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I found things on my bosses

By zlitocook ·
Laptop that turned my stomach. He had pictures, movies and other things that a company President should not even let others know he looks at. The way I found out about them was because he bought a new laptop and I had to migrate the data to it. It is a boring process, you just watch the files go by. That was when I saw alot of jpg, pic, mpg and other things going by.
A question to all if you see things you should not know about should you tell your boss?
I ask because there was things that were Illegal
to have like pictures of people and mpgs from actors. I did not dig into the files because I do like to bother other peoples info.
This could really hurt this guy and his company. I do not want that but if he steals others things and pictures what do I do?

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My Machine, My network

by breadtrk In reply to Rules on searching

How many times does this have to be covered?

When it is MY machine on My network,using MY resources, there is NO privacy, none, zip, zilch, nada.

If it does not specifically belong on this network, it is gone. Period.

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Privacy v. Security

by OregonNative In reply to My Machine, My network

There is lot's of things that should be private on a network. It is a breech of our ethics to be "exploring" through data that is stored in an area expected to be secure.

However, I'm defending privacy of medical records, financial transactions, and legitimately secure information. I would not transfer illegal movies or pornography. Instead, I might create a backup image (for my protection) and give him his new laptop without the illegal stuff. Would he dare ask "Where did my movies go?" If he did, I might enjoy the ensuing transaction. If I got fired, I would have a great lawsuit.

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Not Wrong, Not Wrong, Not Wrong

by brutbwgcp In reply to WRONG!, WRONG!, WRONG!... ...

Get a backbone. What are you supposed to do? Wait until the horses are gone before we close the barn door? IT has the responsibility to PROTECT the company's network, data, bandwidth, and fellow employees from the dangers that this stuff can bring. Stay in your comfy chair so you can justify the overtime to fix the problems later.

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Get a backbone

by tundraroamer In reply to Not Wrong, Not Wrong, Not ...

I was just thinking those very words before I read this post.

It's true.

You may be the only person that can prevent disaster to your company.

Haven't you "accidentally" ever formatted a drive in error? Then just reinstall a ghost of the original install or reinstall the authorized legal corporate software for that laptop and hand it back with a note saying "oops".

It might be nice if you were able to save his actual business documents before the format and make sure he knows that.

A fresh copy of the IT corporate policy installed on the desktop is also a nice touch.

Or just tell him that you found things contrary to policy and you removed them.

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Oooppss??? Hmmm...

by KennethL In reply to Get a backbone

I seem to recall using that one once, when an unlicensed version of software appeared on a piece of hardware in my network. I had a Corporate policy giving me the right to remove said software. I did so.

The CFO whose machine this software was living on, didn't seem to understand the situation and had me terminated.

So much for using the policy as protection.

And I lost the lawsuit! The files were deleted, where's the evidence. (He killed my backup tapes as well!)

So what do we do then? Hmmm??

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What are you so afraid of?

by gordon.rudd In reply to Not Wrong, Not Wrong, Not ...

What is it about doing the right thing the right way that makes you so afraid of following the rules and staying the course? Backbone and OT have nothing to do with he issue at hand. If you want to play fast & loose with the rules in this instance would you also say identify theft is the inalienable right of an It professional?

Your response fails to note he obvious?the company, not the employees, owns the network and all that is attached to it. Therefore, the company makes the rules and stands behind the enforcement of the rules. Not IT.

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Jezzzz....

by STURNER In reply to WRONG!, WRONG!, WRONG!... ...

It is positively, absolutely the job of IT departments to police the users. Our responsibilities lie in the ability to maintain a viable and working network, desktop, server, email ect ect ect. Anyone user's actions that cause a detriment to this is in the wrong, not the tech that finds it. There are a lot of things out there for download that contain malicious code that make let confidential information leek to the outside world, especially on a President system. Throw away the whole ?IT is there to make the users life easier? crap fact is the world can not revolve with out technology and we are there to make it work and make it secure and if that means someone cant get to their porn page so be it!

As for this whole argument of privacy of a company owned machine, there is no privacy as long as there is a usage policy in place. There are enough employment termination cases through the US to back that up to! Heck if anyone needs a good usage policy email me and I will send you the one we created and sent through legal.

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Software Police

by jschilb In reply to Jezzzz....

If illegal software or documents are on a machine it is not IT job to remove it. HR is to be contacted and HR will do the investigation and have the software or documents removed. If IT does it on its own then someone in IT will lose their job.

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WRONG is WRONG

by f-4076287 In reply to WRONG!, WRONG!, WRONG!... ...

If his company has a policy, the president is subject to it as an employee of the company. IT both creates such policies (in the absence of a distinct security function), AND polices it by bringing such evidence to the attention of HR who then ENFORCES the policy by taking action where appropriate. It would be a courtesy to approach the president with the discoveries, but the IT guy could be at risk if he does not report it to HR as a matter of policy. The president/CEO works for the board. The board would need to know if the president/CEO is a risk. See how complicated it gets?

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True only in Public Company

by the docman In reply to WRONG is WRONG

Be careful here. If the company is publicly held, the policies will rule the President (especially since Sarbanes-Oxley). If, however, the comapany is private and the president is the majority shareholder (or can garner the support of the majority), then he answers only to himself. He wins, you lose, and you've got nothing to fall back on.

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