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By DavidLPal1 ·
Since i am new to this i have a question. Is it possible to download DVD software into my computer and watch a DVD disk on my computer. I have CD-RW external burner(iomegaZipCD650) and the CD reader inside my computer. As i said i am new to this thanks for any info. DavidLPal1@aol.com

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Creative DVD drives work fine

by tommad In reply to The whole ball of wax

I'm been using a 'bare" Creative 16X DVD drive for awhile using WinDVD under both W2K and now XP. Works fine, even if the drive itself is a little noisy.

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I nearly forgot..

by TomSal In reply to The answer is No.

I forgot one thing too..if you really want to watch DVD movies..do it right and watch it on a progressive scan component DVD player with a progressive scan digital HD TV attached to certified 5.1 (6.1 all the better) Dolby Digital/DTS sound system....After you experience that you'll look at any PC's DVD player and just smirk to yourself "child's play"...

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by timmc In reply to DVD software

DVD's are different from CD-RW. You could possibly do the equivalent of what you suggest, but a DVD holds considerably more than a CD-RW is capable of burning. If you had a DVD burner that might be practical, but you are talking a HUGE file, severalGigabytes compared to 650Mb max for a CD-R on your CD-RW.

DVD burners the last I noticed were extremely expensive, that may not be so true anymore.

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LordInfidel, well said! LOL!

by TomSal In reply to DVD software

You crack me up man - but right on!

This would of been posted in the ongoing thread but it branched out so much it gave that "max message reached" thing.

I didn't want to get so **** but since reading the other posts some are more or less forcing such a response here goes...

Some one suggested on a 650mb CD there are 650 million 1's and 0's -- WRONG!

First off, you're getting ripped if you only get 650mbs out of your CDs.

Secondly MB (megaBYTE) is what its referring to...Computers 101 tells us that a BIT (not a BYTE) is the smallest whole unit of information a computer can process. (There are units known as nibbles too - do you know the terminology of bytes, nibbles and bits arose out of visualizing data as a cookie (youknow the kind you eat)...a college professor told me that..oh well). Anyway, 8 bits are in a byte...going with that roughly take 650,000,000 x 8 = A really big number, that's the number of 1's and 0's in 650mb. And before someone even more **** thanI corrects me...THAT number isn't even 100% accurate because a meg is not a "clean" 1,000,000 k ..I believe its around the 1,048,576 vicinity. (If my memory serves me a kilobyte is 1,024).

As for explaining why speed makes a difference, LordInfidel already did.

Some side notes: As far as believing what manufacturers say - how CDs burned on their units will play on any CDR - if you believe that stuff, I have a bridge to sell you man! They are trying to get your money!! Compatibility is increasing nicely I will admit, but there have been CD's I've burned on certain units that don't play on CDRs (which leaves me to my last point...one of the reasons I stand by the stuff I say is because its from EXPERIENCE, not just because I read it. )

Later.

Happy burning!

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My mistake

by qomputek In reply to LordInfidel, well said! L ...

Yes you're right about the bits and bytes that was my mistake. But I am still not convinced that the speed you burn something at has anything to do with the actual data on the cd. Lord had made a reference to compare it to FAT 16 to NTFS. Yes these are completely different files systems but the file system used on CD for data is the same "iso 9660" and as for the TOC, how would that work if you burned a Music CD? Would it mater to a cd player what speed the cd was burned at? Do cd player look at a TOC for informat?

I'm not saying that I am right but what I am saying is I have nerver, until now, heard that buring a cd at 8x will not make it unusable on a 2x cd rom.

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Correction

by qomputek In reply to My mistake

I have been doing some searching on the net for this information and I was able to find that even audio cds have a TOC. The audo cd's TOC contains the starting time of each track amongst other things.

Still haven't found anything about burning speeds.

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And I haven't found anything either

by James R Linn In reply to Correction

My Laptop has a slow 4X CD Rom. And I read CDs burned at 8 times all the time. There are no setting I can see in HP's software to set a minimum read speed.

Yes there have been problems in the past with A) Multi-session CDs not being able to be read by early CDRs, and B) CD Writers with bad software which wrote bad disks which couldn't be read except by the machine that wrote them. But newer CDRs and CDRW have over come these things.

When I started burning CDs a long time ago, we used to find that only the Macintosh hardware made CDs that worked perfectly all the time. I suspect that Apple's tight control of SCSI HW and software on its systems helped.

The answer is that there are ISO standards (9600/9660) for CDs. There is nothing in there about minimum read speeds.

I suspect that as burners get faster, tolerances get finer and that may cause some of the errors you no doubt see.

James

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REad Speeds......

by stuart_at_oz In reply to And I haven't found anyth ...

As I understood it, the older CDROM drives don't have enough signal sensitivity (or laser strength or something) to be able to read the CD writables or rewritables. Bought CD's have a very clean signal, whereas burnt CD's don't return a strong signal due to the way the burn process works.

I have found problems with up to 6x speed CDROM drives, and my old 16x CDROM drive won't read rewritables either. (normal writables are ok)

Some how the arguement about the write speed doesn't ring true....

But I am willing to be corrected if I am way off line!

Stuart

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I can buy that

by James R Linn In reply to REad Speeds......

Bought CDs are pressed(well most anyways). I have had some burnt CDs which work in some older drives and not in others - typically the "better" manufacturers stuff can read these iffy disks. But I also have to say I've seen difference in the burnersas well - some do a better job creating disks that older drives can read.

James

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Ya know...Both of our points are moot...

by LordInfidel In reply to REad Speeds......

I came to this realization.. Both of our points are 1- valid and 2- Moot.

Here is why...

There used to be, back in the days when standards was not a word in manufactures dictionaries. Vast differences in the read lasers in cd-roms.

So a cd that might work in one rom would not work in another. All because the read laser could not interpet the speed that another cd was burned at.

(Now this has nothing to do with manufactured cd's, only home burnt cd's. Commercial CD burning did have standards)

So now, as time progressed and CD-rom manufactures advanced their technology and standards became common place. It was pretty easy to burn cd's and play them back without a problem.

However, if you take and older cd writer and anolder cd rom player. And burn at a different speed then the player can handle. 10 to 1 odds the cd will not play.

Now by todays standards I can burn off a cd at 12x (not reccomended unless you have a extremely good top of the line burner) and put it in any relatively new cd-rom and it will work.

First, I have not seen any cd-rom's being sold commercially that are not at least 36x for the last year or so. Even a 2 year old 24x can handle anything that a 12x burner can throw at it.

Soin short, both arguments are valid. They just need to be applied to the time period context that they are referring to.

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