax money on defining marriage, I already have a wife & 2 kids so I have a bit of a clue). Alot of people may view the minority government (as opposed to the conservatives winning a majority) as a negative but I hope it will mean that the party’s will try to work together in achieving better things for Canada. (yes I know, it’s a pipe dream, and quite possibly a wacky tobaccy pipe at that).

Any opinions on the GST, do you think it’s possible to eliminate it – apparently it’s on his agenda. My question is, it seems that the GST is required in maintaining our economy as is, if you remove just to insert a new tax what’s the use?

cheers…. 😉

Why would we help the US acquire oil?

In reply to I don’t mind Harper as long as…

It wouldn’t make sense, they buy the majority of their oil from Canada.
As for the whacky tobaccy pipe dream, hey…it IS Canada afterall.

At least we can have a decriminalized whacky tobaccy pipe dream and not face life in prison.:)

What a headwrecker!

In reply to So what the heck happened Oz?

Yeah I ws blown away. Vancouver Island all voted for conservs, they are NDP junkies there, tree huggers and fishermem and seniors galore. The three major cities in Canada, Montreal, TO and Vancouver all voted Liberal though, I guess they are the people who actually sit inside and watch the TV BS though.

Islanders are never home, if they are home, they are fixing the fence, retying nets, sharpening saws and mountaineering.

I dunno, I think a change, even with a minority govt. to keep them on their toes was needed. As close to Bush as Harper is, I still think he’ll make some positive changes.

As for leftie military, yes they both cited spending a boatload on military, but I think it was just to lure in the fringes and they don’t really have any intent on increasing power.

Speak for yourself…

In reply to Okay, NZ_Justice – Time for some Harsh_Justice

Don’t ever make a post on behalf of “all of us”, you don’t speak for me and I doubt you speak for 50% of the people in this forum.

The original post that NZ_Justice threw out there didn’t contain any of the crass statements that you’ve included in your response.

“Immature Dolt”, “Idiotic quest”, etc. etc. etc.

Even if this person has in your opinion, responded to other posts with a lack of respect, you don’t gain any points by lowering yourself to his level (or lower) .

How about showing some of that “semblance of maturity and professionalism” you indicated in your response and act more professionally when you post a reply.

Opinions are one thing but you aren’t helping anyone when you post a reply like this. I read your response and shook my head and wondered why people are so rude today.

Guess what I’m speaking for myself in this post, not on behalf of all of us. But I have to wonder if I’m the only one who thought the same thing when reading your post and I’m pretty sure I’m not.

Clean it up, this is a techrepublic discussion forum, not a soap box for your next political campaign – that would go for both of you!

Glad you got on your soapbox as well

In reply to Speak for yourself…

But I was speaking only for myself. I suppose you could take my last sentence as being presumptious enough to speak for others, but it wasn’t really intended to do that. And if you read almost ALL of the other replies (in various discussions), you’ll discover that well OVER 50 percent of the people in this forum agree with me.

I’m sure you feel better for getting that off your chest, but you forgot to tell me why I should care what you think?

Moreover, I get the feeling that you skipped to the last page of the book and missed the first four hundred pages.

Don’t you….

In reply to Glad you got on your soapbox as well

have a kite to fly with your Uncle Thomas? If so, make sure you hold on to that kite string extra tight and let me know how that thunderstorm turns out.

Your last sentence was presumptious to say the least and that’s the part that got me to post a reply in the first place if you must know. Don’t ever use that tone of “post” (voice) and those words and say you speak for all of us, because you don’t. Just say you speak for yourself and you won’t bother half as many people.

My post wasn’t about making me feel better, it was about making sure you knew your place and your role, specifically maintaining your professionalism & maturity when entering into discussions and laying off the descriptions of other users.

This specific discussion isn’t that long (75 posts currently) and the points that each user has posted along with yourself don’t take that long to read.

Your friend ProtiusX apparently has some misguided trust in you, I read this user’s post and I wondered if we were still talking about the same person:
“… have not read any of your posts before this one but I will say this: Maxwell is one of the most patient, respectful and intelligent posters on this forum. I was shocked to read what he wrote about you. I would take his advice and try again.”

Hmmm… yah that sounds like good advice. Hopefully other TR members don’t meet you in real life, they might say something that you don’t like and then you’ll go on a rant about how idiotic they are and don’t show enough professionalism and should change their name, yeah, changing your name should fix everything. Great suggestion, I see that method of fixing things taking off like a rocket right now.

Maybe I should change my name too, will you like me then? You know what, it doesn’t matter what you think so I don’t think I’ll be changing my name anytime soon.

Changing your site alias to please someone else, geez, I thought I’d heard everything, this one tops the cake. I’m surprised your little rant on Justice and your suggestion to him to change his name so that he doesn’t bother you as much in the future isn’t against TR forum policy, it definitely should be.

You know what, you sound like big bully, except that really doesn’t work on the internet, maybe he can email you his lunch money – HA! This is hilarious. Who comes up with this changing your name stuff, you wouldn’t by chance be a member of the Bush administration would you?

– You’re also the first person that I know of that tries to make 50% sound like a great number – you sound more like a salesman than an “IT Executive”. Anything else you’d like to sell?

Sorry, dude. . . . .

In reply to Don’t you….

I don’t need you tell tell me “my place”. Take your kite and shove it.

Nice post…

In reply to Sorry, dude. . . . .

Did you learn that type of eloquence from your Executive IT/IS Management school or did you come up with that yourself.

– seems like I’m finally making my point clear to you, doesn’t feel nice to be bullied does it? No matter how you were trying to prove your point to this kid, your post did nothing to get your opinion across, all it did was show that you could lower yourself to someone else’s standard’s, if you’re mature & professional enough, you should know that this never works.

In the future, I hope you’ll keep your caca mouth clean in other discussions and tone down the bullying. Older, Younger, who cares about the age of the person involved, no one needs you to rant like that on them.

The only point you are making is this. . .

In reply to Nice post…

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http://tinyurl.com/6wbv

No go away, kid, you bother not only me, but all of us.

wow, you’re good…

In reply to Nice post…

“Go away kid”,
heck I wish I was young, I haven’t been that young in too many years to mention.
I am happily married and have 2 young children (kids as you call them) and have been working in this biz since the late 80’s.

That link to that site was very cute, mind you I wouldn’t know where to look for a link like that, since that kind of stuff is childish.

No worries, this will be my last post to you, replying to you appears to be a waste of energy and at my age I have to save that energy for playing with my own kids, not someone elses.

Cheers….. 😉

Family man

In reply to Nice post…

So, UncleRob, if your kids act like idiots, do you correct them, or do you let them become idiots?

If they’re out in public, and you’re not around, and they act like idiots, do you want someone else to correct them, or do you want them acting like idiots?

There are too many idiots and not enough non-idiots to correct them. Not to mention idiots making laws that protect idiots from being corrected. Or idiots trying to correct the non-idiots.

Don’t be an idiot.

Yes I’m a family man and darn proud of it!

In reply to Nice post…

Since you bring up a discussion and mention my kids, let’s get into this:

My kids are young, I have a girl & a boy, ages 4 & 2 respectively. They’re both beautiful children who get their looks from their beautiful mother. If you’re interested send me your email address and I’ll email you a pic of them – I’m that proud – they truly are beautiful. And at their young age they know perfectly well to say “please” & “thank you”, to be friendly, to smile, to thank god & jesus for what they have, to laugh & play and to be young, I don’t need them growing up any faster and becoming more mature yet, let them be little is what I always say. At their young age or any age for that matter, I would never call them idiots or refer to them as such. I can only hope & assume (heck they’re my kids, I can assume as much as I want) when they grow up, mature and become adults that they only improve upon their existing excellent nature.

Be that as it may, if my children ever acted in an unruly matter, and I wasn’t around for whatever reason to correct this behavior I would certainly want someone to “correct” them as you put.

However, correcting someone doesn’t & shouldn’t require insulting them, putting them down or making them feel small. That type of behavior only leads to the same behavior over & over again. People who are abused often repeat this cycle by abusing others, how that helps anyone I have no idea. If you can show me the connection between verbal abuse and improved response & maturity please do so because I can’t possibly fathom a congruent connection between the two. Still not convinced, email Dr.Phil, maybe he can set you straight on that theory.

If you read all the posts leading up this, you will see that I didn’t like how “Max” tore a strip off of NZ and then at the end of his rant made it sound like he was speaking for all of us, No Thank You, I speak for myself. I don’t need someone with a severe case of CACA mouth speaking on my behalf ever s’il vous plait! (if you please!)

Even if you don’t like NZ because of what he’s said in previous posts, you don’t win any points by lowering yourself to his level or lower and then beating up on him and telling how worthless, immature, young & stupid he is and then finish it off by telling him to change his alias and let us all know that this is on behalf of all of us. Please spare me this authoritarian fascist rabbit turd that you’re trying to feed everyone.

The feel of his posts make you believe that he is saying “My view is right and you are wrong and that’s that” – wow, you’re really open-minded, don’t stop now tell us how you really feel.

If the misc category is a place to hang out and get our fill of “water cooler talk”, I would not consider Max’s rant as content appropriate for a water cooler discussion. That’s just my opinion, feel free to disagree/agree.

But before you judge anyone, follow this simple rule of thumb and if you have a clear conscience then go ahead, I won’t ever stop you either way:

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”

BTW – I’m not an idiot and I don’t plan on pursuing that endeavor anytime soon. I hope you take your own advice and do the same.

Cheers… 😉

Interesting response

In reply to Nice post…

First, you’re the one who mentioned your kids (this may be a bit confusing, but since we’re at ‘maximum message level’ I’m having to post the reply to the previous level).

Second, what constitutes ‘verbal abuse’ is difficult to quantify objectively. Some people react badly to _any_ criticism, some respond positively to the harshest invective. Trying to raise all kids with the exact same methods often has unintended, and undesired, results. Given that, raising kids that can’t take any criticism (because they’ve never been criticized) is just as bad as raising kids that are ‘abused’.

Third, don’t confuse me with “Max”. We are two separate people. We probably agree on some things and disagree on others (though I’m usually right where we disagree 7;-]).

Fourth, for someone who doesn’t think that you should judge people, you’re very judgemental. But that often seems to be true of people who throw around the “first stone” quote.

By way of background, I also have a boy & girl, ages 20 & 18. They’re both polite to strangers, exceedingly bright, with a great sense of humor and their own quirks. So, been there, done that.

I wonder where this is going….

In reply to Nice post…

I’m reading your reply and I’m wondering where this is going but I’ll respond nonetheless to your post:

You wrote: “First, you’re the one who mentioned your kids (this may be a bit confusing, but since we’re at ‘maximum message level’ I’m having to post the reply to the previous level).”

In one of Max’s replies he alluded to the possibility that I was just another kid, of which I assured him that I’m adult, married with children – this is where the reference to kids came about. You reply the previous previous post asked me if I would want someone to correct my kids if they acted like idiots – I responded to that in my previous post so I have no need to repeat that here again.

You then wrote: “Second, what constitutes ‘verbal abuse’ is difficult to quantify objectively. Some people react badly to _any_ criticism, some respond positively to the harshest invective. Trying to raise all kids with the exact same methods often has unintended, and undesired, results. Given that, raising kids that can’t take any criticism (because they’ve never been criticized) is just as bad as raising kids that are ‘abused’.”

Verbal abuse is only difficult to quantify when you’re the person dishing it out and not receiving it, I’m sure if you were the person on the receiving end of Max’s “caca mouth”, you would find that it’s pretty easy to quantify but I guess that’s an opinion so you have yours and I have mine.

Next you wrote “Third, don’t confuse me with “Max”. We are two separate people. We probably agree on some things and disagree on others (though I’m usually right where we disagree 7;-]).”

– No worries, I wouldn’t confuse you or anyone else with Max, you haven’t released a torrent of hurtful verbage yet from what I’ve read so far so it’s pretty easy to tell you guys apart – you sound like a much calmer, open minded individual which would mean to me that you’re also quite intelligent.

Next you wrote “Fourth, for someone who doesn’t think that you should judge people, you’re very judgemental. But that often seems to be true of people who throw around the “first stone” quote.”

Yes that “first stone” quote does get thrown around very often, but you’ll notice I wasn’t judgemental, my replies to Max were based on the fact that he spewed forth nasties against another TR member and then said he did so on behalf of all of TR members, I didn’t agree with that then or now – that’s not judgemental, that’s just speaking for myself – I did nothing but make observations based on the posts that he provided. I never attacked him, I simply told him that his caca mouth has no place in this forum and he continued to rant on regardless. I don’t hate anyone, I however do not like it when people assume to speak on my behalf without asking first.

Lastly you wrote “By way of background, I also have a boy & girl, ages 20 & 18. They’re both polite to strangers, exceedingly bright, with a great sense of humor and their own quirks. So, been there, done that.”

I’m glad to hear you’re a parent as well, and although I would never refer to being a parent as “been there, done that” as it’s a little bit more involved than that, I am glad to hear that you’ve raised them to such high standards: the world always needs more polite, bright & funny people. I aspire to promoting & developing the same qualities in my own kids.

It would appear that Max himself could benefit from the same qualities, I’ll even assume that he has them, in my opinion he would do better if he made use of those qualities on more regular basis. Putting other people down doesn’t achieve anything other than hurt feelings – that’s something we can all do without.

Being professional doesn’t just start & end at the office, becoming a pro in your personal life often pays the types of dividends & rewards that you can’t get from your employer, paycheque or stock options.

Just my 0.02 cents cdn, feel free to agree or disagree.

Geez, Louise, UncleWrong

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UncleRob, you ARE judgemental and need some of that bully training yourself. Good grief, even if what Max said is wrong, you have made him out to be the biggest villain since Hitler. That IS judgemental. You can’t say what he might be like if you met him on the street just because of what he posted here. And, quite frankly, you have taken a lot more words (and I do mean a lot more) to say basically the same thing to him that he said to the original poster. You have been very nasty. Stop with the “ca-ca mouth” business.

Read all of your posts again and tell me that you are being professional or respectful. Honestly. Take a good look in the mirror, my friend. You’ve been very hostile.

And by the way, the earlier post about the Canadian money, IT WAS CLEARLY A JOKE. You know, funny; not to be taken seriously. Ha, ha. So don’t take it so seriously. It was funny.

You just don’t get it

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I tried to help, but you didn’t want to follow my advice. Your choice.

I told you that people are going to judge you by your actions. You continued with the same actions, and now that you have been judged you act surprised and want to play the victim?

I would bet you will be very hard pressed to find members that are under 25 on this board. They are working professional, most in this field for years.

When people join in as a productive member with something valid to say, there isn’t an issue. When they go off like a kid that their parents never told to sit down and shut up in a library, someone else is going to stand up and tell you to sit down and shut up.

This is not bullying or discriminating. This is deciding that you have chosen to be a poster that many here have no use for. Expect to have more flames come your way, provided people will even respond to you anymore.

underage has already gone past where I will even acknowledge him and is a complete waste of mine and everyone else heres time.

I see you deciding to go in that same direction. Sad. This is a good place, with good people. They are just not childish and have no tolerance for people that are.

If you decide you would like to be a part of TR after all, I think it is too late for that account. Do as MAX said and make a new account and start over. I don’t see that account being accepted now.

You have been judged, now you have no one to blame for the sentence but yourself. I tried. I failed. Good luck.

Man

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The thread isn’t amid at anyone here in the TR, it is genral.

I’m not looking for acceptance. And don’t want acceptance. I don’t care if a 100 of the top TR users hate this account. boo hoo. I value your advice and have taken it on (all that I have read anyway (I removed my silly tags)). You can sing professional all you want. Is it professional to hold a grudge against a techy you hate? Is it professional to call them kids or assume they are under the age of 16 or 16? Is it professional to exclude someone simlpy becasue they pissed you off? Is it professional not to read a reply simply to diss the guy righting the reply? Come on be professional, lead by example. and don’t be petty. If more flames gonna come my way, let them. I am professional, and I sencerley apoligse for treating the TR forum with disrespect. The account is not changing. Deal with it positively.

You still don’t understand, because you don’t listen

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You still don’t understand, because you don’t listen.

I never said you pissed me off. I never posted anything to indicate that I hate you.

I have tried repeatedly to show you what is acceptable behavior on a TECH board, which is very different from a chat board.

Go back to the link I gave you about “what new members should know”. In that discussion is a link to ESR’s web site where he talks about how to ask for help on a tech/hacker site, and also what not to do. (if you don’t know ESR, google it. anyone in tech should know it or learn it)

Professional is me deciding how to spend my time. You have run around like a little kid and have gotten on the nerves of the grown ups that are trying to talk, just like you used to do at Christmas when the family got together.

I decide who I respect and who I don’t. I don’t have time for people I don’t respect and you have not done what it takes to earn any respect dispite my efforts to help you fit in. You must admit that I have given you more chances than many others here. For many in this field it is a one strike and your out.

If you don’t want to “fit in”, that is your choice. Don’t complain about your choices though.

Deal with it positively? I will not be replying to NZ_Justice again and you know why. I would say that account is beyond salvation in most of the members eyes, or at least the majority of the ones that I value highly.

jd

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Why are you even giving this character any bit of attention that he does not deserve? He is just here to create a fuss. If everyone ignores characters like this, they won’t remain a nuisance for long. The only thing that keeps a troublemaker going is attention.

I agree

In reply to jd

.
See my message to jd.

well

In reply to jd

i didn’t see him as a lost couse yet and was just giving up on him.

the other boy is just a punk that I wrote off a few the other day.

I am just more understanding and tried to convert him rather than cast him away and turn him into a hardcore loser like underage is.

Mark

In reply to jd

I dunno. You don’t get an inordinate amount of attention, yet you’re still around. 🙂

Mae

In reply to Mark

😡

Hey, jd

In reply to You still don’t understand, because you don’t listen

I might read a few more of his messages, only to see if he decides to grow up a bit. If so, I’ll continue to read them, and I might even reply. But if not, I won’t even waste my time reading any more of them. Some discussions I just choose to take a pass on participating, either reading or replying, and any more of his will probably fall into that category.

Which brings me to a possible upgrade idea for TR. What about an ignore function? What if, for example, NZ_Justice posts his messages, but whoever has him listed as an “ignore member”, wouldn’t even see the messages? Is that even possible in this type of format?

“Ignore” option

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An “ignore” option would be nice to have. I haven’t participated in many other online discussion forums but in the ones I have, there is no “ignore” feature. It is up to each individual to use their own will power to ignore idiots.

I have read very few of NZ_justice’s or Underage Guy’s posts. I read a few of them when they first came in to TR but quickly realized there’s nothing there worthy of my time, much less worthy of my reply.

oh, a squelch button!

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If you have the ability to do it in on-line games, why not in a TECH web site? Who better to know how to do it?

I am done with both accounts, justice and underage.

I think smorty has taken the first step

In reply to Hey, jd

I noticed he has added underage as a contact … Could that be for the purpose of keeping an eye on him ??

]:)

rare to see people get booted

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but I think underage is going to find himself in that position.

They have my vote as he is just a punk with nothing to add to anything, not even comic relief.

As I said in another post, I see WHY he got kicked out of his last board.

Move along people, nothing to see here….

the really funny thing

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jdclyde…now…THAT was funny…

You address NZ_Justice as though you are the ultimate authority on what is accepted by everyone here and acceptable behaviour here .

Of course, NZ_Justice is probably just you or Max playing games.

NZ_Justice…keep your name…speak your mind…otherwise, they win.

Hello, thought police…come in thought police… :^O

Out of line!

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You have once again offended me! I will be having the feds at your door before you can say “Barbra Streisand”!

If you had done your research (I am used to this) you would see just WHAT I was refering to and would have decided for yourself to ignore him and his posts.

My posts never attacked him personally other than question his age and maturity. I only pointed out to him things that would and wouldn’t be accepted and that his own actions would determine if he would be accepted or not.

If you DO bother to follow the past exploits of Mr Justice, you would see and understand. Or you can come in the middle of a converstation and start complaining about something you don’t understand.

You will ALSO see that I was a lot more patient than most were with our young new member. Guess none of that matters.

I know the ONLY reason you have chosen to post here at this time is because of your little love/hate thing you have going with MAX. Grow up, kiss and make up, and get over it! 😀

Oh, and it isn’t THOUGHT that gets policed. It is actions. You DO get judged by your actions. That is how the world works and you know it. And before you say that YOU don’t judge, all I have to say is “GWB”. You have judged, I have judged. So before you start off on free speech and such, all I have said here was NOT to deny anyone their free speech, but that other people will CHOSE to NOT read what you have to say if you don’t have anything worth hearing to say. (think of it as changing the channel!)

So, you are wrong and uninformed. I expect your apology any time now. 😀

Ok Newbie to Newbie

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I am posting this in the spirit of friendship.

I have been here as long as you have. I have read the same threads and post that you have. I have been in arguement with members. I have not been attacked. I don’t think I have been ignored.

I have started silly and childish threads, I have not been attacked or ignored.

I am sorry but I do not see the Discrimination or Harassment. As for the “ficheous crusade to cleanse the ethnic minorities”, I don’t see it. I do not see where they would even know who is an ethnic miniority. How do they know I am Black, White, Indian, Jewish, Christian, Male, Female, etc?

You should probably ask yourself, What is the diffrence between you and me. I am not saying be like me, just compare your behavior with mine and decide what is diffrent.

Don’t say your sorry, SHOW that you are sorry by modifying your actions.

I have modified my actions.

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It is good that you do not see the Discrimination or Harassment (there is none). Again it’s like you people only read forums from the TR. Believe it or not, they are every where. this site below has a forum
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Q_20814543.html check it out.

You guys have really frustrated me by taking this personally.

People get flamed in other forums/newgroups. not just here (all though that does not happen here so I have been told).

The forum is not about me. I know that it’s hard for the regulars to understand, maybe it’s because I came from a country of sheep shaggers and should be Discrimination and Harassed against anyway.

Please let every one realise that this forum is not about me.

Tips

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Don’t post unsuabstantiated opinions, especially on technical issues.
Remember what you are reading may not be what others are replying. Sometimes your own perceptions colour the replies. It’s natuaral to put a ‘face’ on other members and an emotional background. I’ve seen insults when they weren’t there, and unintentionally insulted people. I’ve had some right goes with Max for instance, the only difference between you and I though, is he hasn’t as yet deemed it a waste of time replying.
It’s says something though that I only read this thread, because other members who I have some respect for posted on it.

You can post what I think is total bollocks, you can call me names, you can chip in when I’m being ‘picked’ on for my views. In return, I’ll tell you you are talking bollocks, call you names in return and put in my 2 pennies in, whenever I feel like it.
If you are going to give it, you’ve got to take it, if you can’t take it, f’ing stop giving it.

PS. still waiting for your response on your the ms breaking into open source thread, while in my opinion wrong was at least capable of becoming informative.

Genral Thread! not amid at any one!

In reply to Tips

seriously I don’t have a problem being flamed or ignored. I can take it. please give as much as you can, ignoring, flaming whatever.

Flaming not what we are about

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Contributions are what we want. The old guard don’t need any tips on how to set people on fire. Whenyou think we are wrong tell us, but tell us why and how and where and what and when. You never know at least some of us might agree with you.
Call me a commie and you’ll get several people on side. I’ll even agree with you compared to some I’m a ded in the wool marxist tree hugging nutball.

now Tony

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I wouldn’t say you were ded.

Unless the installed wifi in your grave and your posting from there? :O

Sure would make it hard to do your morning ritual of hugging all the trees on the way into work! 😀

Hmmmm

In reply to Flaming not what we are about

Were you ded before you went into the wool, or did going into the wool make you ded? Should the FDA be placing warnings on all wool products stating that there is a possibility that you will become ded?

Come on, guys and gals

In reply to Flaming not what we are about

don’t take the pee out of the man’s typo. We can do better than this.

:p

Neil

In reply to Come on, guys and gals

BUGGER OFF!

😀
[i]
Of course, I mean that in the best way possible! ;\

The only typos we make fun of are the funny ones!

People who live in glass houses…

In reply to Neil

I’ll be watching. Oh, yes. Indeedy. Mmmm Hmmm. :p

Now reit, Tony were nowt but typin’ dialect, tha knows. 😀

But there is a difference

In reply to People who live in glass houses…

between someone doing a typo that turns out funnier than the orignial post, and a dumbass like me that just can’t spell. B-) Nothing funny about laughing at the mentally challenged, so bugger off! 😀

[i]
(bloody twit!)
]:)

Ded

In reply to Flaming not what we are about

???**&&%%ing hell.
Going to go back and edit my original post so everyone thinks they are insane now.

Tip #5, don’t do the above you’re guaranteed to get burnt up if you do.

So that

In reply to Genral Thread! not amid at any one!

you can keep posting useless answers and jump to number #1, I suppose

]:)

What do you want me to give? Ignoring and flaming what?

In reply to Genral Thread! not amid at any one!

It?s a good thing I?m not an English major as I would be forced to point out that you wrote ?amid? when I think you meant to write ?aimed?.
Even though I am not an English major I am having a difficult time putting your sentence fragments together. Perhaps you can elaborate just a bit so I can understand what you?re attempting to say. Make sure not to use complete sentences as I would no doubt be able to understand you too well and that ruin everything.

this discussion

In reply to What do you want me to give? Ignoring and flaming what?

was not about spelling, but behavior.

If you want to pick on language…

In reply to What do you want me to give? Ignoring and flaming what?

At least use proper language yourself.

“Make sure not to use complete sentences as I would no doubt be able to understand you too well and that ruin everything.”

I think there are several commas missing, as well as at least one word. (“…and that *WOULD* ruin everything”)

Touchet

In reply to If you want to pick on language…

Great! Now you’ve made me use French!

And, not even correct spelling

In reply to Touchet

there either. tou?ch? :^O
Just teasing ProtiusX.

There you go again..

In reply to And, not even correct spelling

softening up your post with the ‘just teasing’ part. You should have just gone ahead and apologized…

Well if we are picking on spelling

In reply to And, not even correct spelling

It’s actually touche’, without the break used in the dictionary definition for pronounciation.

Touche’ (sorry, no french keyboard/accent on this box), meaning ‘touched'(as referred to in fencing of course).

Just teasing, OG 🙂

naw Oz

In reply to And, not even correct spelling

you would be a huge target if we were picking on spelling and typos. ]:)

touchet, touch?, tou?h?, tou’ch? leading

In reply to And, not even correct spelling

to: toute ch?rie.

iiiiiewwwww, or whatever is this becoming to. ]:)

Rob

@life is too short to not enjoy it 😡

Sorry, Mae…

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:), I wouldn’t apologize for just kidding and it wasn’t a case for using the phrase I’m Sorry in order to be facetious (such as the title for this post). I just wanted to make sure no one misunderstood the vein I was using.

Old Guy, STOP aplogizing!!!!

In reply to And, not even correct spelling

[i]”I’m sorry in order to be facetious…”[/i]

AARGH!!!! X-(

M_a_r_k, I’m not

In reply to And, not even correct spelling

apologizing. Hence the word facetious in relationship to the phrases I’m sorry, or Sorry, Mae. It is not an apology. I was being FACETIOUS!!!!!! 🙂

Oh nevermind…

Information, I need information

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I’ve been in the background here for quite a while and have really been entertained, abused
and amused at all that goes on. Typos, mis-
statements and outright hostility seem to be
the mainstay for many out there who have nothing better to do. I gather information from close
to 50 different forums and boards that I have
garnered the past 5 years. I have gained a
worlds worth of info and ideas from these
interactive boards and have to admit that I’ve
gotten a lot of good ideas and more that
enough insight. Just like the world, filled
with the full range of people from the very
worst to the very best, and all points inbetween.
I take all with a grain of salt, as this has been as much an eye-opener as a tour in country
during Viet-Nam. Will we ever get past this??
Doubtful, as when we reign in one bad apple
another will take its place. As a field tech
that started 30 years ago, I’ve learned not to
form any opinions prior to collecting all the
information that would allow me to make any
decision. Opinion clashes are normal and do have
the advantage of revealing someones true
feelings. However, the mistaken impression
by some who believe they can hide behind a made
up user name is false. We know who you are, and
at this point in time, as with all who want to
disrupt the status quo, we shall tolerate any
and all hate and discontent you wish to
instigate, pass on or embelish, for we know
YOU WILL GET YOURS…..

I have paid the price.

In reply to Information, I need information

Thank you for your good reply, very insightful, very impressive, may be if my typing was viewed with indifference I would get less negative feed back, Your wisdom has opened my eyes and I will be more careful with what I type in the future.

#1 ??

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I assume you’re trying to be #1 on here. I guess the world will throw the largest party when that momentous day occurs. Please hurry and do so – if it means you’ll move on to your next great feat, like becoming a movie expert at imdb.com.

I normally don’t say much about people in these forums, as we are all entitled to our opinions, beliefs, and ignorance – that’s what these forums are for, but … this is techrepublic.com, not iamawhiner.com – please post in the theme of the website, or not at all.

Now, if you can’t understand any of that I’ll be more than happy to run all this text through my illiterate filter and re-post it.

cool

In reply to #1 ??

Please do that “run all this text through my illiterate filter and re-post it.” thing. I have stopped posting Miscellaneous because I have been getting a lot of whines about posting Miscellaneous threads, i must of misinterpreted what Miscellaneous meant. And thanks for whining to me about my whining, always makes a day brighter to know I’m not the only whiner.

Yeh, yeh …

In reply to cool

whatever dick-wad. Go away.

BECAUSE

In reply to bullying and discrimination and harassment in forums

that how life goes. the weaklings get to eat in the lavatore and the bullies get to eat their lunch.

i know you people are very much familiar with that scene. 😀

Well Said my friend

In reply to bullying and discrimination and harassment in forums

Most peeps like that are just looking for something to bitch about ..because there life sucks so bad…they need to try and bring it on someone else for there bad english or wehat ever…Damn english majors

you

In reply to Well Said my friend

are good in ENGLISH! gimme a break! hahaha!

thanks for the laugh, einstein!

No, not well said.

In reply to Well Said my friend

If you would do more than read the initial post before posting your reply you would see no one is giving anyone a hard time here based on their english.

Content, or LACK of content is what this is about. Read the postings of Justice and Underage and then decide if they are being unfairly bitched at.

You wouldn’t be the type of poster to make a quick decision on something without getting any background information, would you? Would hate to bitch at you for being uninformed! 😀

sorry JD but this is not what thread is about.

In reply to No, not well said.

let that thread go. I had fun on it, and I’ll look back on it now and then, but let that thread go.

General Discussion! This Thread and I would like to repeat again is about General Discussion. I don’t care that I got a hard time. please go to ww.dictioanry.com and look at what general means then look at what Discussion means and take the definitions literally, and try to understand. I created this thread as a General Discussion. Yes it is inspired by that other thread (but let that one go).

Here’s what I think

In reply to Well Said my friend

I think wbarrett@… and NZ_Justice are one in the same person.

Well, this is what I think

In reply to Here’s what I think

I think your giving Justice way more credit than he is worth, to assume he made two accounts, each over a month ago just so he could respond to himself like that.

That is why the chicken spawn was spamming his own discussions over and over.

You must admit it’s a great idea, though

In reply to Well, this is what I think

I’ve just laid down a couple of dozen “sleeper” accounts that I can use in a month or two for all sorts of uses; obviously, make me look good (well, even better), hound you off TR, run a huge thread on the overwhelming merits of cricket when compared to baseball – the possibilities are endless.

Oh! The future belongs to ME!

]:)

I only have one account

In reply to You must admit it’s a great idea, though

deal with it.

regards

chicken spawn

You’re picking on me again

In reply to I only have one account

I never said you had more than one account. I never christened you chicken spawn – I don’t even understand what it means. There – it’s dealt with.

thanks and sorry.

In reply to You’re picking on me again

With text it is hard for me to convey tone and manner, as you can probably appreciate, I wasn’t really picking on you, but it can see that it can be interpreted that way. JD christened me with chicken spawn it’s an alternative name for egg (witch I christened my self) read (or not) the “you are funnier than JD” thread where I try to explain all this. I would use more emotion icons but I can’t seem to find the link JD gave me.

you might not understand this next part (at least I don’t), but anyway.

sorry, I have huge nav problems on this site, I said what now? that was I picking on you? If I didn’t cover anything in this reply please let me know (or not).

you just laid down?

In reply to You must admit it’s a great idea, though

if it is sleeper accounts that you have resorted to “laying” then it sounds like you need to get a womans tlc more than I do!

Are they inflatable? :O

Run of your USB port? :O

If you smell burning rubber, GET OFF!

You bloody twit! 😀

You? Hound me? I will take do the same to you as I did to your whale you had! Fish food! B-)

My whale?

In reply to you just laid down?

Mmmmmmmm. Sushi!

“Laid down” as we English “lay down” wine for keeping. D’oh! The ignorance of these colonial sorts.

it was in the papers today

In reply to My whale?

about the whale that went up by london but didn’t make it back out. oh yeah, forgot mr “I am getting double time to fix my own phuckups” probably hadn’t heard about it?

wine for keeping? What sort of “rot” is this? Wine is for DRINKING! 😀

Blooming idiot! ;\

Actually, JD…

In reply to My whale?

Mr Phuckup – and I acknowledge the name – watched it go past the office window on its transporter. It looked pretty dead to me already and I was only about thirty yards away. Didn’t have the camera with me, though. I personally believe that they’ve shipped it down river, cut it up and it’s already on its way to Japan as sushi! Autopsy? Yeah…pass the wasabi!

Laying down…

Why I’m lecturing a man who obviously considers runbbing alcohol as a fine pre-dinner aperitif, I don’t know, but I’ll try. As the only wine that seems to be made in the US is Chardonnay which can be drunk within fifteen seconds of manufacture, I appreciate that the knowledge of the necessary storage of fine red wines for years – even decades for the finest – is outside of the limits of your experience, but that’s what we do over here. [b]That[/b] is what “laying down” means.

btw, I’m feeling a bit of a sh:t over the double-time, but I can live with myself.

Neil :p

Laying down

In reply to My whale?

Now does that come in the cardboard box with the plastic liner? :O Mmmmmm! 😀

Aging? Well you bloody twit! Why didn’t you just SAY so? Oh yeah, OLD people don’t like to talk like that! 😀

We know all about aging! They do that for Whiskey in the barrels to give it that “smooth” taste!

As for wine, “but I don’t WANNNA clean my room ma! Why does he get to stay up when I don’t?”

See, I know ALL about “wine”! :^O

sorry what?

In reply to you just laid down?

me not to up wit da queens englend, WTF are talking about. Please pretend that there is a confused emotion icon here in stead of the text. 🙂

well

In reply to sorry what?

?:|

Belive it or not, “English” doesn’t originate from North America. :O

There were crazy Brits speaking “English” in a place some know as “England” (see a trend here?), although from there the local cultures “modify” the dialect.

Example is EVERY Canuk running around saying “ah?” all the time! [i](I crack myself up!)[/i]
Another example is the Ausies with “The dingo ate my baby”.

Queens English is the UNDERSTANDABLE version that is used in the UK.

And for a more detailed OFFICIAL explanation, with less smarta$$ remarks, remember, “Google is your friend”.

Oy, jd!

In reply to sorry what?

what’s with this Crazy Brits thing?

Is this another of your “every British woman looks like Camilla” remarks?

We’re not Crazy. Eccentric, certainly, but not crazy.

(c’mon Neil, let’s get ‘im!)

😀

GG

😡

gg, I wouldn’t

In reply to sorry what?

worry about it.. after all his can’t even spell EH correctly just shows how little he knows.

Not my place to say anything …

In reply to sorry what?

I will just sit back and enjoy … 😀

Hey Neil … hurry up … :p

]:)

GG and Jaqui

In reply to sorry what?

First GG my love, I would NEVER disparage your beauty! did I or did I NOT start a whole discussion in praise of your Babism? ;\

Crazy? Like a FOX! 😀

Jaqui, you are completely correct. I can’t “spey EH correctly” as I can’t “spey” EH at all? :O

Bring it! :^O

for reference, jd…..

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just a little taste of Britishness for you…..

http://www.zyworld.com/albionmagazineonline/index.html

Now, I’ve just had a thought…..I think I should ask Smorty for an emoticon with a union jack jumper…..as well as the angel one, a squish one, an ignore one, hey!

There’s an idea for a site ideas thread!

M’off….!

😡

GG

JD, as for good Aussie phrases

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i prefer “get a big black hairy dog up ya”. Maybe NZ_justice should do this although he might want to swap the dog for a sheep

w o w

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big….black….hairy….dog….[b]up[/b]….ya?

I don’t really know where to even START with that one! :O

oh my…..

But we’ll all recognize them as you

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by your crazy avatar. Sheesh! How dumb do you think we are? 😀

Oh my!

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Cricket vs baseball….the horror of talking about Cricket is more than I can stand. Please, NOOOOOOO!!! Neal is the best!! <>

I watched several hours of cricket and came away shaking my head. WHAT A BORING GAME! Baseball is boring. Golf is boring. Cricket is really, really boring. Does a cricket game EVER end? At least in baseball, there are some exciting plays or someone might get mad at the pitcher and charge the mound. Is there anything exciting about cricket??? Are there any rules besides run back and forth between the sticks? I’ll take hockey any day!! Austrailian Rules Football is lots of fun! Premiership Football(Soccer) is exciting (man can those guys play). But, Cricket?!?! <>

Baseball

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That’s the one US game that has always puzzled me. American Football and Basketball are usually high-scoring, low-brow and it seems to be the thought of nil-nil draws that stops soccer from being widely understood and thereby appreciated. Baseball, however, is a low-scoring game and bucks all the trends.

Well, I don’t care enough to get excited, but why is it popular?

Neil 😀

p.s. Cricket is complicated. Like all such sports, if you don’t understand the nuances, you aren’t going to enjoy it very much.

Baseball – Gotta love it

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I think that unless you’ve played it competitively, which most American kids do at one point in their youths, it can be difficult to appreciate. It’s all about knowing your opponent and knowing what should be done in different circumstances.

Does the batter like the inside or outside of the plate? How’s the right fielder’s arm? Is this pitcher quick enough to get to the 3rd base line to field the bunt? There really are dozens of questions surrounding each pitch. Couple that with it being played on warm summer nights with hot dogs and beer, and it’s a hell of a nice way to pass a few hours.

Aw man, I shoulda been been center fielder for the Red Sox. That woulda been me out there spittin’ and scratchin’ my privates in front of 33,000 adoring fans… If only I have could hit the curve ball….

Only about a month until spring training starts!!!!

DMambo, We typed at the same time

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LOL Great minds love baseball. 🙂

Baseball and Mambo

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DMambo, whaddaya waitin for??? I can hear the song playing now … “Put me in Coach. I’m ready to play. Today.” Thank goodness no one can hear me singing. Get your bat and your uniform on and play!! Do you play in an adult league? Maybe you should coach a kids team?

Cricket

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Don’t mind a game of backyard cricket but I cant seem to watch it on TV.

Yeah but faradhi

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I’ll bet you’re a Cubs fan.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

DL05, I did coach

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but then my son quit playing after 4th grade, so now I coach my daughters soccer team.

Actually, I’m not a very good coach. I let the kids fool around too much. I hate to yell at ’em. A good coach needs to keep them focused more than I can.

DMambo

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Guilty as charged. I am a long suffering cubs fan.

Baseball is not boring

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I have found that those who say baseball is boring does not really know the game.

They do not understand why you pitch some low and inside (to keep Bonds from getting his arms extended) and others high outside (Because Sosa can’t layoff of them). They do not know why the corners are playing in when there is no outs an a man on first down 1 or tied in the ninth.

Baseball is a game of strategy (or stra-tee-ger-rey as our president says). It is a game of anticipation. It is a game that has great one-on-one match ups, yet you depend on the team for the win. True it is low scoring but some of the best games I have seen are 1 to 2 games.

Then there are those classic moments like the Kirk Gibson homer during game one of the 88 world series. The man limped to the plate. I remember the announcers saying that anything less than a homer and he would be the last out. With a 3-2 count he jack a home run to win it. Or the Effort that Kirk Shilling gave in the 2004 world series. Where he pitches game two on one ankle. Man thats good stuff. And those are some of the ones I remember.

All in all, I think I will take a week at wrigley over a month anywhere else. Baseball is life.

it is so boring

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but then, there is not a single sport that I don’t say is boring.. stemming from a complete lack of interest in the subject.

translation:

You couldn’t pay me enough to watch a game or care which team lost

Sorry Faradhi

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Have to agree with Jaqui here. I may watch some of the World Series key game(s), but baseball is worse that 12 straight hours of Polka.

jellimonsta, no need to apoligize

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We are all wrong sometimes. It was bound to happen to you eventually. 😉

Baseball

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Hot Dogs, fried Onions, fresh cut grass, Saddle Soap (Dubbin), hot summer evenings it is everything America USED to be about. A wonderful time with wonderful people.

As it has been said, those who find baseball boring are generally those who don’t fully understand the game, it’s nuances and the strategy of waiting. Timing is an imperative part of baseball. For someone who really understands the game, that long wait while the pitcher is looking to first or third, shaking off the catcher’s calls and stepping off the mound is the most intense part of the game. Swinging the bat and running is the boring part most of the time, it’s the anticipation of where to pitch, where to stand, where to swing, when to run etc. that really builds the heat in baseball.

I understand, it’s not everyone’s game, but it is FAR from boring. It is one of the most intense and thought provoking games played today.

Sure football is faster, hockey is faster, but the anticipation just isn’t there, there’s no time to really THINK about the game, during the game.

Think of chess, sure you could just race through your move and have your opponent do the same, it isn’t the same game then though. Chess when you wait, keep your opponent waiting and wondering how his moves will be effected by your own is the best part.

Chess isnt normally exciting to watch, but a well played game is VERY exciting to play or watch (if you REALLY understand it).

NEHOW, baseball to me is anything BUT boring, it is one of the most intense and thought provoking professional sports I can think of (and I don’t really go for pro sports anymore, they are a complete waste of life most of the time).

Now BASKETBALL!!! There’s a sleeper! They could just play the last 4 minutes of the game and skip the rest, it’s always just back and forth, back and forth until the clock winds down, THEN the game begins, not the other hour of pumpkin slapping and showboating for the cameras and merchandisers.

Minor Leagues

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Oz mentioned all the things that “America used to be about”. Take in a minor league game sometime. Those things are still there. We have a developmental league team (even a notch below A-ball) not too far away, and it’s cool to go see. Little kids in awe getting autographs from players in awe of having kids want their autographs, hearing the coaches talk to the baserunners, occasional dazzling plays, more common BONEHEAD plays. And you can afford it!

It’s great to sit there and think that there are times when I know more about the game than the professional players. Of course they’re 18 or 19 don’t have the advantage of 35 years of sitting on their duffs watching the big leaguers and listening to a former player break down every play.

(Jerry Remy is the absolute best color commentator in baseball!)

Re: Minor Leagues

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You’re right about the minor leagues. I’m not much of a baseball fan but I really enjoy going to one of the minor league games. Besides who do you think grows the big leaguers?

Go Memphis Redbirds!!!

Redbirds have only one flaw…

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They are a Cardinals affiliate. Being a Cubs fan, I almost feel like a traitor rooting for them. But I only root for them when they are not playing Iowa.

But I agree with DM. The minor leagues are fun. I go as often as I can. We are luck in this area because the Redbirds play in Autozone Park. Autozone Park is one of the nicest parks in baseball. I have been to Major League parks that are not as nice.

Like I said I’m not

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a real big bsseball fan so I don’t have any teams I really root for. However, Memphis did a really great job on the AutoZone Park (and as you know Faradhi, Memphis doesn’t have a whole of good said about them so I try to find the good things to say when I can). My wife and I really enjoy going there every so often.

Nothing like Barbecue Nachos…..

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on a summer night at Autozone park.

You go boy!

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I agree! Darn English majors! What do they know? I mean, honestly! Do they even know what a ?peep? is? I think not. They think they can look down their noses at us just because they can write complete sentences. I prefer run on sentences or sentence fragments. They convey so much more meaning.

Please don’t slam people for expressing their opinions

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General Discussion! This Thread and I would like to repeat again is about General Discussion. I don’t care that I got a hard time. please go to ww.dictioanry.com and look at what general means then look at what Discussion means and take the definitions literally, and try to understand. I created this thread as a General Discussion. Yes it was inspired by that other thread (but let that one go). New thread for General Discussion!

Chicken spawn or NZ_justice or whatever you call your sad little persona…

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The Klingon from Uranus, perhaps???

It must be wonderfull going through life knowing you will never have haemorrhoids, because you are such a perfect butthole.

http://tinyurl.com/6wbv

[b]Now phuckoff and go play with the other little snotnose kiddies!!!

Dawg[/b] ]:)

man

In reply to Chicken spawn or NZ_justice or whatever you call your sad little persona…

you have some issues dude. relax, take a five minute break, go and interact with people in the real world (out side of your house or enclosed work area). Say Hi to the person across the cubical from you. Maybe try a dating service if your not having any luck with the other sex, if that’s not the case buy your significant other flowers and make her day. Play with your kids, the more contact they have with there parents the better they will turn out (assuming there parents are outstanding model citizens in the society in which they they live in). help an old lady across the street. join a scouting troop as a leader, so that you can be a positive role model to young men. and please chill out. Your life is wasted being angry with me. I like JD’s ignore option, less confrontational and nobody gets hurt. If you still can’t relax or don’t have kids to spend time with, Get stoned and watch teletubbies, but do it legally, like take a trip to Amsterdam and get stoned there and watch teletubbies in dutch.

Alas, you prove our point for us

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Had you checked back on a few threads before going for the “Most Annoying Poster” title, you would have been able to pick up some information on the Dawg. Information that most of the rest of us know and take into consideration.

If you truly were aware of the hard life that this man has had and the adversities he has bravely fought and overcome and the mental health problems that will dog him to the grave, you would not have posted the way you have. You could do irreparable damage to his fragile psyche.

I appreciate that he can be abrasive but that is simply an external brave front to ward off the deep wounds that society can make in such a vulnerable mental state.

We, the regular users, indulge him. Poor as he is, he can rarely afford to get out of his humble home and posting on TR is one of his few pleasures.

Be nicer to him.

Please.

neil?

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or will that be [b]kneel[/b]? :O

:^O

Just thought I’d put him straight

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I’m in a bit of a strange mood today…

Wonder if Dawg will appreciate it – or even read it! 😀

With apologies to Shakespeare,”Alas poor Neil, we knew him well!!!”

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God(for the dyslexic amongst us) will get you for that one.:^O I am in the process of learning many new and interesting oriental tortures here but for the nonce your duck is going to become well and truly muddied in an inappropriate fashion. Wait and see where the attacks are going to originate from. You really shoudn’t have stood GG up. Let’s just say, it is now time for you to pay for your serious lack of the social proprieties. 😉 X-(
Cliches are what they are because they are true. Let us sleeping ones lie. ]:)
And yes, now you know; I did read it!!!

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:) :^O

And he’s old

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Neil, you forgot to mention that Dawg is old, like really old. He’s so old that Methuselah (sp?) calls him Mr. Dawg. His advanced age also contributes to his lack of self-esteem.

This from the guy who sits in dark theatres and does…………..

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truly disgusting things with his tub of hot buttered popcorn??? Have you no shame Mambo??? Stargazer and GG will be bringing you to task for that one. Oh look, I can almost see the beginnings of that red glow from here.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

LOL

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I always had fun calling him father time. Or maybe even father time’s father.

Poor old dawg, you gotta pity them old and grey, three legged, mangy ones. 😉

Sorry, Dawg

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But I was just letting NZJ know just how unfair he’s been to you. A poor old chap who hasn’t got two yachts to rub together – or have you? – needs all the sympathy that he can get.

Bloody joke’s ruined, now.

Didn’t you all come steaming in? JD first and then the rest of you! I was gonna milk it until I’d got NZJ sobbing at the cruelty of his actions. No chance of that, now.

I’ll get you all for ruining my fun.

:p

At least…

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I (and I assume others) got a good laugh out of it. 😀

I know I got a laugh out of it. You have to admire Neil’s ability to…….

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stir things up. I actually enjoy him when he is in this mode. It makes for a lot of fun and keeps you on your toes. If we want to keep Neil on [b]his[/b] toes we’ll have to raise the urinals up by a foot or so. Every now and then, you can catch Neil off guard when the conversation turns to sex and gets a bit raunchy like when Stargazerr, GG and I were dicussing the possibilities of shooting a porn flic 😉 :8} and he really gets to sputtering when we remind him of making a date in Brighton with GG and then standing her up. BTW what was the real reason you didn’t show up Neil??? Would a little blue pill have helped the cause or wouldn’t your wife let you out of the house??? :^O ROTFLMAO

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

repeat, repeat

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Looks like y’re repeating yourself. Generally spoken, in discussions, that is a good thing to do if you want to convince someone to your point of view, either because they are not smart enough to understand what y’re trying to say, or if they didn’t hear you. Sadly to say that all of them did hear you but what y’re talking, chatting (if you like), about is not making sense. So repeating isn?t the way to get to them.
In the meanwhile they are all that annoyed that whatever y?re going to say next will not be accepted in any way. Repeating will be like fuel to the fire and not resolve anything.
My compliments for trying and trying again and trying over again. Better get in to a communication class where you can learn about concepts of effective communication.
Let me give you one possibility:
{Compliment}, {compliment}, {compliment}, {give suggestion to improve(change)}, {compliment}.
And if possible make the last {compliment} one that speaks in favor of the improve(change) action. In communications this is called the sandwich-method.
Have fun.

NZ You’re Amazing

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I have to give it to you, your definitely amazing. You start all this nonsense, let it build up and when it looks like people are tired of the drivel that you spew, you accuse them of doing exactly what YOU are doing to them, only in reverse.
You paint your self as some kind of poor misunderstood person who has never been given a proper chance by the “Evil” People at TR. I beg to differ.
And when the conversation takes a twist that you either don’t like or not going your way, you immediately jump on the ” I’m being picked on” bandwagon.
This may be you idea of a conversation, but as far as I’m concerned it’s a bloody waste of time and all it does encourage you and other wanna bees just like you to try to suck us all in to your little games.
Frankly, I think you’re a fool for not taking advantage of the great opportunity to learn from REAL pros, not simpletons that surround you. These are highly skilled and intelligent professionals and are at the top of their field and yet they still manage to come over here and waste their valuable time on the likes of you.
I abhor hypocrisy and you Sir are a Hypocrite of the first water. The sad part is that you think us so naive as no to see it.
This is the only time I will ever correspond with you and don’t come back at me with the “Chip on the shoulder bit. It’s the chip on “Your” Shoulder that started all this nonsense.
If TR makes you number one, so be it, the result will be that those of us with Brains, will simply lower our opinions of the quality required by TR and carry on our merry way.
You’ve done nothing but complain and whine since this stupidity was stated. You even have the nerve that start another argument whilst in the middle of a so-called apology.
You Sir are an instigator and an agitator, nothing more.
You need your head read and I mean badly.
So go away little boy and when you’ve matured enough,come back and try again, only this time, dump the histrionics and be a pro, the response will amaze even little you.

Aaron

And you take yourself way to seriously.

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http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=188223&messageID=1932321

🙂

lighten up, relax, you’ll live longer.

IS that the best you can do “Dude?”

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If so you’ll have to try a lot harder than that. The fact is that you and your type are insignificant and you don’t like it. Then you put up addresses as answers.
Real Mature. I do think of myself as serious. Certainly serious enough to know when I’m being insulted . Play your little kid’s games and enjoy yourselves. If my colleagues choose to be kind enough to give you a second chance, that’s their prerogative, as for myself, you just blew yours.
Change your name, change your town change whatever you want and it will still come out the same. Stupid, Pointless and Inane.
I’ll know you an ignore you and yours accordingly, so go and bait so other poor fool.
and take your girlfriend Maarty or Martyr or whatever with you.
You won’t be hearing from me again, I don’t bait.
Thank you for the lack of attention and the mentally deficient answer, as usual.
By the way, “DUDE”, I am indeed very serious.
Aaron

It was more then you were worth

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Respect vs Lack of Animosity vs Outright Hatred

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I’m breaking a promise I made to myself, but here goes.

NZ, I think you should realize that there is more than one way to be accepted around TR. I peronally hold several in this community in high regard based on what I’ve read from them over the past 1 1/2 years I’ve actively posted. For many, I respect their technical knowledge, for others I respect their sense of humor (especially Maecuff and GG 😉 ) For yet others it’s what they’ve accomplished in their careers or even the consistancy of their political opinions. I’m sure that peers have opinions about me, and I’ll freely admit that technically, I’m probably scratching to reach the 5th percentile.

But I don’t get flamed too often, and I believe that’s because I try to be respectful of most here and keep my nose out of where it doesn’t belong. I believe that you’ve quickly developed a reputation as self-serving, maybe a little bit rude, and kind of childish. It’s tough to overcome first impressions, but only the future lays in front of us and I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. My current opinion of you is neutral as of now. I hope others will do the same.

If you still feel put-upon in a week or two, my advice would be to take your ball and go home. Best of luck.

I don’t feel put-upon

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really I don’t, this guy has got what it’s all about, down to a tea (or is that T).

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=188223&messageID=1932272

Internet thuggery exists everywhere

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Elsewhere on this forum, an individual started some threads asking for opinions, yet when he started getting them, he said something about opinions are like rear ends….
I guess he wasn’t really wanting other people’s opinions – he just wanted everyone to validate his.
It’s like that on the Atlanta Falcon’s messageboard, and many other internet forums I have seen.
It is pretty easy to be Mr. ToughGuy behind a keyboard.

So the question begs

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where do you see this theggery going on today?

I could see if someone made a point of following a user around harrassing them for you to make this statement.

Do you really see that here?

Just asking, from the safety of my keyboard…

Gee what a great troll this is: much ado about nothing

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it is completely about nothing important!! That is just great! My compliments!
Oh, you did not intend it to be a troll? I see -you have been apologizing left and right to everyone in all kinds of forums. Too bad, really.

My remedy with annoying posts is : ignore them- which is what should have been done with anything annoying you wrote. You can killfile annoying posters in newsgroups, you know. Meanwhile, do not let these flamers bother you, since you obviously wrote what you thought would make a good topic. There is no accounting for taste, and I do not see why these flamers are wasting their time with ripping you, or why you waste your time with apologizing to them. they will just continue to rip you, you know. And now they will rip me for writing what I think.

Your right!

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And thats all I can say about that.

Thanks for the reply.

This is a typical Miscellaneous thread

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If you check down this – or any – thread, you’ll see lots of subthreads and little discussions between peers who obviously post regularly on here. We’ve hijacked his thread for our own uses.

We’re just having a bit of relaxation posting and most of us know how others will react, what interests them, winds them up and so on. It’s not meant to be important – no blows are struck, no wars started. Most post are in fun.

Most newbies – we have all been that – have fitted in because they’ve picked up on what’s going on before posting. Alas for NZ_Justice, he did a seagull impersonation in that he flew in and shat all over everything, opened up a bunch of long-dead threads posting mostly meaningless one-liners. Some tried to reason with him, some flamed him and some ignored him. Some of us tried all three. Now he’s making a complete arse of himself by apologising everywhere.

What any newbie should do, after studying the ground a bit, is to start a miscellaneous thread on something he or she really cares about, put in some thought-out views and invite comment and argue properly. That’s one way to get a bit of site-cred.

This wasn’t a good topic for NZ to open – we all read it as a whine.

No rip on you here.

So what? Bring on the pitbulls? just leave it alone already

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Why did you answer to that whine, if it is not a good topic? Why did you not just ignore it? To me it sounds like you wanted to fire things up a bit more.just like you said, he apologised left and right. yet you guys keep on harping on him, now for the fact that he IS apologising. Well what DO you want, his head on a platter?

I have seen him give some very decent answers in other forums or ask serious questions. The fact that he is a newbee it is not an excuse to rip him.
I have to say , Neil , you do not seem to be the biggest culprit here, in fact, your answers strike me as those from a very nice and laid-back person. But replies like those from Maxwell Edison are just uncalled for. At one point or another you guys go on about someone’s fragile psyche NZjustice might have hurt with one of his posts. What about his psyche, is he less then human?

I think you guys, you “professionals” as someone claimed to be, should lay off. and my advice to NZJustice is to take on another ID , if he wants to post seriously, , he obviously is going to continue to be harrassed with this ID. And now that he knows protocols, he can post better and yeah,NZ, no sense anwering to old threads.

You guys made your point. Get on with it. Jeez.
yes this is one useless thread, the way some people go on about NZ not understanding how to post and yet refusing to acknowledge that he is trying to do better and wants this to stop. I call it pittbull mentality, all at the throat of one, and worry him to death. Arf, arf. Professional pitbulls.

Head on a platter??? Hmm, not bad for openers.

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Thanks for the suggestion. We pitbulls most humbly thank you for putting that forward.

I see you are in Torrance; are you one of those touchy-feely type Californians? I would, again humbly, suggest you follow your own advice and ignore us pitbulls. Nobody forces you to read our stuff so, get a life.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

I figured you would not be able to leave that one alone

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and as far as your advice to me, that is exactly what I have been trying to tell you and your fellow pack members.But you go by a different set of rules right? Quod lucet Iovis non lucet Bovis. Or “canis ” , in your case.Do as I say, not as I do is what you go by.

arf, arf (no I am IMPORTED touch me andexpect to feel my teeth)
Maartje (the other white meat)

Actually, Maartje

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If NZJ posts something that is relevant to me, I’ll answer it quite civilly – as I did earlier in this thread. If he wants a proper discussion about something interesting then, again, I haven’t a problem. I can’t speak for anyone else but I don’t really want to drive him away. He just needs to throttle back a bit on the megaposts. No need to apologise. Just post his views and I, for one, won’t harass him. Probably. Unless he deserves it (or disagrees with me). :p

Alas the “fragile psyche” was my clumsy attempt at an ironic description of Dawg – who [b]does[/b] live up to his name.

Some of us just have too much free time!

😀

Yup

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It is fine with me, the way you post, and that is how I will react when spoken to in a civil manner. And lawd, I know that if I screw up in a forum while making a serious attempt to postI do not want to get flamed by the more -righteous – then-thou crowd. As far as I can see, no one here is afraid to be a little OT in these forums . But I cannot stand unneccessary flaming.I am with you on that remark about the Psyche of Dawg; (that would make a great book title)I just missed his fangs.But hey, I was waiting to see who would react civilly – like you:) and what cockroaches would come out of the woodwork . I do not mind shadowboxing with the Dawgs of this world;) in fact, it is quite enjoyable- for a while, until I get bored with it . This is not a serious fight or cause for me.I just hate flamers.
Enjoy your free time and watch the arena;)
M

You considered that a flame? Geez I’m better than I thought.

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I thought I was reasonably restrained in my post and you refer to my tender psyche? I’ve been sitting around for over twenty days [b]not responding[/b] to the likes of Justice and Underage but eventually Justice went too far and I jumped on him. If you think that was a bit harsh or over the top, consider this; if these two and there ilk continue in the fashion they are proceeding right now, they will get a slap upside the head and a very rude awakening in the market place. There is a slim hope for Justice perhaps but Underage needs a lot of maturing before anyone can determine his potential; frankly I think his chances of developing any potential lie somewhere between slim and none and slim is out of town this week. I’ve had too many of these kind of bozoes requesting work from me and they wonder why they are turned away??? The way I treat them here is mild to what the market will do to them if they do not readjust their attitudes. They are well on the way to becoming career burger flippers. What I do to them here should be looked upon as a public service because if they don’t get with the program they’ll become welfare bums. Maybe you’re happy with that but I am already paying too much in taxes. Think of it this way or ask yourself this question; if they do not accord anyone any modicum of politeness or respect, why give [b]them[/b] any??? What have either of them done to create or achieve anything??? Accordingly I have no respect for either of them and treat them with the manner in which they behave, which is akin to the lowlife scum that they most definitely are. You want to treat them with kid gloves??? Be my guest but know this much they’re looking at you as some kind of fool or chump. I am neither of these and anyone who has tryed treating me in that way, has invariably regretted it in hindsight and I am definitely not alone in this reaction. I come here to learn things and for a bit of R & R. Justice and Underage are disturbing me needlessly and I suspect, the vast majority here as well. I am just a bit more forceful and honest than most about expressing my displeasure.

I gather you do not appreciate or like my methods and for that matter I don’t approve of yours but you can treat them as you wish; just have the curtesy to let me treat them in the manner as I so wish. I have not interfered or commented on your motives otherwise, except in this particular instance, please leave me to handle them as I so will and know this much, I have barely got warmed up as yet, as anyone who remembers IT_lobo and MrMiami will be, I am sure, only too happy to tell you.

I do not know if you intend to pursue your criticism of me nor do I particularly care. Who can foresee the future, I can’t and neither can you but I suspect that I’ve had much more experience in dealing with these types, successfully I might add, than you have had or are ever likely to have. I would suggest that we agree to disagree and make discussion on more fruitful topics other than Justice and Underage. In closing I will leave you a link which I think goes far in explaining my handling of these clowns.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11189-0.html?forumID=3&threadID=188385&start=0

This is a web site for people involved in tech not a playground for kiddies. You can welcome them if you want but as for me, I’ll treat them as they deserve to be treated, with all the scorn and contempt that I can muster. BTW this is only one instance but it does have the most blatant headline. Their others are much in the same vein. Look into it under New Discussions. Justice, to give him his due, tries to restrain himself ocassionally but Underage should be barred as a total nuisance and idiot. Ask the women on TR how they feel reading a headline like that from some snotnosed punk. Then come back and tell me again that my methods are wrong.

Enough!!!!!!

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

We’ll see what happens now

In reply to You considered that a flame? Geez I’m better than I thought.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=96&threadID=188455&start=0

I have never called for banishment nor silencing, until now.

This goes beyond ignoring as the more we ignore, the louder he gets.

Remember his first post was tryin to get back into the last board that kicked him out. You all know NOW why this punk was kicked out of that board and SHOULD be kicked out of this one.

Gee I scored.

In reply to You considered that a flame? Geez I’m better than I thought.

I got you to rant.(pat myself on the lily whitemeat shoulder, pat, pat)

However, you are right about that underage post. That is uncalled for. I have not seen that. I can understand your distaste at having to look at immature stuff like that . But what has this post in common with NZjustice? Unless they are posted by one and the same person, you cannot punish one for the sins of the other.
Still ignore it, or report it and it will get sniffed.

You obviously didn’t delve into Justice’s posts or the others from …….

In reply to You considered that a flame? Geez I’m better than I thought.

Underage. The headlines aren’t as blatant but the content and meaning are similar if not worse. Let me ask you this; would you want your wife, girlfriend, daughter or any female exposed to such blatant, sexist, smut. Or maybe you think it’s just youthful hijinks and doesn’t bother you. There have been threads on TR which have gotten a little raunchy; I know I’ve participated in a few but they were conducted in double entendres, innuendoes(they are not Italian suppositories) and plays on words. They were not sexist and the women participated on an equal footing with the guys but I know for an absolute fact that several women have been offended by these punks. If you want to line up on their side, fine so be it but don’t expect to be treated with any degree of respect, hereafter. The ball is now in your court; it’s your choice. Next time I would suggest you be a little more discriminating in the choices you choose to champion, because this one has loser written all over it.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

fyi….

In reply to You considered that a flame? Geez I’m better than I thought.

that link you included doesn’t work for some reason, but I’d be interested in checking it out when it does work

thx…rob,wpg

TR killed the discussion

In reply to You considered that a flame? Geez I’m better than I thought.

so that is why the link is dead.

Just a punk making a request for someone to do something to his big something or another. real crude. Underage has been removed like the vermin he was.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?PromoFeature=discussion&PromoByPassed=1&forumID=96&threadID=188455

I saw it, it was a good

In reply to You considered that a flame? Geez I’m better than I thought.

likeness anyway.

Obsessed?

In reply to Yup

We get it. You don’t like flamers, but your willing to flame the flamers? So that makes you like family, right? 😀

Just an observation…… B-)

Fight fire with fire

In reply to Obsessed?

Actually it should be clear that I react in the same way as I am being spoken to. I go from the assumption that that gentle language does not get understood by the likes of dawg. It is not his thing.
Actually, I hate flamers and people that think they are better then others, and people that do not know how to accept an apology; read all of it and you get a better idea of what I am made of. What it comes down to is: the guy has apologized left and right for any faux pas statements he may have made, so give him a break and if he screws up again, tell him – gently. And that is all I am saying. But if you get on my case about that, hey , I bare my teeth. And I do NOT apologize. Ever.

Now that underage guy is another story alltogether. He is a troll and should be banned. He is not even a good troll.Good trolls are FUNNY and keep the fires going, and crack me up. This guy is just lame. So I think I will stick my hiney out and contact a moderator- if none of you have done that yet . I put my money where my mouth is and do not just whine about it.
M

techrepublic !@!!# technology and underage

In reply to Obsessed?

Hey JD
I cannot answer directly to your post about Underage, for some reason it won’t let me- but I sent a “suggestion” to Support using my most personable, pleasant ,lovable CALIFORNIA touchy-feely tone of voice , (kinda like- how come you pathetic bunch don’t have moderators what’s up with that and PUHLEase get rid of this SOB )suggesting they get rid of underage. And this is where I left my egg, due to lack of moderators: (what!!! no censorship?? And that in the Bush days- what’s WRONG with this country)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5112-22-0.html?subject=Discussions

If y’all really feel this kid is a pain – and he is- why don’t you shoot off a mail to the good folks. I will not defend an idiot like that, that is not what I am about. Not that he wont be right back wif a different name.
Peace, love and other good californai-ay stuff to you , duh duh dudes.And do NOT forget to take your Prozac tonight, Dawg.
Maartje

So far I’ve been addressing you with some degrree of respect but………..

In reply to Obsessed?

You’re the one coming back with the snippy, stupid, comments. Strange from someone who claims not to flame and professes to be against flaming. Is it your intention to continue in this mode because I will be happy to accomodate you seeing as I have little respect, in fact none whatsoever, for someone who seemingly wants to defend smut and sexism. Once again, the ball is in your court, it’s your choice but I would suggest a little contemplation on your part before you reply. So far you haven’t demonstrated much of that particular commodity. You’ve jumped in to defend these punks. Go back, really go back, and check everything out on [b]all[/b] the forums, then come back and tell us you choose to be lumped in with this scum. As I said your choice. X-(

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

your observation on the obsessed…

In reply to Obsessed?

works for me
’nuff said 😉

FLAME ON! (sounds like a sequel to the fantastic four movie)

Flamers? Name Calling?

In reply to Yup

Excuse, but just exactly, Who Are You? I’ve read this and many other posts and have never seen your name mentioned anywhere. Now you come out swing for N_Z Genius?
You don’t put up a blog, you don’t answer in any form other than the “I’ll take you all form”.
You run us down, calls us names and we’re supposed to be impressed by this, by You??
What part, your eloquence?, you’re decorum?, you intellectual wit? Just what is it that you want us to be impressed with to hear the fact that you love to fight cockroaches and obviously have a penchant for defending the inane?.
Reading all the above post, no one has called You names, run You down or mistreated You in any way other than civility, something of which you a are barely worthy.
I’ve got a Flash for you, there are No Gangs here.
The are however a lot of good people with a very huge sense of esteem and are always prepared to hand it out first. So you’ll excuse me if I take umbrage at your name calling, invitations to a fight and other juvenile delinquent drivel and say, who need’s it?. More to the point, who needs you?, other than the idiot that started all this.
If your a friend of his, good for him, if you a fan, then I can only feel bad for you.
However I for one would be grateful if you took a minute of your life and actually take a Serious look at the people upon which your are dumping your garbage.
You might be surprised at what you find.
I close in saying. Try for civility.
Thank you for your attention
Aaron

No rip

In reply to Gee what a great troll this is: much ado about nothing

Well said.

Thank you:)

In reply to No rip

that is all I can say to that.

Nothing! Exactly!

In reply to Gee what a great troll this is: much ado about nothing

Remember Seinfeld? It was a show about nothing at all and it ran for ten seasons. People love nothing. Nothing is funny and interesting at the same time. I mean think about it ? I am writing about nothing right now and at the same time I am thinking about nothing. It is actually kind of liberating.

That is one down

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Underage is history.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=96&threadID=188455&start=0

He came to TR looking for help to get back into the last site that had banned him.

We now see why he was banned, and he has been banned again.

Justice, you have said you would like to fit in. I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but I will give you the benifit of the doubt a last time. I still agree with the idea of the new ID just to get yourself a clean slate to start with. Hard to earn respect after giving a bad first impression, and everyone knows that first impressions are lasting impressions. As I said before, you are judged by your actions.

This really is a great place, if your a part of it. To this point, you have not been a part of it.

Don’t think this means you have to agree with what anyone (but me) has to say, just have a REASON for disagreeing and be able to support your reason.

Don’t have to always be serious, just rarely stupid. 😀 I am FAR from serious at least half the time, but VERY rarely stupid. (depending on who you ask!)

I think that is grand of you and the right thing to do

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thank you very much. And I think EVERYONE is stupid on occasion- we should all wish we can be forgiven for that.

Dang I sounded almost nice there. BTW, don’t know if you caught it but I ratted on Underage to TR last nite. I want my cudos for that and sincerely hope that other people did the same.
Bya

Yeah, between you and MARK

In reply to I think that is grand of you and the right thing to do

MARK peered both Smorty and Jay, so between the three of us, I would bet things were just jumping to get rid of the evidence before advertisers could see how far some people can sink.

As for forgiving stupid. There should be some forgiveness depending on what the offense is, and even second chances. If you follow along, you would see I had five or six times approached this young man to more warn him about how the others would react than anything else.

Some offences though, there can be no forgiveness for. Underage had no business being here from the beginning.

I’m confused!!

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first thing that comes to my mind is why are you posting this? are you belly-aching about some thing in particular? is this a general whine? will the posting of this make any differance? does anybody care? altho I may not understand the reason for this posting, I do see the imiture responces made by various individuals, why? does the posing of this question threaten your personel sanity or morality? are you that insecure? will this persons veiwpoint violate some personel ethic? does slagging this individual make your world that much more secure? maybe I went to the wrong schools, I remember being taught tollerance and compassion in them not the rederic that has preached by others on this posting. what a sad world we live in now!!

Yes it IS a sad world

In reply to I’m confused!!

Thanks to people like you that don’t see enforcing proper behaviour.

Would you support someone who decides to run around and yell in a library? How about if someone comes off the street and does the same thing, with the only reason for doing so is to make noise and get attention?

Of course from looking at your profile it seems you didn’t participate in or do ANY follow up on WHY Justice created this post in the first place?

People get judged for their actions. Your action is of stepping up on the soap box without getting any facts of what your talking about. Soppy. A shame to see sloppy out of a working professional in the “Other” field of tech.

Get your facts, get some standards, and go make this a better world.

seems to me …

In reply to Yes it IS a sad world

you have some anger issues at the moment. was my posting insulting to you? did you perhaps think of any other reason my profile reads the way it does? whould you be more apt to be insulting if I was a personel friend of yours rather then a compleat stranger? as to why or where I see the need to “crack the whip” at others, are you qualifide to speak for me? do you have a inside track on moral and ethical issues that have influenced my life? perhaps if I step down off my “Soapbox” you can get back to sticking you head in the sand beneath.

Oh yeah, turn it around?

In reply to seems to me …

It seems that YOU were the one that started out with an issue with everyone in this discussion, so it would be YOUR little happy place that was disturbed enough to come and lecture us based on YOUR lack of standards.

Your profile. More looked to see what kinds of posts you have done before to TRY to learn more about you BEFORE replying to you. Something you didn’t bother to do at all when you entered this discussion to let us all know how disappointed you are with us all.

You didn’t look to see WHY people were responding the way they were, and was just to lazy to bother to find out.

Was your post insulting to me? It should have been insulting to just about everyone here, as that is who you were ATTACKING. And I would take the exact same approach towards ANYONE that posts such a lazy, uninformed attack on my and the other members here.

How is THAT sticking my head in the sand?

How is trying to help someone, and then giving up when that person decides they don’t WANT your help sticking my head in the sand? how is agreeing to give said poster ANOTHER chance to not be ignored BEFORE your RANT sticking my head in the ground?

Anger issues? not me. Just little tolerance for lazy ignorant people that pass judgement on others. (that would be you)

still angry eh?

In reply to Oh yeah, turn it around?

now here lies the proof of the pudding. Is this the point where I’m supposed to throw some crippleing insults back? seems rather like the thing that your complining about to me. I didn’t agree with you in my first post (you assumed that my comments were directed at you personnely) so you imeadeatly attack my charicture. then you proceeded to assume that because I have not made any large rated or inspired posts that my opinon must be wrong and I must be squashed like a bug. yes I have noticed the comments made by the ONE LONE INDIVIDUAL your obsessed with. and Yes I have checked previous postings of this guy and I too find him rather abrasive, but it seems that you are as well. as with magnets, like poles will repell each other. but on the other hand I do know of your postings as well and it seems to me that you’ve let this guy dig the hole that you are using to bury that head of yours. most of the time I find you to be rather sensable but it appears that this gentleman has gotten under your skin a bit. your dislike for him should not give you carte-blanc to insult others as you see fit. remember this little bit of friendly advice, If you pick a scab it’ll bleed, if you leave it alone it will heal on it’s own.

where to start

In reply to still angry eh?

First, the most I did towards Justice was offer friendly advice, and then when he made the choice not to follow it, I made the choice that I would ignore his posts as he wasn’t posting ANYTHING of value. You will see from that point on, I DID stop responding to him.

There was no “dislike”, just a lack of respect FOR him and chosing to not deal with him further.

This is a grand attack on my part? This is me with my head in the sand?

As for “attacking” you based on your profile, you completely misunderstood. I said I went there to try to see more of what your about. Some people are just nuts and you can see it right away. I didn’t see anything there to give you away as a nutjob (yet).

On the other hand, if you DID follow back justices posts, you will see I have been nothing but friendly and helpful to him, even when I informed him I would not be reading his posts anymore I never attacked him.

Obessed? Far from it.

Maybe I did come off of a short leash after your first post, but if you go back and re-read your post you should be able to clearly see where you should have expected the majority here to respond this was. ( as was your intention? Tell me this isn’t just a troll attempt and I took it, hook, line, and sinker? )

I am usually an easy enough person to get along with, until given a reason not to.

Oh, and I don’t buy the whole “tollerance and compassion” argument. There is a time and a place for everything, and a limit of the “tollerance and compassion” that anyone is reasonably due.

I am a firm believer of personal responsiblity. I stand behind what I say and I hold other to what they say. Again, justice was judged based entirely on his own action, and it wasn’t a hasty judgement either (at least not from me).

But I don’t see you trying to understand this.

maybe starting from the top would be best. (later, my break is over).

finaly some commen sense!

In reply to where to start

thank you!! I tend to understand the situation but I find that the whole thing rather silly. there was a time on this site when people who were abrasive were ignored and eventualy they drifted away to annoy others. but it seems that these people are becoming more and more persistant and abusive each day. I found that if you give them the opisite (kindness compasion) they tend to get frustrated and give up the ghost, as to the profile I had some personell health issues that left be unable to post or reply to posts. my IT position is quite different from most I deal with about 100 home pcs on a cost based on the ability of the client to pay. these being low to no income I’ve done service for barter, food,and services, and for free as well. I consider myself no less of a professional then you. altho I have little to no experiance in the office setting my princples would not be any different then what I put out to my clients. most of my buisness is by word of mouth(can’t afford to advertise, I too am a low income person.) so my reputation is my advertising. sorry if you took offence to my “Head in the sand” comment but it seemed that you were locked into a blinded mindset perhaps I had misunderstood the comments posted because I had not been exposed to the problem, but I learned that if you respond to anger with kindness, hate with compassion, the “offender ” tends to rethink their position. hope the issue works out to everyones satisfaction. but judgeing by some of these posts this will remain a problem for quite the long time.

There seems to be a lot of this going around witness the above posts of….

In reply to Yes it IS a sad world

Maartje. Some people just don’t or won’t examine the [b]whole[/b] subject but feel compelled to rise in defence of smething they know absolutely nothing about. If this person had done a little exploring, he would have been aware of what we’ve been talking about but like Maartje he rises in defence of the undefencable. The response of these peoples to a perceived or misperceived wrong is almost Pavlovian in character.

I only partially agree with your position on Justice. He has been pushing the envelope and skating too damn close to the line, often stepping over it but like you say he has no credibility now and should get himself a new identity if he intends to stay and wants to be taken seriously.

Don’t take husp1 too seriously, he obviouslyhas no idea of what has been going on but feels the urge to vent his spleen. Remind him of this:[b]
” ‘Tis better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

How’s it going as a free man Jeff??? Getting any mud for your duck??? 😉

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Maybe

In reply to There seems to be a lot of this going around witness the above posts of….

tonight, if all goes well! :O

(and yes, slow and steady, but more slow! 😀 )

once again the head of ignorence sticks out

In reply to There seems to be a lot of this going around witness the above posts of….

yes I have been looking at some of the posts and have noticed the bad behavor of some of the so called newbies. but does that justify the continuing of the flame wars that these children start. if the subject is offencive the don’t answer. that would produce a more effective deterant then to add injury to insult. (as you apperantly like to do.)

You said, if the subject is offensive then don’t answer

In reply to once again the head of ignorence sticks out

Then why did you answer?

I was not offended.

In reply to You said, if the subject is offensive then don’t answer

but it seems that others here are right on the edge of their seat. just want people to realize that there are 2 sides to every discussion and that if you can’t take the correct attitude when addressing these new pups then what happens is an all out flame war that just makes things more uncomforable for all around. as you have just wittnesed. my guess is that the uncivil manners that these people are displaying stems from the fact that they can’t take criticism. but on the other hand some people on this site have made it apperant that on tollerance is allowed and all others that think differently must be silenced. who makes the call? you? me? the guy next door? and where do we draw the line, when it offends just me or if it offends everyone. seems like the just me’s are in good voice today.

Improve

In reply to You said, if the subject is offensive then don’t answer

But then again maxwell, we don’t know whether they improve or not.
I’m more to the friendly way, although some don’t deserve that chance and should be stopped right away, did happen today.

Rob

Life is to short to not enjoy it

Well if we must tolerate reading your drivel might I suggest …………..

In reply to once again the head of ignorence sticks out

running your stuff through spell check first. TR is not exactly renowned for spelling accuracy but your stuff is beyond the point of being ridiculous. The impression I get is if you are this ignorant of proper spelling then the content and meaning of your post is just as ignorant. This isn’t meant to be a flame but just a suggestion, if you want your views to be taken seriously. It’s one thing to misspell the occasional word or two and have a few typos but you really need to use a spell checker. If you spell like this in your work place doesn’t anyone ever mention it to you??? As for the head of ignorance sticking out, your spelling skills or lack thereof, indicates just whose head it is. I think that in all the examples of poor spelling I’ve encountered here, your’s has to be the worst.
From here it looks like your spelling skills are on the level of grade 4 at best.

[i] edited with help from JdC. Arf arf![/i]

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

thanks!!

In reply to Well if we must tolerate reading your drivel might I suggest …………..

as per usual the knocks are comming! what my spelling has some bearing on the topic? spellcheck huh? never bothered to use it because most of the people I know can’t spell to begin with and have no desire to learn. (check out some other postings on this site.) didn’t think it was required to have a degree in english to be involved. now that the almighty powers that be have smited me I stand humbled in your majestic presence O great and wise one. since it has come to simple chariture assination the topic has lost any type of merit. (damn I still can’t find my spellcheck button) as for my educational background it included somthing that yours didn’t, A class on compassion and understanding. (seems to me that I didn’t go out of my way to Insult you before so why are you insulting me?) perhaps when you step out of your office or closet (whatever) you might try going to the local establisment and sucking down a couple of pints. your a bit too high strung and have more then likly been out of circulation for a while. Not all people base the idea on the spelling or puntuation,but the merit of the contents.

Great going

In reply to thanks!!

In deed typing/reading in a technical environment should be about the content. I think that the most of us are willing to check whether the content makes sense. But does it hurt to check on your spelling? I’m convinced that it doesn’t. It only has pro’s, readers won’t be distracted from errors or no misunderstandings cause of words misspelled, and a small minus, it will take some little more of your time. And yes my spelling isn’t all the time correct (maybe most of the time). But I’m willing to improve (hope it does) and use a spelling checker. But then again my sentence construction is not what it should be, due to English not being my native language, but learning. The big advantage is that it won?t agitate people and with that people are more willing to read your typing/text/answers/questions and so on. In the end you will get more out of people and hopefully the right answers to your questions. But also there motivation to help you will be greater, because they can excel and let others know what there capability?s are. In the end we all like to be appreciated by people, special or co-workers (peers if you like) or loved ones.

Rob

@Life is too short to not enjoy it 😡

have you not figured out this is a bashing party

In reply to once again the head of ignorence sticks out

and who is not for dawg is against him. Criticism is not condoned, you stick your neck out you get bashed. And what cracks me up most about him, he does not follow his own advice. I have adviced him many times to follow his own advice and he does not follow THAT advice either.
What gets crackin me most, even if you tell him that he is right,like I did tell him that he was right about Underage, he will continue to harass you. I also told him that underage and NZJUstice are two different people; you cannot treat them the same way, their intent is entirely different. Underage is a Troll, who pisses people off on purpose , NZJustice is an idiot who does not know protocol and who already has apologized plenty, and is still getting harassed.I consider that extremely unfair and asenine and I think he should be given another chance.
The mere fact that I stick my neck out for him is enough reason to not even READ my post for anything positive I might have to say to him; like ” Dawg you are right about underage, and I am going to do something about it-” . I did, by the way, I notified TR, read the previous thread- and by the way, what did YOU do about it Dawg?-
I feel that a lot of people in here – not all, I hasten to add, but a lot- have no business posting , with a mentality like that. After all, we are all people. I said in my first post that I expected to get flamed over my opinion, and that is exactly what happened.
As far as I am concerned , I am done posting here for a couple of days. I have said my say – hey, I call them as I see them- and I want to thank a couple of people , like NEILB , and to some extent, also JDClyde for showing common sense and courtesy to me and to Justice. This is not about flaming. This is not about Underage, this was about NZJustice who wanted to have a second chance. He did not deserve to be treated like that. We all make mistakes.
M

Maartje

In reply to have you not figured out this is a bashing party

I just have to say that you are way off base about Dawg.

In fact, the first communication I had with Dawg was actually a debate regarding a number of issues. We were completely on opposite sides, but both presented our opinions and stance and did not need to resort to name calling or petty remarks.

I think if you let this one lie, you will save yourself a lot of energy and frustration. Take those couple of days off and let this blow over, then converse on a topic that is worth a sh!te with Dawg, and you may come to realize that he is not out for blood (all of the time). :p

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Profound response, Maxwell

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It captures the spirit of this thread in a way that no other post has.

I think…

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it was just a scare tactic :p

It was my answer to the question. . . . .

In reply to Profound response, Maxwell

How could the USA get to the moon in 30 short days?

Ah!

In reply to It was my answer to the question. . . . .

Now I understand! Oh, wait a minute I don’t! 🙂
What were we talking about??

That’s Max

In reply to Ah!

Just like the kid eating SuperFries, the strong silent type. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Max speechless before, one could say such an empty comment was purely ‘disingenious’.

Oz – Even when I say “nothing”. . . . .

In reply to Ah!

….I say it all.

(Context = Moon discussion which spans three different threads.)

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In reply to Oz – Even when I say “nothing”. . . . .

I think I purposely avoided the moon thread(s). I shy away from those. Just like the famous Evolution thread; I stopped in to see what all the fuss was about, made a couple of comments then ran screaming.

wondering

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were it is going to. LOL

Rob

@life is too short to not enjoy it

someone please explain how…

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this type of post benefits anyone?

If you missed it, let me quote it for you….

“-”

– just lovely,
apparently mimes now take part in the TR discussions – we can only hope they all have something great to say!

You have to be putting us on.

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The 250k is not for his post but for [b]all[/b] the answers he has given on Tech Q&A that were accepted. Are you sure you’re a Canadian??? Maybe you’ve had to many Lake Winnipeg whitefish and the mercury is taking its toll.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Good job!!

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Now all you need is a choir behind you. Are you a preacher in your spare time?

Thanks Mae!!

In reply to Good job!!

Now I have a mental image of John Belushi doing back flips down the aisle! 🙂

Is that

In reply to Thanks Mae!!

a good thing?

Well…

In reply to Is that

In, and of itself, no! 🙂
But being as it causes me to reminisce about the movie ‘Blues Brothers’, I guess I will let it slide! :p

I only have one thing to say to that..

In reply to Well…

“How much for the little girl..”

We have another name for you

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IT_LOBO. LOL 🙂 You’d have to have been around for a bit to remember that bottom feeder though.

So you are bullied, called names,spat on, slapped, kicked,…oh , yeah it’s just keystrokes, I thought we were talking about reality here.

You said it best yourself, [i]”It’s just a forum, people still live their lives outside of it.”[/i]

So why don’t you do just that, go and live your life outside of it (if you can’t accept it when people object to your opinions)?

Now as far as being bullied, how are you POSSIBLY bullied when you select which post you wish to read? Were you pinned down and forced to read posts you didnt agree with? No, that’s simply ridiculous.

As for…[i]”then becuase they been around for a while they get all their friends aganist this person too.”[/i]

No, that never happens, hasn’t ever happened that I’ve seen here either. People here are, for the most part, educated and successful in their careers. This would make them able to think for themselves and respond by themselves. I don’t get along with Max for the most part, but I will take his side on this issue 100%, I agree with him wholly. This does not mean Maxwell has gathered his friends, Maxwell doesn’t have friends here (sorry Max, couldn’t resist that one), but we all think for ourselves and often agree on one subject while disagreeing with others.

Obviously, you are unable to deal with individuals that don’t just take sides for the sake of taking sides, you speak out (even here), just to be heard but not to listen.

Are you the youngest in your family or do you have twin brothers or sisters where you don’t get enough attention? It seems like you are reaching out for acceptance, something rooted from childhood.

Sorry, but no sympathy from me, and I doubt anyone else who has lived through these discussions for more than 6 months would offer sympathy either. Don’t even begin to tell me about being nasty or gathering friends, I was a rebel on this board when NOBODY had a nice comment toward me. I have the wherewithal to stick to my guns and support my own comments without gathering friends, I never at ANY time decided to cry and whine about it though. Bullied? You haven’t been bullied, you just can’t take negative comments towards your own comments.

We have software just for people such as yourself, it’s called Solitaire. If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen and stop your whining.

will do

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thanks for telling me what I already didn’t know or haven’t said myself. Your one bright cookie. Please try to read the main thread as if it was not personal. You have opened my eyes, to how to read an impersonal thread personally. And I hope the sandwich guy reads this reply. And comments on my attempt on his suggested method.

Regards

The Whiner “being distilled for only a month in the TR”

Sarcasm

In reply to will do

Doesn’t work either, if that’s what ‘sandwich guy’ told you.

The last thing I would do is take any comments uttered here personally. That is very clearly the problem you are having though. People on the internet may SEEM like familiar people or they may even appear to be friends, but al in all no matter how well we think we know each other, we are all complete strangers.

If someone here told you to FO, you wouldn’t know it if you were having a drink with them that night.

Get over it, this is the Internet, not reality. Sometimes you need to turn on the light in mom’s basement and go outside for fresh air, you will see REAL people in the real world, but not here.

So…given that, how the hell can you take any comment directed at your own comments as being personal?

You OBVIOUSLY take comments personally though, why else would you have started such a self righteous and self pitying thread? Get over it and get a real life, computers are just tools of the trade, not life itself.

no thats not what the ‘sandwich guy’ told me. But

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it’s only Sarcasm if you read it that way.

Give your head a shake

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rattle the little pea around a bit, it may knock something lose again.

It is 100% sarcasm as that is exactly how it was intended ot be.

It’s only NOT sarcasm when people are too dumb to see what you meant. You intended it to be sarcastic and I wasn’t stupid enough to think it was sincere.

Don’t even try to say or show otherwise, you simply arent clever enough for that. Face it, you were being a smart ass and you were called on it.

sandwich guy

In reply to Give your head a shake

in another discussion, someone (don’t remember who) was giving him advice on “sandwiching” your posts.

a cross between ass kissing and asking for what you want I believe. Didn’t really care.

B-)

Hey, NZJ

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Post this week’s Friday Yuk. You’re the first peer to get Friday as the rest of us have to wait for anything up to another 18 hours. Colin, back off and let this man have a try. Oz, give him a chance.

Find a couple of [b]good[/b] jokes and kick it off. Don’t start it on a Thursday, mind. We have our traditions.

Neil 😀

we all are diffrent

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reading through the posts I see that diffrent members point out the diffrent way we spell and the games we like, I am in nz and we spell some words diffrent to U.S english, so what some of you say is a spelling mistake, is the way we spell it down under.
Games.. OK i am not a real fan of the 5 day cricket test, boring, But the 50 over game is a real delight, As is any good rugby game, I cant understand a football game where the players are padded up and wear crash helmets for a 20 second play then spend 5 minutes telling everyone how good it was, But that is the way I see these sports from a tv watchers point of view, I dont understand the plays and it looks strange to me compared to 1st class rugby, with minimal protection and a full 80 minute game with only score and infringement stops, But sure that is the way I see it, and if we all had the same opinions about everything we would not have the flavour and interesting diverse opinion that this discussion brings

football explained

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When a player is making 10 million dollars to play a friggen GAME, do you really want that player to get hurt? No, we want to keep him healthy so he will keep playing.

I guess if the “real men” that play rugby got paid 10 mil instead of getting paid in free beer, they would react differently? 😀

No one in their right mind would EVER argue that rugby isn’t a “tougher” sport, but tough doesn’t always equal good or better.

Entertainment is what it is all about, and we have cuter cheerleaders so we win! ]:)

Now go watch a nice tennis match or something…. :O That will help you get “in touch” with your feminie side! :^O

Spelling. Most people don’t go on about spelling unless it is as bad as mine. The ONLY times I ever say anything about spelling is if someone corrects someone else, yet has typos in their OWN message, OR if the typo is funnier than the intended message!

The REAL problem is people that don’t use the “enter” key to add white space to make things readable! Don’t you just HATE that? ;\

Still slamming the lemon and scotch?

football

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thanks for that , now i know the basics of the game I will make a point of watching some of it with a diffrent view

Jelli’s post will help even more

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he actually goes into explaining some of the hows and whats of the game.

It isn’t a game that is to be compared to another game as being better or worse. It is just a game, to be taken or left on it’s own merits.

And yes, there are plenty of jokes made on each side of “the pond” about the others choices of “sports”.

The other day there was even a discussion about “cricket” (sp?), and not the “jimminy” type either.

Enjoy the SuperBowl, and DON’T MISS THE HALF TIME COMMERCIALS! They are now often more entertaining than the game is!

Oh yeah, GO PITT!

4 Downs – 10 yards

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Half, I am an ‘ America Football’ convert.

When I moved to the US from the UK, ‘football’ (or ‘footie’) was the real football to me. Now I call it soccer just like the rest of my American family.

I used go on about the fact that they wear padding and helmets, but as JD said, when a team is paying a marquee player 10’s of millions, they want to keep him in the game.

When that player is going to get hit in the jaw full speed by a guy who is 6’5″ and 345 lbs (156.8 kg) who could run the 100 meters in 12 or so seconds, then you are going to need some protection.

A(n American) Football field is 100 yards long. Each team has the ball at some point, and while in their possession attempts to travel the length of the field to score a touchdown where the ball reaches the ‘End Zone’ before hitting the ground (either through being run, or thrown and caught). A touchdown is worth 6 points, with an extra point attempt afterward being worth 1. The extra point is a mini field goal, where the ball is kicked between the goal posts (the ?big H?) 🙂

The team keeps the ball in their possession by progressing the ball down the field by ?air? (thrown) or ?ground? (running while holding). Each team needs to take the ball at least 10 yards in 4 attempts (called downs). If a team does not make it anywhere near the 10 yard mark of their initial possession after 3 of the 4 attempts, they can choose to either attempt again (and risk the opponent taking possession of the ball where they left off), or they can ?punt? the ball away (a looming kick to back their opponents up closer to their own End Zone).

If the team is within 30-35 yards of the opponents End Zone after 3 attempts, they may choose to kick a field goal, where the ball is kicked between the ?uprights? or goal posts and results in 3 points.

There are many schemes, offensive and defensive plays, and nuances to the game, but the understanding of these fundamentals would increase your interest and enjoyment immensely. 🙂

Jelli, I was ready to flame you

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When I saw your post, and knowing your UK roots, I kind of expected it to be another rambling rant about the inherent stupidity of American football. I was pleasantly surprised to find that there is at least one convert out there.

The only thing I can add is to ask you when you last saw a “big H” goalpost? Except for Pop Warner leagues, they’re now all “modified big Y’s”

Now, if I could only get you to make a presentation to my friend’s English wife. She still hates football 😀

Big H

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I realize there are no ‘Big H’s in Football anymore, but I had an Eddie Murphy ‘Coming to America’ flashback. 🙂

I can’t even get my wife to watch the game, so I doubt I would have much push with your friends wife. Maybe you should try sending her an Email with the fundamentals of the game? 🙂

“Football” – the big problem

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It stops.

I, personally, understand the rules and even understand quite a bit of the nuances and strategy. Channel 4, quite a few years ago, had a program where they showed a top-line football match with (my words) the crap removed so it lasted around an hour. Great program – great games. When I visited the States I tried to watch the live games and I just couldn’t do it. I just don’t have the patience. I’ve never managed to watch more than a half hour of the Superbowl without getting excruciatingly bored and going to bed.

Yet I [b]love[/b] cricket! Ah, well.

Neil

The greates sportsman of all time – any sport – is a cricketer. Don Bradman, an Aussie. By any criteria, the guy is so far ahead of any other sportsman – dead, alive or playing now – that no-one is even close.

Ever heard of a little fella

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named Wilt Chamberlain? Check out his records that still stand 40 – 50 years later.

Or maybe a dude named Wayne Gretzky. As I recall he was pretty good in his sport.

Cricketeer – hah! Sounds like a sportsman that Walt Disney came up with.

Mambo, yes I have

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But it changes nothing. Just because it’s not played in America, don’t run cricket down. Far more people both play and watch it than any sport in your country! The number of Indians, Sri Lankans and Pakistanis who both play and watch probably exceeds your population in numbers.

As for Bradman, he had an international average of 99.94. His closest rival in a century of the sport scored an average of 60.

I’ll give you a couple of examples referencing your paraochial little sports that you might understand. :p

Basketball. Michael Jordan would need to score 65 points per game, nearly twice as many as he does now.

Baseball. Babe Ruth has a total of 714 home runs. He would have had to score nearly 1100 in the same number of matches to parallel Bradman’s statistics.

Golf. Tiger Woods could dominate the sport but he’d have to win 1 in 3 of every major for the next fifteen years. Early days.

I can’t speak for Gretzky – a player in a minor sport that I know little about – and I’ll leave you to decide if Wilt is worth 65 points per game – every game.

I don’t like picking an Aussie but the facts don’t lie.

Cricketeer? Pah!

Neil

Bradman missed the 1935-36 tour to South Africa due to illness. During his absence from cricket, Bradman took up squash to keep himself fit. He subsequently won the South Australian Open Squash Championship.

Bradman

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Was he one of the 3 Cricketeers? :p

You HAVE gone native, haven’t you?

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Shame on you! Shame! You stick with the parochial little sports that you have over there. We’ll carry on competing in real World Championships.

:p right back!

Championships

In reply to Bradman

Actually, it still makes me laugh that it is the ‘Baseball World Series’ and that the winner of the superbowl is declared ‘World Champions’. 🙂

I was just teasing, although I was never a big Cricket fan. I still like to catch a soccer game when I can though.

OK, you win. Those are impressive stats

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I’ll concede. But… I’ll toss in a couple of points just out of interest and the love of sports.

There was a Baseball player in the 40’s and 50’s named Ted Williams. He was the last player to average .400 at the plate. He’s among the all-time major league leaders in home runs despite having missed most of 5 seasons while serving in WW II and Korea. Had he played those seasons, one might expect that he would have the best offensive numbers in baseball. He actually volunteered for his Korea hitch. My father saw him play many times and said that he was an S.O.B. He would sometimes give the fans the bird as he rounded the bases after a homer.

Mickey Mantle, of the hated NY Yankees of the 50’s and 60’s, probably could have been among the all-time laeders in many stats, but he was basically a lush. He confessed to playing hungover or actually drunk many times. He died in his early 60’s of liver disease. (Let this be a lesson to you.)

IMHO, hockey players are probably the best all-around athletes. They need agility, speed, and strength. Gretzky was a “little” guy, but was the best player in the history of the sport. He started his career in the world’s premier league at 17. Even though he played in a “defensive” period – i.e. when league rules allowed for a lot of clutching and prevented offensive players some of the advantages they enjoyed before his time and again nowadays, he holds many of the major scoring records. His presence changed the game. It can be argued that some of the rule changes made last year were partly the result of fans wanting Gretzky-type offense back in the game. And hockey is very popular in Northern and Eastern Europe as well as in N. America. Please don’t refer to it as a “minor” sport.

Have a great weekend!

keeping people amused

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is harder and harder.

That is why our basketball and hockey games are getting ruined by HAVING to play 20 seconds of music real loud between plays to keep people awake.

What did people do to get through a game 20 years ago? Well, that is what cheerleaders are for!

But that is kind of to be expected from a culture where microwave popcorn takes too long….

Differences of opinion are what created horse racing.

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Now step up to the parimutuel window(s) and place your bets.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Almost

In reply to Differences of opinion are what created horse racing.

Diferences of opinion created odds. And we all know what a crock odds are, especially tote board odds, the most inaccuurate betting system known.

And yet I watch so many people bet the odds every week, thanks for the money, I say!

Think about it, a trainer throws $1000/win on his own horse, everyne bets on it because it has fav odds (which don’t pay squat anyway). 1 min before the race begins, he cancels his $1000.00 bet and places it on another horse, he gets the benefit of better odds and a far better payout.

The other trick (one that we pull off sometimes on slower weekends) is dropping $1000.00 on a dead sure loser, everyone bets it, and the odds on the winner stay high. At 1 minute to post, you pull out your $1000.00 and place it on the real winner that will be at 9:1 odds or higher, thus you make a tonne more money and you get to watch all the ‘sheep’ simply try to follow your lead bets all day. (that’s baaaaaaaad, I know).

Some people just shouldn’t be allowed to gamble, it’s just too easy to take their money.

I love watching the horses run and like to get as close as I can to …….

In reply to Almost

watch them coming out of the gate or nearing the finish line. They’re beautiful to watch. Unfortunately in Montreal, we only have harness racing and there are to many variables to make betting a worthwhile risk. The only close by alternative is Saratoga about 2 – 2 1/2 hours south of Montreal,across the border and they only have a short meeting. I could go to Toronto but it’s a bit far to go just to lay down a few bets.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Hippodrome de Monteal!

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Yup the Hippo! I actually spet a day at the Hippo club in Pointe Claire in December. I was watching live harness in the Hippodrome a few weeks ago (I skipped a sales meeting for an ‘important client’).

I love harness, it’s FAR more predictable and (once you know harness) a lot easier and more stable to handicap than thoroughbred.
KA-CHING$$$$

The hardest tracks to handicap have got to be Hong Kong tracks, second would be Autralia’s Bau Rosehill, just headwreckers those two, easier to just long shot it all day than to look for exotics.

We will have to hook up next time I’m in Montreal, spend a day drinking Scotch and betting ponies, I did a shout out for you last time but you weren’t around and my time was pretty much booked while there, all but one day anyway.

What?

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You guys race Hippo’s up there? What size bit do you use? I bet you don’t have to worry about the size of the jockies. They are going to be a bit bow-legged though. How fast does a hippo run anyway? Is it in water or on dry land or both?

Only in the winter

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Normally we race sasquatch’s, but they go up into the hills in the winter. We race hippos so that we can warm up a bit and get out of the cramped igloo for a few hours on weekends, the BO in igloos gets pretty bad when everyone is sitting around all day (especially Luktomahk, he never bathes after killing the wee baby seals). When we sit around chewing sinew to make ice fishing lines,he’s always the one who farts in his skins and stinks the place up too.

Actually, it’s sunny and warm in Vancouver most of the time, I think Seattle actually gets a lot colder than Vancouver, and even southern states have a far worse winter than we do.

Oh well, there are a lot of people who feel we actually do live in igloos here, so we have to humour them from time to time.

The Hippodrome is actually quite a bush track, but it’s still horse racing while away from my own tracks. Makes you feel at home when you’re away. Actually I’ve been to quote a few new tracks in the US lately too, it’s pretty cool to visit the out of town tracks you bet from simulcasts at home 🙂

They infest these threads like flies for ratings…

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… and service each other’s incestuous matings.

– esabatm

Thank you so much

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For your completely unqualified words of wisdom.

I offer you this, ‘learn that of which you speak, or another forum you should seek.’

Now get with the program.

I second you!

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i fell you 100% NZ. There must be a way the Irresponsible “Mods”/”Admins” or whataever they call themselves be made to pay for the crimes.

For example I was in the TMD Zone and asked a question. One of the USELESS mods gave me a reply saying it wasn’t possible, while an ordinary users gave me the instructions on how to do what i wanted. The mod kept shut and didnt talk again and next thing I saw was, I was banned totally from TMD!! I suggest on all forums, there be a poll for all the admins counting wether the members of the forum want them in or out. DEMOCRACY HAS NEVER BEEN WRONG! THANKS

you will find

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things are very different here. for the most part, we are left to moderate outselves. Except for the people that join just so they can spam other members getting kicked out regularly, I have only seen one member get removed in the last five years and it was just this month. he was a dumb kid that had no business being on a site for grown-ups.

If you keep your language in check and are not abusive, you will have nothing to fear, or at least not from TR moderators.

Say something dumb, someone else will take you to task to back up what you said with supporting information. (perfectly reasonable) while others will just flame away.

take nothing personally and have a sense of humor and all will be well.

esa_batm you’re a newbie and obviously haven’t a clue what the………….

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Miscelaneous forum is all about. Before posting derogatory comments I would suggest that you observe fo a while until you reach any conclusions. You haven’t been here long enough to have any idea of what this is about. Observe and maybe you’ll get into the swing of it but if you continue to make inane comments such as your last one here, you’re going to be in for a rough ride. TBaba you’ve been here a while and have no excuse. Miscellaneous is a free thought playground for IT professionals and if you haven’t figured that out by now you will soon find out what it is to be bullied and harassed. Be very careful gentlemen, we do not suffer fools here very gladly.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Lords of the Flies

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Sniffing for ratings
Noxious swarm
Joyously servicing one another in a dunghill
Of their own defecation

Dawg – you threaten me for responding to someone else on a question about a particular type of poster which I recognize and felt like commenting on? You’re as rabid and as self-important as ever. Rabid and pretentious – guess that makes you a potential world leader.

You choose to include yourself in the group I’m commenting on. Ok, that’s your privilege. I’m surprised you make the guy’s point for him by threatening me on a post that has nothing to do with you – that’s ballsy. I’m sure that’s a subtlety that will escape you. Get someone to explain it to you. By threatening me, you’re already harassing me.

Guess that’s how free speech by anyone other than yourself is punished in your world. Glad I don’t live in it or place any importance on the inhabitants. And I’m sure you wouldn’t be making actual threats, would you? It’s quite the nasty little bit of attempted bullying. I’ll be sure and save it for my memoirs.

This is the most amusing…
‘… playground for IT professionals and if you haven’t figured that out by now you will soon find out what it is to be bullied and harassed’

You actually use the word ‘professionals’, apparently including yourself, in the same sentence where you threaten to ‘bully and harass’. Priceless. Of course the condescending advice on getting in the swing is funny as well. At any rate, you’re welcome to your little world, I was just making a passing observation on a post that came up on a main page – I couldn’t care less about the strange customs of your cyber culture – especially since you seem to regard yourself as a figure of some importance.

I wish I had as much time on my hands as you do. There’s so much in the real world that I’ll never have time to do. Of course I don’t get paid for the time I spend on this drivel; I hope you at least are not doing all your nastiness for nothing.

Ok, I know you stopped reading long ago, since I’ve observed you’re not strong on responding on point, and I’m certain I’ve triggered your ‘diarrhea of the mouth’ response, so I’ll stop. Or maybe it will be ‘OCD’, or both – I know how you like to mix it up. Oh (fill in the blank) how do you (fill in the blank) all these (fill in the blank)

I’ve given you a new swarm point. Enjoy, invite your friends!!! Bring it mofo. Oh wait – I won’t know or care.

esarii,

– esabatm

My, my. That’s interesting. It’s pretending to be a vertebrate, almost…..

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as if it had a spine. Hmmmm, it says it won’t know or care. Does that mean it has left TR never to darken our forums again??? Damn, I’ll have to stop frightening the kiddies and old folks like that.

Response sought, response got! Too bad it was an amoeba. Gee, I thought I was being nice. Well, look at it is a way to cull the herd of dufusses.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Oh c’mon

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You were being a sweetheart, people just don’t know what we are really like here. The spineless will always wash away.

Thankfully, they represent the people we push aside in order to further our own careers and goals, it just gets easier every day I find. 🙂

Crux of the Matter

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You’re transparently a phony when you advocate chasing someone from forums with outrageous insults and condescenscion and then expect them to just walk away and not take offence. Then when they do object, or someone else objects, you all gang up and rant about their mental deficiencies.

You must be really arrogant to think others are so stupid as to not see through that. Are you so lazy you have to resort to insults? Are you so lame that you have to keep replying with insults to those you consider your inferiors after you’ve made an actual point and they don’t get it – I’ve actually never seen that – an actual point made by any of your gang, that is.

Of course, I’m usually looking for information, not half-assed opinions from ‘Steely Men’.

A sweetheart – that’s so rich – you validate his condescenscion and arrogance – which puts me in the wrong.

And proactively self-actualized. Impressive. Maybe you could call yourselves the “Renaissance Men For the 21st Century”.

Tell me, is it the Oz of muppet fame, or the magical city run by a phony behind the curtain and maintained by witchcraft. The second seems more appropriate.

The spineless will wash away. OhMiGod. No wonder we can’t communicate. Gotta stop, my head is going to explode. I can’t believe anyone listens to you on anything.

esyfa,

– esabatm

You fascinate me strangely

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DogBoy,

I just couldn’t resist checking back. Thanks for proving that you are unable to reply on point. And another point for NZ_Justice. Outrageous insults and ganing up seem to be ok with you guys, which is his point, I believe.

I don’t take instruction from you jackass. And when you try to instruct me on how I can fit in with your clique and ‘predict’ that I might be bullied, I’m going to point out what a pretentious snot you are.

What intellectual freedom you must enjoy on this forum when the only responses I’ve seen to anything has been meaningless insults. What’s the point?

I’m glad to actually avoid the Miscellaneous forum in the future if I notice before I click through, but I’m sure I’ll see you elsewhere. I’m certainly not going to leave as long as I can whip you and the Wizard into a frenzy. What kind of professionals are you guys anyway? Something in the “Benny Hill” category. Now see, that was a meaningless insult – learn to recognize them.

Oops, my diarrhea of the mouth alarm went off. Do try to come up with an insult that is meaningful. The amoeba references is new, and I get the spineless analogy, but really, it’s weak. I just don’t have time for the endless chain of empty name-calling. But I’ll give it a try.

Get Oz to explain the parts you don’t understand (See, another empty insult – it’s just so easy).

New Swarm Point – Enjoy!!!

esooah

– esabatm

Oh,I have a distinct feeling that you have no idea what you have just done.

In reply to You fascinate me strangely

Hey pissing me off with your inane stupidity is one thing. Pissing off Oz is another thing entirely. May what ever powers that be, have mercy on your, well whatever. Oz will sort you as he feels appropriate. Right now I don’t have any time for spineless protazoan, protoplasmic, slugs. If and when you acquire some form of sentience, I might consider you but in the mean time STFU. Is that clear enough for you because you haven’t made any sense whatsoever of previous posts or comments. In fact all you have shown here is that you are of that somewhat weird genus; a nebish. You are running neck and neck with Underage as regards your wit, intellect and maturity.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

I feel obligated to reply

In reply to Oh,I have a distinct feeling that you have no idea what you have just done.

More ‘predictions’ of dire consequences. Is he going to come through my computer? Of course I don’t know what technical resources you weenies have, so maybe he could find me. If the alternative is to be afraid of a poser like that, then I’ll just have to take the chance. Otherwise your prediction doesn’t mean shit, because I’ve seen his other posts. Haruumph harrumph.

So I guess you won’t be posting on TR anymore, because everytime you attack someone with mindless insults for disagreeing with one of your friends on any forum other than this, I’ll be there with a little poem – I’m not saying it will be a good poem. Once I finish demonstrating how many posts I can generate from you ‘intellectuals’ on this thread, I’m staying off this forum.

God – I know people like you exist in the world. Why is it so surprising to me when I find a real case. But your original post to what’s his name and me. What arrogance. And that wasn’t flame bait? My God you guys are just so out of touch or you really think people are so stupid they don’t see through you. The mind reels!!!!

‘If and when you acquire some form of sentience, I might consider you but in the mean time STFU. Is that clear enough for you because you haven’t made any sense whatsoever of previous posts or comments.’

That’s your substitute for replying on point. I haven’t made sense of your mindless blathering so I didn’t know enough to STFU until you made it clear to me (that you were never going to reply on point?). I’m getting confused already.

‘Confused’ – jump on it.

I still don’t know how any of this makes you look anything but bad. Of course, everyone already knows about ole dog anyway, donchathink. Need someone out there 24/7 to insult the weaklings away. If that doesn’t work, roll out the giant brain from behind the curtain.

Once again, with feeling, bring it mo fo.

Enjoy!!!

esafymuta

– esabatm

DP?

In reply to Oh,I have a distinct feeling that you have no idea what you have just done.

Does it mean anything or are you just too dense to edit a mistaken post?

BTW, I assume you mean “nebbish”. In what way do I seem weak-willed or timid to you? Or do you really even know what the word means.

I still would like to know how you can use the word professional in a sentence where you threaten bullying and harrasement? Maybe you could ask oz to explain it to me.

I love the way you use words that seem to mean something but still do not reply to anything in the message you’re replying to.

“Hey pissing me off with your inane stupidity is one thing.”

Inane stupdity – why would that piss you off? You only piss me off because you presume you can condescend to me like a child and dictate instructions to me on how to fit in. Your inane stupidity only annoys and amuses me.

See – words have a meaning.

“Pissing off Oz is another thing entirely. May what ever powers that be, have mercy on your, well whatever. Oz will sort you as he feels appropriate”

I just can’t get over the things you say. Is he going to say something that will hurt my feelings or are you accusing him of being a criminal who will illegally obtain my information and actually harm me? God, you are such an ass. What’s he going to sort me out over. All I’ve said pretty much is that you’re an ass because you think you can dictate to grown people as if they were children. That’s a matter of opinion, what can he say. If he gets me kicked off of TR, BFD. You think it’s the only source of information. I could care less about the opinions of you and your intellectual thug friends. You’re probably pretty smart, but I’m not interested unless it solves a technical problem for me. Oh – I get it – that’s sort of a “nebbish” from your god’s intellect point of view, not really accurate, but kinda good! One for dogman.

Of course, he can use that giant brain to come up with insults even better than calling me an amoeba or a nebbish – how about an amoeba on whaleshit at the bottom of the ocean. I’ll try to be a big boy and cry quietly into my pillow.

And the subject line
“Oh,I have a distinct feeling that you have no idea what you have just done.”

ROTFAFDL or whatever – What are you, 12? Is the boogeyman going to come for me now because dogboy has predicted?

You guys are so arrogant, not to mention pompous and pretentious, it just makes it really hard to stop with the sarcasm. I’ve met so many of you in user groups over the years. What a drag it is to be you.

If I were you I’d give up as well. Meaningless rants only get you so far. Actually, if I were you, I’d give up on a lot more.

I understand the mean-spirited rules of your little Miscellaeous electronic playground world now, and I’ll be leaving as soon as you quit helping me to prove NZ_Whatever’s point.

RE: STFU – If you try to give me orders you can’t enforce, you’re just making an ass of yourself. Again, a subtelty that I’m sure escapes you.

Good old Dawg
First to Fight
Too bad he’s all
Bark and no bite.

esafyf

– esabatm

Well that certainly puts me in my place, doesn’t it. Are all your posts….

In reply to DP?

going to be so tediously long and pointless. Perhaps you might answer a minor question; if I am annoying you, why or how does this amuse you???
There must be something wrong with me but when I’m annoyed, I tend to get pissed off but you are amused??? Interesting reaction however, judging by the length of your diatribe, I must be amusing you excessively.

BTW DP stands for double post, something that happens on TR occasionally. It is a[b]polite[/b] way of indicating this has happened. I guess you might even call it “editing” because having a post removed is complicated. It lets people know they bother wasting their time.

Anyway you might find some solace and guidance in this:

http://tinyurl.com/6wbv

You’ll be leaving as soon as I quit [b]helping[/b] you prove “NZ_Whatever’s point. Don’t you think calling him that, isn’t just a tad, gratuitously, insulting??? Anyway, if you are finished shooting yourself in the foot, far be it from me to detain you.

[b]ROTFLMAO[/b] Oh this is going to be good. esa_batm or esafyf or whatever he calls himself, is going to need a whole box of tissues just to wipe his monitor off either from excessive amusement or rage. Oh my; now I am amused.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

DP

In reply to You fascinate me strangely

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Get real

In reply to Lords of the Flies

Guys that constantly spout crap and think they have a point, or even a clue what they are talking about is what makes these forums so laughable.

“By threatening me, you’re already harassing me.”

Threatening you? Nobody THREATENED you. Learn the meaning of context and you will see it too.

I assume, sinc eyou are unable to provide validity to your own statements, that you are referring to Dawg’s saying “if you haven’t figured that out by now you will soon find out what it is to be bullied and harassed”

Uhm, that’s NOT a threat at all. There is no mention of physical or mental harm, it isn’t even DAWG who has implied that HE would teach you what it is like to be bullied and harassed.

Perhaps this will be easier for you to comprehend; We don’t accept mindless drivelers that simply cry and whine about being bullied or harassed when they themselves have CHOSEN to click on a link, post a comment and, more often than not, follwo up with their own flames. As you did yourself.

So should Dawg now cry about how YOU were harassing him? How YOU are threatening and demeaning him, how YOU have degraded his character?

Give your head a shake, people that THINK they know laws and rules but have no clue are the most idiotic of all forms of life here.

How can ANYONE claim to be bullied when you SELECT a topic, click a link, read and reply to it, hate the response and then reply to that again with more flames? That would be considered self inflicted.

Nobody chased you or hacked your PC then filled it with flames.

You walked in and opened your mouth.
If you don’t like the replies, walk right back out and shut your mouth.

Easy stuff, but it doesnt surprise me that you couldn’t work that out yourself.

Welcome to the swarm – More crap for your laughable (your words) forum

In reply to Get real

Cosseting their approval
Defending from all attacks
Tricksy
Demonize, label the unworthy foe: “stupid, crazy, feeble, old”
Band of Brothers loyal Dawg stands firm against these
Inferiors
Yapping insults, threats
Funny dawg, the brothers laugh
The world watches
—-
I couldn’t resist coming back to take a look.

How many time has Dawg replied to a reponse to one of his cronies, that didn’t even involve him by immediately attacking a person’s mental abilities with no reference to the underlying message. It that’s your style, fine. If it’s on this forum, I usually won’t see it anyway, but I’ve seen the same crop on other forums that are not ‘playgrounds’ (pretentious, pretentious, pretentious). When I stop inspiring the nasty swarms that so prove NZ whatever’s point, then I’ll walk away, or hopefully I’ll lose interest tomorrow.

I made one passing comment about posters on forums in general and dogman decides to include himself in by talking to me like a child that he can intimidate. That’s the first I knew he was on this thread.

Here’s a message for you Mr. Lawyer Man, Bite Me. I couldn’t care less about your legalistic bullshit. Do you see me filing suit?

It’s ironic, your’e telling me that legally I have no case – I guess, and now Dawg is threatening that you’re going to get me somehow. Although, I guess he can’t make a threat on your behalf, and since neither of you can get to me physically, then the term threat would be inapproriate so evertything you guys say becomes peachy because you successfully split a hair, yadda, yadda, yadda.

But please, continue to swarm. It gives me great pleasure to watch psuedo-intellectuals try to impress each other. It’s so funny how much importance you place on it. Bzzz, bzzzz.

Almost forgot, you actually responded to one of the points in my response with your big-city legalistic word play – you crafty devil. That makes you 1 and dog zero. And of course you both get swarm points. I invite anyone dull enough to be interested in this to look at dawg’s remarks to see how well-reasoned they truly are. I couldn’t do them justice.

And, thanks for the chance to elaborate on my earlier theme, plus I find the name calling rants from any friends of dawg to be refreshing and inspiring.

Wow, epiphany, you must be a product of the English School System. You know. “How can you have any pudding if you won’t eat your meat?”. “STAND STILL LADDIE”. That would explain why you think people are impressed by your phony air of authority. Since you enjoy giving instruction, maybe you could explain the poem to Dawg. Maybe if he understood it, he could avoid making my point for me. (update – oops, too late)

Maybe you could respond to me at the top of the subject so the thread doesn’t get to deep. Then you and your cronies can flog away until your fingers fall off and I can watch. Great ratings. Empty insults are so much easier than logic. However, I think Dawg has the edge in that category.

I can’t wait. I have so much material. But I’m only going to be able to respond to one or two a day, and I may have to take a couple of days off. But all in all, it’s just so exciting.

Very, very sincerely,

———
Yeah – I subsequently decided to bail on the whole thing – see my final post to dogboy if you’re interested. Do your worst, I think I can handle it as long as you don’t break the law. As I said, I hope I can resist taking a peek. You’re probably a pretty smart guy, but I don’t take instructions from anyone that’s not paying me. Especially not on etiquete from someone that defends dogmans unsolicited instructions on how “I might get in the swing”. You are either being disingenous or you’re not as smart as I think you are if you belive anyone with any kind of backbone would endure that. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
———-

esooda

– esabatm

Final Words, I Hope

In reply to esa_batm you’re a newbie and obviously haven’t a clue what the………….

I realized how much time I’m wasting here so I’m gonna try to ignore this thread in future. I know you’ll post all kinds of insulting stuff to bait me, but hopefully I can be mature enough to just not take a peek. Ooh, mature, maybe you can comment on that.

I really, really hate you guys. – Eric Cartman

I don’t hate you, I just hope I can avoid wasting my time on you in the future. Such colossal arrogance and such a tiny (apparently) intellect. It would be interesting to hear what you have to say when you actually use your mind.

Anyway, I’m sure anything you will come up with is covered in things I’ve already posted, just extrapolate as required.

I don’t know what dire things Oz can do to me, and I almost feel obligated to stick around and find out, but I just don’t have the time. It’s too addictive to sit here and catalog all the stupidities that come from you so I have to stay away altogether.

Actually, this will go to prove NZ_’s point. If I stay and fight, I get flamed and accused of being obsessive by the horde. If I go and don’t respond, then I’m spineless. Anyone that offends you can’t just be ignored, they have to be ridiculed.

Here’s an example of one of your more eloquent posts.

A classic subject line:
‘Jd you gotta tell me where do you find all the guys with verbal diarrhoea?’

‘…You certainly have a way with all the old, anal retentive, OCD patients, who can’t avoid tripping over their own dicks. Stealing their meds again? You can point this out to the peckerheads that this is what a flame looks like. See all the things I do for you. Between us we probably have the old poofters spewing
drool all over the place. ‘

And oz defends you. Doesn’t say much for Oz.

I’m really sorry to miss out on input from that kind of mindset.

eeste,

– esabatm

He has done it again! Drew, aimed and shot himself in the foot. Ho hum.

In reply to Final Words, I Hope

ROTFLMAO :^O

http://tinyurl.com/6wbv

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

What is Professionalism

In reply to bullying and discrimination and harassment in forums

As I look over the replies to NZ_Justice, I see that many excuse their ranting about his maturity and the size of his brain by the facts that they are :
– professionals
– really tech savvy
– need to defend their friends
Bizarre. A forum is useful when it informs the reader by expert reasoned debate. I see very little of this in ZDNET and TechRepublic forums. I do see a lot of ranting.
To me a professional is someone that is more than an expert practioner with a good history in the industry. He/she is probably a member of a professional organisation (eg ACM) and would abide by its code of ethics and behaviour. Whether or not they are a member of such an organisation, they would respond only to the ideas and arguments of other individuals and not get into a plethora of abuse and counter-abuse. If someone has nothing to say,regardless of how well, rudely or badly they say it, then they deserve NO reponse.
I am always interested by the Linux v Windows debate but I am very disappointed by a wealth of religious fervour short on hard useful facts. I find constant references to Windoze, Micro$oft, Micro$ux and Linsux etc extremely tiresome. Usually followed by a rant that someone else does not know what they are talking about, that they are a *nix fanatic or a Microsoft shill or whatever. I am often no better informed as to the relative merits of Windows and Linux than I was before I started.
It should not matter on which side of the
– Linux/Windows/other
– J2EE/.NET/other
– Java/C#/other
– Democrat/Republican/other
– Christian/Muslim/other
divides (trivides?) I sit. It should be my arguments that are fairly considered and answered.
NZ-Justice’s thread should have produced a debate on how to improve the standard of debate in the forums but it did not. It seemed to be more a discussion as to who could reach the highest mark with their urine and that those that were below a particular mark should simply go away (and die?). Sorry but that is pathetic.
Who am I? I am a 60 year old lecturer in Computing. I personally hate racists, taggers and people who do not know how to use the apostophe (you know the type – they write “Your a moron” instead of “You are a moron” or “You’re a moron”). Sorry, I do note “hate” them – I respect all human beings and will debate with anyone.
Democracy allows (and must allow) the sort od debate I am complaining about but that does NOT mean that democracy should VALUE it.

You’re obviously not up to speed here. You need to be a tad more objective.

In reply to What is Professionalism

If you have been reading some of the above you have seen me and others, flame somebody for what the usual residents of the Miscellaneous forum feel is egregious behaviour. Some of it is in good natured fun but occasionly it will slip over into real nastiness. This is kind of rare but not unknown amongst the usual habitues here but little, if any of it, should be taken too seriously. As I’ve implied in other posts, Miscellaneous is a form of electronic playground, where many professional IT people come to work off their hostilities and have some fun. Occassionly someone joins in with the intent of causing problems but they are soon detected and driven off by flames and insults. As you may have observed, the people here are a rather intelligent, rambuctious lot. Check out the other forums, there is much that can be learned here, especially in Tech Q&A but when you come to Miscellaneous, then park your sensibilities at the door and jump on in. First rule of thumb: take nothing personally but if you receive lots of negative replys, don’t blame the messengers, take a long hard look at yourself. Other wise have fun. BTW check this link out to enhance your TR experiences.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22-5269527.html

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Thanks for the link and info

In reply to You’re obviously not up to speed here. You need to be a tad more objective.

The text within your link confirms this is supposed to be a [u]discussion forum[/u]. You suggest it is a place where people get their rambuctious rocks off, relieve their hostilities and have some fun. And there was I hoping it would be informed, intelligent, robust debate on technical issues! You make it sound like a frat house party. Sorry, but I don’t buy it. Nor do I buy the idea that anyone should deal with “egregious” behaviour by means of flames and insults. That is neither legitimate, intelligent nor effective. I am reminded of an advertising campaign in a main-stream New Zealand newspaper that implied racists had smaller brains. Even though I abhor racism, I thought such a campaign was absurd – it would offend and hurt racists, make them angry and re-inforce their behaviour. It certainly would do nothing to educate or reform them. When someone is hurt through some fun remark, you should not blame the victim – the insulter is (and always will be) wrong. If you are correct about the nature of Tech republic forums and their “usual residents” then you would be right – it would not be worth me ever visiting or ever following the links from the newsletter. I say again, I don’t buy it.

something for everyone

In reply to Thanks for the link and info

There are plenty of areas that are “on-topic” for whatever it is you are looking for.

You will just not find the “new” and “hot” discussion list of much use. Select the tech topics that are of interest to you or even start your own and you will get the informative discussion you are looking for.

As for the Misc section, you will find the majority of the discussions have nothing to do with tech, but rather about the PEOPLE that are IN tech.

For many of us, we spend enough time DOING tech that it is good to get with other people of like interests and just “chat” about whatever. We could spend out break talking to an airhead secritary or something, but unless your looking for tail, they rarely have much to say of interest or value.

This is OUR virtual water cooler.

Like I said, something for everyone. Because of this, you have no one to blame but yourself if you don’t enjoy the topics of the discussions that you CHOOSE to come into.

Hope you find what your looking for. While TR has it, the MISC section doesn’t sound like your kind of playground.

That’s the nice thing about TR; you don’t have to buy anything; however….

In reply to Thanks for the link and info

the other forums under discussions are usually, not always, more informative but in Miscellaneous, you’ll find all sorts of things. You name it and it will eventually show up here in some fashion from the ridiculous to the sublime. Whether you are right or wrong is immaterial here; the operative here, if you feel yourself being insulted, don’t take it seriously or personally. The source of insult today may very well be your source of help and information tomorrow. Every now and then a serious question crops up but and this isn’t easy to put into words, you will find there is a kind of limit which prople will accept as acceptable behaviour. How to define where the limit is, isn’t easy but just recently there was a poster that posted all sorts of sexist garbage, here and in the other forums and was finally barred from TR for his efforts. Remember this, for every rule there is an exception and try not to take anything here personally. Bottom line: Have fun!!!

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Thanks for your help

In reply to That’s the nice thing about TR; you don’t have to buy anything; however….

Do you really Know what bugs me now – I did not really catch on to something you were telling me. These are the discussion forum headings and key words in the forum centre (how stupid is that??)I had always jumped into a forum from a link in a newsletter and not even bothered to read the “crows-feet” navigation indicator. As you say, I might explore the forums with more insight ans avoid “Miscellaneous”. Thanks for the push in the right direction. One thing, however, if you go back to my original posting, the things I complain about are found in many of the forums – accusations of stupidity, lack of technical depth, accusations of being a shill or a fanatic etc. I notice that “jdclyde” has started a thread on behaviour – “Dealing with people who have nothing to say”.

Yeah it can seem like that at times

In reply to Thanks for your help

But you will find more of the info you are seeking in the other forums than you will here, especially in Tech Q&A. I’ll make you a small bet, once you are feeling more comfortable, by the time six months have gone by, you’ll be flaming here like the rest of us. I didn’t think I would be when I first joined but look at me now, in your eyes I’m probably amongst the worst offenders.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

I’m a sort-of Techie wannabe and not a “professional” but

In reply to What is Professionalism

I agree with Bob G Beechey 100%.

I come into TR to LEARN. However, I wind up wasting waaaay toooo much time wading through gross:O posts! I.E.: Like the flames above.;)

I’ll say it again, if you are looking for info look in the other forums

In reply to I’m a sort-of Techie wannabe and not a “professional” but

Miscellaneous is like the sandbox in a playground. Just about anything goes here.The other forums are less likely to irritate whereas here you are almost sure to end up irritated at some point.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

just not a little bit

In reply to I’ll say it again, if you are looking for info look in the other forums

yet. And then I mean irritated. lol 😀

But have to hand it to you. Some of us, don’t now if I would be one of them, would have given up a while (not long, definitely not, may be even just about now :)) ago.

Rob

@life is too short to not enjoy it 😡

Dude, get a clue

In reply to bullying and discrimination and harassment in forums

I once had a guy ask me why no one liked him when all he did was make it clear he was the smartest guy he knew. He was aware of this, he just didn’t know why other people were offended by it. He actually asked me that. I tried to explain it to him, but I wasnt’ really successful.

I agree with what you say about the swarm and crude insult mentality, but you really are bringing it on yourself with your attitude. And if you really attach any importance to ratings, I got nothing for ya.

I just continue to be amazed that people who hold themselves up to be so wise and insightful can be brought so low in their discourse so easily and with no shame. Actually it seems to give them gusto. I guess it’s the whole elitist thing. Inferior to us, so call out the harpies to punish the unworthy, enjoy the show.

Don’t really know why you’d want to hang out here. Probably the fact that you do also means I got nothing for ya.

I’m gonna avoid this forum like a poisonous swamp in future. There’s nothing here worth dealing with the self-righteousness, hair splitting, mindless insults, age-bashing, etc. that my intellectual superiors, or as I like to call them, twits, seem to enjoy so much. Kinda reminds me of kids ranking each other out to see who can take it.

Unfortuately, they, or their offspring probably will run countries someday. They’ve got the hearts and souls of politicians, and on these forums, no reason to hide it. As such, my contempt and disgust for them is pretty much total.

For someone that is more dignified

In reply to Dude, get a clue

you sure are spending a lot of time telling everyone how all this is below your standards of behavior and you have no interest in this.

If you get off on a back and forth, have at it. If your going to leave, don’t let the door hit you in the a$$. But you can’t have both.

To come in repeatedly just to tell everyone that your not going to come in and repeat yourself puts YOU and your integrity in question. Make a statement and stand by it. Don’t theaten to take your ball and go home if your not going to.

And yes, we have all seen you show your own fair share of “self-righteousness”

As you are now avoiding this poisonous swamp, I really don’t expect a reply.

are you referring to:

In reply to Dude, get a clue

1. the original thread starting post
2. your own previous posts
3. someones previous post(s) (can’t make clear whom)
4. none of the above

Let me start this answer over.
I do agree on you as I don’t like the insulting, bashing, hair splitting, disgusting words, used by writers too get their thoughts and meanings as regarding to those humans and their writings they are answering to, being used. That is: if I know that their writing has no other meaning then to insult, harass, etc. the writer of the post (thread) they are answering to. Then of course I will have to know who/what they are answering to and what is previously said/written.
Hence my first beginning and question: to whom are you answering?

a. Is it 1, then I should say: why didn’t you come up with this before you answered all the other posts in this thread.

b. Is it 2, then, sorry I have to say/write, take your own advice

c. Is it 3, then please do refer to whom y’re writing/answering

d. Is it 4, then, sorry I have to say/write, this is may be a thread starting post and does not belong in a thread where it has no contribute to.

Add sub a.
As, you are saying that this thread is ?There’s nothing here worth dealing with? unworthy to hang out, this is a direct insult to all the writers to who you have answered before this writing, as they have found theirselfs wordy to give their previous writer an answer, whether it is a nice, polity one or not. So please and I am sorry to say/write, take your own advice.

Add sub c.
As your answer is posted it does not make any sense unless it is not meant for someone else?s previous post. Then it is the wrong answer to my question and, sorry I have to say/write, take your own advice

Add sub d.
As your post has no contribution to this thread what so ever then and I am truly sorry to say/write, take your own advice

Now as in regard of taking your own advice: ? I’m gonna avoid this forum ?, I would say do it right away.

Rob

@life is too short to not enjoy it 😡

THIS is why one can not create one’s own room in Yahoo Chat any more…

In reply to bullying and discrimination and harassment in forums

Some bad apples spoiled the whole thing!!!!!

Pal Talk has a good idea with their rooms being moderated by PTs own or member moderators having to conform to extremely stringent rules. But even at that, SOME private moderators sometimes become bullies, of sorts, themselves.

I attribute this phenomenon to be the result of at least the last generation not being taught good old fashioned RESPECT, good taste and proper etiquette in a group setting.

Remember the phrase: “The me generation”??? That’s when decorum started deteriorating everywhere culminating in such things as Road Rage and primary school students harrassing and even killing each other.

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