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June 12, 2007 at 2:03 pm #2265339
Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Lockedby why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
I don’t claim to be a saint and yes, some of my posts and responses may be deemed as offensive, but why must the TR moderators chase after me and edit my posts? Since when did TR turn into AOL with chat room monitors kicking people off for voicing their opinions, even if those opinions aren’t politically correct? Is there some kind of socialist agenda behind TR and their dictators..err..I mean moderators in charge? If my posts are offending someone, then that someone has a choice of not reading my posts. It’s like the loudmouths who complain about “offensive” TV or radio broadcasts. Hey morons, there’s something called a remote control and tuner knob to change the station or channel if you don’t like it.
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June 12, 2007 at 2:29 pm #2584302
Liberals are in every profession
by mslamen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Iv’e seen some of your post while perusing TR and have never been offended. I would hope that TR would never edit ones words in the cover of political correctness.
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June 12, 2007 at 3:18 pm #2584278
Too late, they have edited posts in the cover of being PC
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberals are in every profession
I speak the truth about the H1-B epidemic and at talk about what I deem to be “cultural rudeness” on the part of the Indians, yet I get called a “racist” and “bigot”. The truth is the truth and suppressing the truth won’t change the facts.
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June 13, 2007 at 2:32 am #2584121
You need to make the distinction between the [u]objective[/u] and …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Too late, they have edited posts in the cover of being PC
the [i]subjective[/i].
Your statement that which you “[i]deem to be “cultural rudeness” on the part of the Indians[/i]” is, by the use of the word “deem,” clearly subjective. Apparently you seem to hold that others should conform to your cultural standards. If that is the case, then yes, by definition, you are bigoted.
From Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: bigot
: a person [b]obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices[/b]; [u]especially[/u] : [b]one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance[/b]
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June 14, 2007 at 12:27 pm #2586521
by that definition (off-topic)
by neon samurai · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You need to make the distinction between the [u]objective[/u] and …
We’ve got more than a few OS bigots floating around TR also. I only mention it because the definitial clarified it so well.
As for the H1B thing that pops up; I find politics distastefull in general but fully admit I haven’t the understanding of the H1B situation required to make any comments.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:27 pm #2586493
Quite true.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to by that definition (off-topic)
Most are unaware that the primary definition of bigotry is class agnostic.
As for the H1B debate, it is necessary that one [i]always[/i] make the distinction between the companies who use such & similar visas to obtain employees & the employees who are so obtained.
Unfortunately, too many ignore that distinction, and visit the sins of the father on the children.
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June 13, 2007 at 2:22 am #2584125
Liberals? Just what the hell is that to mean?
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberals are in every profession
And, have you any evidence to even [i]suggest[/i] that TR is concerned about “political correctness?”
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June 13, 2007 at 9:01 am #2586429
Liberal is a very common term
by mslamen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberals? Just what the hell is that to mean?
No, I have no evidence nor am I suggesting that TR is concerned about being PC. I simply stated that “I would hope they would not resort to that”.
I have noticed that these forums contain alot of different subjects, some of which have nothing to do with the field we all work in. I am not OK with racial slurs nor do I beleive that TR has the obligation to post any dribble we wright.
Liberals? Just what the hell is that to mean?
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June 13, 2007 at 4:07 pm #2586242
It is your use of “liberal” as a pejorative tht requires explanation.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberal is a very common term
Surely you can understand that.
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June 14, 2007 at 5:42 am #2586762
Liberalism started the “Politically Correct” movement
by mslamen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It is your use of “liberal” as a pejorative tht requires explanation.
Deepsand-
Do you disagree with that? I dont think that placing the word Liberals in my initial post which conatined references to (editing, Political correctness and cencorship)was that big of a stretch.In the future, I may reframe from conveying my political views in my psot.
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June 14, 2007 at 10:06 am #2586598
Please send copies of your posts to the ministry of truth first.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberalism started the “Politically Correct” movement
This way, the ministry can remove any inappropriate words.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:25 am #2586553
Ministry of truth! I did not know we had one of those.
by mslamen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Please send copies of your posts to the ministry of truth first.
I can see in your post’s that you are one of the level headed ones in this forum.
Till we meet again my brother
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June 14, 2007 at 1:22 pm #2586496
wasn’t “Liberalism” around long before the PC movement?
by neon samurai · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberalism started the “Politically Correct” movement
It seems that there was a liberal party long before the latest and previous up swells in PC. I’m not really concerned about your political views keeping in mind that there is no difference between a hard liberal or conservative hater. I just find it hard to believe that the Liberal party sprang forth from the politically correct movement.
(Ah, those days of wonder when someone was a “waste reciprocal janitorial engineer” not “toilet cleaner”. At least that over-reaction is done with.)
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June 14, 2007 at 1:47 pm #2585402
And, PC was long in the tooth before it came to be so named.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to wasn’t “Liberalism” around long before the PC movement?
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June 14, 2007 at 1:57 pm #2585391
I’m no hater
by mslamen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to wasn’t “Liberalism” around long before the PC movement?
Very well, I will leave my views out in my responses to you.
Conservative haters! Thats a good one.
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June 14, 2007 at 2:30 pm #2585366
Suggest that you review the definitions of …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m no hater
“conservative” & “liberal.”
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June 14, 2007 at 11:42 pm #2585203
By my understanding of the current slang, that’s a good start.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m no hater
But tends to be a bit vague, like the definition of ‘conservative’, which always implies a wish to ‘conserve’ something but rarely includes a prefix to indicate what. ‘Family values conservative’? ‘Free enterprise conservative’? ‘Environmental conservative’? It’s possible to attempt to conserve anything one has, making ‘conservative’ a fairly vague name. Perhaps that’s why it was chosen, when it was chosen.
Likewise for liberal, it doesn’t specify which liberty it purports to protect, only that it asserts ‘liberty’ compared to its opponent. Not much of a claim, really, given the anti-liberty propensities of its main competitor.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:31 pm #2586490
Disagree strongly & emphatically.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberalism started the “Politically Correct” movement
1) PC knows no exclusivity.
2) PC pre-dates its having been so named.
3) The term “Liberal” as here used is [b]not[/b] in accord with the correct definition of such.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:48 pm #2585401
Are you sure he understands?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It is your use of “liberal” as a pejorative tht requires explanation.
How many people remember that ‘liberal’ and ‘liberty’ derive from the same Latin root? How fewer understand that only a subset of the agenda of today’s left wing is truly ‘liberal’, and/or that only a subset of today’s right wing is consistent with the liberties [b]guaranteed[/b] by the Constitution? In my experience, the answer to all those questions is “damn few”.
How many are surprised by the phrase that Republicans are (on some issues, such as occasionally tax rates) more ‘liberal’ than Democrats? It’s true, but only if you consider the literal, rather than the colloquial, meaning of ‘liberal’.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:53 pm #2585396
I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Are you sure he understands?
His above reply to me makes it clear that he neither knows the correct definitions of Liberla & Conservative, nor understands that PC is simply old wine in a new bottle.
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June 14, 2007 at 2:00 pm #2585384
older than politics itself, I’ll wager
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
‘Political Correctness’ is the modern name for a particular variety of tyranny, which I’m sure is older than organized systems of law.
‘Politically Correct’ is also used as a ‘straw man’ to falsely impugn many legitimate claims for civil rights.
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June 14, 2007 at 2:34 pm #2585363
Ancient words come to mind.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to older than politics itself, I’ll wager
“Blasphemy,” “traitor” and “infidel” still enjoy strong popular support.
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June 14, 2007 at 2:52 pm #2585346
So many words for transgressions against arbitrary collective power
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ancient words come to mind.
And not one comparable epithet for those who infringe on the liberty of individuals. (‘Tyrant’ applies only to those with formal, recognized political power, though infringement on personal liberty is hardly the exclusive pastime of tyrants.)
How sad.
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June 14, 2007 at 3:31 pm #2585325
Actually, “tyrant” serves quite well.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to So many words for transgressions against arbitrary collective power
The presence of a formal or recognized authority is not requisite for being a tyrant.
Main Entry: tyrant
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English tyraunt, from Anglo-French tyran, tyrant, from Latin tyrannus, from Greek tyrannos
[b]1 a :[/b] an absolute ruler unrestrained by law or constitution [b]b :[/b] [u]a usurper of sovereignty[/u]
[b]2 a :[/b] a ruler who exercises absolute power oppressively or brutally [b]b :[/b] one resembling an oppressive ruler in the harsh use of authority or powerOur Founding Fathers did not speak of “tyrannies of the majority” without a clear understanding of the meaning of “tyranny.”
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June 16, 2007 at 2:23 pm #2597070
Not NEARLY epithet-y enough for me.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Actually, “tyrant” serves quite well.
I’m looking for something that implies the questionable parentage and a pox on one’s descendants, as “blasphemy” and “treason” do, and find no such word. Collectivism, it would seem, is built in to the forms of collective interaction called “language”. Another item for the to-do list.
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June 16, 2007 at 7:10 pm #2597022
I feel your pain.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Not NEARLY epithet-y enough for me.
While technically correct, “tryanny” just doesn’t have that certain [i]je ne sais quoi[/i] that “blasphemy” and “treason” do.
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June 15, 2007 at 7:11 am #2585089
You Sir, are Pompas
by mslamen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
If I used the dictionary while writing my post, I could use big words and throw down useless diffinitions as well.
You wear your phony intellect like a cheap suit in the hope others will be fooled into thinking you are brilliant.I have no ties to you as I am just a simple man. Perhaps Neon, Absolutely and yourself can attend a Global Warming rally together and swap big words while mystifying those around you.
This is my final post in this thread.
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June 15, 2007 at 10:55 am #2598579
Too Funny! :^0
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You Sir, are Pompas
What?
Never been around people that can actually use those ‘big’ words?
Hard to imagine that people can and do without having to look ’em up?Man! You need to broaden your circle of friends, dude. 😀
BTW… it’s ‘pompous,’ not ‘pompas.’
…best laugh all day!
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June 15, 2007 at 6:30 pm #2598341
Maybe he meant “pomp ass.”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Too Funny! :^0
Now that’s one he [i]would[/i] need to define!
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June 15, 2007 at 12:07 pm #2598465
Here’s a free spellchecker
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You Sir, are Pompas
This gives you a way to check spelling with a right-click in Internet Explorer:
http://tinyurl.com/z14zI’ve used it for years.
… thought it’d come in handy. 😉
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June 15, 2007 at 6:26 pm #2598343
Some of us don’t require a dictionary in order to have & use …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You Sir, are Pompas
a varied voacbulary. You might try it some time.
Using the same words repeatedly is about as exciting as British cuisine.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:29 pm #2598342
PS – I notice that you’ve still avoided the [u]real[/u] issues.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You Sir, are Pompas
Is that what you meant when you said that you are a “simple” man?
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June 16, 2007 at 2:28 pm #2597069
THANK YOU!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You Sir, are Pompas
[i]Perhaps Neon, Absolutely and yourself can attend a Global Warming rally together and swap big words while mystifying those around you.[/i]
What a ferociously kind compliment! Seeing your attempt to use me as your straw man in order to disparage deepsand is the most thoroughly flattered in eons. I’ll have to tell the Samurai, also.
Good day to you too, sir!
:^0
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June 15, 2007 at 10:23 am #2598591
Dbl-Post – ‘Sup widdat?!
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:32 pm #2598340
Yeah; they & the Custom 404s are back – again.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dbl-Post – ‘Sup widdat?!
:_|
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June 15, 2007 at 10:39 am #2598584
mslamen-TYVM for my belly-laugh of the day. I coined a new word today too
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
Ignoranus = Ignorant a$$hole. Maybe it’s been used before and if it has I don’t remember seeing it so I’m saying that this is the first time in print. Maybe I’m just a pompous
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June 15, 2007 at 6:33 pm #2598339
Bassoons are cool.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to mslamen-TYVM for my belly-laugh of the day. I coined a new word today too
So are oboes.
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June 16, 2007 at 4:02 am #2597204
Hey Deep _ I’m max level everywhere except here
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
Weird.
I was going to post something wittay but during this reply they just announced that a fighter pilot from a local National Guard unit didn’t survive his plane going down in Iraq and I can’t think of anything funny.
FWIW – I think that mslaren is alright with me but that’s just my opinion. Different strokes for different folks and so on and so on and doobie doobie doobie.
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June 16, 2007 at 7:17 pm #2597021
Look for my PM in your e-mail.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hey Deep _ I’m max level everywhere except here
Enjoy; be 🙂
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June 16, 2007 at 8:01 pm #2597007
‘T works
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Look for my PM in your e-mail.
Thanks
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June 16, 2007 at 8:03 pm #2597006
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June 16, 2007 at 8:05 pm #2597005
Further testing was required
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Still works
Going to do one more
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June 16, 2007 at 8:06 pm #2597004
Yep still working. Thanks deepsand
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Further testing was required
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June 16, 2007 at 9:27 pm #2596988
It’ll even work [u]beyond[/u] range of visibility.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Yep still working. Thanks deepsand
If you view the source code of the page, you can get the “messageID” of Posts that have gone past the right border of the viewable area, and, by editing the URL to contain the appropriate “messageID,” continue an invisible thread!
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June 16, 2007 at 9:53 pm #2596980
THAT could be VERY interesting
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It’ll even work [u]beyond[/u] range of visibility.
I can foresee a topic or discusssion going “invisible” and still contain 100’s of posts though only 15 or so “show” up. I haven’t missed out on one of those have I? Please send PM if I have.
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June 17, 2007 at 9:58 am #2596898
One would think so, but …
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to THAT could be VERY interesting
in fact, all that happens is that the posts look weird, but are very noticeable by the vertical space they occupy and the alias on the far left. Some such overcrowding occurs on the thread discussing the new ‘view all posts’ feature.
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June 17, 2007 at 1:36 pm #2583984
Only vestigially evidenced.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to One would think so, but …
Even in “View All” mode, the text of such posts are not visible.
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June 17, 2007 at 3:01 pm #2583966
just a sec…
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Only vestigially evidenced.
Really, the text isn’t visible? Hold on while I check that …
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June 17, 2007 at 3:05 pm #2583963
It looks like heonly put 1 mandatory character in this post, a .
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to just a sec…
But, there is text. Is this not what you meant?
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=222970&messageID=2242060
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June 17, 2007 at 6:31 pm #2583929
Go [u]1 level deeper[/u], to [u]my[/u] post, and …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It looks like heonly put 1 mandatory character in this post, a .
then go to “View All Posts.”
My post, in Reply to messageID=2242060, is [u]invisible[/u].
Then, in [u]either[/u] view, try to find my reply to my above said post.
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June 18, 2007 at 7:27 am #2583730
Eventually, it wraps
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Go [u]1 level deeper[/u], to [u]my[/u] post, and …
not sure about the all view option, but in the normal screen, it just keeps going and going an …..
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June 18, 2007 at 2:33 pm #2597452
Only on FF, where it wraps around.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Eventually, it wraps
On IE, it’s completely cloaked, with only the blank lines to hint at the presence of “something.”
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June 19, 2007 at 5:49 am #2597267
Sounds like just one more reason
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Only on FF, where it wraps around.
to not be using IE, huh? :p
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June 19, 2007 at 1:24 pm #2598142
TR [u]broke[/u] our [i]fix[/i]. :_|
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
[b]You cannot reply to this message[/b] is now the response. X-(
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June 19, 2007 at 6:39 pm #2598037
And you are surprised because?
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
As much as the hack has been abused, I’m surprised it took this look to patch it.
But far be it from me to point fingers……
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June 20, 2007 at 10:51 am #2597766
Who’s surprised? Certainly not me. I [u]am[/u] disappointed …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m sure [i]now[/i] that he [u]does not[/u] understand.
… that TR saw fit to devote resources, not to fixing any of the many problems that reduce the usability of this site, but to removing a functionality whose usage came, so far as I can tell, at no cost to them.
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June 15, 2007 at 10:48 am #2598582
Forgive my ignorance
by Anonymous · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Are you sure he understands?
But wasn’t what is now the Republican party actually called the Liberal party once upon a time? Or maybe it was Liberal Republican or somethig like that, mid-1800s?
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June 15, 2007 at 6:48 pm #2598334
You may be thinking of the 1872 party rift which gave rise to …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Forgive my ignorance
the “Liberal Republicans.”
Additionally, what is now known as the “Progessive Era”, from 1896-1932, was ushered in by McKinley’s election, and was, with the exception of 1912-1920, under Wilson, dominated by Republican Presidents.
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June 13, 2007 at 9:18 pm #2586178
Largely about PCs
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberal is a very common term
but I think they give fair play to servers, also.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:49 pm #2585400
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June 18, 2007 at 6:20 am #2583770
“Free” Site Services does not mean Free Speech
by skirsch · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberal is a very common term
Not to add to an incredibly stupid argument, and I’m sure this has been brought up already – I simply don’t have time enough or care to read 400+ replies to idiocy.
You DO NOT have the right to free speech on this site, no matter what you think. This site is owned and operated privately by CNET and TechRepublic and you use its services only after having the opportunity to view the Terms of Usage agreement (http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html?tag=tr.ft.co).
Even if you were to pay for the use of TechRepublic you would not have the right to free speech.
And since you’re not smart enough to read ToA’s/ToU’s and EULA’s, I figure your not smart enough to read the Constitution either:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”CONGRESS shall make no law – not that Companies, or Persons can make no law, or rule. Not that your freedom of speech is protected uniformly no matter what by the constitution — simply that CONGRESS shall make no law. Now who is the liberal, Mr I-want-blanket-immunity-from-my-own-vocal-idiocy.
And, as for the Terms of Usage from CNET:
“We have the right, but not the obligation, to take any of the following actions in our sole discretion at any time and for any reason without giving you any prior notice:1. Restrict, suspend, or terminate your access to all or any part of our Services;
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1. Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten, or otherwise violate the legal right of others;
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3. Transmit files that contain viruses, corrupted files, or any other similar software or programs that may damage or adversely affect the operation of another person’s computer, our sites, any software or hardware, or telecommunications equipment;
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8. Restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying any public area within our sites;
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13. Take any action that imposes an unreasonably or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure;
14. Engage in any illegal activities.”Any prolonged arguing on your part when you, of your own free will, chose to use these services and therefor entered into a binding legal agreement with CNET and its subsidiaries does, indeed, show the extreme level of ignorance you hold towards not just persons of another race, or nationality, or economic means – whatever your grievance might be – but also your level of ignorance simply concerning your own daily actions.
YOU broke the rules YOU agreed to. This is not a liberal/conservative debate or even a racial equality debate. You chose to come to this site to defame others, no matter how much of a “informative” package on visa’s and business practices you believe you wrapped said defamation in.
Yes, people can choose not to read it, but you can also chose not to use the services of a site that restricts your ability to express your way of thinking, and your political/economic and/or global views – via an agreement you willingly signed. YOU entered into this agreement of your own free will, YOU chose to use free services provided by a profit minded company, and YOU have the ability to exit from said contract if you wish.
Your OP Title is correct, Freedom of speech IS nonexistent here on TechRepublic. Learn to education yourself, Learn to be aware of the full particulars of agreements your enter into, and finally, Learn to understand that Freedom of Speech is not a universally applicable rule of life – considering it as such would be a rather liberal view, wouldn’t you say?
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June 18, 2007 at 11:12 am #2597553
A very detailed explaination, skirsch
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Free” Site Services does not mean Free Speech
But I would question how it is that someone that has been a member for a whole day would have that much invested in the site to care enough to write it?
Let me guess, a lurker that finally found something that pulled you off the fence? Everyone has that one key issue that sucks them in, was this yours?
[i](nothing wrong with lurkers, so please do not think that it was intended as some form of put-down.)
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June 18, 2007 at 12:27 pm #2597515
heh, neither a lurker or a newbie
by skirsch · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to A very detailed explaination, skirsch
I’ll admit I haven’t used TechRepublic in a bit, and overall this is probably my 3rd account on the site, and I’ve used the site on and off for 5 years or so in total… when one tends to move around a lot as well as have a tendency to drop external hard drives and lose data without a lot of personal backups, you tend to lose old passwords/accounts pretty regularly :-p
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June 18, 2007 at 1:46 pm #2597477
I knew it wasn’t a case of a newbie
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to heh, neither a lurker or a newbie
because you actually supported your statements, which is a CLASSIC newbie character flaw.
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June 18, 2007 at 11:16 am #2597547
Illiteracy and tech- not a marriage- (off topic)
by wkpickett0154 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Liberal is a very common term
I am always so amazed when folks can make some intelligent sentences but- due to not paying attention, lack of education- not sure- it’s Drivel- ‘talk foolishly’ and write, as in write letters…wkpickett0154@comcast.net (Looking for intelligent life that wants to do, be, and have more, so we can create a better humanity going forward…)
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June 12, 2007 at 2:51 pm #2584294
This is a business
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
And no, I’m not in any way shape or form affiliated with them…
The business has the right to edit anything they like.
They are not denying you free speech, you have the right to say whatever you want. They/the moderators, on the other hand, have the right to choose the kind of content they want on their website.
You don’t have the right to post anything here, and neither do I. Sorry, doesn’t exist.
TV stations and newspapers have the right to and often do refuse content and/or advertising on whatever grounds they see fit. Bars kick out obnoxious drunks. This website is the same.
You don’t deny TR the right to trim SPAM do you? Well they obviously judge some of your posts to be equally as undesireable.
If I thought they were censuring you because you were slagging Microsoft or something similar, I’d be on your side. But I don’t see that free speech extends to forcing private organizations to carry your opinions if they chose not to.
James
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June 12, 2007 at 3:00 pm #2584287
You need a clue – Another misunderstanding of “Freedom of Speech”
by maxwell edison · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
There is no “Freedom of Speech” within the confines of a private business. You take the term out of context and apply it incorrectly. You have absolutely no rights within the TR forums except those the owners wish to extend you.
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June 12, 2007 at 11:05 pm #2584165
right on the money Mr. E.
by tg2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You need a clue – Another misunderstanding of “Freedom of Speech”
You’re right on the Money Mr. Edison.. glad to see someone else can cut to the issue at hand shorting and nipping it as need be.
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June 13, 2007 at 9:15 pm #2586180
Ha-ha, sounds like ‘mystery’!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to right on the money Mr. E.
I never noticed that.
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June 13, 2007 at 1:23 pm #2586308
Dead on.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You need a clue – Another misunderstanding of “Freedom of Speech”
The terms “freedom of speech” and “censorship” are frequently misused in this country. You have the right to say, print, or otherwise distribute whatever you want, as long as it isn’t slander or libel. However, neither TR nor anyone else is obligated to provide you a forum. This is their site, subject to their whims.
It’s going to be difficult to determine why they edited you without copies of what you posted. Obviously its going to be equally difficult to include those examples here without them getting re-edited. If you’d like to send me a PM with some edited content, I’ll be happy to take a guess at why they pulled it. Since I’m not on the staff, a guess is all it will be.
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June 17, 2007 at 11:33 am #2596886
He needs [u]more[/u] than just a [u]clue[/u]!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You need a clue – Another misunderstanding of “Freedom of Speech”
Freedom of Speech belongs to the owner of a resource, for WMW’s complaint, the TechRepublic servers.
[i]There is no “Freedom of Speech” within the confines of a private business.[/i]
Yes, there is “Freedom of Speech” within the confines of a private business, but that freedom is reserved to the owners of that business, who may describe parameters for the use of their resources. I may not use my employer’s resources for personal gain outside the contractual scope of my employment and labor there, and I may not use their communications equipment for speech harmful to the interests of my employer, nor contrary to the stated parameters of permitted speech within the confines of their property. In general, speech that is not contrary to the business’ pursuit of profit nor prohibited by law (threats and incitement to panic or violence most notably, ie yelling “fire” in a crowded theater or work environment, when there is no fire) are permitted.
[i]You take the term out of context and apply it incorrectly. You have absolutely no rights within the TR forums except those the owners wish to extend you.[/i]
Generally, he has any rights [b]not prohibited[/b] explicitly by law nor by the owners of the forum. In this case, however, the terms of use of this business include a disclaimer of their privilege of arbitrary control:
[i]We have the right, but not the obligation, to take any of the following actions in our sole discretion at any time and for any reason without giving you any prior notice:
1. Restrict, suspend, or terminate your access to all or any part of our Services;
2. Change, suspend, or discontinue all or any part of our Services;
3. Refuse, move, or remove any material that you submit to our sites for any reason;
4. Refuse, move, or remove any content that is available on our sites;
5. Deactivate or delete your accounts and all related information and files in your account;
6. Establish general practices and limits concerning use of our sites.You agree that we will not be liable to you or any third party for taking any of these actions.[/i]
http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html?tag=tr.ft.co
To do so is within their rights — on their property.
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June 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm #2584286
First considerations
by mjd420nova · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
One of the first things I look at BEFORE reading an individuals posts is the date joined as that gives me a big clue as to whether I will even consider reading even the title, let alone the body of the post. Might you have tossed in a bit of spam or attempted to sell something?? I haven’t read any of your posts, and there was an individual with a very similar user name that was in the habit of flaming anything and everything that others expressed. AS was already stated, TR has the right to edit anything they wish, for any reason, at any time. That’s just the way it is and we all have to live with it, like it or not.
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June 12, 2007 at 3:31 pm #2584273
Well,
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
I don’t think that “freedom of speech” is being curtailed at all. I’ve made a couple of thousand posts about absolutely anything that I wanted over the last couple of years. I’ve got about as close to burning the US flag on some occasions as I can do without matches and not a single post has been pulled or edited. I’ve insulted anyone I wish exactly how I wish.
Most of the other peers – at least those who do get properly involved – can say the same.
So, I suggest you need to have a quick look in the mirror. You could even get yourself your own username rather than poncing off others. You’re a bit stupid, aren’t you? You can’t get by in any discussion without loudmouthing it and chucking insults around and what that makes you is really BORING. You’ve even come out with the classic “that someone has a choice of not reading my posts”. Tell you! We don’t WANT to read your posts and we’re all happy with Beth’s clean-up of your crap.
If I’m wrong, I invite all of your supporter (sic) to flame.
Neil
THIS post won’t be edited out. Betcha!
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June 12, 2007 at 3:52 pm #2584263
Bring it on…wanker!
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Well,
This is one dispute I won’t back down from.
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June 12, 2007 at 4:05 pm #2584259
You win. I’m overwhelmed by your rhetoric
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bring it on…wanker!
You just don’t get it, do you?
If you want to actually post something other than simple insults – something with a bit of substance – it would probably be a first; I might even reply. Might…
Until that happens, every post you make just nails what a shallow individual you are. This is not a dispute. This is fact.
“Wanker”? Get a life you sad, sad child.
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June 12, 2007 at 4:37 pm #2584247
Why don’t you read my other threads before you label me
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You win. I’m overwhelmed by your rhetoric
Oh how quick we are to judge though!
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June 14, 2007 at 9:01 am #2586643
The thing about Neil
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Why don’t you read my other threads before you label me
is he is an EXCELLENT judge of character, or in your case, LACK of character.
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June 12, 2007 at 7:39 pm #2584213
What’s so important about *this* dispute?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bring it on…wanker!
“This is one dispute I won’t back down from.”
There are plenty of sites that let you post any BS you like. What is so important about having your words appear [b]on TechRepublic[/b] that you “won’t back down from” [u]this[/u] dispute? If TR is so important that you won’t back down, isn’t it also so important that’s it’s worth abiding by the standards? I think so.
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June 13, 2007 at 1:37 pm #2586297
Why not back down? Why do you care what neilb thinks?
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bring it on…wanker!
“If my posts are offending someone, then that someone has a choice of not reading my posts.”
If neilb’s posts offend you, you have the choice to not read them. You expect him not to offend you, but you don’t care if you offend others. You can’t have it both ways without looking like a hypocrite.
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June 14, 2007 at 8:57 am #2586647
Back into maybe?
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bring it on…wanker!
You sound like you have backed into too many door knobs for your own good….
And why is it you choose to be a poor copy instead of standing up as your own account?
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June 12, 2007 at 4:02 pm #2584260
May Not Be TR Staff
by thechas · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
The root cause of your post being edited may not be directly tied to the staff of TR.
Unless the staff is a lot more people than I anticipate, and they have nothing to do but watch the forums, they just don’t have the time to read all the posts.
What is more apt to be happening is that some peer is offended by your posts and reports them to the TR staff. The TR staff then reviews the post and acts in what is the best interest of TR.
The most memorable instance of this was the thread the Guru Of DOS started a few years back on the prospects of what would happen if all of the spam offers of treatments for male enhancement he received over the course of a month could be added together. I missed out on most of the posts, but hear that things got well out of hand.
Even if you are using a pseudonym, it is wise on ANY public forum to control your language. You never know who might be able to trace it back to you.
Chas
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June 13, 2007 at 1:28 pm #2586303
“Male enhancement … got well out of hand”
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to May Not Be TR Staff
‘Nuff said.
I won’t be shocked if this post doesn’t survive.
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June 13, 2007 at 9:17 pm #2586179
You would!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Male enhancement … got well out of hand”
Or, do I mean ‘wood’?
I’d be slightly surprised if anybody objects to that post. I’ve seen much worse.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:24 am #2586555
I object
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You would!
to anyone objecting.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:24 am #2586554
I object
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You would!
to anyone objecting.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:38 pm #2585409
Objection overruled.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I object
You’re welcome to object to my ruling of course, but the OWNERS will decide whose objections they care to consider. It’s their property, not ours.
:p
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June 14, 2007 at 1:38 pm #2585408
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June 14, 2007 at 1:53 pm #2585394
I find them objectionable :D
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to and so
hee hee
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June 12, 2007 at 6:03 pm #2584235
You’re still here
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
I don’t see where you have been kicked off, and even if you have, TR has every right to do so. I do see where some of the more obnoxious name-calling has been edited out. And no, you haven’t been singled out.
Edit: Just based on this masterpiece of maturity (http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=222058&messageID=2249428), if I were the moderator, I’d block your ISP.
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June 12, 2007 at 6:32 pm #2584227
Sorry for getting ticked off, but I don’t appreciate having my posts edited
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You’re still here
because there is nothing in there that is so outrageous or offensive to warrant being edited
I think my posts are funny and sarcastic, but if some find them offensive, it’s their friggin problem!
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June 12, 2007 at 6:49 pm #2584225
Funny AND sarcastic?
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sorry for getting ticked off, but I don’t appreciate having my posts edited
Sarcastic is easy for most people. Funny takes some work. Getting them both right at the same time is extremely difficult. Apparently, somebody thinks you aren’t quite getting it right.
I understand how you feel about being edited as I’ve always hated it myself. But if it’s happening to the majority of your posts, you might consider cutting back somewhat on the rhetoric.
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June 12, 2007 at 7:02 pm #2584222
Perhaps I am too funny for my own good
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Funny AND sarcastic?
Oh well, the Imus crackdown is in full force here on TR from what I’m seeing…LOL.
Message was edited by: beth.blakely@…
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June 12, 2007 at 7:50 pm #2584208
Not funny enough.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps I am too funny for my own good
NOBODY is complaining about your posts because of stomach injuries suffered due to excessive laughter.
That was sarcastic AND funny. It IS a delicate balance, like Nick said. You could learn a lot from neilb on that score. Also HAL9000, sleepin’dawg, apotheon & sometimes OzMedia are masters.
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June 13, 2007 at 2:46 am #2584115
Well, if you came here looking for Imus, you’ve come to the wrong place.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps I am too funny for my own good
We’re a cut above him.
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June 13, 2007 at 4:10 am #2584094
Crackdown?
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps I am too funny for my own good
Yes, that’s possible. But if there is a “crackdown.” I suspect it’s less about political correctness and more about trying to decrease the rudeness coefficient on TR.
Edit: just finished browsing the remainder of this thread. Not a lot of maturity from either side of this one…
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June 13, 2007 at 12:27 pm #2586332
all ungood entries will be made upgood
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Crackdown?
plussungood oldspeak was noticed and upgraded. All references to unpersons now good.
doubleplussungood citizen WMW has been given plussgood retraining.
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June 14, 2007 at 12:27 am #2586142
Plus, only contains a single “s”
by mjwx · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to all ungood entries will be made upgood
What, with all the flaming I didn’t want to be left out 🙂
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June 14, 2007 at 2:10 pm #2585377
Oh, puhleeze!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to all ungood entries will be made upgood
Buy your own web server.
This is not your forum or WMW’s forum, and if any of your opinions are [b]not[/b] deleted, you may thank the owners for that. You just make yourself look like a ‘whiny little titty baby’ when you complain about the owners of TechRepublic refusing to waste their resources on opinions you like. There’s a vast Internet, and you have the right to waste [b]your[/b] resources, not anybody else’s, on expressing your worthless opinion.
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June 13, 2007 at 6:10 am #2584042
Free to be an ass on your own dime…
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps I am too funny for my own good
Let me ask you something.
If Imus had called your wife or your daughter a “Ho” on national radio, would you be upset?
If you owned Imus’ radio station/network, and you were worried about losing network sponsors – $$$, would you not want the right to decide what to broadcast on your own network?
If Imus, or you, want to create your own website and say whatever you want, go fill your boots, none of us can or would stop you.
If you want to play on someone else’s site, play by their rules, or go somewhere else.
I’ve never found you funny. I have found you bigoted and nasty. Now Dawg, he is funny (and scary sometimes).
James
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June 14, 2007 at 3:43 pm #2585317
Funny, that WMW hasn’t retorted back a single word since that…
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Free to be an ass on your own dime…
[i]Let me ask you something.
If Imus had called your wife or your daughter a “Ho” on national radio, would you be upset?[/i]
Uncomfortable with the fit of his own shoe on the opposite foot I suppose. Well done, James.
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June 14, 2007 at 5:54 pm #2585279
Beth gave him the boot, again.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Funny, that WMW hasn’t retorted back a single word since that…
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June 13, 2007 at 1:34 pm #2586300
“Their friggin problem”, not.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sorry for getting ticked off, but I don’t appreciate having my posts edited
“I think my posts are funny and sarcastic, but if some find them offensive, it’s their friggin problem!”
No, it’s TR’s problem, possibly every members’ problem, and to some extent your problem too. The TR business model, like so many web businesses, is to make money by providing advertising-supported content to a target market audience. If too many in that audience is offended by your posts, they’ll leave and not come back. Fewer eyeballs watching the ads, less money from the advertisers. Also, some advertisers do not want to be associated with some types of content. If enough advertisers pull their accounts, either because of low ad viewership or because they find the site offensive, no TR.
As to it being your problem, it’s a question of what you want from your membership. If all you’re looking for is a place to spout off, then you’re right: what others think is not your problem at all. On the other hand, if you’re at all concerned with having others here respect your opinion, or want to include your TR membership on a resume, you may want to express yourself differently. You can’t expect people to respect your opinion without you respecting theirs.
Consider trying to post without trying to be sarcastic. Sarcasm rarely elicits a positive response from others; it’s difficult to write sarcasm in writing without looking mean-spirited or contemptuous instead. It’s especially difficult to pull off if the only content in your post is a sarcastic remark devoid of supporting facts or opinions, just sarcasm for sarcasm’s sake. Look at some posts from TR members whose opinions you may value and see how often they’re sarcastic without providing additional information. Plus, it’s far more effective if you use it less and save it for occasions that truly deserve a cutting remark. Try presenting a reasoned position and slip the sarcasm in at the very end, you stupid dingleberry.
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June 12, 2007 at 7:25 pm #2584219
Freedom of Speech rights belong to the OWNERS of the site.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
They allow us to use their equipment, within their business, in pursuit of their profit. Anything we are allowed to say here, we are allowed on the assumption that it is helpful or neutral to that pursuit. If your posts are being edited, it is because they are deemed less than worthless, professionally speaking, not because they are “naughty”. Fuckwit.
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June 12, 2007 at 7:27 pm #2584218
Aw, gee, poor baby. If you made your points diplomatically like me…. ;)
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
and with a modicum of intelligence you might not be called to task and be edited. From what I’ve read of your drivel regarding the H-1B matter, you came off as a small minded, despicable, racist bigot and I’d bet my last dollar, that in your real life you don’t dare speak like that. If you talk the talk, you’ve got to be prepared to walk the walk but your kind doesn’t walk, it slithers.
For what it’s worth you’ve come off sounding like a gutless whiner who figures the anonymity of these forums gives you carte blanche to spew your childish hatred without fear of being called on it. You may think you have a razor sharp wit but from here I see you as a nitwit whose tongue and/or mind would probably be best used as toilet paper.
There were/are many points to consider on the H-1B topic; yours just aren’t amongst the ones worthy of consideration. Beth edited you??? Well TS. You got precisely what you deserved. Don’t like it??? Find somewhere else to pollute with your despicable, infantile garbage. If you fail to comprehend the intended insults here let me quote you:
[i][b] It’s like the loudmouths who complain about “offensive” TV or radio broadcasts. Hey morons, there’s something called a remote control and tuner knob to change the station or channel if you don’t like it.[/i][/b]
You tripped over your own dick and whining like a snot nosed, little titty baby, isn’t going to garner you any sympathy. TR has seen many of your kind before, a lot of punks just like you, over the years. It will continue to survive, with or without you and without you would be no great loss.
For what it’s worth, I have been deliberately and gratuitously insulting in regards to you, and I admit I’m pushing the envelope here. If Beth chooses to edit me, so be it but this is what the majority thinks of your little tantrum.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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June 12, 2007 at 7:33 pm #2584216
My my…aren’t we in a pissy mood today?
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Aw, gee, poor baby. If you made your points diplomatically like me…. ;)
Even I am too tired to write a long winded rant such as yours. What do you drink or eat to sustain the energy to write so much verbiage?
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June 12, 2007 at 7:46 pm #2584211
What??? Touched a sore spot and left you speechless? ;\
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to My my…aren’t we in a pissy mood today?
Your kind seldom have the guts
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June 12, 2007 at 8:14 pm #2584201
I’ll leave you kids to make bigger asses of yourselves than me
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What??? Touched a sore spot and left you speechless? ;\
I’ll take the silent approach from here on.
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June 12, 2007 at 10:28 pm #2584174
Aw!!! Boo hoo hoo hoo!!! Don’t go away mad; just go away!!! X-(
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’ll leave you kids to make bigger asses of yourselves than me
We’ll certainly try very hard not to miss you; not.
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June 12, 2007 at 10:46 pm #2584172
BTW you do realize you just called yourself as an ass!!! We all…….. :^0
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’ll leave you kids to make bigger asses of yourselves than me
agree whole heartedly. For the nonce making ourselves bigger than you will be a chore few here, will be willing to undertake. You may rest assured you remain the biggest ass extent.
Gee you wouldn’t be MrMiami in disguise now, would you??? I thought he was the biggest but you’ve definitely given him a run for his money in the [b][i][u]ASSHOL SWEEPSTAKES[/u][/i][/b]
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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June 16, 2007 at 7:45 pm #2597010
“today” ??
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to My my…aren’t we in a pissy mood today?
Looks to me like you found him in one of his better moods!
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June 12, 2007 at 7:59 pm #2584204
“diplomatically”
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Aw, gee, poor baby. If you made your points diplomatically like me…. ;)
:^0
You are too much!
[i]You tripped over your on dick and whining like a snot nosed, little titty baby, isn’t going to garner you any sympathy. TR has seen many of your kind before, a lot of punks just like you, over the years. It will continue to survive, with or without you and without you would be no great loss.[/i]
What diplomat is that, the ambassador to Iraq the week before the invasion began?
Well said, by the way.
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June 13, 2007 at 1:21 am #2584144
WOW
by jackofalltech · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Aw, gee, poor baby. If you made your points diplomatically like me…. ;)
I personally would have chosen more polite words but my intent would have been the same. Bravo.
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June 14, 2007 at 9:11 am #2586636
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June 15, 2007 at 6:00 pm #2598347
Dawg
by michael jay · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Aw, gee, poor baby. If you made your points diplomatically like me…. ;)
Always the master of understatement.
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June 13, 2007 at 2:15 am #2584128
umm..ya..like they said
by shellbot · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
i’ve had stuff pulled and edited..so what..big deal.
i’ve had people say they don’t like what i say..big deal.
I’m all growed up and can take it..
its a website dude..if its hurting you that much..move along and don’t let the door hit yer @ss on the way out
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June 13, 2007 at 2:36 am #2584120
Guess you didn’t get the message; “ass” [u]is[/u] PC at TR.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to umm..ya..like they said
]:)
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June 13, 2007 at 4:10 am #2584092
i nkow i know..
by shellbot · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Guess you didn’t get the message; “ass” [u]is[/u] PC at TR.
its just pure habit at this stage..got used to it being replaced, and can’t do it in emails at work..so..
if anything i’m consistant 🙂
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June 13, 2007 at 1:53 pm #2586288
“B!tch” probably is too, but
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Guess you didn’t get the message; “ass” [u]is[/u] PC at TR.
if I let myself use @ss and b!tch here, I may wind up dropping them in somewhere I don’t want to.
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June 13, 2007 at 4:20 pm #2586236
Are you admitting to a lack of self control? :0
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “B!tch” probably is too, but
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June 13, 2007 at 2:19 am #2584126
So, you’ve been here a mere 12 days, & already you’ve pissed off enough …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
people that your posts are regularly being flagged by viewers as Spam? Seems to me that the message is quite clear; you’ve made a very bad first impression.
TR is like the local watering hole, where nobody has to like the newcomer; it’s up to him to fit in. If he can & does, fine; if not, that’s fine to, and no tears shed when he leaves.
The ball’s in your court; the game is your’s to lose.
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June 13, 2007 at 6:12 am #2584040
I’ve been here for over a year, but TR canned my old account
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to So, you’ve been here a mere 12 days, & already you’ve pissed off enough …
I guess I offended too many foreigners with their H1-Bs’.
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June 13, 2007 at 8:57 am #2586434
And, are you doing the same things?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’ve been here for over a year, but TR canned my old account
If so, are you expecting different results while doing the same things?
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June 13, 2007 at 2:00 pm #2586285
No everyone you offend is a foreigner in the U.S. with a visa.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’ve been here for over a year, but TR canned my old account
TR has members in many countries. They can find you offensive without residing in the U.S. For those in the U.S., a visa isn’t required; native-born U.S. citizens have as much right to find you offensive as immigrants and guest workers.
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June 15, 2007 at 2:02 pm #2598399
From looking at all of this…
by mr.wiz · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No everyone you offend is a foreigner in the U.S. with a visa.
many of us find him offensive, wherever we come from.
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June 13, 2007 at 4:13 pm #2586240
Looks like you didn’t get the message. :_|
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’ve been here for over a year, but TR canned my old account
You got your ass booted out & thought that with new clothes alone you could return to a warm welcome.
Did it not occur to you that your voice, left unaltered, would be your undoing?
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June 13, 2007 at 2:24 am #2584124
Why You Worry ??
by tony hopkinson · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Seeing as you were censored before I had the opportunity to be offended and to be fair offensive back, there’s no way I can comment on whether I would have found it offensive.
If you do offend me I will tell you, then it’s down to you whether you continue to do so or amend your behaviour.
This however is TR’s site, if they don’t like what you say they do have the right to stop it being said, whether it’s you, me, George Ou, Maxwell or any f’cker else.
Their ‘house’, their rules.
If they censor you don’t rail about your freedom of speech, reply and reword.
If someone was to say most US criminals aren’t white. If they said that as a piece of supporting evidence in a diatribe on caucasian racial superiority, many would find that sort of racist drivel deeply offensive.
If they said it as supporting evidence for continuing discrimination, some would find the pinko, liberal hand wringing eqyually offensive as well.
Perhaps you could put “warning offensive material in post” in the subject line, that way we could choose not to read.
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June 13, 2007 at 2:43 am #2584117
We’ve a saying in the Navy.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Go see the Chaplain about getting your TS card punched.
It’s good advice; and, for you, absolutely free.
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June 13, 2007 at 2:02 pm #2586284
Funny, we had the same saying in the Army. (no text)
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to We’ve a saying in the Navy.
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June 13, 2007 at 4:17 pm #2586237
Truly good advice is universal!
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Funny, we had the same saying in the Army. (no text)
To bad that it’s reserved for those in uniform.
😉
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June 13, 2007 at 7:06 am #2584007
Racism will not be tolerated
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Why Me Worry published hateful, rude, insensitive remarks regarding Indians on the site. I sent him an email saying that would not be tolerated. He responded by posting dozens of horrid posts, each one worse than the last. THEN I kicked him off the site. Then he used about 20 different user names to post more racist tripe. I edited and kicked them all out. Then he came back with a similar user name (with two question marks) and behaved for a few days. But, of course, he couldn’t be a good boy. He went back to his obsessive posting about how he hates Indian people. (Calling people RACIST SLURS has nothing to do with your political beliefs.) I expect, since I kicked him yesterday, he’ll be back with another bunch of random one-use user names to post his opinions. Whatever. You guys know how to use the Mark as Spam button. Anything racist is subject to removal so click it!
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June 13, 2007 at 7:24 am #2583997
Gee Beth, does that apply to whining snot nosed, little titty baby bigots??
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Racism will not be tolerated
😉 :^0
Just pushing the envelope a bit.[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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June 13, 2007 at 7:29 am #2583994
Oh…so now you chime in? How was I being racist?
by why me worry?? · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Racism will not be tolerated
All I stated was the truth about the living conditions of Indians who are here on H1-B visa and how in MY experiences, I have found their attitudes to be rude and obnoxious. Please explain to me where you found the racist remarks in that statement or who am I offending by expressing an opinion? Perhaps you need to read the entire post and ponder it a bit before you and other overly sensitive whiners go labeling me as racist or whatever else.
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June 13, 2007 at 11:53 am #2586346
Boy, talk about being disingenuous? You came off like someone………….
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh…so now you chime in? How was I being racist?
who takes the bedsheets with them when they get up to go burn a cross on someone’s lawn. That little comment was how I used to refer to the KKK idiots and when I read comments like yours I can see the levels of hatred and bile are still high, just refocussed slightly to be more inclusive of other races.
The fact that you can’t see or understand this pretty much says it all. Norrow minded mental midgets such as yourself need to be isolated so that your hatred doesn’t fester and breed. You finding Indians rude and obnoxious, I find very difficult to believe, unless, of course, you were the one being rude and obnoxious to start with. I guess you just don’t like anyone who is slightly different from you in colour and/or culture.
Your levels of bile and hatred usually indicates an individual with esteem and identity problems coupled with paranoid delusions of grandeur. There’s nothing grand about you and I can only hope you crawl back under the rock you came out from under.
As was pointed out by the majority, TR is a business and the people running it police it accordinly. Beth is/was only doing her job and from this seat she’s doing a damn fine job of it.
Now, not to be impolite, bugger off and stop bothering the adults.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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June 14, 2007 at 9:17 am #2586629
He is just upset, Dawg
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Boy, talk about being disingenuous? You came off like someone………….
After he spent all of his lunch money on “member enlargement” products that he gets in his email, and still has to wait till the stream starts to know where to grab…..
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June 13, 2007 at 4:28 pm #2586232
“overly sensitive whiners ” – Isn’t that a bit self-descriptive?
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh…so now you chime in? How was I being racist?
:^0
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June 15, 2007 at 2:06 pm #2598398
A “true” racist never
by mr.wiz · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh…so now you chime in? How was I being racist?
sees himself as one. You know if you’re the only one who sees things your way and everyone else has a different view, maybe you should take a step back and look at yourself.
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June 13, 2007 at 8:10 am #2586467
I share your opinion
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Racism will not be tolerated
And I will readily admit I did hit the spam button on at least one of his posts. Of course I can’t quote them now…
When he came on with the Indian sounding name that was the last straw…that was clearly racist.
Beth, you are doing a fine job.
James
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June 13, 2007 at 8:18 am #2586458
Thanks James
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I share your opinion
And, I’ll repeat: Calling people RACIST SLURS has nothing to do with your political beliefs.
That’s all I’m saying on this subject. Actions speak louder than words.
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June 13, 2007 at 2:08 pm #2586281
Beth, you’re driving me nuts.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Thanks James
I’m trying to figure out what terms he used. I know some slurs for Middle Easterners in general, but none specific to Indians. I feel like my education is being neglected.
Oh, wait; I’m over it. Thanks, and carry on.
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June 13, 2007 at 4:26 pm #2586234
The Button is our friend.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Racism will not be tolerated
While there is much about the site design & its functionality, or lack thereof, that drives us nuts, the addition of the “Button” stands in sharp contrast.
And, it’s good to know that community input in this regard is sufficiently valued so as to warrant action.
Thanks.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:38 am #2586545
Thank You For Editing
by wayne m. · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Racism will not be tolerated
I prefer moderated sites. Although I wish everyone was able to discuss issues civilly and we did not have content edited, the reality is that some are unable to, or unwilling to, meet this simple standard.
I continue to trust the staff at Tech Republic to excericse appropriate editorial control. I am grateful for this and Beth and staff have my support in continuing to maintain a site that is both informative and fun.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:37 pm #2585411
You just made my day
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Thank You For Editing
Thanks.
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June 15, 2007 at 11:00 am #2598577
Beth…
by Anonymous · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Racism will not be tolerated
You really need to control your racist attitude toward racists. Actually It probably isn’t PC to call them racists, you should probably refer to them as ‘mentally special’ or ‘socially challenged’ . 😉
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June 13, 2007 at 8:29 am #2586453
To all…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
WMW’s posts weren’t nearly as nasty as some of the replies to him have been.
I can certainly understand his consternation.
If you want this matter to drop, let him vent and be done with it.
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June 13, 2007 at 8:58 am #2586433
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June 13, 2007 at 9:35 am #2586412
And the dogpile is helping matters how?
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Pehaps you haven’t read all his posts
Assuming the worst about him, all this dogpile is doing is convincing him he’s right.
That, and turning this place into a slugfest rather than an IT forum.
He’s gotten a slapdown from TR and lost his old account.
He’s peeved now.
Remember the good old days of USENET when we used to cal a P.I.S.S. on someone?
What’s he going to do? Argue with himself?
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June 13, 2007 at 10:10 am #2586397
A time and a place for everything
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to And the dogpile is helping matters how?
If Why worry was simply annoying, I wouldn’t bother.
And I don’t dogpile on many political discussions especially if its the same old democrats suck/republicans suck song that just seems to endlessly repeat.
I come from usenet, and before that BBSs. My inroduction was alt.folklore.urban, when dogpiling is a way of life.
I will tell you why this one bothers me. Racism. Now I am a white anglo saxon protestant male, so I have little stake in the game. But a wise person taught me not to ignore racism, because turning a blind eye to it helps it grow.
I don’t think any of us have an impact on how he conducts himself, or he would have left long ago and not come back. Maybe if enough people call him out, he might just finally take the hint.
James
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June 13, 2007 at 11:17 am #2586367
Prejudice, Biggotry, and Racism
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to A time and a place for everything
are three different things.
Too often the first two are labeled the third.
In fact, I have reletives who could never tell you about the third, if you get my drift.
Still,
at this point, what is being served?
What can possibly be said to him that hasn’t been said already?
He’s not continuing, so he’s obviously ended the behavior.
Should we take him into the public square for a flogging?
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June 13, 2007 at 11:42 am #2586353
What’s all this ruckus about anyway? I honestly pity the guy
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Prejudice, Biggotry, and Racism
Perhaps he has had nothing but negative experiences with Indians and has formed a stereotypical image of an entire culture based upon a few bad apples. Come on now, we all do this from time to time and not one of us can honestly say that we don’t label, judge, or stereotype people based upon the experiences we encounter. Case in point, a good friend of mine was robbed at gunpoint by a group of young thugs, probably gang bangers, who all happened to be black and Hispanic. My friend started ranting about how all blacks and Hispanics are criminals and started spewing racially charged epithets and slurs at an entire ethnic group over the actions of a few punks. Is it wrong for him to have behaved this way? Sure it was, but given the circumstances, people who are constantly victimized or subjected to a constant behavior from certain people will resort to bigoted and racially charged rhetoric and behavior…whether or not others like it.
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June 13, 2007 at 12:28 pm #2586331
I’m sure the gentle correction has changed his opinion
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s all this ruckus about anyway? I honestly pity the guy
NOT.
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June 13, 2007 at 3:22 pm #2586260
“Is it wrong for him to have behaved this way?”
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s all this ruckus about anyway? I honestly pity the guy
“Sure it was”. ‘Nuff said both for your friend and for Why??. Especially given that your “excuse” for your friend of constant victimisation doesn’t apply to him and, I suspect, to Why?? either.
I’m white but I’m neither Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant in a WASP culture so although racism doesn’t directly affect me yet, it may at some stage. I’d rather we not get into a social mind-set where any sort of racism doesn’t immediately attract censure or is even deemed acceptable.
Neil 🙂
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June 13, 2007 at 4:43 pm #2586228
Let him be pitied in private.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s all this ruckus about anyway? I honestly pity the guy
We are neither his support group nor his psychoanalyst.
And, we are certainly not his close friends.
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June 13, 2007 at 12:02 pm #2586343
Hmmmmmm! Now there’s a thought!!! :0
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Prejudice, Biggotry, and Racism
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June 13, 2007 at 4:39 pm #2586229
Re. “He’s not continuing, so he’s obviously ended the behavior”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Prejudice, Biggotry, and Racism
To the contrary, he’s continued the same behavior here, by repeatedly mention of such, with the clear intent to defend it as being both justified and “protected speech.”
By demanding that we allow him to here speak as he wishes, he’s evidenced that he’s neither changed nor intends to attempt to change.
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June 14, 2007 at 5:48 am #2586761
Are you bringing the tar, or the feathers.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Re. “He’s not continuing, so he’s obviously ended the behavior”
Or would you prefer to have him shot?
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June 14, 2007 at 1:55 pm #2585393
Neither.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Are you bringing the tar, or the feathers.
I prefer that he simply go away.
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June 13, 2007 at 4:34 pm #2586230
Re. “Argue with himself?”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to And the dogpile is helping matters how?
That’s for him to decide.
What [b]is[/b] for [b]us[/b] to decide is whether or not he’s welcome to spew his venom here.
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June 14, 2007 at 5:49 am #2586760
Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Re. “Argue with himself?”
Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
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June 14, 2007 at 6:00 am #2586750
“Shoot the duck! Shoot the duck!”
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
DD: Let’s try that again, shall we?
BB: Okay. Do you want to shoot him now or take him home?
DD: Ah ha! Pronoun trouble. It’s not, “Do you want to shoot HIM now?”, it’s “Do you want to shoot ME now?”. Well, I say, “SHOOT ME NOW!”
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June 14, 2007 at 6:14 am #2586739
Is there any reason
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Shoot the duck! Shoot the duck!”
Why all I can think of is Elmer Fudd singin
“Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit” ??
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June 14, 2007 at 6:23 am #2586734
Monitor wipes – – – tissues! quick!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Shoot the duck! Shoot the duck!”
Crying with laughter, splurted all over the keyboard and monitor!
Ok, who’s got the monitor wipes this time? Pass em over here, please….
(My “new girl” now thinks that not only have I lost the plot, I was never really in possession of it in the first place……)
:p
GG
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June 14, 2007 at 6:58 am #2586721
Well
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Shoot the duck! Shoot the duck!”
She would be right wouldn’t she?? hee hee ]:)
Just invite her over let her see what all the fun is about 😀
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June 14, 2007 at 7:11 am #2586716
Love the LT heference. :D
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Shoot the duck! Shoot the duck!”
[audio src="http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/daffy/Daffy04.wav" /]
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June 14, 2007 at 7:16 am #2586714
What’s Opera Doc?
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
Kill the wabbit
Kill the wabbit
Kill the wabbit
Kill the wabbitYo ho to-ho
Yo ho to-ho
Yo ho to-ho
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June 14, 2007 at 7:25 am #2586709
Oh Bwuhnilda, you’we so wovewy.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s Opera Doc?
Yes, I know it; I can’t help it.
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June 14, 2007 at 10:06 am #2586599
*shrugs* *carries off dead wabbit*
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s Opera Doc?
What did you expect? A happy ending?
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June 14, 2007 at 1:59 pm #2585389
Ceasing to be funny.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What’s Opera Doc?
Get a new keyboard.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:57 pm #2585392
Keyboard stuck?
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dogpile on the rabbit, Dogpile on the rabbit!!!
New ones are quite cheap these days.
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June 14, 2007 at 2:00 pm #2585386
yup yup
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Keyboard stuck?
yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup
yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup
yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup
yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup yup😀
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June 14, 2007 at 2:58 pm #2585343
This, from the same alias posting references to Orwell’s ‘1984’?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to And the dogpile is helping matters how?
One of us needs a magnet, and I’m honestly not sure which.
Is the irony deliberate?
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June 15, 2007 at 6:01 am #2585116
If a felon comitts a felony
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to This, from the same alias posting references to Orwell’s ‘1984’?
G_D must therefore be an iron.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:51 pm #2598333
What if a [u]non[/u]-felon commits a felony?
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If a felon comitts a felony
?:|
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June 15, 2007 at 6:52 pm #2598332
edit: posted question about “G_D” in reply to wrong poster
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What if a [u]non[/u]-felon commits a felony?
That was Richard_RPU’s term, not deepsand’s.
I think Richard has skeedaddled, and now this crucial inquiry will never be addressed. Pfft, who gives a damn?
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June 16, 2007 at 2:44 pm #2597065
Then, it would cease to [u]non-be[/u] a felon …
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What if a [u]non[/u]-felon commits a felony?
You were only attempting to point out the redundancy of the phrase, weren’t you?
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June 16, 2007 at 7:24 pm #2597018
Absolutely correct!
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Then, it would cease to [u]non-be[/u] a felon …
And, by [u]ceasing[/u] to be in a state of [u]non-being[/u] a [u]felon[/u], it would [u]become[/u] a state of [u]non-being[/u] a [u]non-felon[/u].
Where’s Zealot when he’s most apt to feel right at home?
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June 17, 2007 at 11:39 am #2596882
Absence of proof does not constitute proof of absence.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Absolutely correct!
[i]Where’s Zealot when he’s most apt to feel right at home?[/i]
Your question implies a possibly false premise, that he is not right here amongst us. There are, after all, 3 or more aliases here gathered. Who [b]knows[/b]?
🙂
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June 17, 2007 at 1:33 pm #2583986
Presence vs overt participation.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Absence of proof does not constitute proof of absence.
Indeed, he may be “present” by virtue of his observing this thread. He may even be participating; but, [u]not overtly[/u] under said alias.
Who [b]cares[/b]?
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June 18, 2007 at 11:23 am #2597543
chicken and egg question
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What if a [u]non[/u]-felon commits a felony?
Does the person become a felon at the time of the act, or at the time he/she is caught and convicted?
Like O.J. Simpson, found not-guilty, (provided he really did it, ~cough cough~ ) would still be a felon despite not being a CONVICTED felon?
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June 18, 2007 at 3:34 pm #2597428
[u]Presumed[/u] felon would be more accurate.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to chicken and egg question
“Felon” has a specific legal definition; and, absent a conviction, one is not legally a felon.
Therefore, one can but presume that, given [u]all[/u] pertinent facts, a conviction could be obtained.
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June 16, 2007 at 2:41 pm #2597067
…such as misspelling “commit” ?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If a felon comitts a felony
What is “G_D” ? Anybody?
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June 16, 2007 at 7:27 pm #2597015
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June 17, 2007 at 11:48 am #2596880
I should have recognized the abbreviation.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to GOD.
It’s like [i]Deja Vu Part II[/i].
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June 17, 2007 at 1:27 pm #2583987
Still unanswered, though, is why he felt it necessary to use such.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I should have recognized the abbreviation.
Particularly when not all are aware of its use currently be in vogue.
Was this simply an unwarranted assumption of his part? Or, was it the case that he hoped that its meaning would cause confusion?
Odd, too, that one who claims to be old enough to have participated in the pre-net on-line world should choose to use a term coined by Gen Y.
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June 13, 2007 at 12:44 pm #2586323
“Like Deja vu all over again” – Yogi Berra
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
[b]After reading all of the posts in this incredibly long diatribe, I couldn’t help but feel I had heard it all before…[/b]
After years in many other forums, The appeal that TR had and has is that its members are primarily made up of like-minded professionals that have some direct or indirect relationship to computer tech.
The opportunity to help people with technical issues, learn new things and communicate directly with others in my field was what brought me here.
There are hundreds of the stereo-typical forums that are filled with many members that have their own agenda to pound home. I remember being somewhat guilty of that myself at one time or another. But I grew out of that long ago.The fact that you are crying freedom of speech is something I have heard all too many times before. Nothing new. In fact… it reminds me of an article written in 2001 by Timothy Campbell titled “What is a Troll?”
If you have never read it, you owe it to yourself to check it out. Perhaps it will hit home or, like it did for me, provide a distinct echo.
Specifically the section titled; ‘What about Free Speech?’
[b]http://tinyurl.com/23t6rf[/b]now… let’s move on.
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June 14, 2007 at 9:54 pm #2585219
I still can’t clearly recall my 1st deja vu experience
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Like Deja vu all over again” – Yogi Berra
:^0
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June 14, 2007 at 11:37 pm #2585204
It was the same as the most recent one.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I still can’t clearly recall my 1st deja vu experience
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June 14, 2007 at 3:48 am #2586808
Reference links?
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Seriously, I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Of course TR can edit out anything they’d like as Max said so succinctly but where have you been “censored”?
I create a post in OO.o then paste it into a reply so I have record of the crap I post sometimes. If you’ve done that please feel free to send me peermail and I’ll see if I can guess why TR edited and get back to you. I’m hard to shock so any content you’d send would be okay and I never post email content, anywhere.
I thought that I might be booted for some of my own drivel but that hasn’t happened and I don’t think that it will happen. Some folks seem to have difficulty viewing my latest discussion but I can hardly lay blame for that on TR’s doorstep. I find that a page “reload” often works just fine if I get an error. There are so many browsers and add-ons/security settings that it’s hard to say why any particular pc can’t “do” any given task online
I try not to post slanderous and inflammatory appearing comments unsupported by facts or evidence. I got a well deserved TR smackdown for not posting reference links a couple of years ago and the lesson still sticks with me. In other words if I call a spade a spade I show that I have reason to believe it’s a spade and not something else.
I’m about as politically incorrect a person as you’ll find at TR and to my knowledge I’ve never been edited out by anyone at TR. I’ve edited myself “out” but if you take a look at my contacts you’ll see that there are some heavy hitters there, some of whom would no doubt report my drivel as offensive if they thought they were offended.
Awaiting peermail…
Edited because heference isn’t really a word.
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June 14, 2007 at 4:36 am #2586794
“Heference” is indeed a word.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Reference links?
But you misspelled it. When you apply for a job at a daily, you submit your resume and a list of cows you’ve previously worked with; your “heiferences”.
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June 14, 2007 at 5:07 am #2586777
oh..i’ve got those
by shellbot · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Heference” is indeed a word.
my last boss was a real cow.. but she’s a good heifernece
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June 14, 2007 at 5:11 am #2586776
Heference……
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “Heference” is indeed a word.
is what you keep your heffalumps held behind…….
GG
]:)
:p
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June 14, 2007 at 5:32 am #2586770
I thought you kept your heffalumps
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Heference……
behind a brassiere.
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June 14, 2007 at 5:36 am #2586767
Eek! by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I thought you kept your heffalumps
You looked!
😀
GG
]:)
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June 14, 2007 at 5:51 am #2586758
In Heference
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to
Eek! to your hefalumps, I think they are bovine. …and I mean that as a cowpliment.
But, you’ve probably herd that all before.
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June 14, 2007 at 6:05 am #2586748
I cown’t stand it.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to In Heference
Commenting on her heffalumps is unbelievabully vulgar and udderly sexist.
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June 14, 2007 at 6:11 am #2586743
Jeez
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I cown’t stand it.
Who would of known that one speeling mistake could cause all this!! Unless of course GG is suffering from Thursdayitis!! 😉
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June 14, 2007 at 9:37 am #2586620
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June 14, 2007 at 7:30 am #2586702
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June 14, 2007 at 6:19 am #2586736
Mooooooo-ve over!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to
Eek! You’re all just milking this one!
beef-ore this gets udderly outta hand, I’ll pat it back to the Cap’n…. 😀 :p
Stef – ok, where da webcam? How you know I have Thursdayitis?!
Cap’n – if the sun’s over the yardarm, have your daily ration on me – I enjoyed that one!
GG
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June 14, 2007 at 6:55 am #2586722
C’mon GG
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Mooooooo-ve over!
I know you well enough to read 2 of your posts and find out if you have the “itis” for that day 😀
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June 14, 2007 at 7:58 am #2586682
dashbinitall……
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Mooooooo-ve over!
Stef, I thought it would have taken more than two…..
Having said that, there are two people on this board who could “name that tune in one!”
😀 :p
GG
]:)
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June 14, 2007 at 9:40 am #2586619
Heffalumps??? Boy am I behind the times!!! After all these years……. ;)
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Mooooooo-ve over!
I can’t help calling them [b][i]”Fun Bags”[/b][/i]. I must be getting way too old but in my defence; while some guys are real[b]Titt Idiots[/b] I’m kinda [b]Bum Dumb[/b] :^0
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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June 14, 2007 at 5:38 am #2586765
isn’t that
by shellbot · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I thought you kept your heffalumps
where ya go to get a nice meal??
]:)
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June 14, 2007 at 3:43 pm #2585316
Makes sense
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Heference……
What do you do with the Woozles?
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June 15, 2007 at 8:50 am #2598509
I was wondering where you were.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Makes sense
I knew the resident Poohaphile would have something to say on this topic.
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June 15, 2007 at 3:23 pm #2598381
They made me work this week
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I was wondering where you were.
And last week too! And I will just bet that they will want me to work NEXT week as well!
Oh the inhumanity! *sob*
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June 15, 2007 at 9:15 am #2598496
Heh! Heh! Heh!
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Makes sense
They get cleaned up by the Woomba
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June 15, 2007 at 3:26 pm #2598379
Not Woozles
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Heh! Heh! Heh!
As you clearly don’t recall your Winnie the Pooh, Heffalumps and Woozles are the bad dreams you have when it is a blustery night, you’re all alone, and you’re thinking of a snack.
Then you get visits from bouncy Tiggers. Then your night is pretty much shot.
It’s all in the book.
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June 15, 2007 at 4:20 pm #2598360
Oh. Yeah
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Not Woozles
Had lunch at Scotch Buck’s and had an extra shot with my coffee. Must have gotten carried away by the punishing discussion that preceded my post.
Time to get my Tao back.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:48 pm #2598335
Getting your Tao back :)
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh. Yeah
“Those who have no compassion have no wisdom. Knowledge, yes; cleverness, maybe; wisdom, no. A clever mind is not a heart. Knowledge doesn’t really care. Wisdom does.”
“When you wake up in the morning, Pooh,” said Piglet at last, “what’s the first thing you say to yourself?”
“What’s for breakfast? said Pooh. “What do you say, Piglet?”
“I say, I wonder what’s going to happen exciting today?” said Piglet.
Pooh nodded thoughtfully.
“It’s the same thing,” he said.“Lots of people talk to animals,” said Pooh.
“Not that many listen though.”
“That’s the problem.”Piglet sidled up to Pooh from behind, “Pooh!,” he whispered.
“Yes, Piglet?”
“Nothing,” said Piglet, taking Pooh’s paw. “I just wanted to be sure of you.”
(thanks, Mick)“Rabbit’s clever,” said Pooh thoughtfully.
“Yes,”said Piglet, “Rabbit’s clever.”
“And he has Brain.”
“Yes,” said Piglet, “Rabbit has Brain.”
There was a long silence.
“I suppose,” said Pooh, “that that’s why he never understands anything.”In the imagination of a child, everything is real and understandable and achievable. It is only with the passage from childhood to adulthood that this is irrevocably lost. – TiggerTwo
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June 15, 2007 at 9:05 pm #2598308
In the imagination of a child
by michael jay · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Getting your Tao back :)
I saw this passion in my kids, and now in my grandchildren. Life moves forward and never back.
Kinda sad, but posts like yours make my day.
Pass the eye wipes.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:49 am #2586541
Kewl-THIS one reply/post I made goes 15 deep
by ontheropes · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Reference links?
in just a matter of a few hours while…
Nevermind.
(cue in the violin music)(cue in the fire)
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June 14, 2007 at 9:22 am #2586627
poor Palmetto…….
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
He must be knocked just about senseless after the troll feeding that has been going on in here….. :0
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June 14, 2007 at 9:44 am #2586614
I don’t think it’s the usual sort of troll (plus edits)
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to poor Palmetto…….
WhyMeWorry had been around for over a year as a normal peer (whatever THAT means for THIS site!) :p
He’s not been reamed before now but he just seems to have fallen over the edge one day, got his main account canned by Beth for racist comments and then got his new account jumped all over by the Usual Suspects when he came back for a moan about it.
Seems that H-1B visas for Indians is his blue touchpaper.
Just goes to show that there are times when you need to back off, chill, have a curry and a pint of Cobra!
Neil 😀
I know I gave him a bit of a kicking back up aways but I think that he’s one of those people with a real blind spot for how he comes over at times. It is possible to resurrect yourself on here but he has got to tone down the racism and – maybe – crawl a bit.
I suspect that I won’t lose sleep over it.
By the way, I never asked. I knew that Dwarf and Blackadder would go down well but how did you and the Things get on with the League of Gentlemen?
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June 14, 2007 at 10:05 am #2586600
No gentlemen here…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I don’t think it’s the usual sort of troll (plus edits)
Just a bunch of people enjoying berating an individual.
It’s funny.
Given the fact that most of us in IT are introverts, and many of us were the subject of ‘dogpiles’ growing up, it amazes me that a little more lattitude not be granted towards folks who mispeak.
We’ve probably got a few folks in here with Asperger’s syndrome as well. Some people with AS make Rosie O’Donnel look like the poster girl for tact and taste.
(now before anyone gets all over MY backside, I have AS myself)
C’mon now.
The response to WMW has been WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of preportion, which leads me to believe that some folks in here are just enjoying the opportunity to attack someone.
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June 14, 2007 at 10:11 am #2586594
WTF are you on about :D
by tony hopkinson · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No gentlemen here…
Attack people for fun on TR.
Surely not.
You’ll be suggesting some people continue to make contentious posts on the same off topic in order to rant at them next. 😀
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June 14, 2007 at 10:15 am #2586592
With all due respect, Richard…
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No gentlemen here…
You very obviously didn’t see what he wrote before it was edited. I have utter faith that if you had you would gladly feed him to the dogs.
I’ve been dealing with this joker for over a month now. I tried to handle the matter privately to avoid this very situation. Unfortunately, WMW couldn’t be persuaded to behave by my very professional private email.
He chose instead to up the ante by wreaking havoc on the community under several (like 20 or so) assumed identities and to insult a particular race of people over and over and over. It was hate speech, pure and simple.
Now I’ve alerted “the regulars” by entering into this discussion to help me combat this sucker. Why? Because it’s YOUR community that he’s affecting.
I suggest that if you don’t like what’s going on here you just take your own advice and quit beating a dead horse. We understand your perspective.
Or not. Whatever!
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June 14, 2007 at 10:21 am #2586587
Beth, I think Richard is still stinging from a previous thread
by faradhi · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to With all due respect, Richard…
He was jumped on pretty quickly and viciously because of a post that was considered insensitive by others. The response may have been disproportionate to the offense but he hit a nerve on others and myself.
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June 14, 2007 at 10:24 am #2586583
Ah! That makes sense
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Beth, I think Richard is still stinging from a previous thread
Thanks for the possible explanation. I totally understand. You guys can be vicious! 😉
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June 14, 2007 at 10:44 am #2586575
Another point Beth
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah! That makes sense
I think he missed the part about this not being a single incident, but, as you said, going on for a month with multiple accounts AND attempts by you to let him know what is and isn’t acceptable in this community.
It is a slightly different case when you actually know something?
AttaGirl. Keep up the good work. We see and appreciate it. 😡
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June 14, 2007 at 12:26 pm #2586522
Vicious us??
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah! That makes sense
I think you got the wrong people!! 😀
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June 14, 2007 at 12:42 pm #2586510
Agreed..
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah! That makes sense
And its Steffi who has shown a particularly vicious manhating streak. Poor Dmambo had to leave, and Palmetto suffers headaches.
James
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June 14, 2007 at 1:05 pm #2586503
:0 moi??
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah! That makes sense
I’ll have you know I’m an angle!! 😉
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June 14, 2007 at 6:52 pm #2585268
Yes, of course you are!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to :0 moi??
Acute angle. Good one, Steffi.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:26 pm #2586494
No. Not you, Steffi
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah! That makes sense
I couldn’t tag this response to Steffi’s last comment ’cause no one has shown me how to get past the Max Message thing and I haven’t figured it out yet 🙁
Anyway… Steffi, I think what you meant was that you are an ‘Angel’.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:46 pm #2585404
You mean like this?
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No. Not you, Steffi
But nope I really meant angle because I’m definitely no Angel! ]:)
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June 14, 2007 at 4:39 pm #2585304
There! I done it. nyah nyah
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You mean like this?
gotta confess, tho…
I didn’t do it on my own. 😉anyway…. I changed my icon. You like?
I was reading the discussion the other day and thought about friends i’ve lost. … the least I can do. for now.
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June 14, 2007 at 4:53 pm #2585299
Why so you did!
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to There! I done it. nyah nyah
I think that this qualifies you for something but I surely don’t know what yet.
Changed your icon??? Still the multiple flags to me.
Your friends remain alive and vibrant as long as your memory lasts and you can pass them on to others. Part of the joy of living.
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June 14, 2007 at 4:58 pm #2585297
Look closer… 5th flag.
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Why so you did!
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June 14, 2007 at 7:27 pm #2585260
Have no clue why
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Look closer… 5th flag.
But invisible to me.
I hate it when that happens!!!
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June 14, 2007 at 8:15 pm #2585252
Same file name
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Have no clue why
so maybe your seeing the copy in cache.
No biggie. But I’ll bet if you empty your IE cache and revisit the site, my icon changes so that it now shows a ribbon after the US flag. Or forget about it and it’ll eventually load in again anyway. 😉
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June 15, 2007 at 3:31 pm #2598377
NICE!!!!!
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Same file name
I love the creative pink ribbon icons!
Hmm. An idea formeth. Perhaps this year for the pink ribbon brigade I can get TR to do a contest thingie for the most creative use of a pink ribbon in an avatar.
Oh Beth!
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June 14, 2007 at 4:41 pm #2585303
Edited by Poster
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You mean like this?
ooops…. duplicate… LOL.
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June 14, 2007 at 4:43 pm #2585302
Oooops… ROFL
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You mean like this?
I feel so toopid.
I didn’t think it worked at first so I ended up making two duplicates. too funny.
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June 14, 2007 at 3:45 pm #2585314
Now your just taunting me…
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah! That makes sense
…and being mean 🙁
what did I do ta deserve dat?Man! I was just goin’ by the SP pic.
If you are an angle, you definitely are not right. Perhaps obtuse… 🙂
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June 15, 2007 at 2:13 am #2585171
OBtuse? Nah!
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Now your just taunting me…
I’m acute angle 😉
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June 15, 2007 at 6:01 am #2585118
Okay
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to OBtuse? Nah!
based on the SP pic, I have to concede.
you win.😀
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June 15, 2007 at 7:41 am #2585073
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June 14, 2007 at 3:52 pm #2585312
I’ll figure it out eventually… ;\
by captbilly1eye · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ah! That makes sense
I feel like I’m da only one who doesn’t know how to do this… rrrrrrrr
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June 14, 2007 at 11:13 am #2586560
I don’t suffer from “It’s all about me” syndrome.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Beth, I think Richard is still stinging from a previous thread
That matter is over, as far as I’m concerned.
What I am concerned with is where this community is heading as a whole.
I’ve been around (mostly lurking until somewhat recently) since before the date on my account. This is my second account. I created it after I forgot the login name of my first one. I remember the original interface of this site….
What I see as of late is a GENERAL hostility that I don’t recall.
I saw some of WMW’s posts and they were over the top…some by alot.
Fine.
Ignore him, ban him, but DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.
He’s got folks in here so whipped up that many are sinking to pretty low level, and not just with him. The bad attitude is infecting the community in general.
It’s that attitude that I would like to see corrected.
If it means banning WMW or anyone else who is disruptive, so be it.
But seriously, do you think that keeping him around to be used as a punching bag is GOOD for the community?
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June 14, 2007 at 12:04 pm #2586535
DON’T FEED THE TROLLS
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I don’t suffer from “It’s all about me” syndrome.
Richard, I could not agree with you more on this point. And no, I don’t think bashing–generally speaking–is good for the community. My point to you was, believe it or not, this jerk had it coming.
If you’ve noticed, though, this thread has already moved to other topics… Like the health of the community and Warner Bros. cartoons! 😉 The rage is generally short lived and the nature of the beast.
And, may I say, thanks for being a reasonable human being during this discussion. It’s so refreshing.
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June 14, 2007 at 7:46 pm #2585255
“It’s so refreshing.” — Relative to this discussion, or to Richard?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to DON’T FEED THE TROLLS
[i]And, may I say, thanks for being a reasonable human being during this discussion. It’s so refreshing.[/i]
Do you want to insult Richard, or everybody else?
:^0
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June 14, 2007 at 2:37 pm #2585357
It seems that [u]you[/u] are most actively stirring the pot.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I don’t suffer from “It’s all about me” syndrome.
This gives the impression that you deliberately seek to atrract attention to yourself.
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June 15, 2007 at 11:24 am #2598572
and yet, you are the one who continues to snipe, DS
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I don’t suffer from “It’s all about me” syndrome.
If you think I’m out for attention, I suggest you ignore me, thus depriving me of what I want.
Given the fact that you continue to engage me, I doubt you believe what you’re posting.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:53 pm #2598331
Grow up; move on.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to and yet, you are the one who continues to snipe, DS
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June 14, 2007 at 11:01 am #2586565
Missing my point entirely.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to With all due respect, Richard…
I am not saying that his posts should not have been edited or that his account should not have been fragged. You’ll not find a single instance of me defending word one of his posts.
What I don’t understand is that if you KNOW he’s causing problems, why is he not being banned on site every time he pops up?
Is it because it’s more ‘fun’ to attack him?
But at least I get to sit back and watch the crowd with pitchforks and torches storm the next castle.
with all due respect to you, madam; this is not the community I joined in 2002, nor it’s previous incarnation I had joined earlier than that.
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June 14, 2007 at 12:11 pm #2586532
Don’t get snippy with me, Mr!
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Missing my point entirely.
For your information, he IS banned every time he starts causing problems. And if he chooses to create a new identity and behave himself then he can be a part of the community.
You’re entitled to your opinion about the community and free to participate or not.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:06 pm #2586501
Not being snippy…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Don’t get snippy with me, Mr!
…nor am I threatening to take my ball and go home.
I find both to be a total waste of time, effort, and energy. In return, I’d like to be spared subtle (or blatant) invitations to leave when I mention something I believe to be harmful to the community.
But please, don’t call me Mr. It makes me feel old, and I’m dealing with that enough already.
I mentioned this to someone else, but back in the days of Usenet (and the BBSes) we treated folks like that with what was called a PISS, or a Passive Ignore, Simultaneous Strike.
It’s good that you are taking care of the disruptive individuals, it makes the community far more enjoyable, and certainly a far better resource.
The cold sholder always works better than bringing out the flames. If you’re dealing with a real troll, he gets bored. If you’re dealing with someone who just gets carried away, they moderate their tone when they see that the behavior results in their being ostricised.
All anyone can really do in here is post words on a screen. I’ve had far worse than that done to me and I seriously doubt that I am alone in that regard.
We are professionals, we’ve all handled worse than the worst online troll. Ignore them and they do go away.
That is not to say that the moderators and owners of TR should not act according to their interests with regards to banning, moderating et al. I am simply saying that it does no good to feed the trolls.
Trolls want one thing: attention.
If one attacks a troll, one gives said troll attention, albeit negative attention.
What a troll can not stand is being ignored. When he is, he usually resorts to extremely outlandish behavior in the hopes to get an avalanche of attention once more.
I’m not making any demands or threats, nor am I being snippy or sarcastic. If It comes out that way, I apologize and can assure you it is not intentional.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:32 pm #2585414
Hello Pot? This is kettle…
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Missing my point entirely.
If you’d like to compare our dedication and concern for this community, bring it on. I’ve been with TR for over seven years and I love it.
When I said “with all due respect,” I meant it. I was trying to explain my point of view. When you said “with all due respect, MADAM,” it read as quite sarcastic and condescending. Further, you assumed I wasn’t doing my job by getting rid of the idiot, but you were wrong. Both of those things ticked me off.
When I said you could choose to participate or not, I meant it. You’re free to do either. We’d be happy if you stayed, but hey: This is the community, warts and all.
I work hard every day to try and make it the best it can be. Most people here know that. You are cordially invited to believe that or not.
I’m finished going back and forth with you. You get the last word, so go for it!
Peace be with you!
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June 14, 2007 at 1:44 pm #2585405
No desire to go back and forth with anyone
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hello Pot? This is kettle…
which is of course my point.
Once again if my tone seems sarcastic, I apologize, it is quite unintentional.
I mentioned before that I have Asperger’s Syndrome, and while I have made great strides with regards to communication, I do have a problem with coming accross as sarcastic or condescending when I am not attempting to be either.
I respect the work you do and am not belittling it in any way. I made no assumptions about your duties or whether or not you are derelict in them, as I assume that you are not the only moderator.
If my posts led you to believe otherwise, then again, I apologize. My use of the term ‘madam’ was also not intended to be offensive. I simply have not engaged you prior to this, and as such did not presume to adress you by your given name absent a screen name.
Perhaps I should go back to lurking, as it seems that I have not progressed quite so far with my social skills as I had hoped.
Peace to you as well.
I do believe that you and the rest of the folk at TR are doing a fine job. I have enjoyed my tenure here, the recent exchanges notwithstanding.
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June 14, 2007 at 2:25 pm #2585370
Oh sure! Make me LIKE you!
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hello Pot? This is kettle…
LOL
Richard, this has been a bizarre conversation for me. I think you’re doing fineI believe we’ve been victims of trying to have an emotional conversation in print. Some things just don’t translate. I think you’re trying to be a smart aleck because I’m a smart aleck! Classic projection.
Don’t get paranoid about your social skills based on me, for Pete’s sake! Stick around! Keep posting! You’ll get used to the crew and they’ll get used to you. It’s a really great group once you get to know them.
Right gang? Right? Now, let’s put on a show to save the old Mill!
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June 15, 2007 at 7:05 pm #2598323
Clap if you believe in fairies!
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh sure! Make me LIKE you!
We can save Tinkerbell! We CAN!!! All you have to do is believe in fairies! If you believe in fairies, clap your hands!!!
Richard only needs someone to understand that he is not trying to be objectionable. And cooler heads to point that out.
I think that I can own that POV- Richard and I had a nasty little exchange on another thread that was really about how deeply we BOTH feel about the subject matter. In the end, we both shook hands, like grown-ups do and forgave the other.
What has been missing is that I have been swimming in the water cooler for awhile now and Richard is new here.
Richard is okay. the world simply doesn’t need the WMW’s. Richard didn’t get why we are so reactive, maybe he still doesn’t.
What I have learned about this community that sets it apart from any other I have been a part of is that we truly CARE about the health of the board and will go to extraordinary lengths to communicate that. WMW was as damaging to the life of this board as cancer- his hatred painted all of us in colours that we do not wear.
We are a family of sorts. Maybe that is more obvious to me because of all the ribbons I wear in the names of survivors from this board as well as the names of the angels. I feel the sense of family intently and daily.
WMW is a festering wound to my family- people I care about. I am grateful you ban him as quickly as you can identify him.
Family should stick together.
Keep it up, Beth. You do good things.
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June 16, 2007 at 8:39 am #2597147
I DON’T BELIEVE IN FAIRIES!!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Clap if you believe in fairies!
Although I approve of the rights of fairies to be fairies, I don’t believe in the existence of fairies!
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June 15, 2007 at 5:59 am #2585120
Thank you ma’am.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hello Pot? This is kettle…
I tend to be a bit of a classical geek when it comes to emotional issues. I’m a bit like Mr Data from STTNG.
you know….
IF WMW = idiot then
ignore him
else
engage him
end ifI also seem to have a bit of that ‘foot in mouth’ syndrome
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June 14, 2007 at 2:43 pm #2585351
Banishment is [u]reactive[/u].
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Missing my point entirely.
What summary action(s) would you have TR take to both predict & control one’s future behavior here?
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June 15, 2007 at 12:56 pm #2598435
There’s nothing they can do other than to deal with it when it happens
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Banishment is [u]reactive[/u].
Unfortunately so, as in the case of that Why Me Worry? fellow. Or, TR could always hire a bunch of psychics from Miss Cleo’s hotline to predict such future incidents from happening.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:55 pm #2598330
Precisely!
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to There’s nothing they can do other than to deal with it when it happens
A fact seemingly overlooked by Richard.
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June 15, 2007 at 1:32 pm #2598415
*** Burns strawman***
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Banishment is [u]reactive[/u].
Obviously, you are just looking for someone to fight with, thus proving my point.
And now, to practice what I have been preaching.
Good day sir.
I shall not engage you further.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:56 pm #2598329
Promise?
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to *** Burns strawman***
Does this mean that you’ll also stop beating a dead horse?
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June 16, 2007 at 2:47 pm #2597063
Way to go.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to *** Burns strawman***
You may have a cookie.
😀
Criminy!
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June 14, 2007 at 10:26 am #2586581
I find that the group here does not jump on someone
by faradhi · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No gentlemen here…
Unless they deserved it. I did not read dude’s posts but I am confident that the group is not overreacting.
I myself have engaged my mouth before my brain in some discussions and have been berated. What I have not done is whine about it like this guy. Neither, have I created alternate personalities and stoke the flames sort of speak.
For the most part, the people on this board are reasonable. However, they do tend to react harshly to a lack of respect towards the community.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:17 am #2586557
How about not jumping on folks at all?
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I find that the group here does not jump on someone
What purpose does it serve?
and what defines “deserving it”
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June 14, 2007 at 1:59 pm #2585388
Defining “Deserving it”: I will use the Court’s test
by faradhi · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to How about not jumping on folks at all?
that is used to define Pornography.
It can’t be defined, but you know it when you see it.
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June 14, 2007 at 2:46 pm #2585349
It’s called self-discipline.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to How about not jumping on folks at all?
Perhaps you’ve heard of the concept; here at TR, we employ it.
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June 15, 2007 at 5:37 am #2585135
Obviously, you are not using any.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It’s called self-discipline.
If you did employ the self-discipline you claim to have, you would not have felt the need to engage in such bandwagoning.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:57 pm #2598327
Grow up; move on.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Obviously, you are not using any.
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June 14, 2007 at 3:06 pm #2585340
why post
by tony hopkinson · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to How about not jumping on folks at all?
an opinion, or an interpretation of fact, or even an outright lie, on this site if you don’t want a response?
Someone disagrees in a response, ‘you’ disagree back.
Get into it a few other’s join in….
You should see what happens when I start airing my socialist principles. I get nailed by several of the regulars, if it bothered me , I’d keep my gob shut.
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June 15, 2007 at 7:43 am #2585072
One can respond without being hostile.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to why post
Is that not so?
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June 15, 2007 at 6:59 pm #2598326
Some do not respond to gentle & polite persuasion.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to One can respond without being hostile.
X-(
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June 14, 2007 at 7:16 pm #2585263
It’s not [i]”what”[/i] it’s [i][u]”who”[/i][/u] heh,heh.heh, heh. ;) B-)
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to How about not jumping on folks at all?
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June 26, 2007 at 11:21 am #2589335
You must mean “whose”, dawg.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It’s not [i]”what”[/i] it’s [i][u]”who”[/i][/u] heh,heh.heh, heh. ;) B-)
[i]How about not jumping on folks at all?
What purpose does it serve?[/i]My question is not “What purpose…”, but “[b]Whose[/b] purpose does it serve”, just in general. I don’t div a sham about the git here pig-piled, but in general, what’s the point? Whose interests [b]are[/b] served, when we all waste our time thus?
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June 14, 2007 at 2:02 pm #2585382
Presumptuous.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to No gentlemen here…
Do not ascribe to others those traits which you see in yourself.
Kindly refrain from presuming to speak for others.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:21 am #2585105
Take your own advice.
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Presumptuous.
I am stating what I see.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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June 15, 2007 at 1:14 pm #2598424
Then your eyeglass prescription needs to be updated. You are……….. X-(
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Take your own advice.
definitely not seeing the whole picture and/or are missing the point. Why this should be so is anyone’s guess but Richard_RPU could well be just another nom-de-plume for WMW. Who’s to say? Who’s to know? But I’m very adverse to anyone choosing to side with a racially, bigoted, hate mongering scumbag like WMW.
You’ve played the [i]fair play card[/i] and it has been considered and rejected as being non viable.. Continual harping on it is becoming annoying and indicates a level of obsessive compulsive paranoia that serves no good purpose, least of all for yourself. You’ve made your point and have ridden to the defence of the supposedly poor misunderstood down trodden, which BTW, I can assure you, WMW is most definitely not and now it’s time for you to drop it and back off or suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune that comes to all who offend the [i]amour propre[/i] of the majority here.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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June 15, 2007 at 7:03 pm #2598325
Perhaps if you’d stop looking in the mirror, …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Take your own advice.
You see nothing at all; you see only that which you desire to see.
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June 26, 2007 at 8:17 pm #2587365
Take yours.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Take your own advice.
You have said that you think WMW should be able to [b]say[/b] what he wants.
Quit your titty-baby whining about others who [b]say[/b] why they think TR was right to edit over his posts.
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June 27, 2007 at 4:55 am #2587251
Preaching to the deaf.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Take your own advice.
For him, advice walks a one-way path.
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June 27, 2007 at 10:29 am #2596401
What? Did somebody say something?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
You’re right. At least with this one, I detect less likelihood of being back-sassed than, ahem, with a certain other character on a certain other thread in which we showed that atheists did evolve from apes, and that zealous young Earth creationists have not.
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June 27, 2007 at 7:39 pm #2596201
Now, though, what to do re. …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
TonyTheTiger?
He vacillates between what gives the appearance of being genuine curiosity & and clinging to tightly held beliefs.
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June 27, 2007 at 10:50 pm #2603685
Tony has been a bit of a surprise of late.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
His stance on a couple threads has been less Old Liberal than I had expected. I’m for challenging him on the claim that science teachers are over-emphasizing science. I recall that in “The Last Word …” thread, he made reference to “hammering” some perspective or another toward science into young minds. I think that claim calls for verifiable documentation.
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June 28, 2007 at 12:40 pm #2587822
“Old Liberal?”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
I’m hard pressed to recall anything that he’s said that would have suggested “liberal” to be an apt description.
It’s his “I don’t know anything for certain, therefore [i]you[/i] [u]cannot[/u] know anything for certain, therefore all knowledge is relative” mantra that puzzles me.
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July 3, 2007 at 5:04 pm #2598893
deepsand, I should have said “classic liberal”
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
Tony does seem to lean toward freedom, but it may just be that he leans away from the stupidest forms of wasteful government regulations, and because there are so friggin many of those I give him more credit than he deserves.
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July 3, 2007 at 9:35 pm #2598846
That’s about right.
by tonythetiger · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
[i]Tony does seem to lean toward freedom, but it may just be that he leans away from the stupidest forms of wasteful government regulations, and because there are so friggin many of those I give him more credit than he deserves.[/i]
but I am curious as to what credit I am given that I don’t deserve (I certainly don’t want it if I haven’t earned it).
and Sandy,
I often seek advice in my life’s journeys. So I am confused by the comment.
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July 4, 2007 at 12:15 pm #2598662
Tony: Re. “I am confused by the comment.”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
If you will be more specific re. the comment in question, I’ll be happy to try to clarify.
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July 4, 2007 at 1:18 pm #2598651
Tony: Good point.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
Tony: [i]…but I am curious as to what credit I am given that I don’t deserve (I certainly don’t want it if I haven’t earned it).[/i]
Only you know if you deserve it, my agreement is of secondary importance at most, and I was presumptuous to reference the concept “credit”. I apologize.
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July 4, 2007 at 1:59 pm #2598647
This one
by tonythetiger · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
“For him, advice walks a one-way path.”
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July 4, 2007 at 8:06 pm #2600560
Oh, Tony, that was about Richard_RPU
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
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July 4, 2007 at 8:10 pm #2600559
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July 4, 2007 at 8:31 pm #2600552
So, Tony, are you now un-confused?
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Preaching to the deaf.
If so, can you tell the rest of us how to become likewise?
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June 14, 2007 at 10:16 am #2586591
Sometimes, salt is what a wound CALLS FOR.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I don’t think it’s the usual sort of troll (plus edits)
[i]Just goes to show that there are times when you need to back off, chill, have a curry and a pint of Cobra![/i]
Enjoying foreign cuisine is an excellent way of beginning to appreciate foreign cultures. Except for British cuisine. You pretty much have to like British culture without any assistance from the ‘cuisine’.
:p
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June 14, 2007 at 11:32 am #2586551
We love the Brits
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sometimes, salt is what a wound CALLS FOR.
despite their cusine
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June 14, 2007 at 12:02 pm #2586536
Hey! Pot! Over here! This is kettle calling…
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sometimes, salt is what a wound CALLS FOR.
I won’t take criticism of British food from the Yanks! You’ve taken all of the World’s best foods and morphed them into your own image and I’m not sure that too many of them have benefited!
I would offer the cheeseburger, Pizza Hut and the hot dog as examples of the Americanisation of something good. There are many, many more!
The most notable culinary lesson from my trips to the States is to say – trust me in this – it does not make food any closer to haute cuisine if you melt crap cheese all over it!
😀
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June 14, 2007 at 12:07 pm #2586534
If you’re going to criticize us…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hey! Pot! Over here! This is kettle calling…
Go after American Beer….
It’s a much easier target than our cusine.
Though I do agree on Pizza hut.
Still, the cheeseburger, especially the confection from that great establishment “White Castle”, is an artform in and of itself.
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June 14, 2007 at 4:15 pm #2585308
White Castle???
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If you’re going to criticize us…
I can hardly stand to drive down a street with a White Castle on it. When I first moved to the Midwest, a friend insisted that White Castle was the perfect food. Yeesh!!! It was awful!
In later discussion we concluded that it likely has much to do with where I was raised. White Castle was an adult experience, while Midwesterners have had access to this commodity since childhood.
Now the In N Out Burger is truly a masterpiece!
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June 15, 2007 at 7:46 am #2585068
I’ve heard about In N Out…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to White Castle???
It’s supposed to be the best of the best, from what I understand.
But White Castles……
They must put something in them to make them addictive.
I can only assume that you did not have a sufficient dosage to cause you to become addicted.
I’m told people have an easier time kicking a heroin habbit than curing white castle addiction.
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June 15, 2007 at 7:46 am #2585069
I’ve heard about In N Out…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to White Castle???
It’s supposed to be the best of the best, from what I understand.
But White Castles……
They must put something in them to make them addictive.
I can only assume that you did not have a sufficient dosage to cause you to become addicted.
I’m told people have an easier time kicking a heroin habbit than curing white castle addiction.
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June 14, 2007 at 12:09 pm #2586533
Neil..bite your tongue!
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hey! Pot! Over here! This is kettle calling…
Melted cheese product on anything is not only good, but good FOR you. Have you HAD a croissan’wich lately?? Hmmm??
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June 14, 2007 at 12:32 pm #2586517
I think the croissanwhich is vile
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Neil..bite your tongue!
What microwaves do to croissant’s is a sin against nature.
Couple of datapoints:
1) Heard on the news a survey showed the favorite food of Britains is….currie.2)The epic “Harold and Kumar go to White Castle” was primarily filmed in and around Toronto. There are no White Castles here.
3) What Americans and Canadians often put on fast food (burgers and croissanwhich) is commercially known as cheese food, because it is so processed they can’t call it cheese any longer.
Melted real cheddar makes many things taste good.
James
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June 14, 2007 at 1:11 pm #2586500
Yep….
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I think the croissanwhich is vile
1)I live and work in the areas they supposedly drove through on their quest to find White Castles…
If the movie had occured where they said it did, the whole thing would have been ten minutes long.
2)Microwaved Croissants are slightly less palattable than wet cardboard
3)Cheese-food is SKEEEEERY! I always wondered “Cheese food, is that what Cheese eats?”
Given point #3, what do you suppose Cheese WHIZ is?
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June 14, 2007 at 1:38 pm #2585407
I actually recognized
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I think the croissanwhich is vile
Many of the “west of Toronto” locations.
The scene where they are on the cliff wityh the hanglider, I know that actual spot. And from that spot you can see the road where the mythical White Castle is. There is actually a gas station there.
The first White Castle I’ve seen was in San Diego. I could be mistaken but I think I saw one in Vancouver. We don’t have anything like them in Toronto.
James
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June 14, 2007 at 12:41 pm #2586512
Bite my tongue?
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Neil..bite your tongue!
I’d rather EAT my own tongue than some of the things that I had on my plate on my recent vacation.
Neil 😀
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June 14, 2007 at 12:43 pm #2586509
Don’t worry Neil
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bite my tongue?
I love good old British food!! In fact sometimes I would cut off my own arm for a pub lunch, or a nice pan of Scouse!
Them Americans don’t know what they’re talking about!! 😉
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June 14, 2007 at 12:44 pm #2586507
I agree
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bite my tongue?
I’d probably rather eat your tongue than some of the crap that comes out of fast food restaurants.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:53 pm #2585395
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June 14, 2007 at 2:34 pm #2585361
I’m lost for an answer to Mae
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It all depends
I’m still reeling over the prospect of Mae eating my tongue
Even if it’s just so she doesn’t have to eat McDonald’s
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June 15, 2007 at 8:42 am #2598517
food for thought, neil
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m lost for an answer to Mae
or thought of food, depending on your point of view…
http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1627,152190-232206,00.html
if she starts looking at THIS one, I would run if I were you ….
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June 15, 2007 at 9:25 am #2598487
She already has my heart
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to food for thought, neil
The combination of black gear, red lippy and a writing style like the strike of a Cobra and I’m lost…
😡
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June 15, 2007 at 5:51 am #2585126
Neil is at a loss for words
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bite my tongue?
I rock!
And that was my FIRST smile this Friday morning.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:00 am #2585119
Mae! Mae!!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Neil is at a loss for words
Screenshot – quick, before he edits!
:p 😀
GG
]:)
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June 15, 2007 at 6:05 am #2585115
GG..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bite my tongue?
He wouldn’t do that, would he?
Better safe than sorry. Should I be worried that I’m getting my kicks this way?
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June 15, 2007 at 8:35 am #2598525
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June 15, 2007 at 8:41 am #2598519
The Germans have a word for it (as you should well know!)
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to There is nothing wrong
schadenfreude /ˈʃɑdnˌfrɔɪdə/
?noun
satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else’s misfortune.It’s my hobby…
And Mae’s…
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June 15, 2007 at 8:44 am #2598514
oh, how terribly true….
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to There is nothing wrong
Isn’t it, oh dearest one……
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=225457&messageID=2257871
Made my day!
thanks for that! – Have a wunnerful weekend!
😡
GG
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June 15, 2007 at 9:05 am #2598500
There’s more rain heading your way, babe
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to oh, how terribly true….
Better get out your very highest heels just in case the floods get up any more.
😀
Have a good weekend!
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June 15, 2007 at 10:10 am #2598598
JD? No recipe required..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bite my tongue?
Raw is fine.
Neil..better quit being so nice, it will ruin my good opinion of you.
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June 15, 2007 at 6:36 pm #2598336
It’s true. I DO have Neil’s heart
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bite my tongue?
I keep it in a jar on my bedside table.
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June 16, 2007 at 2:23 am #2597214
That’s what YOU think
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It’s true. I DO have Neil’s heart
What you have was actually removed from a pig so that you would THINK it is mine. Trust me in this, my heart is made of pure flint.
Neil 🙂
OH NO! Another dead animal post.
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June 16, 2007 at 7:25 am #2597176
Neil..I’m sorry, but you’re wrong
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Bite my tongue?
The label on my jar clearly reads NEIL’S HEART.
So, there you go. You just can’t argue with such rock solid proof.
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June 14, 2007 at 3:12 pm #2585334
Hi kettle!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hey! Pot! Over here! This is kettle calling…
How ya doin?
Guess what? I’ve never even been to Britain, just heard the jokes about your food and decided to see what you’d reply. You’re a very witty chap.
Cheers.
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June 14, 2007 at 4:02 pm #2585311
If you ever come over
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hi kettle!
I would like to treat you to some traditional British food.
It had better be a curry. 😀
And a beer or two to wash it down.
Soapbox warning!
Actually, until just a twenty or so years ago, the jokes were totslly justified on the whole as British restaurant food was mostly rubbish – poorly cooked “French” or “Italian” missing the point of both in that that good ingredients are needed for good food.
Home-cooked food tended to be mostly bland with overcooked vegetables.
The last couple of decades we have become hugely food-conscious and the quality of restaurant and home-cooked food has gone up across the board and the number of international cuisines that we get right is now what it should be.
We still do damn good curries though.
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June 16, 2007 at 12:26 pm #2597092
I’m looking for a copy of EL
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If you ever come over
& I seem to recall you & maxwell discussing the transmission of a copy of that piece of sh*t. Do you have? If not, do you know if she does?
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June 16, 2007 at 2:42 pm #2597066
Alas, no
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m looking for a copy of EL
Just after it was announced that it was to be deleted I went to get a copy for my archive and found that they’d trimmed it and all of my posts – among others’ – had disappeared. I lost the will to bother…
Max may well have a copy.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:31 pm #2585205
BTW, starting from the “cuisine” of a pile of British Puritans …
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hey! Pot! Over here! This is kettle calling…
adding a bit of cheddar delivers a substantial improvement to a great many recipes.
(The rest of them just can’t be helped!)
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July 4, 2007 at 5:47 pm #2600588
The difference between cuisine and food
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sometimes, salt is what a wound CALLS FOR.
Pub food isn’t bad at all. Of course, I’ve never been sober when I’ve eaten in a pub…
I think British cuisine never caught on in the US because of the names. No self-respecting American is going to eat “Toad in the hole,” “Bangers and mash” or “Spotted Dick.” Of course, some of use that have been there and had it do occasionally miss it.
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June 14, 2007 at 10:17 am #2586590
I’m fine, but where’s WMW?
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to poor Palmetto…….
Maybe he really was trolling, but I remembered my Kevlar brain-bucket this morning. I notice he hasn’t posted anything today, on this or any other topic. He still has a profile, so I assume Ms. Beth didn’t have to drop the bomb on him again.
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June 14, 2007 at 10:22 am #2586585
Actually…
by beth blakely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m fine, but where’s WMW?
I did. The profiles remain. The access goes bye-bye. We’ll see how long the peace lasts.
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June 14, 2007 at 11:14 am #2586559
Good
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Actually…
maybe this place will calm down.
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June 14, 2007 at 1:58 pm #2585390
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June 15, 2007 at 2:13 am #2585172
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June 15, 2007 at 7:05 pm #2598324
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June 15, 2007 at 11:59 am #2598469
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June 14, 2007 at 6:48 pm #2585269
Don’t look now…he’s back below!
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m fine, but where’s WMW?
Man your battle stations…it aint gonna be pretty
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June 15, 2007 at 8:59 am #2598505
Apparently not for long.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Don’t look now…he’s back below!
BOJ, I saw the posts you’re referring to, but they’re gone now. My guess (and only a guess) is that Beth send him down the porcelain water slide again, and that she’s doing what the Soviets used to do when a premier died. Who is this “Worry” you seem to know too much about, comrade?
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June 15, 2007 at 7:08 pm #2598321
And this time she sent his Profile packing as well!
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Apparently not for long.
In the past, she’d merely blocked his access.
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June 15, 2007 at 8:05 pm #2598314
Correction: She zapped [u]all[/u] of his profiles!
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Apparently not for long.
A “People” search now returns [b]no[/b] member names containing the string “worry.”
They’re still there, of course, as evidenced by the fact that the links here embedded in his posts are still active; but, that’s the only evidence that he ever existed here.
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June 14, 2007 at 3:49 pm #2585313
Emailed him a hard hat
by tig2 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to poor Palmetto…….
Knew it would come to this!
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June 15, 2007 at 4:32 am #2585149
Outlook blocked it as an unsafe attachment type.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Emailed him a hard hat
Try sending it as HardHat.zip next time.
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June 15, 2007 at 8:38 am #2598521
I am so embarrassed for you
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Outlook blocked it as an unsafe attachment type.
to admit that your using outlook… :0
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June 14, 2007 at 12:31 pm #2586519
This is a property rights issue
by crashoverider · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
I believe in total freedom of speech but when you are on TR website you are on private property just as if you walked in to someones home. The owner of the home can and most likely will set rules and if you violate those rules you will be subject to the consequences.
So what can you do? Well in a free market you can set up your own competing business and set your own rules for that business if your business is better i.e. no moderation total freedom of speech people may choose your business over your competitors business. I am not condoning the actions that the moderators take but it is their right because they have been entrusted with that power by the owner.
I also believe that the same rights should be given to the TV or radio station owners but mommy government does not see it that way in the current political climate. This is one reason why the radio and TV stations are hurting because back years ago they did not stand up for their rights and fight when they should have.
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June 14, 2007 at 3:09 pm #2585338
Correction: That ^ is a property rights *solution*.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to This is a property rights issue
The ‘issue’ is failure to understand, recognize, and fully respect that one party’s property rights (TechRepublic, here) are not equivalent to the other party’s free speech rights (WMW, in this case, but this argument will be played out a couple more times before it’s settled & well-understood). WMW & its cronies argue as if they really believe they have a [u]right[/u] to speak freely on TR’s property.
They are mistaken.
[i]I am not condoning the actions that the moderators take but it is their right because they have been entrusted with that power by the owner.[/i]
You don’t need to ‘condone’ anything. It is their property to use by their standards, not ours. The moderators are employees, doing a job for money. The owners assigned them that responsibility because it’s in their financial interests to do so. Professionals don’t want a forum littered with racist diatribes because it’s not only a waste of our time, it’s insulting to our hard work to suggest that we should exclude other races from free competition.
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June 14, 2007 at 7:01 pm #2585265
Good grief! :0
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
I go away for two days and what should have been a forgettable side thread has become a major with over 200 posts!
Isn’t that horse dead yet?
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June 15, 2007 at 2:18 am #2585169
Thing is Nick
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Good grief! :0
I’d say at least 75% of the thread is about other stuff, I mean theres been bugs bunny talk, breaking the maximum post talk and of course as always impure talk! I think we just got bored of talking about trolls! 😉
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June 15, 2007 at 9:29 am #2598609
I put my 2pf in, Stef
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Thing is Nick
Finally got a chance to actually sit and veg this morning. Lord, what a week, over a thousand miles already as of Thursday lunch!
Edit: ventilated post after brain fart
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June 16, 2007 at 5:12 am #2597195
Speaking of changing the subject, why “2pf” ?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I put my 2pf in, Stef
I know, or at least I think I know, that “2pf” is an abbreviation for “tuppence”, but whence the “f” ?
Idle minds want to know.
]:)
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June 16, 2007 at 8:03 am #2597158
pf = pfennig
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Speaking of changing the subject, why “2pf” ?
The German penny. As Steffi is (was?) in Germany…
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June 16, 2007 at 9:56 am #2597130
Ahh the old german currency
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to pf = pfennig
The Deutschmark was much better than the Euro, and all the Germans agree with that too!
Still in Germany return to England in mid August to do the last year of uni 😀
And then (fingers crossed) there will be a permanent move back here bringing hubby with this time 😀
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June 16, 2007 at 2:21 pm #2597071
Ohh?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ahh the old german currency
[i]The Deutschmark was much better than the Euro, and all the Germans agree with that too![/i]
Better how? Have they made the bills easier to fold?
:p
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June 16, 2007 at 2:15 pm #2597072
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June 15, 2007 at 11:32 am #2598486
Deceased Equines
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Good grief! :0
I haven’t see a horse die here yet. I think they’re all immortal. This sucker does seem to have taken on a life of it’s own. Hopefully the double-nuking of Worry by Beth will give it a good case of hoof and mouth disease, and the impending weekend will put it out of our misery.
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June 14, 2007 at 7:27 pm #2585261
Freedom of Speech != saying whatever you please..
by mylittlemansanidiot · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Freedom of speech comes with a certain amount of responsibilty of the speakers part to state things in a diplomatic, and inoffensive manner. It doesn’t give you the right to say whatever you please.
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June 15, 2007 at 9:19 am #2598493
Freedom of speech in The Land of the Free
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6751777.stm
I would suggest that this law is pants but that would be such a bad pun. So I won’t.
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June 15, 2007 at 11:24 am #2598571
Dress is not equal to political speech
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech in The Land of the Free
Have you seen these dumbasspunks dressed like this? It is REAL funny. They HAVE to grab their pants to keep them from falling down to their knees. They end up (instead of looking cool or tough) like little kids to when they have to go the the bathroom REAL BAD and are holding themselves.
This was a blip on the news a few daze ago, but nothing big, and nothing racist. I personally see more whites dressed like this, but that is because there IS mostly whites in the area? hmmmmmm. And most of these are not from poor urban areas, but are having fun running around pretending “they-be-gangstas”. So much for the future generations, when scum rappers are glorified and idolized.
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June 15, 2007 at 11:52 am #2598471
I have a very clear picture of you…
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dress is not equal to political speech
You’re standing in your front yard, you have on shorts, a wife beater, black socks and dress shoes and you are shaking your fist at kids in the street and yelling “hey you kids, get off my lawn..”
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June 15, 2007 at 12:06 pm #2598466
Hey you kids…..
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I have a very clear picture of you…
….get out of that Jello Tree….
Couldn’t help it that just came to mind.
James
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June 15, 2007 at 12:35 pm #2598454
um
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hey you kids…..
sorry, but it doesn’t ring a bell. Guess [b]I[/b] am not old enough to have heard this.
Mae, can you explain this for me? 😡
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June 15, 2007 at 12:41 pm #2598450
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June 15, 2007 at 12:45 pm #2598443
Quack quack
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Some people never learn
What James? I don’t understand. I just asked a valid question, and because it was clearly from a precious generation, (or so) I figured Mae would know! 😀
[i]duck and run, duck and run….
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June 15, 2007 at 1:46 pm #2598406
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June 15, 2007 at 2:01 pm #2598400
jello tree?
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You..my dear, are an enormous liar..
A side note, from the time I was 9 till I moved out on my own, we did not have a TV in our house.
I even did a quick google search, but didn’t find out anything.
And even if it were only a DAY younger, it would still be younger….. :p Don’t hate me for my outer beauty…. 😀
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June 16, 2007 at 7:15 am #2597178
That’s not why …
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to jello tree?
“Don’t hate me for my outer beauty….”
Oh? What reason do you prefer?
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June 15, 2007 at 2:47 pm #2598389
Not the jello tree
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You..my dear, are an enormous liar..
just the generic old man yelling at kids..you know, the ‘get off my lawn’ man.
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June 16, 2007 at 2:08 am #2598280
I agreed with yours Mae
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Not the jello tree
it was the jello that lost me.
now get off my lawn…
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June 16, 2007 at 9:22 am #2597141
Before pudding pops
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hey you kids…..
In the late 70s, before Cosby show, Bill did a commercial for Jello, where they had a tree full of various jellos in fruit shaped molds.
Cosby’s famous line was: “Hey you kids, get out of my jello tree” in an old man kinda yell.
I KNOW I am not the only one who remembers….
Fess up.
James
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June 16, 2007 at 10:34 am #2597113
I remember Cosby doing the Jello
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Before pudding pops
commercials. But I don’t remember the jello tree. Must have missed that one.
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June 16, 2007 at 12:30 pm #2597090
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June 18, 2007 at 6:29 am #2583765
I swear I am not making this up….
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I remember Cosby doing the Jello
http://6oh.blogphotography.com/archives/3038_1997824725/92490
http://www.iimaonline.org/presentations/20041012-13_sem.ppt#259,6,Are you a player in the hottest marketing strategy since:
Maybe it was a Canadian only commercial.
James
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June 18, 2007 at 9:49 am #2583648
James, did you see the ad
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I remember Cosby doing the Jello
before or AFTER the Jell-o shooters?
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June 18, 2007 at 11:17 am #2597546
oh, I bet if we ask Mae
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to James, did you see the ad
she would have a killer recipe for making tequila shooters! 😀 mmmmmmmm, tequilaaaa….
[i]”tequila makes me fall down….”
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June 18, 2007 at 11:31 am #2597539
I DO have a good recipe
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I remember Cosby doing the Jello
1. Put tequila of your choice in shot glass.
2. Drink shot
3. Repeat as necessary or until bottle is empty.
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June 18, 2007 at 1:50 pm #2597473
And now for the real questions
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I DO have a good recipe
sip or slam the shots?
lemon/salt or straight?
Two favorite brands?
it grosses my drinking partners out, but I sip it straight. mmmmmmmm, tequila…
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June 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm #2597415
No sipping
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I remember Cosby doing the Jello
just slamming.
Salt and lemon? Waste of time.
Favorite brands? Cabo Wabo and Patron. Although Sauza Hornitos isn’t bad and it’s cheaper than the other two. Jose will do if there isn’t anything else available.
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June 15, 2007 at 12:38 pm #2598452
don’t forget the hose
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I have a very clear picture of you…
to spray anyone that walks on the grass!
and it is SANDALS that goes with the black socks, not dress shoes. Have you no sense of fashion? ;\
Sometimes, it is a speedo instead of shorts too…..
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June 15, 2007 at 12:44 pm #2598445
Friends
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to don’t forget the hose
don’t let friends wear speedos.. 🙁
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June 15, 2007 at 12:49 pm #2598440
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June 15, 2007 at 12:53 pm #2598438
You just had to go there…didn’t you?
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to is it because I don’t shave my legs?
Now I’ll need therapy to get that image out of my head. Arrggggggghhh!
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June 15, 2007 at 12:59 pm #2598433
Well, ya…
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to You just had to go there…didn’t you?
And as you are a newer member, let me add, I am a 245lb bald guy with lots of body hair…. 😀
Did that help? B-)
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June 15, 2007 at 1:45 pm #2598407
Most of the peers who already knew that
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Well, ya…
Are too stressed by the image to comment until their therapy is completed. As I have very little imagination [b]and[/b] a strong stomach, I can still function – just.
I’m a little worried about flashbacks…
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June 15, 2007 at 1:40 pm #2598412
That’s just mean, man..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to is it because I don’t shave my legs?
besides, I don’t need to know how you and your ‘friends’ dress up for each other..
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June 15, 2007 at 2:51 pm #2598387
I just saw :0
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to is it because I don’t shave my legs?
a woolly mammoth wearing a rubber band. 😐
And I haven’t even finished my first beer yet. Somehow, I don’t think I will…actually, I don’t even think I need to… B-)
Edit to clean up emoticon typo.
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June 15, 2007 at 12:31 pm #2598457
It’s here too.
by tonythetiger · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dress is not equal to political speech
I offer to buy them some suspenders… pink ones 🙂
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June 15, 2007 at 12:43 pm #2598446
My boys HATE it
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It’s here too.
when I do my impersonation of these kids, in front of them…. Talking homize isn’t quite as hip when said by an old white guy, but GRAND for a laugh!
And then I tell them, sorry, this is a no buttcrack zone, because everyone knows crack kills!
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June 15, 2007 at 1:52 pm #2598405
Episode of Man Show had a solution for butt crack
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to My boys HATE it
Crack Spackle!
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June 15, 2007 at 12:49 pm #2598441
“The SOILED PAMPERS LOOK”
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dress is not equal to political speech
Is what a coworker of mine called it.
But a few cop friends of mine love it….
it’s so much easier to catch thugs if they’re either running while holding their pants, or tripping when the pants fall down.
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June 15, 2007 at 12:54 pm #2598437
Heard that from cops too
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to “The SOILED PAMPERS LOOK”
Can’t run when your pants are down to your knees. Did you know they make a pair of “pants” where the waist band is in the normal position, but the crotch of the pants goes all the way down PAST the knees? wft is with THAT?
And then there is the “I was shot in Nam, so I walk with a limp” walk.
yo baby yo baby yo! :p
Oh, I also do not ALLOW rap, hip-hop, and country NOISE in my house.
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June 15, 2007 at 1:00 pm #2598431
I married a cowgirl…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Heard that from cops too
I don’t have a choice about the country music…..
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June 15, 2007 at 1:24 pm #2598418
A cowgirl, in NJ??
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I married a cowgirl…
How did you manage that? :0
For years before my divorce, if where ever we were going was an hour or less, we drove separately because I would not listen to her music or subject myself to her second hand smoke.
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June 15, 2007 at 1:28 pm #2598417
She moved out here a few years back
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to A cowgirl, in NJ??
The missus quit smoking when we decided to have kids.
I still have to deal with the country music though…..
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June 16, 2007 at 6:40 am #2597183
Do you happen to know the origin of that expression?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech in The Land of the Free
“I would suggest that this law [b]is pants [/b]…”
A short time ago, I ran across that expression for the first time in years. Within a month, I see it again. Do you happen to know where it came from? Where you found it will be good enough. I have “Google” on my computer, too!
😀
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June 16, 2007 at 10:05 am #2597124
I didn’t know that it’s not common in the US.
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Do you happen to know the origin of that expression?
In the UK, it’s one of those words commonly used to replace swearing when describing something particularly bad. i.e. “That film last night was a load of old pants”, “Liverpool were complete pants”. “Pants” just arrived – around ten years ago, maybe – like many such words. It doesn’t appear to be regional and I can’t find any idea as to the origin.
It is sufficiently ubiquitous to have been used by our Home Secretary who, a few years ago, described an Afghani’s asylum request as a “pile of pants”.
😀
I hate having to explain puns! :_|
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June 16, 2007 at 11:06 am #2597107
I’m not so sure that it really is uncommon in the US
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I didn’t know that it’s not common in the US.
I just have the misfortune of knowing a lot of undesirables who don’t bother with manners and prefer expletives for their own sake.
F*ckwits.
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June 16, 2007 at 9:52 pm #2596981
Well, it’s certainly not common here in the Mid-Atlantic region.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m not so sure that it really is uncommon in the US
In my 61 years this is the first time that I’ve ever seen it.
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June 17, 2007 at 11:45 am #2596881
Ah, so?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Well, it’s certainly not common here in the Mid-Atlantic region.
I’ve seen it a couple times, the first being about ten years ago, but I can’t recall where or in what context, only that it didn’t seem to ever catch on, among my associates at that time.
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June 17, 2007 at 1:42 pm #2583982
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June 15, 2007 at 1:54 pm #2598404
Why are we still beating a dead horse with this forum?
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
The fool was obviously booted out and most likely won’t be back because he won’t be welcomed back in a very friendly manner.
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June 15, 2007 at 1:58 pm #2598402
Because..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Why are we still beating a dead horse with this forum?
a dead horse can’t hit back?
Seems as good a reason as any..
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June 15, 2007 at 3:14 pm #2598383
Perhaps you guys need anger management therapy too?
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Because..
Thou that have no sin shalt not cast the first stone.
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June 15, 2007 at 3:53 pm #2598371
Sin is a religious concept
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps you guys need anger management therapy too?
And I’m an atheist and therefore completely outside of sin and I can therefore cast all of the stones that I want. In this case, I [b]did[/b] want and I chose to throw them at a racist git.
Personally, I did it without anger as it was done to demonstrate my distaste with this guy’s series of posts. Sometimes, I believe, I even did it with humour – well, sarcasm was intended but that’s close enough. Anyway, like everyone else, I’d stopped slagging Why?? a couple of days since and I’m now enjoying a discourse with my on-line friends on other topics in a typical TR thread hijack.
Bit late to the party, aren’t you? 😀
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June 15, 2007 at 4:53 pm #2598356
Yeah, I’m a newbie to this site but not to IT. So what did WMW do exactly?
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Sin is a religious concept
I haven’t seen his actual posts to know the history of what led up to this onslaught of backlash towards him.
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June 16, 2007 at 2:01 am #2598282
Well,
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Yeah, I’m a newbie to this site but not to IT. So what did WMW do exactly?
He’s always been a fairly excitable poster but he lost it completely in a thread on H-1B visas and went off on a series of racist anti-Indian posts, some directed at India-based peers, that had to be censored.
TR isn’t usually moderated and you can get away with quite a lot on the off-topic threads. To get a post edited out, another peer has to flag it up by using the ‘mark as spam’ button and then the TR moderator, Beth, has to concur that the post is either spam or sufficiently objectionable before anything is done. Beth doesn’t have a reputation for over-reacting yet she chose to edit out a number of this guy’s posts, warn him and then – finally – kill his account.
It takes a lot to get to the account-banning stage!
Now that was a real shame for everyone as he’d been on TR for a year or two and had, judging by his accounts stats, been helpful to other peers.
He then came straight back with a new account and started this thread to whine about his treatment. The combination of the original racist posts – some of which garbage I read and for the rest I trust Beth’s judgement – AND this whiny thread and his response to peers’ criticism in it was just too much for most of us, got him crapped on by all and sundry AND got his account banned again.
Then we just hihacked the thread and went way, way off-topic as occasionally happens.
Be aware, if you haven’t already noticed, that the ‘off-topic’ flagged threads are seriously NOT about IT!
Neil 😀
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June 16, 2007 at 7:45 am #2597162
Ouch…what a way to crash and burn
by big ole jack · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Well,
Perhaps the guy is blaming an entire culture for this whole H1-B situation. I agree that the entire H1-B situation has run amock and needs to be curtailed to some extent, but the folks in India can’t be blamed for this. It’s the greedy U.S. corporations that are selling us out and flooding IT with cheap labor, and who can blame foreigners for wanting to come to the USA to earn money? Heck…I am foreign born and my folks immigrated to this country over 30 years ago for the exact same reason…to have a better life.
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June 16, 2007 at 2:38 pm #2597068
Welcome, n00b
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ouch…what a way to crash and burn
Just kidding, I mean “newcomer”. I did notice that you said you are new to TechRepublic & NOT new to IT. Just funnin ya. That will happen a lot if you stick around.
I’m usually not so gregarious & welcoming, but I noticed your comments about “the whole H1-B situation” and decided it would be helpful to refer you to our resident far-right economist maxwell edison. He’s extremely well-informed about all aspects of macroeconomics (that I’ve ever heard of) and very passionate about the freedom of people to make money.
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June 16, 2007 at 7:34 pm #2597013
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June 15, 2007 at 6:34 pm #2598338
Anger management?
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps you guys need anger management therapy too?
because I thought beating a dead horse wouldn’t be threatening? YOU are the one one brought the dead horse into the discussion. Personally, I think it’s weird to bring dead animals into any discussion, but I was trying to be polite.
And as far as sin goes? I went to Catholic school. I paid for all my sins in advance.
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June 16, 2007 at 2:11 am #2598278
Dead animals should NEVER be brought into discussions
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Anger management?
Unless, of course, it’s a recipe.
Or a discussion about taxidermy.
Hunting.
Or that surreal journey we had through France and Spain back in my student days which we christened “International Dead Dog Day” when the side of the roads seemed to be littered with dead animals and we started to score points for spotting them and the rules said that we had to stop every 100 at a bar and I got so pissed that I ran off the road somewhere in La Mancha which, luckily, is as flat as a pancake otherwise I probably wouldn’t be posting this drivel today.
:p
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June 16, 2007 at 2:21 am #2598276
Ah, road kill
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dead animals should NEVER be brought into discussions
We have a lot of deer on the side of the road, fat and bloated, ready to pop.
As we get more and more populated, there is less hunting, and in some areas it has really become a problem.
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June 16, 2007 at 2:31 am #2597213
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June 16, 2007 at 9:45 am #2597134
How strange..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Dead animals should NEVER be brought into discussions
must have been a lot of depressed pets?
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June 16, 2007 at 12:28 pm #2597091
doggie suicide?
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to How strange..
did you see the video for that? I think it is a brake commercial. If not, I will see about getting it posted.
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June 17, 2007 at 6:21 am #2596940
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June 16, 2007 at 2:15 am #2598277
Oh, I just HAVE to ask Mae
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Anger management?
do you still have a little school girl outfit that you put on every now and then? :0 oh my…..
As for dead animals, horses in particular, is it still called “livestock” after it is dead?
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June 16, 2007 at 2:36 am #2597212
I’m quite interested in the answer, too
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh, I just HAVE to ask Mae
To the FIRST question, that is.
p.s. You’re up late…
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June 16, 2007 at 6:58 am #2597181
pictures would be nice… ]:)
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I’m quite interested in the answer, too
[i]”To the FIRST question, that is.”[/i]
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June 16, 2007 at 9:12 am #2597145
If you both must know
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh, I just HAVE to ask Mae
Yes, I still have the outfit. In fact, I’m sitting here RIGHT now in ponytails, a plaid skirt, white blouse and white knee socks.
Pervs..
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June 16, 2007 at 12:26 pm #2597093
oh my…..
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If you both must know
I will be right back, got to go check the web cam on this one…… ]:)
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June 16, 2007 at 2:49 pm #2597062
Oh my…..
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If you both must know
I have no need for a webcam. I will continue to use my imagination.
I have a good imagination! :0
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June 17, 2007 at 12:33 pm #2596873
I believe you have an imagination.
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Oh my…..
I believe it may even be vivid.
I doubt that it is “good”.
]:)
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June 16, 2007 at 3:35 pm #2597055
oh my…..
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If you both must know
perv or not, that works for me… 😀
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June 17, 2007 at 1:17 pm #2583989
Oh my…..
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If you both must know
As Abs pointed out above, I have a vivid imagination. I think that this image of Mae has overstretched it and I’ve run out of neurotransmitters.
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June 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm #2583942
Neil..stop!!!!
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to If you both must know
Really..I was kidding. I didn’t have my hair in ponytails. The rest was true. Oh..and I DID have this great big red lollypop.
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June 17, 2007 at 5:50 pm #2583937
yes, yes she does……
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Neil..stop!!!!
and it must be tasty, the way she is sloooooowly licking it top to bottom…..
glad I was recording the whole time…. ]:)
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June 15, 2007 at 7:13 pm #2598319
I thought that was “Let him who has not been stoned cast the first sin.”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps you guys need anger management therapy too?
]:)
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June 16, 2007 at 11:45 am #2597098
I thought it was “Ye that [u]are[/u] stoned …”
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I thought that was “Let him who has not been stoned cast the first sin.”
?:|
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June 16, 2007 at 7:31 pm #2597014
That’ll work as well.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I thought it was “Ye that [u]are[/u] stoned …”
However, given the resulting state of diminished capacity, can one then truly sin?
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June 16, 2007 at 7:44 pm #2597011
heh
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to That’ll work as well.
You tell me. Have you been able to sin while so diminished?
:p
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June 16, 2007 at 9:33 pm #2596987
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June 16, 2007 at 12:32 pm #2597089
Even [u]I[/u] know that’s a misquote!
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Perhaps you guys need anger management therapy too?
Remove the word “not” from that sentence, and it’s a faithful translation.
Worse? They’re about to stone me! How could it possibly get any [u]worse[/u]?
SO glad I asked!
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June 15, 2007 at 7:12 pm #2598320
He’s been booted & re-booted & re-booted & …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Why are we still beating a dead horse with this forum?
He may very well sneak back yet once again.
Oh, you asked a question, didn’t you?
We’re still beating this dead horse because:
1) Live ones cost too much to buy;
2) Live ones cost to much to feed; and,
3) Live ones require cleaning up after.We could probably handle nos. 1 & 2, but nobody here’s volunteered for no. 3.
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June 16, 2007 at 7:24 pm #2597017
I think he’s gone now
by mjd420nova · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a discussion solicit so much comment about one TROLL. We are all on guard to protect the forums from undesireable types but have all violated what I see should be the number one rule and that’s to ignore flamers, trolls and idiots. Maybe we all needed to vent a little but I think it’s gotten a bit out of hand.
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June 16, 2007 at 7:38 pm #2597012
FYI, this thread has been hijacked. :0
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I think he’s gone now
A decreasingly small portion of it is now re. WMW. It’s morphed into yet another YUK.
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June 16, 2007 at 8:57 pm #2596994
what was that?
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to FYI, this thread has been hijacked. :0
hijack a discussion? us? I find that so hard to believe! B-)
After all, we haven’t done that since the last time we did!
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June 16, 2007 at 9:18 pm #2596991
I still get hte feeling he’s lurking
by mjd420nova · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to what was that?
I feel a certain something that he’s got a new handle and is hiding among us. I always look to see a joined date before I weigh the postings and often will just ignore them if it’s one of those first day posts. I realize that makes me prejudgiced but habits are hard to break. TR is one of the most active forums I’ve found on the web in the past six years and that’s saying alot. I haven’t found many with the number of members and the number of actively particpating posters. Not since Stanford closed their BBS in the early 90’s. New sites pop up all the time but have nowhere near the attendance and participation.. Some are active with unregistered members but I don’t count guests. I really enjoy TR and don’t want to see ANYONE drag it down or berate it or its bonifide members in any way.
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June 16, 2007 at 9:47 pm #2596983
As long as he avoids repeating his recent bad comportment, he is, …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I still get hte feeling he’s lurking
in my opinion, welcome back. Perhaps the emotional wound(s) which gave rise to his irrational behavior will heal sufficiently for him to here begin anew.
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June 16, 2007 at 9:40 pm #2596984
Have you known many that weren’t?
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to what was that?
No matter the medium, as the number of participants increase so too do the number of paths taken. An interesting exercise can be had by being at the end of a thread, comparing it to the opening line, and trying to recall all of the intervening steps.
A friend & I once bugged a party that we hosted, with several recorders & mikes, for the very purpose of such an exercise. We never did figure out how it came to be that Charlie was giving a solitary recitation of “The Charge of the Light Brigade.”
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June 17, 2007 at 6:18 am #2596941
Well..
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to what was that?
Sometimes topics get boring. Or require way too much thought(not the case here).
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June 17, 2007 at 1:47 pm #2583979
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June 17, 2007 at 3:00 pm #2583967
heaven forbid
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Boring? :0
She said the *topics* get boring. Such occurs when the same scintillating people repeat the same scintillating observations about an old, boring topic.
I know mae is more than a match for you, but she shouldn’t have to be bothered rebutting such nonsense.
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June 17, 2007 at 4:42 pm #2583944
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June 17, 2007 at 6:39 pm #2583927
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June 18, 2007 at 1:10 pm #2597497
I had my own thoughts on that
by w2ktechman · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Ho hum?
but decided to keep quiet this time.
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June 17, 2007 at 6:38 pm #2583928
Re. “I know mae is more than a match for you”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to heaven forbid
This, I assume, is from personal experience.
As I’ve not yet had the pleasure, I’ll defer judgement.
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June 18, 2007 at 6:45 am #2583757
I am sure you have heard
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Re. “I know mae is more than a match for you”
the saying “the kittens got claws”?
This one has a shovel….
B-)
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June 18, 2007 at 2:45 pm #2597442
Already know about the shovel.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I am sure you have heard
[i]That’s[/u] a cause for concern?
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June 18, 2007 at 4:11 pm #2597416
It’s not a cause for concern
by maecuff · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to heaven forbid
Because I’m nice. Dammit.
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June 18, 2007 at 6:25 pm #2597390
That’s what I thought, too.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It’s not a cause for concern
Thanks for clearing that up.
😡
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June 17, 2007 at 12:36 pm #2596872
Did somebody say something?
by absolutely · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to I think he’s gone now
[i]We are all on guard to protect the forums from undesirable types but have all violated what I see should be the number one rule and that’s to ignore flamers, trolls and idiots.[/i]
And if he did, wouldn’t that be 3 rules?
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June 18, 2007 at 6:36 am #2583760
Why bother…
by now left tr · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
when we can put a gun to your head!
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June 18, 2007 at 7:31 am #2583725
Or better yet
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Why bother…
Let him put it to his own head?
Self serve is so much better in these modern days….
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June 18, 2007 at 8:56 am #2583680
Strap a nuke to his sorry ass
by now left tr · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Or better yet
and hand out keyboards full of “Any” keys.
Press “Any” key to continue…*
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June 18, 2007 at 11:15 am #2597549
oh oh!
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Strap a nuke to his sorry ass
Lions! Feed him to the lions! [i](no, not the football team. even HE could take them….) :0
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June 18, 2007 at 7:35 pm #2597376
Hook, line, & sinker…
by toms45 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Freedom of speech is nonexisten here on TR from what I see.
Talk about “taking the bait”. WOW, Why Me Worry sure got all of you “hooked” into this decidedly non-technical discussion. BTW, WTF!
Did that offend? They’re just letters….
Bet I can bait some of you, too!
Come on people, it’s a TECHNICAL forum. Hit some the .alt.alt.alt sites if you really want some non-PC stuff.
Sorry to all who have taken this topic so seriously, but after reading a 100 or so, the light came on and I realized you’d all been snookered by this dude.
Have fun, laugh about it, forget about it…
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June 18, 2007 at 8:56 pm #2597359
It’s the [u]Off Topic[/u] forum, in case you missed that.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hook, line, & sinker…
Bait? Very bad assumption on your part.
Judging from your Post History, I’d venture a guess that you’ve no clue re. the background of WMW. However, if you’d [b]first read[/b] this thread, you would have had one.
Snookered? Yes, you were.
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June 18, 2007 at 11:09 pm #2597332
a member for years
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to It’s the [u]Off Topic[/u] forum, in case you missed that.
and never came across off-topic discussions? I thought it was just the noobies that thought to take it upon themselves to tell others how and where to post?
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June 18, 2007 at 11:38 pm #2597329
Oh, well, just goes to prove the old saying that …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to a member for years
there’s a new one born every minute.
Let’s see if he’s the nerve to come back.
]:)
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June 19, 2007 at 12:20 am #2597325
What you mean off-topic??
by steffi28 · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to a member for years
You mean there are actually on topic discussions?? Damn why have I never wrote to any :p
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June 19, 2007 at 2:02 am #2597315
steff..
by shellbot · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What you mean off-topic??
don’t worry about it…we only have one topic on our minds most the time anyways !
oh and BTW…the caffeine thread..that was taken WAY out of context..if i can just friggin reply to it now (in theory in know how, i just need need to get it to actually work)
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June 19, 2007 at 2:24 am #2597311
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June 19, 2007 at 3:51 am #2597298
well..with that attitude
by shellbot · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Shell
I’m not going to tell you!! ]:)
Umm..ok..well..think about it for a few and see if you can guess. 🙂
Now..gotta go rip some testicles off someone..
why does it seem that everyone i work with is completely stupid??????? Dropped everything else and Busted my @ss doing an export as “high priority” and when i send it to the company i need to, get a reply from the Director saying we’ve not paid our contract fees for this year, so they won’t touch it till we do..
I was mortified..and everyone here playing stupid..grrrrrrr
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June 19, 2007 at 6:03 am #2597261
I haven’t had that happen since the last time it did
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to well..with that attitude
Don’t you just hate it when some bean counter somewhere has left your a$$ to flap in the wind over something?
My company is industrial. Some of the plant equipment has a controller that is actually just a PC (that we didn’t know about).
Well, the system died, so the plant is dead in the water. ~oh great~ “can’t you fix this computer? Isn’t that what you guys do?”
Sure, we can fix the computer, but of course the company that provides it will not provide the software to run the plant, but they WILL load a new system and send it out within a week. Only cost $6500, plus shipping. Oh, and because of past conflicts, we will need a check in-hand before we do anything….. ~wtf?~
Got to love it…. That is what kept me on the road over half of last week. After we get the system, it wouldn’t friggen work! There was a bug in the software… ~grrrr~
“Oh, we don’t do dial-in support anymore, we come in over the internet”. fine and dandy, but there is no network run out to that building….. ~sigh~ I made a 150 foot patch cable and ran it over for the few hours they needed it, and then coiled it back up.
Was not, and am not, happy about that situation.
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June 19, 2007 at 1:33 pm #2598135
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June 19, 2007 at 1:33 pm #2598136
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June 19, 2007 at 1:28 pm #2598139
You must be on [i]the[/i] [u]list[/u]; let me check.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to What you mean off-topic??
Yep, here you are, just above my name, on the “List of Those to be Last to Know.”
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June 22, 2007 at 11:53 am #2593090
… on the money
by aptechme · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to Hook, line, & sinker…
I was reading along and was about to post this exact message.
You’re giving him what he wants.
Let the board admins shut him up, or just ignore him.Peace, and have a great weekend all.
Edit* Before deepsand takes offence 😉 thought I would clarify… I don’t care where or how anyone posts, but I still think you were giving him what he wanted. No, I did not spend time looking over his post history.
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June 22, 2007 at 2:54 pm #2593023
No offense taken.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 9 months ago
In reply to … on the money
I disagree with the contention that “we” gave him what he wanted. What he wanted was support from others and/or the means to continue with his offensive behavior.
He attained neither; and, in a manner which should make clear to him that he will not succeed in those regards.
May the Future be Kind.
PS – Bear in mind that TR’s staff makes no attempts to proactively identify & take action re. miscreants; rather, they react to incidents as they are reported by members.
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