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Does restarting desktop each day have any adverse impact?

By onbliss ·
For a long long time, I have the habit of restarting my machine before I leave work, at the end of the day. Before this habit I used to shut the desktop off.

My coworker said that sometimes "restarting" everyday could adversely affect the computer. He talked about variances in temperature and what not. To put it simply I did not understand :-(

So here is my question: Does restarting the desktop each day reduce its life compared to restarting it less often? Or does it in anyway have a negative impact on the desktop?

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Here's a test for you

by Bad Boys Drive Audi In reply to A question for you

Run NetBeans 5.0, code up a simple command line program and execute it within the IDE. Rinse and repeat 5 times. You'll begin to notice quite a bit of sluggishness, even if you close the application.

This happens to me frequently, and I'm on XP with 1 GB Ram. Usually, I also have other applications open (the usual memory hogs -- TOAD, Visual Studio, Remedy, Outlook), so you might want to mimick this scenario.

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Most of the time it is badly written apps...

by techotter In reply to In my mind,

...from MS and other companies that write to RAM and that don't release properly when the app is closed. Memory leakage has been a problem with Windows from the very beginning and I don't foresee it being cured with Vista although MS's memory management tools have improved with each new generation of Windows.

As far as restarting the computer every day goes... no problem whatsoever with any of the 70 systems in my company that are my responsibility. I have finally been able to convince my users (because they see the proof themselves) when I tell them that a cold boot will flush the RAM and give them back the speed they had. To some of them, it seems like witchcraft. But hey... if it works... what the heck.

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Restarting after some time

by z_nziramasanga In reply to I have all

Like a normal human being a computer needs to rest so restarting it once in a while does help the efficiencing of the normal processing because you are clearing the memory by doing so and reducing the number of processes that are waiting to be completed.
If you keep your computer on for a very long time without switching it off for atleats 8 hours you may endup frying the cooling fan and therefor you processor would also become damaged so it would be wise to switch it off every 3 days and give it a break for atleast 8 hours

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It's only MS Windows that needs to be handled like this

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Restarting after some tim ...

other operating systems allow you to restart individual services and processes without disturbing the rest of the system. I've been using micro and personal computers for over 20 years, and they do NOT need to be turned off and allowed to cool down, UNLESS you have poor quality fans, the good ones are designed for many years of 24/7 running, and even the bad ones run better left on all the time.

What is important, is to make sure the airflow is sufficent. Putting humungeous fans it doesn't help if you then stick the PC in a cupboards with insufficient air flow. Good fans and plenty of space around the box, and they last for years.

I know of old 386 servers that have only been off twice - major power failures and the back up batteries ran flat. Last year they got upgraded to P4s the owners don't expect to turn them off until the next upgrade, say 2025 or so. They use long term planning.

My main machine aP4 3ghz is on 24/7 and only gets turned off when we lose power, or I go away for the weekend. That's a total of 7 days off in the last 3 years. Being Linux loading new software doesn't require a full restart.

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I wondered who would start the MS slating...............

by kevaburg In reply to It's only MS Windows that ...

Where you are talking about hardware you would be correct if you said x86 platforms needed to be treated like this in the old days. Modern machines do not need to be turned on and off due to temperature effect unless as you correctly state, there is insufficient cooling in and around the computer.

Microsoft is blameless for this...........

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One of the big problems that occurs in Windows

by Deadly Ernest In reply to I wondered who would star ...

is that the OS does not properly manage, and clear, the RAM when a program closes down. Many third party applications include a routine to ensure this happens, but very few, if any, MS applications do. Watch how much run a program to check on your available RAM and Virtual Memory, then open and close MS Word, Excel etc - the amount of used VM and RAM will keep growing, not drop back when the application closes. You have to periodically reboot the system to clear this out, unless you've installed a third party applications to manage the memory and do this for you.

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So should'nt we

by onbliss In reply to One of the big problems t ...

...blame the applications such as MS Word, Excel etc that do not do a good clean up?

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Yes you could, except memory management is usually an OS function

by Deadly Ernest In reply to So should'nt we

and handled by the OS in most other Operating Systems, I say most as I haven't tried every other OS - but those I have tried do have a function that monitors what memory is used by what application and clears the memory when the application closes.

But regardless of blaming the application or the OS, MS writes both and they intend their applications to only be used on Windows, so they should have such a routine in one or the other - yet they have it in neither. Thus, QED, MS is to blame either way.

edited to fix typo that changed the meaning of the sentence - amazing what a missing 'e' can do.

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You shouldn't have to restart

by Bad Boys Drive Audi In reply to I have all

I'll agree -- these are Windows machines, but you shouldn't have to restart them daily to "reduce sluggishness". The real problem is that whatever software you're using has memory leaks.

When I leave my corporate laptop at work, it remains docked and powered on. I don't ever experience sluggishness unless I have a ton of applications open at one time and those applications are memory hogs (TOAD, Remedy HQ, various browsers, Outlook, Visual Studio, NetBeans 5.0, a few Query Analyzers, which aren't so bad, but combined with the others...)

Usually if I get rid of TOAD and Remedy, things return to normal. Very rarely am I in the position where I have to reboot (usually after a bout with NetBeans, I'll be forced to reboot). Being a software developer, I tend to like keeping my active code and applications up so I can pick up where I left off.

When I take my laptop home, or take my personal laptop anywhere, I simply hibernate the machine. When I bring it back up, my applications are still open and my code is still in place.

Rebooting was something for Windows 98 and 2000, but I'm fairly happy with XP because I haven't had to constantly reboot. When I do, 98% of the time, it's due to some software package not returning resources effectively.

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You could be right in it being crappy apps, however

by Deadly Ernest In reply to You shouldn't have to res ...

the majority of situations where I've seen people need to restart to get rid of sluggishness, is when they've been using MS Word, MS Excel, and the rest of MS Office. It's not so bad if you open them, and leave them open all day, but open and close when finished, it has a real issue in XP, just as it did in all the previous versions of Windows.

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