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Excess votes for Bush in Florida and Ohio?

By Aldanatech ·
Recently, there have been reasons to believe that Bush got excess votes both in Florida and Ohio. In Florida, the UC Berkeley Research Team sounds 'Smoke Alarm' for Florida E-Vote Count; 130,000 - 260,000 or more excess votes may have been awarded to Bush in that state. In Ohio, Election Officials discovered that about 2,600 ballots from nine Sandusky County precincts were counted twice:

Florida
http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/

Ohio
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041118/ap_on_el_pr/ohio_ballots&cid=694&ncid=2043

Does this mean that will have a re-count on those states after all? If all of this is confirmed, do you think it might have an impact on future elections?

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Double-Standards

by olprof67 In reply to Get Over It ?!?!

For the record, in 1960, I was ten years old.

Richard Nixon refrained from pursuing the fraud issue at the time, in part because he believed it would undermine the nation's security at the height of the Cold War we won thirty years later....

no thanks to the Democrats.

What it all boils down to is the belief at the center of the Democratic party that the grittier, more-short-sighted nature of their core constituency allows them to claim that lower expectations are justifiable.

Like left-wingers everywhere, you apply a double-standard, just as you currently are on Condolezza Rice and Justice Thomas, who decided to leave your plantation.

Whine as much as you like; you lost.

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Government accountability office to conduct investigation of 2004 election

by Aldanatech In reply to Excess votes for Bush in ...

According to Common Dreams, Reps. John Conyers, Jr., Jerrold Nadler, Robert Wexler, Robert Scott, and Rush Holt announced on November 3rd that, in response to their November 5 and 8 letters to the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the GAO has decided to move forward with an investigation of election irregularities in the 2004 election. The five Members issued the following statement:

"We are pleased that the GAO has reviewed the concerns expressed in our letters and has found them of sufficient merit to warrant further investigation. On its own authority, the GAO will examine the security and accuracy of voting technologies, distribution and allocation of voting machines, and counting of provisional ballots. We are hopeful that GAO's non-partisan and expert analysis will get to the bottom of the flaws uncovered in the 2004 election. As part of this inquiry, we will provide copies of specific incident reports received in our offices, including more than 57,000 such complaints provided to the House Judiciary Committee.

"The core principle of any democracy is the consent of the governed. All Americans, no matter how they voted, need to have confidence that when they cast their ballot, their voice is heard."

The Members listed above were joined in requesting the non-partisan GAO investigation by Reps. Melvin Watt, John Olver, Bob Filner, Gregory Meeks, Barbara Lee, Tammy Baldwin, Louise Slaughter and George Miller.

Source:

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1123-13.htm

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Smoke and Mirrors

by Toucan In reply to Excess votes for Bush in ...

The illusion of democracy. One person one vote, I guess there should be a legal contract that stipulates that you vote would actually be counted and have meaning.

Despite the flaws we have a great state here. How many other governments would allow the wide open discussion, dissention and opinions that verge on treason. Freedom comes with responsibility to watch both sharp edges to keep balance.

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I think you're right

by Aldanatech In reply to Smoke and Mirrors

You know what Toucan, you're right. They should provide us with some means to assure us that our vote does in fact count; or at least a paper receipt for voting booths.

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Supreme court case names Bush, Cheney, Rove, and others in fraud

by Aldanatech In reply to Excess votes for Bush in ...

I found a copy of the an Ohio election fraud suit that names Bush, Cheney, Rove, and others:

http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/articles/Election_Contest_2.pdf

Do you consider that these people were in fact involved in an election fraud?

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