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Gays Serving in the U.S. Military - Who should decide?

By maxwell edison ·
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Disclaimer: My personal position is two-fold:

One: A person's sexual preference and/or practice is his/her own business. I don't know whether sexual orientation is a matter of choice or birth, nor do I care. It's not my business what you do; it's not your business what I do.

Two: Serving in the military IS NOT a Constitutional right. The military can indeed discriminate for a variety of reasons (sorry, you have flat-foot), all of which are implemented for the purpose of maintaining the most effective military force possible. If you disagree, please show me the exact article of the Constitution that shows me to be wrong. The mission of the military is to be the most effective fighting force - no more, no less.

Having said that, whether or not gays are allowed to serve in the military is a question that I would pass on to the military experts; I'd yield to their opinion.

What's yours?

Edited to change the title and add the following content:;leftCol

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The Natural Order of things?

by JamesRL In reply to What about The Natural Or ...

If you want to look to nature, then are you trying to tell me that no other animals other then humans have same sex relations? Really? Care to think that through?

I'd like nothing better than to not define people by ANY singular charecteristics. But as long as people descriminate against others based on those charecteristics, then we need to define them. I look forward to the day when no one cares about what two consenting adults do behind closed doors.

BTW, I'm not a liberal. As a Canadian I'm definately not a Liberal.

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Lizards and other animals without good vision or smell

by john.a.wills In reply to The Natural Order of thin ...

sometimes attempt sexual intercourse with members of their own sex. But humans are intelligent enough to distinguish even if handicapped, so do not have the excuse of the animals.

I know that sexual inversion occurs among animals, who sometimes when so affected do weird things (apparently whales do some odd things with their snorkels) but, again, we are the rational animal and know what things are for, so even sexual inversion is not an excuse.

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You're not a farm-boy obviously...

by AnsuGisalas In reply to Lizards and other animals ...

Know horses? Even mares go dry-******* other mares from time to time...
I guess they don't teach that in convert school

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A gay pitbull is always good for a chuckle

by Oz_Media In reply to You're not a farm-boy obv ...

My Buddy's pit used to try to bang my pit all the time. As soon as it came in the yard, my dog would sit and look at it with those, 'please, no' eyes.

But hey, we are "evolved" and are supposed to restrain ourselves from such sins as we should know better, don't you read the bible?
Well I guess that throws 'evolved' out of the window, maybe we are just going against God's design then, yeah that makes a lot more sense, don't do it because God says so.

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In short

by Oz_Media In reply to Lizards and other animals ...

We are supposed to KNOW BETTER?

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That's right nt

by john.a.wills In reply to In short
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Laughable - you didn' trecognize the flood of sarcasm?

by Oz_Media In reply to That's right nt

If there was any sense, reason or fact behind your theory that it is a decision people make one day, you'd have a point.

Do you REALLY think people CHOOSE to be a minority? Have sex with someone they are not naturally attracted to?

And why is homosexuality ALWAYS related to the physical act of having sex?

Is it not possible that someone would seek comfort, friendship and alliance that develops into love for the same sex but is unable to feel such emotion toward the opposite sex?

It's not all about men lusting after men or women lusting after women, it's about relationships, companionship, partnership, who you want to spend your life with, who you like to share special moments with.

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Good smell or vision?

by JamesRL In reply to Lizards and other animals ...

Try dogs - if you haven't seen this, you've been blind - and last time I checked dogs had better smell capabilities than we do.

The most scientifically studied animal groups that have same sex behaviour are chimpanzes.

If I follow your logic, gay people are less intelligent that straight ones. Is that what you mean? Really?

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Should have stuck to the Pervert message

by drowningnotwaving In reply to Lizards and other animals ...

At least then you just looked "opinionated", let's say.

Now you're just outright stupid.

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by AnsuGisalas In reply to Should have stuck to the ...

this exact and entire message of his was available between the lines of what immediately preceded the "pervert" line.

Too warped to be able to hide.

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