How To Get Past my School's Admin?

By BrambleStar ·
Just a little background before I get started on this...
For one thing, in my school, it is not just the students who are trying to get past the admin, its driving the teachers insane 2 (nobody knows who admin is.) So I will not be kicked out.
For another thing, I am NOT looking to get a crack or hack to get the admin password, just a nice, simple way around it.
The admin in our school does NOT block websites or downloads, only installs.
However, this is a problem, because I wish to install many things that it is blocking.
Even when I tried to install a software called Camstudio my ICT teacher reccomended it was blocked, it is driving me insane!!! ( I found a portable version of that, CamStudio is not the prob)
However some of the people in school have managed to install stuff WITHOUT using any kind of Hacks/Cracks/etc, so I am just wondering how they did it.
Right now I am trying to install Utorrent, everybody else has managed to get it on there, and I must know how!!!
our school's admin is just a regular admin, and the laptop is a HP ProBook 4330s.
And thats about it...
(Note: I do not want to here any "Getting past admins wrong etc etc" because I KNOW!!! So please lets not be hatin on me cause I wanna download a few games...)

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by robo_dev In reply to I wish I had the answer

With all due respect, America is going downhill precisely because our students are doing everything other than learning. While other countries produce more scientists, engineers, and doctors due to the rigor of their school systems, our country produces more fat WalMart workers and more kids going directly from high-school to prison.

The OP may be a brilliant student who simply wants to relax with a computer game or two, and if so,that's great.

But just as likely, he may be a terrible student whose parents THINK he is doing hours math and science drills on his laptop, when the only drilling he's doing is for diamonds in MineCraft.

While there ARE rules that are stupid, and there ARE times when fighting the man is the thing to do...

But here is a kid who has been given an expensive laptop, given the chance at a good education, and even has someone with the patience to be the system administrator at a school full of punks like him.

Does he take all these gifts and become a brilliant scientist and inventor, or wear an orange jumpsuit and pickup trash with a prison work detail because 'the man' and all those 'rules' were sooooo mean to him? Only time will tell.

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by wizard57m-cnet Moderator In reply to I wish I had the answer

I suspect that "Bramble" does indeed know who the "admin" is...quoting
the question "our school's admin is just a regular admin"...that's the
giveaway! This person is only looking for the easy way out, rather than
do things the proper way and ASK FOR PERMISSION, they come to some
online site hoping to find a hack/crack so they can waste more of the
taxpayers' money playing games rather than doing their schoolwork on
technology paid for by school district funds.
Sometimes not following the rules is stupid! I'd tell you to ask the people
in the motor vehicle that was smashed in a collision with a tree, just
because the young teenage driver thought following "stupid rules" like
speed limits was "stupid", but 2 of them are dead, the other in semi-
vegatative state.

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by mdavis In reply to I wish I had the answer

Yes... you ARE on the wrong end of the spectrum here... Just to clarify that point.

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Not even sure why I am attempting to help you understand this but here goes

by mdavis In reply to How To Get Past my School ...

You are obviously trying to install software onto a school owned resource. The laptop deosnt belong to you so stop trying to do things to it that are not intended. As others say, installing torrent software on the laptop (agasin that doesn't belong to you) is a BAD thing. Torrents eat up bandwidth, most respectable admins do not even allow torrent traffic on their networks (I know I don't) for a VARIETY of reasons.

The thing that you need to understand is that you are in school to get an education (one that you seem to be neglecting because if you were paying attention in English you would know that it is "I don't want to HEAR..." not "I don't want to HERE..." but thats another discussion about the inadequecies of todays educational systems.

Bottom line is, you need to play games at home, on your OWN computer. If your Mommy and Daddy are ok with you screwing up your own computer or the family computer with micro torrent and a bunch of warez then that's their business, the school system folks put security measures in place to protect the viability of their (not your) information system assets and networks.

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Wait till you get into the Real Workplace!

by ChicagoNetTech In reply to How To Get Past my School ...

At least you have access to some of the things you like now - mostly websites.

With more and more businesses being paranoid about network security penetration many are locking down networks so tight that only authorized websites are available from within and there is absolutely nothing but licensed business applications installed on their networks.

In most healthcare and financial situations social networks are completely locked down as well.

Don't even think about me allowing you to bring your own smart phone or device in and allowing you to add it to my network. It ain't gonna happen until I know it is encrypted, protected by an approved antivirus program, has a password that is at least 8 characters, auto-locks within 5 minutes of unlocking, and I can remotely wipe your device in the event that you even elude to the fact that it is lost, has been stolen, or "I can't find it!" By the way, we provide VOIP phones on the desks and want those used in lieu of your smart phone. Yes, we also log all incoming and outgoing calls to make certain you are not sitting on the phone talking to friends for non-company business. In fact, some parts of the buildings were deliberately engineered and shielded to prevent the cell phone signals, along with any other RF, except for our private and secure WIFI network, from penetrating into those areas, so turn off the tears right now because I am not going to allow you to install a cellular booster.

Incidentally, my healthcare networks know everything every employee, including the boss, does within the network and we keep that log data, along with the meta data, for at least 72 months. We have to keep the data under federal HITECH rules and it is routinely vetted when we receive a subpoena from an attorney.

We don't allow online video, games, radio, music, Howard Stern, or any other forms of personal entertainment on your computer. Your work issued desktop or laptop is not a toy.

We also do not allow you to add any other e-mail account to your desktop or laptop. You have a company e-mail account and we expect you to use that for ALL company correspondence. No, you may NOT use it for personal correspondence. If you have children, we will allow you to have their school contact you, IN AN EMERGENCY, via the company e-mail system, but please keep in mind that we are archiving all incoming and outgoing e-mail and can read anything you send or receive. We provide partially unrestricted machines in the break and lunch areas, but even those cannot get on eBay or PayPal because we don't need surgeons, anesthesiologists, and nurses, who are supposed to be paying attention to patients, checking to see if they won an auction every few seconds.

By the way, if you have a laptop you are not authorized to let your children do their homework on it in the evenings. It is for COMPANY BUSINESS ONLY and we had better not find it sitting on the back seat of your car in a parking lot somewhere because we will charge you for it if it gets stolen - read your employment manual.

We are not paying for bandwidth for you to be entertained because you are here to work. Besides, medical imaging demands huge bandwidth and there is no way in **** I am going to put a patient who is on an operating table at risk because you want to participate in March Madness. TIVO or DVR it and watch when you get home.

Incidentally, don't use the network to create your spreads and pools either. Nothing against gambling, but not on my time or our network's time.

We know what you look at, if you changed it, if you printed it, what workstation you logged in from, what time you logged in, what time you logged out, and what you looked at on the internet. We also archive all incoming and outgoing e-mail and scan all such e-mail for personally identifiable patient or financial information. If such information is in there, it is in violation of both our, and federal rules, and we bounce the message back to the sender - with a copy in my in-box for review. We can, and do, go back and read old messages all the time. Sometimes it is in response to the request or a court summons, sometimes it is because of an internal investigation.

Yes, Johnny, big brother is watching everything you do on our business computer network and we will continue to monitor, and occasionally reprimand, sometimes with the big hammer called termination.

GROW UP - you are at school to learn about life. Your teachers may whine about not being allowed to install software; you may feel put upon and your parents may even verge on attacking the school for their "draconian network and software policy."

You may have tears in your eyes thinking about how awful a network administrator I am and the fact that you would never work in a facility I am responsible for, but: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn!"

Take some time and look at the real world now. Grow up - QUICKLY, because once you don that cap and gown, you enter life, and in life, there is no such thing as "fair." If you work at a facility where I am responsible for the network and you break my network rules, you will be looking for a new job.

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by mdavis In reply to Wait till you get into th ...
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by Pete6677 In reply to Wait till you get into th ...

Yet another IT nerd on a power trip. Just try getting the VP of Sales fired for playing fantasy baseball on YOUR network. He'll find a way to pin any damage on you, since you suck at office politics.

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by GSG In reply to Wait till you get into th ...

I'm right there with you. HITECH and HIPAA regulations trump the whiniest of admins or doctors. I don't want to be the person that tells administration that we got breached and all of our PHI was at risk, and oh, by the way, the fines will reach into the millions of dollars.

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to Pete6677...
you obviously have no clue about HIPAA, PHI nor my state
alone, just state fines, can be $2500 US PER OCCURANCE for a
breach...that means if you "misplace" the records of 3 patients, you're
looking at state fines up to $7500, not counting federal, not counting
personal injury lawsuit awards! Not a "power trip" at all, and the "VP of
Sales could very well be facing fines and/or termination.

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Well if you just want to know how "other people"

by Charles Bundy In reply to How To Get Past my School ...

got software on their computers, why don't you ask them? The likely answer is "I asked the hard working and much put upon sysadmin". :)

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