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Downward Spin

By Jim S. ·
I've been working for this company for 13 years, when I started they didn't have a IT department let alone a network. About 10 years ago I more or less took over the duties myself and began doing all the IT work, and over the course of one summer I had networked two buildings separately with a fddi link between them, installed 25 desktop computers, 5 servers and added 10 notebooks.

Everything was going well through the years, I got upgrades when ever I felt the network needed it, replaced desktops on a 4 year cycle, replaced the servers on a 6 year cycle, did a conversion of our MIS solution from unix box the a SQL box. Flew out to Vegas on a yearly user conference for the MIS solution we used, I know, sounds too good to be true, well it all came to a screeching halt 6 months ago, we were acquired by an investment group, but before this had happend I had been interviewed by different people from this group, and came away with a feeling that I was going to be getting a very nice IT budget; NOT!

I have submitted 3 projects in the last 6 months that are needed, plus my user conference is no longer an option. It seems like they have invested into the company, but not the IT deparment. Has anyone been through a acquisition and is this normal? I been thinking about jumping ship and getting the blazes out of here.

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by Jim S. In reply to Thoughts to consider

No not yet but that will remain to be seen as I am due for a raise.

To be honest, they think I'm the best thing since slice bread when it comes to all this IT stuff as they say. I know for a fact that in order for them to replace me it will cost them about 3x more then what they are currently paying me.

Job market looks very good here, a lot of companies are looking for all types of IT people, and I have started testing the waters.

I am in a unique position really, I do the same job for another company that just started back in Jan. 05 and it is doing real well. So finding another place to go should not be a problem. I guess I have so much time invested I hate to see this begin to happen.

I liked working with this company because it was family owned, I even work for 75% of what the job market here dictates, and that is only because of the atmosphere and the people I work with. After learning that the company was up for sale I had tried to initiate an employee buyout at one point but that was turned down by the previous owner saying that he had already had an agreement with the new ownership group. I would really hate to leave, but it is getting to the point that I see no other options. I cannot afford to stay in a position that I am not afforded the opportunity to learn and use the new technology.

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Whether you choose to stay

by oneamazingwriter In reply to RE:

or to leave, now you know that you have support here, and now we'll be curious to know what happens! 'Sounds like you have "back up" with that other company.
"I cannot afford to stay in a position that I am not afforded the opportunity to learn and use the new technology."
Save that! It is a good line for a letter of resignation. If you were in an interview with me being the one to decide whether or not to hire you, that would be the best reply to, "Why are you leaving your present employer?"

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Get out of Dodge

by swohlers In reply to Downward Spin

Hello Jim,

I have been through four company turn overs and have waited for them to RIF me or try to move me to somewhere in the country that I wouldn't send my worst enemy to...

Get out of there.. find a new place with new experiences and new things to learn. For me, it came to just doing the 8 hours and getting out of there. Don't get to that point. It is a waste of energy and frustration.


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by Jim S. In reply to Get out of Dodge

I think I have already reached that point, it's becoming more and more like a regret to coming in here lately, that is what is so frustrating.

BTW I get out of Dodge every morning when I come to work and every evening when I go home LOL

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History is one way to get new approval

by wallowamichael In reply to Downward Spin

If you have historical documentation on your upgrades over the past years, you can package that together and show it to the new management.
Tell them "This is why you acquired us, the IT infrastructure is healthy. It needs to continue staying healthy, and here are the next three projects."

As for your yearly conference, if you can link a past project directly to a class or course you attended, it's more likely to sway new decision makers.

As other people have said, you can probably run a couple of years without serious problems. Do you really want to wait and see how they handle emergencies? Get them on your side quickly.

My advice - if you can't get them on your side (and by that I mean YOU are happy with the situation) get a new situation that you ARE happy with. Life's too short for bad IT jobs.

Now for the fun stuff - -
They could offer you a consulting position after you quit, too. That happened to me and to a friend of mine. We quit after new management was not getting on board with IT projects. They called us in a couple of months offering 6 month IT contracting positions to get some projects done. (In both cases, the projects we had been trying to get approved in house)
And in both cases (different companies) more than double the original salary.

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They'll find out..when it's too late

by kevin.l.mousetis In reply to Downward Spin

They'll realize the error of their ways when something bad happens because they didn't invest. Then they'll blame YOU!

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I don't think so

by jdclyde In reply to They'll find out..when it ...

What bad thing are you refering to? People slowly becoming less efficient is not something that will concern them as it can't be measured.

When/IF the phone system DIES, they will look to replace or fix it. If he is ready to go with a plan when/if that happens, he is covered.

He just as to realize they are going to be pinching pennies, and ARE most likely looking to roll the company soon after they can inflate the profits. This is just a tight time, and he will get through it just fine.

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by Jim S. In reply to I don't think so

What it really comes down too is, they will do what ever they like and I will have to suffer thru it, or leave, and that I have already started putting feelers out... One other note, friday, had a network printer goes south, un-servicesable, so they approved a new one "woohoo" so I order it and was expecting it to be in today, well what came in was a call from my supplier, now mind you, I have been with this supplier for the last 5 years, never a problem, any how he informs me that they have put us on "credit hold" once again because of outstanding invoices that are 50+ days, this is the second time that this has happend, so I take the matter up with my boss, he was like, ok what is the problem, I tell him that the new CFO is holding invoices and now my supplier has me on hold again and that you will not be getting the printer until it is resolved. His reply was I'll look into it, I know we are trying to get it so we pay invoices better then we have in the past (that made me laugh) I politely informed him that we had never had a credit hold in the past.

getting out of dodge sounds like the plan, *** and elbows fast lol

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