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I am a little FURIOUS Right now

by Aaron A Baker In reply to I am a little FURIOUS Rig ...

<p>After I left TR I went to the CBC and found the following.</p>
<p>I should have put the link in at the end. Sorry about that.</p>
<p>As for research I didn't do any. I just reported it.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the story. It pretty well speaks for itself.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2006/08/23/cancer-fundraising.html">http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2006/08/23/cancer-fundraising.html</a></p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Aaron</p>
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I am a little FURIOUS Right now

by Tig2 In reply to I am a little FURIOUS Rig ...

Unfortunately, there have been issues.  Where you see a corporate sponsorship such as New Balance, there is a clear statement that a percentage of proceeds that are directed to the Susan G Komen Foundation.  What New Balance is trying to do is present a product line that wil have a philanthropic effect.  It is up to the consumer to read and understand the black words on the white paper- a percentage of PROCEEDS (that which profit- not the purchase amount) is donated.  And their Annual Report clearly shows the figure that is used in advertising.<br /><br />In the US in May and again in October, it is not uncommon to see specially packaged products that promise to donate a set amount per REGISTERED SKU.  Sun Chips is one such.  The copy takes up one side of the bag and is written in 12 point type.  It clearly defined the cap at $250,000.  It also says clearly that the funds would be directed to the Susan G.  It is not clear how those funds will be used.  It is to note that the donation is made BEFORE the bags are printed in many cases.<br /><br />The National Philanthropic Trust sponsors the Breast Cancer 3 Day.  Unless you are a participant, you are unaware of a few things.  I pay a registration fee.  This money which does not qualify as a donation so is not tax deductible, covers the costs of supporting me during the three days.  It also pays for my webspace for the year.  I also raise a specific amount of money.  The minimum is $2200.  If you do not raise that money, you have two choices.  Delay self donation which gives you an additional 30 days after the event to raise the money or immediate self donation.  Regardless of which you choose, you MUST be at $2200 on Day One.  Or you don't walk.  <br /><br />We know this up front.  The reason that the registration fee exists is to keep people from signing up for the "cool" event.  There have been serious problems with the Komen Race- namely that people would sign up and not do the fundraising.  But they would participate.  Every body on the track costs the event organisers money.  The Komen now has a registration fee in place too.  That helps some.  The 3 Day requirement to raise a minimum acts as a culling mechanism.  The training required to complete the event is extensive and requires dedication.  So does the fundraising.  But fundraising also raises awareness and so contributes in itself to the goals of the event.<br /><br />All funds raised by Race for a Cure go to the Susan G Komen Foundation.  The Breast Cancer 3 Day divides monies raised between the Susan G Komen (85%) and the National Philanthropic Trust's Breast Cancer Research Foundation (15%).  The NPT exists to encourage and spread philanthropy- selfless giving.  You can find out more about the organisation here: http://www.nptrust.org/ .<br /><br />I researched both the Susan G and the NPT pretty extensively before committing to the 3 Day.  I also walk the Race.  I believe that the work they are doing is vital and responsible.<br /><br />One of the challenges that impacts here is that cancer treatment is painfully expensive.  I set my fundraising goal to point out one of those issues- $5000 is the national average cost of ONE chemo treatment for an uninsured/underinsured person.  But the Susan G is not set up to provide individual grants of money in lieu of insurance to a patient.  What they do fund is research, provide free mammograms, and educate.  I have heard a number of people complain that the "Komen wouldn't help them by sending money".  That isn't what they do.<br /><br />I am aware that awareness products are a huge marketing opportunity.  I have a great number of pink ribbon things.  And I am more drawn to the "iconic pink ribbon".  In those cases, I am less concerned with how much of the proceeds goes to Researck and more concerned that those products continue to be available.  By their existance, they encourage awareness.  From where I am sitting in my home, I can look around and see dozens of pink ribbon things.  I wear a ribbon every day, I talk about the cause, my partner's truck sports an American flag on his side and a pink ribbon on mine.  And more- much more.<br /><br />The proof to me that this was good was the number of women who sent me emails to tell me that they were reminded by me to get a mammogram, men who were told about male breast cancer for the first time, people at risk for other cancers getting checked.  That is enough return on investment.  The other thing that happened was the number of people who chose a training regimine based on "if she can do it, I can do it".  That was worth the price of admission too.<br /><br />I can't speak to Canada and won't try.  I think that it is up to the individual to educate themselves about their philanthropic giving.  There is plenty of information available on the web and elsewhere.

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I am a little FURIOUS Right now

by Aaron A Baker In reply to I am a little FURIOUS Rig ...

<div>Thanks for the Comeback Tig.</div>
<div>I should state that I have no problem with companies that use the money to cover their own initial expense and overhead. I certainly understand the need for such fund being directed that way as it is necessary to keep the situation going.</div>
<div>However, the statement the says"The First  $100.000 will be donated" leaves me gasping.</div>
<div>There is no way these corporations are not making far more than that. </div>
<div>It's one thing to cover your overhead, it's quite another to make an actual profit on what is supposed to be a gesture of kindness and consideration. Since the advent of Terry Fox, Cancer has indeed become Big Business.</div>
<div>It seems top me that this is an incredible amount of money, Think about it, The First "One Hundred Thousand" Dollars.</div>
<div>If they can say that, then just how much are they really raking in under the guise of wanting to help Cancer victims?</div>
<div>Half a Million, One Million, they make sure you don't know.</div>
<div>I am disappointed that our "Canadian" Government hasn't seen fit investigate this situation and the firms that make all this money from Cancer victims and the people who want to help.</div>
<div>Therein lies my disappointment. </div>
<div>I have already written to the government asking why this is not being checked out.</div>
<div>Cancer is " As we all know" no joke and for anybody to using it to make any kind of profit is despicable beyond words.</div>
<div>And so I thought I would bring the News paper article as it was directly to us. Untouched, Unaltered.</div>
<div>It should be noted that this does not affect my opinion of the Fine Men and Women who are actually dedicated to the eradication of this horror called Breast Cancer, God Bless them for we would be lost without them.</div>
<div>But if what this Professor is saying is even remotely true, then severe criminal charges should be laid.</div>
<div>Or at the very least an investigation into the inner workings of these "Benevolent" firms in Canada.</div>
<div>I've never forgotten the Firm that refused to hand over "All" of the moneys donated after **1, stating that this was for future emergencies. I couldn't believe it, donated money, and they held back.</div>
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<div>I also point that this may not apply to all Firms, I would have a hard time believing this, but if there is even one, then they should be brought to task for skimming off and illness that has killed so many and devastated so many families.</div>
<div>As we speak, I have a friend who is Dying of Cancer, will not see the next six Months.</div>
<div>My Daughter's Mother in law is now passing away from leukemia, we don't expect her to last 3 weeks.</div>
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<div>This then is what I was referring to.</div>
<div>I can certainly see some firms wanting to help and am ever grateful for their participation, but to hear of this type of gluttony, leaves me feeling Manipulated, Used, Angry and Disappointed.</div>
<div>As a survivor, I too have looked into things and have chosen to donate directly to the Canadian Cancer Society on annual basis.</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Aaron</div>
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I am a little FURIOUS Right now

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to I am a little FURIOUS Rig ...

Can't say as to the facts and figures mate, and my natural distrust of corporates always says they don't help out of simply altrusistic motives. However a story like this damages them more than being known for not contributing. Up to them, to sort it out in public, show the incomes and outcomes, show what happened to the money raised thru them or from others.<br /><br />A value cap seems a little iffy to me, morally. A percentage cap I could live with, but I bet a lot of the numbers are tied in with ah 'tax incentives'<br /><br />Some unpalatable facts.<br /><br />Without this sort of initiative, less money would be donated. <br /><br />100,000 sounds like a lot of money to us poor buggers, but percentage wise in terms of the cost of national healthcare it means less than a cent would to you.<br /><br />Charities, however laudable, once they become established do become very business like. <br /><br />

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I am a little FURIOUS Right now

by Ibanezoo In reply to I am a little FURIOUS Rig ...

Wow that really sucks.  My wife did one of those walks recently and gave $500.  Maybe we should ask for it back.........

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